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plus. Take that again. But they live

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in... Sherry has to edit this. Sorry. Aye,

1:07

aye, aye, aye, aye. What's

1:28

good? Thank

1:32

you so much for tuning in to another episode

1:34

of The Newest Olympian. My name is Mike Schubert.

1:36

I'm the titular Newest Olympian. I'm a 32-year-old man

1:38

who never read the Percy Jackson books as a

1:40

kid. I read them as an adult because I

1:42

was on a quest to determine if society had

1:44

been sleeping on that series. I said yes, and

1:46

now I'm seeing if society has slept on the

1:48

entire series by covering Heroes of Olympus. And

1:50

I'm not on this journey alone. I'm never on this

1:52

journey alone. I am joined today by someone who is

1:55

just as famous and important as our last guest. It's

1:57

Kelly Schubert. Kelly, how's it going? What

2:02

an intro. Just as famous and important

2:05

to me. If

2:07

not more important. Yeah,

2:10

you have the fun job of following Walker Scobell. How does

2:12

it feel? Um,

2:15

yeah. Well,

2:22

I'd argue I'm just as big of a fan

2:24

as him. If not a

2:26

bigger fan of Heroes of Olympus, because

2:29

he's only read them once. I have now read them twice.

2:31

Well, there you go. Let's go through what is your

2:33

history with the Heroes of Olympus books. We know your

2:35

history with PJL, but what about HOO? I

2:37

read Heroes of Olympus after

2:40

I finished the original five.

2:43

I took a little time. I

2:45

think I then reread them. You did. And

2:48

then read Heroes of Olympus immediately following

2:50

that. And then recently,

2:52

I don't know what inspired me to do

2:54

it all over again, but I read the Percy

2:57

Jackson series again. And then Heroes of

2:59

Olympus immediately after that again. I'm

3:01

not sure why I did that, but I've been having fun

3:03

doing it. I think you did it

3:05

because you knew I was getting close and

3:08

you wanted to start talking to me about

3:10

stuff, but you read it so quickly. You

3:12

didn't know exactly what happened when. That

3:14

is a very good point. That is, I think, exactly

3:17

why I did it. I had, again,

3:19

read too fast. Oh, I think I

3:21

also know why you were reading them. It was a combo

3:23

of me reading them soon, but I think what actually sparked

3:25

it was Johnny was reading them for the first time and

3:28

texting you about it. And I think you got excited about

3:30

it and you wanted to read them as well. So you

3:32

and Johnny had a situation where he had

3:34

our paperbacks and you were reading our hardcovers

3:36

and then you were trading them back and

3:38

forth and you two were more excited about

3:40

talking than Johnny was to talk to me.

3:42

Yes, that's what it was. Johnny started

3:45

texting me about his first

3:47

read through and some of the things I had

3:49

forgotten and some of the things I didn't know

3:51

if I was going to spoil something for him.

3:53

And so I was like, I'm just going to start reading

3:55

again. So then Johnny and I kind of had a little

3:57

mini book club where we were almost in the same spot.

4:00

and here's of Olympus, but me for the second time. And

4:03

now you've moved on, you've even cracked

4:05

open trials of Apollo. Yes, I have.

4:07

I cracked open trials of Apollo, got

4:09

one chapter in. Actually, I

4:11

got one sentence in, and then

4:13

put the book down for like a week

4:15

because I needed to process for a bit. Now

4:18

I'm one chapter in and I'm still processing. Well,

4:20

I look forward to getting to those in 35 years,

4:23

but let's get into chapter four.

4:25

Now, originally the plan for Huron

4:27

Out is to do an episode

4:29

about every perspective. So two chapters

4:31

for Jason, two chapters for Piper.

4:33

I'm assuming the next two will

4:35

be Leo. That is the

4:37

plan. We had to alter the plan a little bit

4:39

because they had the wonderful problem of, how do I

4:41

fit Walker's Go Bell into the podcast? But

4:43

this will kind of get us back on track. We're just

4:46

gonna talk about chapter four today and then we'll be back

4:48

into the normal swing of things and hopefully no one's

4:50

upset with me. And it allows me to come back

4:52

on and talk about my new favorite friend, Piper.

4:54

Yeah, you seem to be very pro-Piper.

4:57

I like her enough so far, but

4:59

honestly, even after these two chapters, I

5:01

don't know much about her. So I'm

5:04

kind of still withholding my judgment. Currently

5:06

where it stands, I love Leo. Piper

5:09

seems fine and I'm intrigued by what

5:11

lies ahead. And Jason, to me, he

5:14

just feels like classic all

5:16

American hero. Like he

5:18

just feels like apple pie, baseball, golden

5:20

retriever. Well, Piper, even in the

5:23

fact that we're getting her, is

5:25

it third person omnipotent? No, someone reached out

5:27

to me about this. They sent me a

5:29

very helpful email to the TNO Gmail and

5:32

they opened it by saying, I promise this is

5:34

not me being patronizing, but I'm a third grade

5:36

teacher and I'm teaching my class about it. That's

5:39

the person we need teaching this to us. Exactly,

5:41

so this is from Lexi, who

5:43

was at the Charlotte Live Show we did recently, which

5:46

you can get the stream too if you go

5:48

to our merch store. But she says, this is

5:50

not meant to be patronizing, but it is a

5:52

funny coincidence that y'all were talking about What

5:54

the POV was. And I Am working on a

5:56

lesson for my third graders next week. The point

5:58

of view is third person. In Limited

6:00

third person omniscient is what we

6:03

usually think of where an outside

6:05

narrator knows all things like Sally

6:07

is that and Dawn is hungry.

6:09

Third Person limited is what we

6:11

actually see more often and why.

6:14

Eighth is a third person narrator

6:16

who can tell you that Don't

6:18

is hungry and see thinks that

6:20

Sally looks sad though We have

6:22

confirmation third Person Ltd which I

6:25

think makes sense and tracks and

6:27

I have enjoyed because I feel

6:29

like it's. Still a way for us

6:31

to get third person narration, but you get

6:33

enough of the stuff they would be first

6:35

person. You just get a lot of things

6:37

like Sassy Com and Piper thought instead of

6:40

i thought sassy comments yellow I think it

6:42

works. But even though we are third

6:44

person limited getting Piper at perspective, he

6:46

still actually even holding her cards close

6:48

to the best correct to us as

6:50

the reader, we don't really know what's

6:52

going on with her yet. Cruise.

6:55

Her dad, what's her family history went

6:57

with this dream he's having. She's really

6:59

not giving us a lot of information

7:01

yet. Sir as own data little bit because

7:04

you said cards close to the vest and I've only

7:06

ever heard cards close to the chest So I did

7:08

google up now. According

7:10

to Matthew dicks.com who seems

7:12

to be the reputable source

7:14

on this according to Google,

7:16

they are both use It

7:18

says close to Divest Appeared

7:20

first, close to my last,

7:22

followed almost immediately and today

7:24

both are used with equal

7:26

frequency from. I'm really an old year

7:28

it comes their hold. Your own I saw,

7:31

I were a lot of that and

7:33

I think that if you just love this

7:35

the always want me to wear best.

7:37

From what ever read, between the two

7:39

of us, we own one that. To.

7:41

That they are. both of them yours. I'm hoping

7:44

I only have one puppy that are. You have

7:46

an athletic vest and a Christmas mount. We.

7:49

Don't. You have a Christmas Us. Know I've a

7:51

Christmas sweater. I was at my Christmas

7:53

as yes, you have a Christmas I

7:55

have a puppy. Vast. ah, and athletic.

