Episode Forty-Five: British YouTubers

Episode Forty-Five: British YouTubers

Released Monday, 14th November 2022
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Episode Forty-Five: British YouTubers

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Episode Forty-Five: British YouTubers

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Hey, guys. Welcome back

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to violating community guidelines.

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Back again for more. Mhmm. as

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always. And we're your host, Britney Brozky.

1:43

And Sherr

1:44

shower.

1:44

And what are we talking about today? Today?

1:47

It's the long awaited

1:48

episode. Something that raised both

1:50

of us. Mhmm. It's

1:51

British YouTubers. Yeah. Oh,

1:55

great.

1:57

I think Zuwala was, like, one of the people who, like,

1:59

unintentionally and introduced me like, ASMR.

2:02

Yeah. It was, like, when she would decorate stuff, like,

2:04

we're gonna talk about who's all in it, but, like,

2:06

I remember Zuela, like, from, like,

2:08

twenty thirteen, twenty fourteen. Yeah.

2:10

Yeah. That

2:11

I mean, this whole

2:12

group was so Like,

2:15

you wanna talk about comfort creators. This

2:17

was I looked forward to every day.

2:19

They all they would have the same

2:21

day, like,

2:21

they'd all be hanging out. and vlog it. So it

2:23

would be the same video from six different angles.

2:25

Yeah. I would I would watch every single one. Yeah.

2:28

Like it was just the greatest thing ever. Mhmm.

2:30

And I was watching some of these videos back,

2:32

like, in preparation

2:32

for this. And was like,

2:34

man, they were boring. Yeah.

2:36

It's because they were hot and they had accents.

2:38

Yeah. the novelty. I think that's why

2:40

I love Ireland.

2:40

It's popular too. It's the novelty of, like, you

2:43

guys, that's so stupid. Yeah.

2:44

We're, like, the majority of the jokes rely

2:47

on their accent. Yeah.

2:48

Yeah. Well, I'm

2:50

very excited about this because I

2:52

used to read Jack's cat fan fiction. So

2:55

this

2:55

means a lot to me.

2:56

Like where they would kiss. Well, not

2:57

together. Oh, not. They do call that

2:59

Twin Sest though. Oh, yeah. It's

3:01

a lot. Yeah. But

3:03

I do I I used to read animation

3:06

of of Jack and insert original

3:08

female character. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Yeah.

3:10

So I'm very excited about this. Also,

3:12

just going back and watching the videos, like I said,

3:14

was just such blast from the past. I watched

3:16

some of the Jack's Gap. Rick

3:18

Sean were you a big Jack's Gap girl? Or were you

3:20

like I like just them as a group.

3:22

Okay. Yeah. the Brit crew --

3:24

Yeah. -- which I had never heard them referred to

3:27

as that until literally Nick put the or Stanley

3:29

put this together.

3:29

Yeah. And then I also I think there was also

3:31

it was the there's this South African guy? And then

3:34

there was a leak. Yeah. And then there was the

3:36

gay guy from California. Dean

3:38

and Phil? No. Well,

3:41

I'll talk about him later. But yeah. But

3:43

if you do Tyler O'Clay. Yeah. Yeah. That's

3:45

weirdly grouped into this Brit crew as well. I

3:47

know.

3:49

Alright. So just a little disclaimer

3:51

before we start. Obviously, this is not a

3:53

a all inclusive thing.

3:56

We're definitely gonna leave out some people probably

3:58

that burger faves. Mhmm. I don't care.

3:59

This is our

4:02

podcast. Yeah.

4:03

And yeah. So just don't be

4:05

mad. Also, if you have stories,

4:08

or any people that we left out of,

4:11

like, any meetups that they used to have. If

4:13

you, like, met them at VidCon or anything like

4:15

that, please

4:15

in the comments tell us because I wanna

4:17

read your stories. Yeah. So With

4:20

all that being said, would you like to intro us?

4:22

Alright.

4:22

So this is by the Rolling Stone. It's

4:24

an opinion piece. So in the twenty tens, you

4:26

can escape a certain friendship group of chirpy,

4:29

cheeky British YouTubers, the breakthrough.

4:32

But when their star rated members stopped uploading

4:34

and their household names were forgotten, the

4:36

breakthrough generation of YouTubers from twenty fourteen

4:38

is a nostalgic era for Gen Z. And I would

4:40

also say millennials because they are

4:42

millennials as well. Well, like, if you were

4:45

in your late teens, early twenties at the time

4:47

that, like, so I was. I was, like, that was a

4:49

completely

4:49

different experience. I was, like, thirteen. And I was,

4:51

like, I wanna be her so bad. I kind

4:53

of, like, grouped it in, like, we could have been friends

4:55

because of them are born in ninety three and ninety four.

4:57

It was kind of like how, like,

4:59

Riley Cyrus in Hannah, Montana. I was, like, since

5:01

she's only two years older than me, realistically, if we

5:03

were in school together, we could be

5:04

friends. Yeah. each each other.

5:06

Yeah. So youTubers such as Zoella

5:08

pointless blog, Tanya Bur and Spring Glove

5:10

glitter. Oh my god. Spring Glove glitter, her daughter she

5:13

posted her daughter on TikTok, and she's like, I'll

5:15

grow now. That's so fucking weird. I know

5:17

not all grown. She's like eight. Right. She's

5:19

both now. Yes. Pay

5:21

the way for creators to earn a living for YouTube and

5:23

gain international fame. but where are they now

5:25

and what are they doing? These YouTubers,

5:27

film collaborations, wrote books, and released

5:29

makeup lines, all of which were eagerly snapped

5:32

up by their pre teen audience For many

5:34

members of Gen Z, this YouTube era is remembered

5:36

as a time when many of their favorite creators

5:38

were regularly up would regularly

5:40

upload opt in filming videos with one another.

5:42

Their friendships were authentic, funny, and relatable.

5:44

And they use the word funny, very loosely.

5:47

Very, very loosely. Yeah.

5:49

I remember coming

5:52

home from school and seeing. Like, I had

5:54

post notifications on and being like,

5:56

yes. Yeah. Like, just it was

5:58

just

5:58

such a release, like, something to

5:59

look forward to.

6:01

And I have not had that in so long -- Yeah. --

6:03

because it was regularly scheduled

6:05

uploads. Mhmm. feel like

6:07

the nature of the Internet's just kinda changed.

6:09

Yeah. It's really twelve days of vlogmas, stuff

6:11

like that. That's just overwhelming at this

6:13

point. Yeah. Wait. I wanna see what the last

6:15

thing that Zolile uploaded is.

6:18

YouTube. She kind of fell into,

6:21

like, oblivion after twenty

6:22

twenty. say, like, a cult. Wait. No.

6:25

Actually, she's pregnant. I got a baby. With

6:27

Alfie? Yeah. Oh my god. They actually got me I

6:29

remember for the longest time everyone was like, you guys

6:31

should date. And then, like, they have to, like, make videos on,

6:33

like, know, we're not together, and then they eventually, like,

6:35

through force, started dating.

6:37

Yeah. Love that. Thanks Internet people. Yeah. It's

6:39

like the fan names were, like, Mike Tyson,

6:41

two birds. No kids.

6:42

You know? Those are

6:45

Oh, no kids. And they're broke,

6:47

you know, they're broke together.

6:49

No. But

6:49

seriously, like, her last video was five days ago, it was five

6:51

hundred and sixty three thousand views. That's wow.

6:53

Do they mean she fell off? She's

6:56

doing

6:56

quite well. Between twenty seventeen and twenty

6:57

twenty, she definitely it was like a rough period.

7:00

Oh. views kinda dipped. Well, I'll get into

7:02

that later because I

7:03

there

7:04

he listed them later

7:05

in the dock and it's like,

7:07

Where are they now? Yeah. And some of it's

7:09

really sad. Yeah. Some of it's, like, good for them.

7:11

She took a couple years up to grow out her side bang.

7:13

And now

7:15

that that's over,

7:16

she's ready. You took

7:18

out these symptoms. Yeah. Okay.

7:21

So First of all, I just wanna

7:23

say that almost every single one

7:25

of these people we're about to talk about

7:27

wrote a fucking book and I

7:29

don't know why that was such like,

7:31

that was the move for YouTubers back then. I

7:33

mean, Tyler Oakley, Shane Dawson, and

7:35

all of these people. And

7:36

it's like, what

7:38

naval gazing,

7:40

like, mindset. Do you have to have to be like, you

7:42

know what? I have something to share with the world.