7:57

That's right, And. At

7:59

Christmas. What's. Your party best

8:01

My. Body. That is that blue line. Oh

8:04

yeah yeah I have a that running various

8:07

from Barb and really invested. it is nice

8:09

white on his their yeah we got a

8:11

cool are able to get into chapter four

8:13

which is called Piper we will do the

8:15

seeing Now inspired by Robert are any page

8:17

or name it at the end but right

8:19

now says contact or for by birth and

8:21

in that spirit I forgot to do the

8:23

what you we named after three thing with

8:25

Walker because I was to worry about trying

8:27

to get as many questions as I could

8:29

before Disney said you have to hang up

8:31

his own costs is a hoax. If

8:33

I had to name chapter three something I would give it

8:36

something can is you know we're trying to give the quirky

8:38

title. I would go with it. Go for a dip in

8:40

the league. I would

8:42

name is specifically as you were talking to

8:44

walker. With. Pricey, but that's

8:46

not actually I see who is. Thirty

8:48

two years versus Pretty Do is very

8:50

for this Percy guy. must be important.

8:54

For it says he does. Is it that chapter?

8:56

Yeah, We take a dip in the way. It.

8:59

Is a very shortly after super short? Yeah

9:01

by. I think it just kind of works

9:03

in the formula of usually. What I have

9:05

found is the chapter title is something true,

9:07

but you don't really know what happens until

9:09

the hit and miss ssds up. Chapter Four

9:11

Paper where we last thirty years we had

9:13

the campers dispersing. We have we'll going under

9:15

tour with Will and Paper about to go

9:17

on a tour with an abyss. Now Piper

9:19

gets the sense that and a bus isn't

9:21

fully focused on the tour and a best

9:23

explains all of the camp half blood stuff

9:25

including to be increasing campers means that it

9:27

is busy year round even in winter. Like

9:29

it is now and Piper can just

9:32

tell that her brain is elsewhere. Probably

9:34

focusing on percy paper starts running do

9:36

dozens of questions in her mind, but

9:38

she keeps her thoughts close to divest.

9:41

Given and events and food. From

9:44

a top half Blood Hill Paper can see that

9:46

the cabins are in an omega shape now and

9:48

there are twenty and all. So before we had

9:50

are you now we have the two wings on

9:52

either side. I'm still trying to figure out what's

9:55

going on with the omega that on the books.

9:57

I don't know if it's supposed to be like.

9:59

I don't. I think it's Jason's coin. I think it's just

10:01

a logo for the books, and I'm overthinking it. But the logo

10:03

that's on the books that we made, the stickers you can also

10:05

get on the merch store, where it's like

10:07

the gold coin with the omega on it. I

10:10

don't think it's like anything in the story, but

10:12

I'm wondering if that, that's what I'm wondering. I'm

10:14

wondering if it's the gold coin because of the

10:16

Jason thing and then the omega now because of

10:18

this and then also omega is, it's a Greek

10:20

letter, not a Roman letter. So, I don't know.

10:22

But I was intrigued by the omega and I

10:24

was intrigued by now there are confirmed 20 in

10:26

all. So that means we have

10:29

eight new cabins, right? Eight new cabins. And

10:31

I told them to sell them. Or was it more than

10:33

eight new cabins because there wasn't a Hades cabin before. So

10:35

are there nine new cabins? Would have been 11 before? Yeah.

10:39

Yeah, yeah. So the U was uneven before? Or

10:41

I guess perfectly in the middle? They

10:44

might've said it already. But regardless, there's

10:46

nine-ish new cabins. They list Hades as

10:48

one of the new cabins. Correct. So

10:51

they list Hades, Hecatee, and Iris as three

10:53

of the new cabins that are built. Correct.

10:55

I'm intrigued to see who the remaining cabins are. But we got

10:57

20. And Piper notes

10:59

that one of the cabins is black with

11:02

fiery green torches out front. Hello, Hades cabin.

11:04

Piper takes the news that her mom is

11:06

a goddess quite well, much to Annabeth's surprise.

11:08

But Piper says that there were clues throughout

11:11

her life, such as how her dad was

11:13

always pretty vague about her

11:15

mother and didn't seem to always

11:17

be telling the whole truth when

11:20

Piper would ask questions about her.

11:22

Yeah, I'm not sure my mind would jump immediately

11:24

to, she must be a Greek goddess. Well,

11:26

I think it's more of, she's less

11:28

shocked by the news of your mother

11:30

isn't who you've been told she is.

11:32

Well, she goes on to say the other reason she's

11:35

not shocked. The dream, right? Yeah, yeah. So

11:37

I have here my notes. Ah, we learned

11:39

more about Piper's dream because the biggest clue

11:41

for Piper was the dream saying, quote, soon

11:43

they will find you demigod when

11:45

they do follow our directions, cooperate,

11:47

and your father might live. And

11:51

yes, very ominous. But what I'm

11:53

gonna say, as someone who's watched

11:55

enough action movies where Someone

11:58

flips the other side, we just, The

12:00

watch dune in prep for doing to

12:02

tune. Skip ahead if you don't want

12:04

doing spoilers by. The. Guy who's the

12:06

mole when he does the thing is at

12:09

all. They had my wife yeah so I

12:11

had to do this city keep her alive

12:13

and then they kill the ways and him

12:15

like what did you think was gonna happen

12:17

Like of course they're going to do this.

12:19

So because in the dream they say do

12:22

what we say and your father might live

12:24

I'm going to need more written confidence and

12:26

then might because your father might live means

12:28

absolutely nothing. You're going to do all the

12:30

stuff and then they're going to kill your

12:33

dad. Hoodie thing. Their voice belongs.

12:35

To the only guess I will get into it and

12:37

more things go on has ago. I will lead minute

12:39

in real time say when I got there as opposed

12:41

to me I'm like well at this moment I knew

12:43

that it was. So Piper

12:45

doesn't reveals his to and of s Instead

12:47

she tells a new best that this morning

12:49

is would made the saw more believable which

12:51

I think is a good life. Yeah, I

12:54

mean that would also and accounts

12:56

Fighting Storm Spirit. Proxy. For

12:58

other things, totally yeah. Also when Piper

13:01

lies labor, so and of a says

13:03

that the claiming should happen tonight. Since

13:05

papers sixteen that's we're older than thirteen

13:08

and paper goes thirteen and and and

13:10

of us explains the whole monster smell

13:12

when you turn Thirteen gets more intense

13:15

things she explains protectors and hedge. Being

13:17

a cedar is also not a shock

13:19

to paper since she has seen how

13:21

that guy eats so paper canonical you

13:24

know how goats I guess Paper asks

13:26

his cut hedges okay. And with

13:28

says she doesn't know and notes that

13:30

it is hard to fight off storm

13:32

spirit because even Sulistyo bronze will go

13:34

right through them unless you surprise them.

13:36

So that could explain some of the

13:38

fight mechanics. But then Piper brings up

13:40

the Jason sword me to light work

13:42

of them and and about calls him

13:44

lucky which feels very Annabel messiah. I'm

13:46

not gonna give credit to Jason or

13:48

his sword instead is gonna chalk it

13:50

up to lock and better than explains

13:52

the tartar as monster dust situation and

13:54

how they can reform and she thinks

13:56

the Dylan would have. No reason to

13:59

keep heads, Allies. So she doesn't

14:01

have high hopes for head which makes

14:03

me think our he could edge is

14:05

gonna be totally fine. As Piper worries

14:07

more about what's in store she reveals

14:09

another line from the dream As narrator

14:11

s Piper quotes do what we tell

14:14

you where the consequences will be painful

14:16

So moon I now again it just

14:18

like these threats or to empty your

14:20

you just know you can't If Piper

14:22

does the staff I'm gonna be varied

14:24

sense and of a and comforts paper

14:26

saying that the campers our friends and

14:29

will help her. Through this and I

14:31

like and about being really sweet to her,

14:33

I think this is nice. A paper doubts

14:35

that they'll be nice to her and help

14:38

or three this because papers already thinking that

14:40

she is going to betray everybody. Correct paper

14:42

says quo. I've been kicked out of five

14:44

different schools in the past five years and

14:47

and tobacco's only five with no sense of

14:49

esas. She is genuinely impressed that she has

14:51

only gotten kicked out of five and then

14:54

in of us explains that she ran away

14:56

when she was very young. She explains the

14:58

A D H D Dyslexia. Things and

15:00

then she starts to get into a

15:02

story about proceed but then her face

15:04

darkens and she hard pivots staffing paper

15:07

or she got in trouble for that.