7:44

Yeah. In print, for all of history to

7:46

remember. I

7:47

know. Have you heard of the podcast celebrity

7:49

memoir book club? No. So,

7:51

like, these girls They

7:53

read each week, they read a celebrity memoir.

7:55

And so, like, they haven't done, like, any

7:57

of the British YouTubers, but, like, the way that

7:59

they,

7:59

like, Amy Poehler, like Amy Schumer, like, they

8:02

go through all these -- Yeah. -- and some of them are obvious

8:04

cash grabs. And I feel like if they were

8:06

to review one of these or any of these, it'd be,

8:08

like, obvious cash grab. for

8:09

this. Yeah. Like Marcus

8:11

Butler released one and it was all about it was

8:13

called Hello World. Yeah. And it was all

8:15

about just, like, dating

8:17

and dieting.

8:18

Yeah. Like, if you want a cookie, eat some

8:20

lettuce. Yeah. And that's just like,

8:22

who greenlit this?

8:25

Is

8:25

there any quality filter -- Yeah.

8:27

-- around this time? because it was like so

8:29

many YouTuber books. And,

8:31

yes, it is a cash grab. I guess that is

8:33

true because they knew that anything

8:35

they put out like these preteens would buy --

8:37

Yeah. -- with their parent's credit card. So I

8:39

get

8:39

that, but it's also like, I wonder if

8:41

they look back and they're like, why did I do that?

8:43

Yeah. I just I honestly

8:45

honestly just for, like, probably money.

8:47

Yeah. Yeah. If you were to write

8:48

a book, what was you? What'd

8:50

you do? If I were to write a book,

8:52

oh, shit. How about you start since you came

8:54

up with the question? If I if I

8:56

wrote a YouTuber book, I would

8:58

have one of those, you know, in the

9:00

middle of some books, it's just pictures. Yeah.

9:02

But it would be pictures that I take, like, of weird

9:04

moles on my body. It would just be, like, a

9:06

flip through -- Yeah. -- of just weird medical pictures.

9:08

This

9:08

is just a medical journal. Like, different

9:11

skin ailments.

9:11

Anybody told me what's this

9:14

in my stomach? My

9:17

god kicked off my parents' picture.

9:20

The

9:20

forward is like, I know what you're thinking this

9:22

will be, and it's not that. No. First picture

9:25

just collection of moles. My

9:28

eczema. It's like a yearbook of

9:30

moles that you named on your body.

9:32

Like, a to z and then my class. And

9:34

then you have all your molds like who do wrestling.

9:36

I'll learn

9:38

-- Sorry. -- put a little

9:39

ink on it and dab it on the book. Yep.

9:42

Yep. Jesus Christ. So that

9:44

is

9:44

sick. Jesus Christ.

9:47

Yeah. Mine would be that, and then it

9:49

would be like, oh,

9:50

what about a

9:52

journal of what you eat that day and then

9:54

you poop.

9:55

Yeah. It'd be a pretty extensive

9:57

vlog.

9:59

Seven hundred Facebook. Yeah.

10:03

Be looking out for that in Barnes and

10:05

Noble. Twenty twenty three.

10:07

What would yours be?

10:09

Oh,

10:09

shit. What would mine be? There

10:11

should be fucking hilarious. Probably

10:14

lessons I learned in life and, like,

10:16

how long it took me. Mhmm. And then

10:18

just, like, from I don't know. Like, the lesson

10:20

like, the the lesson is

10:21

the chapter title. And then, like, just like, the

10:24

chapter is, like, from twenty sixteen

10:25

to twenty nineteen, I realized I can

10:27

ask people for help. and I just go

10:29

through, like, funny times. And then the next time

10:31

was, like, I realized I could be gay, and

10:33

then I go from twenty twelve to twenty eighteen.

10:36

So it's just, like, I feel like life lessons

10:38

and, like, how stupid long it took me to realize each

10:40

shit. So yours would be really good. It's

10:42

okay. You would like actually,

10:45

yeah. Well, no. It wouldn't be good. It would

10:47

be like who the why does it take you so

10:49

long to realize you like, these similar

10:51

lessons? Well, that is some of

10:53

these books tend to lean

10:54

self help. I guess that would be that would fall

10:57

under that. Mhmm.