15:09

Just a imagine to the stairs often

15:11

The Middle ages? no no, my missing

15:13

boyfriends. Fiber going against

15:15

her usual instinct which is to fight

15:17

someone who asks best instead explains that

15:20

he steals stuff but immediately tries to

15:22

walk it back to not release steel

15:24

and then and a bath. Asks the

15:26

very normal question to ask: a new

15:28

friend Is your family poor. Which.

15:32

Okay, At best. As a bit. Abrasive,

15:36

Are a couple of hours ago but

15:38

I didn't think about that. Yeah, like

15:40

maybe tiptoe around this question but paper

15:42

says know the reason she stole with

15:45

for attention. And a ask

15:47

for clarification on what paper meant by

15:49

saying she didn't We we steal things

15:51

and paper explains that people just give

15:54

her stuff and the explanation. feels like

15:56

she talks people into doing what

15:58

she wants and then. has listened to

16:00

Lauren Chippen's podcast, The Bright Sessions. There is

16:02

a character, Damien, who has superpowers.

16:05

It's like angsty queer X-Men,

16:07

great podcast. And one of the guys,

16:09

Damien, has the power to, I don't

16:11

know, it's like an evil empath kind

16:13

of thing. Like he just makes you

16:15

want to do whatever he wants. And

16:18

he is more villainous. So

16:21

I'm intrigued to see if that's or

16:25

just stealing them for more nefarious.

16:27

I mean, that is the kind of thing he would do, but he's

16:30

definitely like, he's not a hero. So

16:32

you usually see him doing stuff more

16:34

in the evil sense. So I'm very

16:36

intrigued if this is what Piper's powers

16:38

are. I'm very intrigued to

16:40

see a good guy use these powers. So

16:42

I will just have to see what's in

16:44

store and you can't say anything. Does

16:48

it make you think more about

16:50

who her godly parent might be? I

16:54

still... Because Annabeth says if it was your

16:56

dad, I would think it was Hermes, the

16:58

god of thieves. But it's her

17:01

mom. So who are you now thinking?

17:03

I don't know, because I don't

17:05

know that I know enough about

17:07

Greek or even Roman gods to

17:10

figure out who would be like

17:12

the power of persuasion. I have

17:15

a different theory about maybe who Piper's

17:17

mom is, but it doesn't really

17:19

have to do with the power. I don't think

17:21

I know enough about Greek mythology to pick who

17:23

her mom is. I just have something based on

17:25

vibes later in the chapter that has a big

17:28

home run guess for me. Annabeth

17:30

says that if her dad was a god, it would

17:32

probably be Hermes, but not sure if her mom would

17:34

be. And this causes Piper to wonder if her mom

17:36

knows about the dream. Annabeth studies her, making Piper realize

17:38

that she has to be careful about what she

17:40

says around Annabeth because Annabeth is clearly very

17:43

smart. Annabeth asks her to follow

17:45

her elsewhere to check one last thing. And

17:47

they approach a cave near the top of

17:49

the hill with bones and old swords on

17:51

the ground, torches outside the entrance, and a

17:53

velvet curtain with snake embroidery. Annabeth calls it

17:56

a friend's place, and then I wrote my

17:58

notes meeting it's Rachel Elizabeth Ayers. There

18:00

are a number of he mused race

18:02

over there is a friend fully yea

18:04

that scouts when papers done that and

18:06

the best has a friend who lives

18:08

in a cave and of us explains

18:10

that her family has a luxury condo

18:13

in Queens begging the question when did

18:15

they move because didn't make it more

18:17

as they were they I think they

18:19

had a brownstone in Brooklyn or Manhattan.

18:21

Ah. I think when we

18:23

pull up my very we go copy

18:25

of the book five Pts and search

18:28

for Brownstone. Because I'm pretty sure

18:30

that they had a house elsewhere. Yes,

18:33

Quote from but five She is the top

18:35

floor for Families mentioned which is a renovated

18:37

brownstone in Brooklyn. Me: The here and I'm

18:40

like oh I see. Yeah, right

18:42

in between the tail. And.

18:44

And of it doesn't really notions which or

18:46

see realize that Brooklyn is bad in Queens

18:48

is good and yeah move to Queens. Or.

18:50

They have a luxury condo in Queens and Brown said

18:52

it. Because. Yeah, given Mister Dare,

18:54

that's probably the most likely scenario.

18:57

Queens And the Browns and in

18:59

Brooklyn. Whoa. And then a mansion

19:01

in Manhattan? Up Up Up Up

19:03

Up. And the. Big. As

19:06

Apartments in the Purpose of

19:08

Us and Something in Staten

19:10

Island that is set of

19:12

his. Family There's

19:14

a new house in Queens where the their

19:16

families and it continues there. She goes to

19:19

finishing school in Connecticut but she lives in

19:21

a cave when she's at Camp Half Blood

19:23

and she also explains the she's the oracle

19:25

and of a says that she was hoping

19:28

that her friend word and then piper finished

19:30

help you find better seats and best looks

19:32

awake but life is just drained out of

19:35

her. After they talk about this and

19:37

she sits down paper with the way because

19:39

it's too awkward and then she sees the

19:41

golden fleece on a tree in the distance

19:43

and thinks oh okay Greek camp I get

19:45

a beaver replica of the fleece but then

19:47

she notices palais as the dragon. The end

19:50

is floored that it's the actual real fleet

19:52

and of s exhausted gives a half hearted

19:54

confirmation oh ya ya her that's the real

19:56

on paper asks how long and of of

19:58

has been on the search. Percy and

20:00

and about says three days, six hours

20:02

and twelve minutes. That will be agree

20:04

Trivia question at Percy Jackson during his

20:07

final question: how long had an Abyss

20:09

been searching for Breezy when she talked

20:11

with fiber Now be rid of our.

20:13

Next minutes pretty bad in bed and

20:15

the brain bank for later. Trivia night

20:17

If there ever is a Percy Jackson turvy

20:20

we gotta find and clean up. We had

20:22

a person I was super group and we

20:24

have a gift cards to whatever deserted place

20:26

this do and Bj interview. I asked if

20:28

any better really has no idea what happened.

20:31

Percy and an Abyss explains quote. We were

20:33

so excited because we both started winter break

20:35

early. We met at the camp on Tuesday,

20:37

figured we had three weeks together is going

20:39

to be grace than after the campfire. he

20:42

teased me could nights would back to his

20:44

cabin in in the morning he was gone.

20:46

We searched the. Whole. Camp we contacted

20:48

his mom. we tried to reach him

20:50

every way we know how nothing. he

20:52

just disappeared and before I read this

20:54

quo ira. Okay let's see if I

20:56

can guess outta nowhere where Perseus and

20:58

an effort to screw I wrote. I.

21:01

Got nothing. At all

21:03

This is nothing is truly helpful here

21:05

so I'm not really sure I don't

21:07

have a desk and I was just

21:09

it does when trying to guess anything

21:11

about what is going on in a

21:13

major plot of this book in the

21:15

whole series. And it's hard because we

21:17

defeated Kronos already though. My only thought

21:19

is. A who is bigger than Cronus

21:21

like who is the step above Kronos and

21:23

the only thing I can dig of is

21:25

going a step backwards. and if Iran is

21:27

comes best like that's the only thing I

21:29

can think of that is if we're going

21:31

down the Greek line. If Cronus has added

21:34

a picture. Or. Honest. The only

21:36

thing that's left that I've ever heard

21:38

of before. The other thing is if

21:40

we are going embrace Roman stuff there

21:42

could be like Roman Kronos Romo So

21:45

like there could be an equivalent evil

21:47

type Titan thing that's on the seem

21:49

sorta level was Kronos but is the

21:51

Roman equivalent but I don't know if

21:54

there is one that is like different

21:56

enough to make it not just Cronus

21:58

to the sequel. So. feel more

22:00

confident about Oranos being a guess

22:03

than Roman Kronos being the guess.