10:57

And that is like a when you've grown

11:00

up with people watching you. It's very

11:02

interesting

11:02

perspective. So I guess

11:03

in that sense, Mhmm. I get why

11:05

some

11:05

YouTubers would wanna write a book, but if I can

11:08

What are we

11:08

talking about? Marcus Butler?

11:10

I have no idea. But I mean,

11:12

like, your main equality is being

11:14

hot, it's pretty hard to, like, translate

11:16

that into words. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

11:19

Yes. make it like a coffee,

11:21

like table, like picture book of your face, and

11:23

like selfies, you don't have to write. Just

11:25

pick whole pics. Yeah. Take pics,

11:27

nipple pics, could be a book that sells, like,

11:29

probably more copies, honestly. Congrats.

11:31

She did that. She did. Yeah. There's a a

11:33

coffee table book just called selfie or something like

11:35

that, and it's literally just pictures that she took

11:37

of herself. Kim Kardashian Coffee

11:40

table book. If I

11:41

went to a man's house and he had that on the table, I'd

11:43

be like. Is

11:44

it, like, annotated?

11:46

Because

11:48

he, like, posted

11:50

notes on

11:50

each page. I

11:56

can annotate a picture of a picture of us.

11:59

Dogfish is a I'll come back to

12:01

this one later. You

12:02

just stop reading.

12:04

Get too tired. That's all

12:07

consuming. So we're gonna

12:09

talk about the members of do you

12:11

have a little bit more to say? Yeah.

12:13

So I

12:14

what I talked about earlier of if

12:16

any of you guys have personal stories with these people,

12:18

there was something called Summer in the

12:20

city you remember that? Mm-mm. It was like

12:22

this kind of YouTube convention meetup,

12:24

but it was only in London. Mhmm. And I think

12:26

it was in twenty twelve, and it any

12:28

of you bitches went, please

12:30

tell me the stories. Yeah. Because it

12:32

was a weird almost like fire

12:35

festival tanicon thing. Yeah.

12:37

Where it was kinda legit, but kinda

12:39

not. And they

12:39

they advertised it using Zuela's

12:42

face, but then she, like, wasn't really

12:44

there for

12:44

half of it. It was like, fans

12:46

were upset -- Yeah. -- the vibe that

12:47

I got. So if any of you were there, please

12:50

comment because I wanna read. And

12:52

then also this all is kind of

12:55

bookmarked

12:55

at the end of twenty seventeen. Mhmm.

12:57

So what we're talking about is probably

12:59

twenty eleven to twenty seventeen. Yeah.

13:01

Twenty seventeen, everyone just kind

13:02

of faded into oblivion. Or they're

13:05

they just grew up

13:06

actually. Yeah. You know, like, a lot of these they were

13:08

late teens, early twenties, and now it's you're getting

13:10

close to thirty. It's like, obviously, the

13:12

content's gonna be different than what

13:14

we used to love them for. Mhmm. And also

13:16

us at that age what we wanted. Yeah.

13:19

So the first one

13:19

I'm gonna attack him, hug him, hug him,

13:24

hug him. I love

13:26

him so much.

13:26

Were you ever A

13:28

Jack's Cup, Stan. Like,

13:30

briefly, I remember them because they

13:32

were, like, the twins. Yeah. And they were cute. And

13:35

they did stuff with Tyler O'gley and all that.

13:37

Yeah. You said you broke?

13:38

Well, we can only speculate. I I mean,

13:41

I like Tyler O'Gley, and I feel like Tyler

13:43

O'Gley, like, kind of, like,

13:44

lasted a little bit longer than

13:46

the group. Mhmm. But I don't actually don't know

13:48

what Tyler O'Kley is doing right now, but you like

13:50

Jack's Gap, I'm assuming. You read

13:52

the fan fiction or you wrote in. red.

13:54

Okay. Yeah. No. I I saved

13:56

the writing for Cole Sprout.

13:59

Oh,

13:59

important people. Yeah.

14:02

The

14:02

last thing I remember about Tyler Oakley recently

14:05

is when he called out Charlie during

14:07

the pandemic for, like, partying.