22:05

That's the only thing I can think of. Okay. The

22:09

only other thing, and I don't know how the Roman gods

22:11

are going to be characterized, I don't think they would be

22:13

evil, but there also could be something where it's like the

22:15

Roman gods want to take over Western civilization, like all the

22:17

Greeks are ruining it with their whole

22:19

Olympus thing. We're better with Roman Olympus,

22:21

but I don't think it's that. If

22:23

I had to guess something, I would

22:25

glean Oranos just because it feels like

22:27

the next step past Kronos. Okay. Piper's

22:30

big takeaway is that this missing Percy

22:32

Jackson situation happened three days ago, which

22:34

is when she had her dream. Piper

22:37

asks how long they've been together. And

22:39

about says since August, August 18th, and

22:41

that's Percy's birthday. Right. So that's like

22:43

when the events of book five

22:45

took place and they had their kiss and all that.

22:48

So that would be when they got together. Piper

22:50

says that that is almost exactly when she

22:53

met Jason, but they've only been together a

22:55

few weeks. And about says

22:57

Piper dot, dot, dot about that.

22:59

Maybe you should sit down and you can

23:01

call this my favorite painting because oof by

23:04

Ed, Russia. It's

23:08

a good painting. It's a really good painting.

23:10

But yeah, anytime someone says, maybe you should

23:12

sit down after saying about that, you're

23:14

not going to get good news. You're going to

23:16

have to strap in for some bad news. Sit

23:19

down because we don't want you hitting the ceiling when

23:21

you jump up and down for joy. Well,

23:23

you know, oh, that's definitely. Oh

23:26

yeah. All the time. Piper is already on

23:29

the defensive about Jason having lost his memory

23:31

saying, Oh, you know, but we've known each

23:33

other for four months. And it says that

23:35

it's the mist. And then Annabeth explains how

23:37

the mist works. Piper thinks that it can't

23:39

be the mist because she is a demigod,

23:42

but Annabeth says the demigods can be affected

23:44

by the mist as well. Piper

23:46

relays basically her entire history with Jason

23:48

to try and convince Annabeth that her

23:50

memories are real. And then Beth admits

23:52

that her memories are sharper than most,

23:54

but then she hits her with the

23:57

big question. Where's he from? And.

24:00

Piper Stamers. And then Anabeth asks if

24:02

she ever noticed his tattoo before today.

24:04

And Piper hesitates. And then Piper asks

24:06

the biggest question, what's his

24:09

last name? And as far as a high

24:11

school relationship, that's not the weirdest thing to

24:13

not know someone's last name. But then I

24:15

remember they went to the same school. So

24:17

then he is weird. Because I definitely had

24:19

a seventh grade girlfriend who I never knew

24:21

her last name. I met her through

24:24

a friend in the summer. So

24:27

she was just Aimee. And that was

24:29

it. You never asked? I

24:31

was never called her parents anything. We

24:34

ended up dating for like a month. She

24:36

dumped me for some like tall skateboard guy. And

24:40

I think I like maybe had learned

24:42

it like indirectly. But it was also

24:44

a time when we were using MySpace

24:46

and not Facebook. So you had like

24:48

usernames and not your full legal name

24:50

there. I suppose. So we didn't even

24:52

ask. There were other

24:54

more important questions to ask like, will you go out

24:57

with me? Not

24:59

what's your last name? Details,

25:01

details wasn't on the brain. But yeah,

25:03

high school plus being in the same

25:06

school, she should probably know. Yeah. I

25:08

don't even know Jason plus name. Piper

25:11

starts to cry feeling embarrassed. She just crumbles

25:13

wondering if everything good in her life had

25:15

to be stripped away today. And my first

25:17

thought was what else was stripped away from

25:19

her? I guess like her dad, but not

25:21

today. Her dad went missing days

25:23

ago. She's starting to get the inkling that her dad

25:25

is missing. She had

25:28

this really great situation going to a school

25:30

with her friends that she liked and had

25:32

a boyfriend. And now all that's

25:34

gone too. I get it. Yeah, okay. I

25:36

can see it. Then Piper recalls the dream

25:38

saying yes, unless you do exactly what we

25:41

say. And I'm confused. Did she say something

25:43

to the dream voice because it starts with

25:45

yes. So you would think that would be

25:47

a response to something. The dream's not responding

25:50

to Annabeth or to Piper's thought if she's thinking

25:52

about what was said in the dream. So

25:54

what's the yes for? Maybe she's been

25:57

feeling this kind of trepidation

25:59

for a while. And the dream was

26:01

responding to some other form of why

26:04

is my dad being taken from me? Gotcha. Annabeth

26:07

tries to cheer her up, saying that Jason is

26:09

here now and maybe it'll work out between the

26:11

two of them for real. And I was kind

26:13

of excited for the mid-relationship couple, but I guess

26:15

we're already going to get that with Percy and

26:17

Annabeth, so I think it's okay, even if we

26:19

have another couple that's like getting together, or it

26:21

could be the fun, weird choice where they just

26:23

don't end up together, even though they started quote

26:26

unquote together. Could be very interesting. Piper

26:29

thinks that it's unlikely because of the dream, but

26:31

she doesn't say anything to Annabeth. She

26:34

asks Annabeth if the whole reason that she brought

26:36

her up here was so that no one would

26:38

see her freak out, and Annabeth says she knows

26:40

what it's like to lose a boyfriend. And I

26:42

think that's very sweet. Annabeth being so sweet. She's

26:44

physically lost to her boyfriend. True. Yes,

26:47

yes. Different wording. Where'd he

26:49

go? Piper is

26:51

still convinced that they had something. She

26:54

asks how he got there, why he showed

26:56

up, why he doesn't remember anything at all.

26:58

Annabeth thinks that those are all good questions

27:00

in hopes that Chiron will have answers. Annabeth

27:02

asks Piper if she's ready to go back

27:04

down. Piper thinks again of her

27:07

dream saying, you'll betray them for us, or

27:09

you'll lose everything. Piper thinks that

27:11

Camp Half-Blood will just be another place where people

27:13

will be disappointed in her and will kick her

27:15

out, so she lies and tells Annabeth that she's

27:17

ready to go down. And

27:19

now we can take our mid-roll break, which

27:21

I haven't named yet, because the first episode

27:23

was a livestream and the second one was

27:25

Walker, so I was like, I'll do a

27:27

mid thing later, but I remember, hmm, the

27:29

Lost Hero, gotta think of it. Let's

27:33

go with the Cost Hero for now, but we can leave

27:35

it subject to change if I think of a better one,

27:37

but we'll be back after this mid-roll break. You

27:39

could also make it something Heroes of Olympus and just use

27:41

the same thing for all five. But that'll be doing

27:43

it for so long, and I like switching it up.

27:46

You could also do it based off of a character name. Yeah,

27:48

but I think in the past they did it all based

27:50

on the titles, so I wanna keep true to that. So

27:53

for now, the Cost Hero, and then we'll be

27:55

back to finish out chapter four. Hello

28:01

and welcome to The Lost Euro. Mike from

28:03

a couple of seconds ago was incorrect. I

28:05

guess he was correct at the

28:07

time, but he is no longer correct. As

28:09

we have new information, we have a new

28:12

name. The Lost Euro will be the mid-roll

28:14

break. Name for The Lost Hero episode. And

28:16

I had mentioned giving credit to people who

28:18

reached out, me not being able to find

28:20

who messaged them. One of the two people

28:22

who messaged me did message me back. The

28:24

reason I couldn't find them on Instagram is

28:26

because it was from Twitter. And shout out

28:28

to Raven, aka Rayverny, underscore on Twitter for

28:30

The Lost Euro as a name suggestion. Now

28:32

for other podcast update stuff. First I want to thank

28:35

everyone who listened to our past two episodes.

28:37

The interview slash episode with Walker

28:39

and then the interview with Charlie. Those were very

28:42

fun to put together. And also, if you didn't

28:44

know, we made video versions of them and they

28:46

are available on the T&O YouTube channel. I think

28:48

it's pretty fun for both of them, especially the

28:50

Charlie interview, because he, as you may have heard,

28:53

did things where he showed me pictures that he

28:55

took on his phone or

28:57

with disposable cameras that he loaded onto

28:59

his phone. And the visual aid helps. And

29:01

it's also just kind of fun to see their

29:04

certain reactions to some of my sillier questions

29:06

and stuff like that. That's on the T&O

29:08

YouTube account, which you can just search for

29:10

The Newest Olympian on YouTube and you'll find

29:12

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Olympian. And I post other stuff

29:16

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29:18

show stuff gets posted there. I'm going to be posting stuff

29:20

there soon. So head on over, subscribe,

29:23

check it out. We've got some good stuff

29:25

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29:27

of social media, I would say head on

29:29

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29:31

around noon-ish on

29:34

Monday, May 6th, the day that this is coming

29:36

out, just for a little tiny announcement. Now, speaking

29:38

of announcements, you may have heard that we've got

29:40

some upcoming T&O live shows coming to a city

29:42

near you if you live in or near one

29:44

of these cities that I'm about

29:46

to announce. But we've got some shows coming up in the

29:49

near future in Seattle, Washington, Vancouver,

29:51

Canada, Berkeley, California, Nashville, Tennessee, and Atlanta,

29:53

Georgia. You can get tickets to all

29:55

of those at the Newest olympian.com/live. I

29:57

will also be at LeakyCon in Portland.

30:00

Oregon around the 4th of July weekend

30:02

and then we are looking to add

30:04

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30:06

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30:11

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30:13

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30:15

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30:17

a little bit tricky but just follow us on

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30:22

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30:24

would like to apologize for a missed pun. At

30:26

one point I don't remember if it's before or

30:28

after the break because I'm recording this after the

30:31

fact but at some point in this episode

30:33

I say that Piper cries I should have

30:35

said criper I apologize I will do better

30:37

in the future. Now I would also like

30:39

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Haley Hengleheimer-Schmant. They spell the H-A-N I said

31:00

Han because I thought it was like the John Jingleheimer

31:02

you get what I was going there Han Solo spells it you know what I mean

31:04

you know what I mean but I think it's for a hand. Thank

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31:11

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35:22

starts with a quote that made me

35:24

so happy. Quote, on the

35:27

central green, a group of campers was

35:29

playing basketball. So excited,

35:31

so excited. It continues, they were incredible

35:33

shots. Nothing bounced off the rim. Three

35:35

pointers went in automatically. I'm so excited

35:37

that basketball is finally happening. We've had

35:39

basketball courts for five plus books and

35:41

no basketball. And we finally get basketball.

35:43

And I knew right off the bat,

35:45

okay, this is gonna be the Apollo

35:47

cabin, right? They've gotta be the three

35:50

point shooters. Yeah, so which basketball players

35:52

are children of Apollo? Oh,

35:54

I mean, you gotta have Steph Curry, obviously.

35:56

Yeah, yeah. J.J. Reddick, Steve

35:59

Nash. Richard Lewis Ray

36:02

Allen Wow a lot of children of

36:04

Apollo in the NBA Oh, I could

36:06

name three-point shooters page of story archivit

36:08

for the rest of this episode And

36:10

I would have a great time Steve Novak like

36:13

it could go on forever But

36:15

you can just listen to horse Michael Hubert

36:17

no not not not my strong suit I'm

36:19

alright, but it's not my strong suit my

36:21

strong suit is defense and being annoying And

36:23

having a good time wearing fun clothes Yeah,

36:28

and Beth confirms that these people making

36:30

three-point shots are members of the Apollo cabin

36:32

Piper then sees sword fighting happening in a

36:34

shock that the blades are real and an

36:36

about says it's sort of the point and

36:39

then Apologizes for the bad pun. I agree

36:41

not the greatest one Meant

36:44

to make the pun it wasn't

36:46

ideal like it's a fine pun

36:48

Anabeth points out Kevin six to her and the book

36:51

notes that there is a carved owl over the door

36:53

I didn't remember that being a thing for the Athena

36:55

cabin and I wonder if this will be in the

36:57

TV show I don't think we actually saw the Athena

36:59

cabin I think we only saw the

37:01

Hermes cabin and maybe we did like off to the

37:03

side or something But I am curious to see if

37:05

the carved owl makes an appearance inside

37:08

Piper sees books weapons and a

37:10

smart board Teacher is in

37:12

the house and as someone who was

37:15

in high school when this book came

37:17

out I remember when we got

37:19

smart boards in our high school and it was like

37:21

a big deal All of the teachers

37:24

are very confused by them except for my math teacher.

37:26

Mr. Fuse who was awesome and utilized it to its

37:28

full ability Doing a lot of

37:30

cool geometry stuff on it. And I remember one

37:32

of our teachers our calculus teacher Let's

37:35

just call her miss ruling because that's her name and she was

37:37

a terrible teacher She one time

37:39

wrote on the smart board with

37:41

an Expo marker and it didn't

37:43

wipe off really? Yeah Oh,

37:45

that's so sad. I would feel

37:47

worse if she was a better teacher But she

37:49

was a horrible professor and was kind of mean

37:51

and I had to teach myself calculus Nice

37:54

cool. So I got no love for miss rule on

37:56

the contrary. I loved my calculus teacher in high school.

37:59

He was great. Mr You're old rich. Yeah.

38:01

Awesome. Awesome guy. Yeah, it

38:04

was me and my buddy, Humberto. We taught ourselves

38:06

calculus BC. We got fives. Anyway,

38:09

smart boards are here. Very teacher, Rick. Anabeth

38:12

says, quote, speaking of blades and tries to

38:14

find the perfect one for Piper. Anabeth

38:17

then pulls out a celestial

38:19

bronze bullet only shotgun, which

38:21

Piper is shocked by. And

38:24

now that this is the reveal, I'm very

38:26

excited to put an unaired clip from the

38:28

Walker interview in because there was

38:31

a wonderful moment where Walker accidentally

38:33

spoiled something for me and

38:35

we were just going to delete it.

38:37

I just got to go to the grave

38:40

with this secret so that no one thought

38:42

anything ill of Walker's go bell, a wonderful,

38:44

delightful human. But he

38:46

only jumped the gun. So I

38:48

have a capture. And I can see why, because

38:50

even before recording, he was like, what's chapter three,

38:52

what's chapter four? So

38:54

it's so short. It's so short. So here

38:56

is that clip. Here's

39:00

Walker corner. Celestial

39:02

bronze sword, celestial bronze shield watch,

39:05

and also a celestial bronze leaf

39:07

blower. And I think

39:09

it's celestial bronze gun later on. Oh my God.

39:12

Don't worry about it. It's later on.

39:14

I'll cut it out. It's later. No,

39:16

no, this is for you personally. Forget about that. Yeah,

39:19

sure. Just so funny. It's so funny. And I'm so

39:21

glad that this is how it all shook out because

39:23

now we can share that clip because it's so funny.

39:25

Yeah. Sweet moment from him to

39:27

apologize immediately and say that's just for you. Great.

39:31

So yeah, not a big spoiler at

39:33

all. But yeah, I laughed out loud

39:35

because knowing, oh, okay, he spoiled me

39:37

for like three pages. Absolutely nothing. He

39:40

told me what he spoiled. And I was like, I

39:42

don't even know what he's talking about. But

39:45

it's because he had just read these chapters because

39:47

he's rereading the books. Correct. And

39:49

so he just read these chapters. It was more on his brain, I

39:51

suppose. But yeah, it's so funny. So

39:55

then Piper sees something that catches her

39:57

eye. An unassuming knife with a wooden

39:59

handle and an 18-inch blade. Anabeth says

40:01

it's a parazonium, which is usually

40:03

ceremonial and carried by high ranking

40:06

officers in the Greek armies. It's

40:08

more of a status symbol, but

40:10

it still offers protection. Piper

40:12

says she likes it and asks why Anabeth hesitated

40:14

about it because she was kind of going through

40:16

the different options. And when Piper saw this one,

40:18

Anabeth didn't want to give it to her right

40:20

away. Anabeth says that the blade has a long

40:22

story. Things didn't work out too well for its

40:25

first owner, Helen. And Piper takes a beat and

40:27

asks the Helen of Troy, and then I could

40:30

only think of the clip from

40:32

High School Musical 3 where Gabriel

40:34

Montes goes, TURRIE! T

40:42

is in Troy? No, T is

40:44

in the New Salimpians. Piper

40:46

cannot believe it's just sitting in a tool

40:48

shed. Anabeth says stuff like that is all

40:51

around and Camp Half-Blood is not a museum.

40:53

The items are meant to be used. They're

40:55

their heritage. And I love that Anabeth is

40:57

a pro wear your fancy sneakers that you

41:00

buy in person. I think that's good. It's

41:02

a good look. She says

41:04

that the blade was a wedding present

41:06

from Menelaus, Helen's first husband. She named

41:08

it Catoptris. And I gotta

41:11

get Dr. Moy in the mix because

41:13

what is going on here? Let's talk

41:15

about it when we get to the

41:17

In Between Book One and Book Two

41:19

episodes in 12 years. It's not gonna

41:21

take that

41:24

one. We charted it out, right? How long do

41:26

we think? It was like seven months we thought

41:28

to do the first book. So that's fine. There's

41:30

something I wanted to talk to you about. And

41:33

we were just like, how long? How old will

41:35

we be? And Anabeth explains

41:37

that it means mirror or looking glass

41:39

because that's all Helen used it for.

41:41

Piper looks at the blade and sees

41:43

her reflection in it, but then it

41:45

changes from herself to flames and a

41:48

grotesque face like it was cut from

41:50

bedrock. And then she hears the same

41:52

laughter as in her dream and sees

41:54

her dad in chains tied to a

41:56

post in front of a huge fire.

41:58

So not great. Piper drops

42:00

the blade and Beth thinks she needs medical

42:02

attention Piper says she's okay and just got

42:04

overwhelmed She says she wants to keep the

42:06

blade and Annabeth hesitates but then says she's

42:08

okay with it if Piper is She

42:11

says Piper got very suddenly pale and

42:13

then Beth worried that she was having

42:15

a seizure So it's kind of spooky

42:18

Piper assures her that she's fine Even though she

42:20

is absolutely not and asks if the camp has

42:22

a phone to call her dad Piper

42:24

again notices Annabeth calculating classic Annabeth

42:27

and Annabeth explains the whole

42:29

phone monsters thing But she still lends

42:31

Piper her cell phone if Piper promises

42:33

to keep it a secret one

42:35

of the things about these books

42:38

being third-person limited instead of third-person

42:40

omniscient is Everybody is

42:42

so observant These

42:44

are the most observant Like

42:47

evaluating group of teens that I

42:49

have ever met Annabeth

42:51

seemed really smart calculating. I was going to have

42:53

to watch out for her smart voice Yeah,

42:55

I mean it does kind of track with the story Percy

42:57

had a lot of that where he was reading emotions And

43:00

again, this is one of those things is just like it's

43:02

a book I know you gotta jog it up to

43:04

it being a book and otherwise it would be very

43:07

boring Piper was wondering what was going on Piper was

43:09

wondering what was going on Piper didn't know what was

43:11

going on She

43:14

calls her dad's private line and then I

43:17

read in parentheses Oh, so he is important

43:19

and she got the same thing. She's gotten

43:21

the past three days voicemail She then calls

43:23

the other number and gets her dad's assistant

43:25

and we learn that her dad's name is

43:27

mr. McLean So

43:30

I mean we

43:32

we've never learned Piper's last name. Yeah, the first time you learned

43:34

her. Yes. Yes You

43:37

being all condescending? I'm not

43:39

an idiot. I'm just on chapter 4 Piper

43:45

asks Jane the assistant where her dad is

43:47

and all she says is that he's out

43:50

Piper knows that this means Jane has no

43:52

idea where he is and asks Jane What

43:54

are you gonna call the police Jane says

43:56

she doesn't want a media circus and says

43:58

that he'll come back like he always does

44:00

and then basically just hangs up on Piper.

44:03

Annabeth says the last name McLean sounds

44:05

really familiar. Piper says it's just a

44:08

common name. Annabeth asks what her dad

44:10

does and Piper says, quote, he's got

44:12

a degree in the arts. He's a

44:15

Cherokee artist. And the

44:17

narrator reveals that this is her standard response,

44:19

a half truth that makes people think he

44:21

sells souvenirs. So I'm wondering, okay, is he

44:23

an actor? Is he a musician? Those

44:26

are ways to kind of say he's

44:28

famous, but I'm just going

44:30

to say he's an artist. So those

44:33

were the two ideas I had initially.

44:35

Annabeth looks suspicious and asks Piper if

44:38

she wants to continue. Piper fastens her

44:40

blade, promises to herself to figure out

44:42

later how it works, and then agrees.

44:45

Strolling past the cabins, none of them just

44:47

feel right to Piper. None of them feel

44:49

like home. She recognizes the Artemis cabin as

44:51

they pass it. And Annabeth is struck by

44:54

how much Greek mythology Piper knows. Piper

44:56

explains that she did some reading when her dad

44:58

was working on a project last year. And

45:01

project feels more like

45:03

actor than musician, but it also

45:06

does. Maybe this is just because I'm married

45:08

to an architect. Does also sound like architects.

45:10

Well, you know, us famous

45:12

architects in our private lines. Frank

45:16

Lloyd Wright, maybe. But

45:20

at this point I was thinking actor,

45:22

project, movie or TV show kind of

45:24

thing. Explain why Annabeth recognized the name

45:26

a little bit. Well Annabeth says she

45:28

had never seen a movie or is

45:31

that just in the TV show? The

45:33

TV show she said she never saw a movie.

45:35

I meant if Piper's dad is an architect. Right.

45:38

Yes. That's that's also why I was thinking. But

45:40

I feel I don't know. I feel like Piper

45:43

wouldn't be worried about like she

45:45

wouldn't be having a standard response like oh

45:47

my dad, the famous architect that everyone is

45:49

always being so annoying about. I don't think

45:52

that that's necessarily going to happen. Well,

45:55

I was architect with a famous lifestyle. Yeah.

45:58

You know, people are all. always

46:00

just stopping you in the streets.

46:03

Are you Kelly? Though

46:05

it is a thing when people notice like us,

46:08

the few times that it does happen, a lot

46:10

of the times people will be like, Oh, I

46:12

thought that looked like you. And then I saw

46:14

Kelly and I knew it was you. Or there

46:16

was the time when we got recognized in a

46:18

museum and a woman saw you in the women's

46:20

restroom and then was like, Oh, I knew you

46:22

must be here too. Yeah, she saw me in the

46:25

bathroom and went out

46:27

looking for you because I'm glad she gave

46:30

you some bathroom privacy and in

46:32

the middle of the bathroom, be like, are you Kelly? Which

46:35

was nice, I suppose. Or

46:38

that the time we were hiking in New

46:40

Zealand, right? And I was in front

46:42

of you and I passed somebody

46:44

who gave me kind of a look

46:47

that they knew me and I was like, I'm

46:49

going to turn around and see if they say something

46:51

to Mike. And then you came over the over the

46:53

hill and it's a

46:55

look on her face. I was like, Oh, she knows. She

46:57

knows who Mike is. That was the coolest because it

47:00

was so cool. They went to the Sydney Australia show

47:02

and then we were in New Zealand after and then

47:04

we just happened to be on the hike at the

47:06

same time. It was like a dad and his daughter

47:09

and she had said that she went to the

47:11

show with her sister who was like a bigger

47:13

fan. And then she thought he got to see

47:15

these hours. It was just such cool timing. And

47:17

then we ran into them again later in the day when

47:19

we were headed back down. It was very cool typing. It

47:22

was neat. It was pretty sweet. It was like a

47:24

selfie and everything. Anyway,

47:26

Percy Jackson. So Annabeth says, Oh,

47:28

I thought your dad did Cherokee

47:30

art. And Piper says, Oh, he

47:33

does other stuff too. Like that.

47:35

Piper thought she'd blown it. McLean

47:37

Greek mythology. Thankfully Annabeth didn't seem

47:39

to make the connection. So

47:42

Greek mythology makes me feel like

47:44

he acted in some Greek type

47:46

thing if we're going down the

47:48

actor route. But again, Greek

47:51

mythology made it feel more alike

47:53

because part of it to me

47:56

in my brain was Greek columns,

47:58

architecture. But

48:00

I still I'm still leaning actor and

48:02

he was in some sort of Greek

48:07

Movie or TV show or something where you

48:09

know They tell an old story of something

48:12

it is a cool way to give us a

48:14

character who knows a little bit more about Greek

48:16

mythology Yeah, it's a fun

48:18

way rather than book Percy Which

48:20

is just I happen to remember

48:22

the things only from my Greek

48:24

mythology and Latin classes It's

48:26

a more believable Well, I knew Greek mythology stuff because

48:29

I nerded out about it when my dad was acting

48:31

as Hercules in live-action

48:33

Hercules thing or whatever Anabeth

48:35

explains Artemis and the hunters a little bit

48:37

Piper is sad that Artemis can't be her

48:40

mom and she's uninterested in being a hunter

48:42

because Jason hyper is

48:44

fighting thinking that Anabeth would make

48:46

a good friend and How

48:48

no one will like her quote once they find

48:50

out they go past the

48:52

Aphrodite cabin Piper is revolted Anabeth laughs

48:54

but says that they're not all bad

48:56

and then we get this exchange starting

48:58

with Anabeth The last head counselor we

49:00

had was great what happened to her

49:03

and then the narrator says Anabeth's expression

49:05

darkened quote We should keep moving. She

49:07

was not great. She was the spy Beckendorf

49:10

is dead because of Selena Beauregard. She

49:12

is not great. She did a cool

49:14

thing at the end Sure, Clarice did all

49:16

the hard work. I know She's

49:19

not great. Yeah, are dead

49:21

because of her she Attempted

49:23

to redeem herself in the end and

49:26

did a brave thing in the end

49:29

But yeah, she wasn't great. No,

49:31

she was not great. She had so many opportunities.

49:33

She was deceptive For

49:35

five years or however long she was the spy

49:37

they didn't actually did they tell us how long there was a spy

49:40

I think it really ramped up with like book

49:42

four stuff But it wouldn't have been I

49:44

always assumed she was a spy the entire time Because

49:46

she had to have been passing information to

49:48

Luke and Luke left after the first I

49:51

think he had multiple but the thing is it

49:53

was like that Cronus charm thing and Cronus wasn't

49:55

reformed until for

49:58

right I think for

50:00

because it was in the labyrinth when they get to Mount

50:02

Authoris. So I think that

50:04

it was just kind of like two years

50:06

of being the spy. But

50:08

regardless, people are dead because of

50:10

her. She could have revealed like the

50:13

big thing with me and Selena, she could have told

50:15

Percy in the Plaza Hotel when no one was around

50:17

because her whole thing was like, I didn't want people

50:19

to get mad at me. You could have told Percy

50:21

and it would have been okay. Could have been a double agent. Like,

50:24

yeah, there's so many choices. Yeah. So many

50:26

chances. She's not

50:28

great. She's not great. I don't like this. And

50:30

I don't like that. I really don't like that.

50:33

They like keep trying to be under the rug.

50:35

Learn from your mistakes. Personality wise, though, I think

50:37

they're trying to say that she's not like through.

50:39

Sure. Yeah. And instantly don't like because

50:41

she's been identified as a mean girl. Yeah.

50:44

Maybe that's what she was going for. Like, oh,

50:46

Selena was likable, except for the fact that some

50:48

of her friends are dead because of her. Like

50:50

that kind of fundamental moral issue she has. She

50:53

is responsible for the death of some really

50:55

good souls. I don't know, but she did

50:57

a nice thing at the end. So mingle

50:59

rumble. Anyway, and it explains

51:01

the Zeus Hera thing, the big three

51:03

packed thing, all that kind of stuff.

51:05

Piper can tell the Anabeth doesn't like

51:07

Hera. Anabeth says that they have a

51:09

history that she thought was over, but

51:12

when Percy vanished, she got a strange

51:14

dream featuring Hera. And here's

51:16

my big home run thing. Is

51:19

Hera the mistress that's been talking to

51:21

people in dreams because that could

51:23

be very interesting. I still feel like the

51:25

mistress is probably someone we haven't met yet.

51:28

But are we going to get evil Hera?

51:31

Let's not at least remember notes here. Piper

51:34

guesses it was the dream that told her to

51:36

come and get them and if it says she

51:38

doesn't want to talk about it because she has

51:40

nothing nice about her to say. And

51:42

then I wrote them in notes.

51:44

Oh, or is Hera Piper's mom.

51:50

All I got is that Hera is going to

51:52

be important and it can go one of two

51:54

directions. We're either getting like nice Hera or we're

51:56

getting evil Hera. There's no in between. Hera

51:58

is going to be a big freaking deal. And it's

52:00

one of the two and you can't say anything because

52:02

I've installed a trapdoor here in our closet Try

52:06

to think something I can say move it along Wouldn't

52:10

both of those scenarios be interesting though?

52:12

Either would be great and I would love it

52:14

if it's one of them or both She's

52:18

evil Piper asks who goes in

52:20

the cabin and if it says no one

52:22

Piper disagrees because there is a footprint on

52:24

the dusty Entrance so clearly someone has gone

52:27

in at some point Piper enters

52:29

despite Annabeth's protesting and she immediately doesn't like

52:31

the vibes All that's inside is a statue

52:33

of Hera and a brazier which is lit

52:35

which intrigues Piper of okay well, if no

52:37

one's in here who's lighting the brazier and

52:41

As narrator says quote no, this wasn't her mom

52:43

at least Piper was sure of that She hadn't

52:45

come in here and that made me really think

52:48

that it's her mom She hadn't come in here

52:50

because she felt a good connection But because her

52:52

sense of dread was stronger here her dream that

52:54

horrible ultimatum She'd been handed had something to do

52:56

with this cabin and this is very

52:59

remote Hera is either her mom or the mistress

53:01

and I am in dream Piper

53:04

then can tell they aren't alone and notices

53:06

someone in a black shawl chanting a prayer

53:08

of sorts and if it recognizes

53:10

the figure as Rachel is with air and Narita

53:13

pepper lets us know that Rachel is but there are 17 Oh,

53:17

okay, Rachel's with they're canonically older

53:19

then Percy and Annabeth How

53:22

I'm one year at least for Percy.

53:24

I don't know what an abyss birthday is but

53:27

I just turned 16 technically You're

53:30

older than me right now She

53:32

loved to hold it over my head for

53:34

three months three months Not

53:36

even it's less than three months I'm

53:47

a 32 year old man who's never

53:49

read my Percy Jackson book says I

53:52

will her away Piper

53:55

then can tell So

53:58

we learn about Rachel's but there

54:00

that she's wearing a green blouse and jeans

54:02

with marker doodles all over them classic and

54:05

she's also barefoot, which is interesting. Rachel's

54:07

but there apologizes and says that she came

54:09

as fast as she could. They talk about

54:11

Percy for a bit and then Annabeth realizes

54:13

she's being rude and introduces Piper to Rachel

54:15

and Rachel to Piper. Piper

54:17

checks that she's the friend who lives in the

54:19

cave. Rachel's but there confirmed Piper checks that she

54:22

can see the future and Rachel's but there says

54:24

quote more like the future mugs me from time

54:26

to time. I love that description. That's so funny.

54:28

I love Rachel's but there she's fantastic. I'm so glad

54:30

she's in the mix. Rachel's but there

54:32

explains a bit more about her whole Oracle

54:34

stuff. Piper is confused that

54:37

a mortal would be in this cabin and Rachel's

54:39

but there says that there's some sort of connection

54:41

with Percy going missing and this cabin. So Hera's

54:43

got to be in there and I think it

54:46

would track for Hera to be more involved in

54:48

Heroes of Olympus because we really didn't get a

54:50

lot of Hera in PJL.

54:52

She got into the mix in book four a little bit

54:55

and a little bit in book five, but really not

54:57

much. You look at all the Olympians. She's

55:00

really the one that was in the

55:02

least. Everybody else kind of did some

55:04

stuff. We don't get a lot

55:06

of Apollo, but I know or at least I'm assuming

55:09

that the trials of Apollo are about him and not

55:11

Apollo Creed from Rocky and

55:14

everybody else had a pretty sizable role. So

55:16

I wouldn't be surprised if Hera maybe Hestia

55:18

coming back to you since she was only

55:20

a little tiny bit, but she was still

55:22

in the last Olympian. She was the last

55:24

Olympian. She was the titular last Olympian. So

55:27

I feel like Hera being in Heroes of

55:29

Olympus would make sense. So

55:32

I'm intrigued. So Rachel Elizabeth Dare says

55:34

that she follows her hunches, especially ever since

55:36

the gods went silent about a month ago.

55:38

Piper and me say, went silent? Rachel

55:42

Elizabeth Dare is shocked that Annabeth didn't tell her yet.

55:45

Annabeth explains that it made for a better plot.

55:47

Chiron nods in approval in the distance. But

55:50

no, Annabeth says that she was getting to it

55:52

and was going to tell her eventually. She

55:54

says that silence from the gods

55:56

isn't uncommon, but usually you get

55:59

some messages, sort of communication.

56:01

And then she reveals that

56:03

the Empire State Building is Olympus and

56:06

explains all that to Piper and Piper

56:08

has the perfect response. Sure, why not?

56:10

Which is just great. I love it.

56:12

That made me like Piper so much,

56:15

so much. And what's funny

56:17

is I was doing a bonus episode

56:19

on Patreon where I was going through all the questions

56:21

that people had sent in the livestream Q&A because there

56:23

were too many for me to answer on stage. And

56:26

in one of the emails, someone mentioned that the

56:29

last year was the first PJO book

56:31

they read and they were

56:33

really confused. They very much felt like

56:35

Piper and Jason not knowing what's going

56:37

on. That's very interesting. And I just

56:39

imagine that if you didn't recognize that

56:41

there was a whole previous series, you

56:43

would get to this point and then

56:45

you would say, sure, why not? Yeah.

56:48

Sure. So

56:50

then you get a similar kind

56:52

of joke when Annabeth continues on

56:54

saying that Dionysus is the camp

56:56

director and Annabeth explains that the

56:58

entrance was closed. No one knows why.

57:00

None of the gods are answering prayers. And Dionysus,

57:03

the camp director, was recalled and Piper basically asked,

57:05

I'm sorry, the God of wine was in charge

57:07

of the game. So things

57:09

were already bad. Then Percy went missing

57:11

and then Jason showed up. So there's

57:13

just a whole lot going on in

57:16

rapid succession. Piper reminds Annabeth

57:18

that she got a message from Harrah

57:20

though. And the best is like, yeah,

57:22

the most useless goddess contacts her least

57:24

favorite demigod telling her to find some

57:26

guy with one shoe. They all agree

57:28

that something weird is going on. Piper

57:30

finally musters up the courage to describe

57:33

her dream. But then Rachel is there

57:35

goes stiff because of course her eyes

57:37

glow green. She grabs Piper's shoulders and

57:39

in a voice that sounds like a

57:41

woman trapped deep down in a well

57:43

says, quote, freebie Piper

57:45

McLean, or the earth shall

57:47

swallow us. It must be

57:49

by the solstice. And I love that the solstice

57:52

is the deadline again. This is like Stephen King

57:54

making every book in Maine. I love it. Just

57:56

make every deadline. The solstice. I don't care. Give

57:58

it to me every single day. time. It's

58:00

perfect. No, no, it's so happy. But

58:03

again, I'm trying to figure out who this is. Calling

58:06

her Piper McLean full first name, last

58:08

name feels less like this

58:10

would be her mom, or at least

58:12

if this is Hera as the voice

58:15

doesn't feel like Hera's. I don't know. The full name

58:17

made me feel like this might not be her mom,

58:20

but I'm super

58:22

interested to see what's going on. I don't

58:25

know, but this does

58:27

feel like we've got an

58:29

evil voice speaking to Piper and

58:31

then a good voice speaking to Piper. I

58:33

don't think this is the mistress unless they're

58:36

trying to trick her. But because so recently

58:38

we have the mistress being like, and

58:41

like showing up in the dream and in the blade,

58:43

I don't think all of a sudden the mistress

58:45

would hard pivot into pretending. Yeah. Like I, if

58:47

anyone's played this right, I'm into video game and

58:49

there's something where a villain basically does a please

58:52

rescue you and then you save a person and

58:54

then it's a villain. And you're like, oh, dang

58:56

it. Like, I don't think it would

58:58

be that very much if you've seen Spider-Man one, when

59:01

Green Goblin pretends to be the old lady and then

59:03

terrifies Michael Schubert for the rest of his life because of

59:05

the jump scare with a, yeah, like

59:07

it is, I don't think it's one of

59:09

those things. So I think this is a

59:11

good person being genuine. Like you gotta free

59:13

me or the earth shall

59:16

swallow us. Oh,

59:18

that makes me think Arranis is

59:20

what Arranis was the sky guy was

59:22

the earth. Unless evil

59:25

guy. No, so

59:27

many possibilities. Anyway, Anabeth tries to

59:30

separate them, but it's no use. Green

59:32

smoke covers all of them. Piper can't

59:34

tell what's real and what's not. The

59:36

statue seems to rise from its throne

59:38

and look Piper in the eyes and

59:40

open its mouth. And then some voice

59:42

says, quote, our enemies stir. The fiery

59:44

one is only the first that feels

59:46

like the mistress. The fiery one is

59:48

only the first bow to his will

59:51

and their King shall rise, dooming

59:53

us all free me. And also

59:55

Piper notes that the statue had

59:57

bad breath, which seems impossible. But

1:00:02

I don't know who the he is

1:00:04

for bow to his will and their

1:00:06

king shall rise, dooming us all like

1:00:08

that. I don't... There's

1:00:10

so many things. There's so... There's

1:00:12

a lot. There's a lot. Like too much, I feel

1:00:15

like, for me to even make any sort of guess.

1:00:18

But whatever it is in my notes is, I think

1:00:20

this is the good guy counter to whatever

1:00:22

evil Dream Piper has been having. Everyone

1:00:25

feels like the bad voice can't

1:00:27

be Leo because fiery hammer. So

1:00:30

I don't think that that's the fiery one.

1:00:33

Like I think the fiery one is the evil fire

1:00:35

thing. We saw her dad in front of fire. Like

1:00:37

I think that could be whatever's going on with the

1:00:39

mistress and stuff like that. Piper's knees

1:00:41

then give out and everything goes black. And that's

1:00:43

the end of chapter four. So what do you

1:00:45

want to title chapter four? I, if

1:00:48

going with a quirky little thing, I would say

1:00:50

I obtain a family heirloom. Okay.

1:00:53

Okay. I

1:00:55

hold my cards close to my best. Okay. Nice.

1:00:59

I don't know. That was

1:01:01

chapter four. Kelly, thank you so much for joining.

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This was a delight. It was a

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delight. It was difficult to say

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nothing to your word soup there at the end.

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I know. I know. But

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that is... That's the name of the game.

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That's the name of chapters early on in a book, especially

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You're welcome. Thank you for listening. And until

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1:02:46

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