14:09

Charlie. Temelio. Oh, Do you

14:11

remember that? It was like Tyler Oakley that did this

14:13

great takedown of some of these teenagers

14:15

during the pandemic. No.

14:16

I was like, No

14:17

tolerable. Like, I can't believe I missed that. I had

14:19

his notifications on. When

14:22

subscribed his Patreon? Oh

14:24

my god. Yeah.

14:26

You that. was a big moment. But I imagine

14:28

so, like, circling back to your fan fiction.

14:30

If you wrote Colespress, he

14:33

Colespress, he went to war why can't there be,

14:35

like, the Jack's Gap kids in, like, his platoon?

14:37

Right. You know? Oh, no. They definitely would

14:39

have fit in. Yeah. Yeah. They've got the build and

14:41

the the make of a soldier. someone in

14:43

mind. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

14:45

Yeah. I'll get to

14:46

work on that immediately, guys. I'll I'll

14:49

publish that soon. Jack's Gap x

14:51

Tyler O'Kley. It's Cole's brows. Drop.

14:54

Yeah. Would

14:57

you like a piece of it? Would you like to be the platoon

14:59

leader? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What is

15:01

a platoon? A platoon is

15:04

like a banana that you can

15:05

eat. You

15:09

can fry it. Yeah. Try

15:11

it. That's such a goofy

15:13

word. There's such a serious thing.

15:16

Okay. My

15:19

Alright. Jack's Gap

15:21

is a British inactive YouTube

15:24

channel, which is owned by identical

15:26

twins,

15:26

Jack's in Jack Harry's and

15:29

Finnegan Fin Harry's, both

15:31

born May thirteenth, nineteen ninety three.

15:33

Originally created by Jack Harry's to document

15:35

his gap year in mid

15:37

eleven, the channel experienced a rapid

15:39

increase in popularity after the addition

15:41

of Finn as a

15:42

regular contributor. In February twenty

15:44

seventeen, the Twitter and Instagram account for Jack's

15:46

Gap were deleted, followed by the

15:48

dissolution of the Jack's Gap

15:50

brand. It was an international day of

15:52

grieving -- Mhmm. -- for me, at least.

15:54

Yeah.

15:55

After Fin joined the channel, the views nearly

15:58

doubled because it was like, oh my god, he's

15:59

so hot. There is two of them. Yeah. And then you

16:02

could pick which one was favorite dude. If I

16:04

had a twin, my views are cut in half.

16:06

For the same reason, oh my

16:08

god, there's two dogs. Yeah. Fox just became

16:10

the largest watch this channel. Wow.

16:14

Jack Harry's attended Bristol University

16:17

studying drama. but dropped out in

16:19

twenty thirteen after the first year to

16:21

focus on YouTube, like any

16:23

regular YouTuber.

16:24

Yeah. A normal person would go. It takes

16:27

so much willpower

16:27

from, like, say,

16:29

go to college. Just go to college. If

16:31

you're finding success online

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19:46

Anyway, Jack's Gap

19:48

attracted teenage girls in

19:50

particular for obvious reasons.

19:53

Mhmm. But which is kind of unfortunate because

19:55

if he didn't look like that, people would really

19:57

appreciate his creativity a lot more. I feel like --

19:59

Mhmm. -- he wouldn't have had as much success if he

20:01

wasn't -- Yeah. -- hot like

20:03

we always talk about. Yeah. These people are

20:05

successful.

20:05

It it aids their success

20:08

in being hot, but Jack was such

20:10

a I mean, still to this day, like,

20:12

he's one of my favorite creators

20:13

probably of all time. because

20:15

he's easy to look at. But also,

20:17

he was such a visionary in

20:19

terms of short film making.

20:21

He had such incredible new

20:23

ideas back in, like, twenty fourteen, twenty fifteen,

20:25

when the mental health thing wasn't as

20:27

fucking commercialized as it is today -- Mhmm.

20:29

-- he was one of the first to make a video

20:31

that was, like, hey, I'm

20:33

really struggling. And I wanna be very transparent

20:35

about this. And that was cool

20:37

to see from one of your favorite creators. It's like, you

20:40

know,

20:40

you're normal too.

20:41

And then on top of that, a

20:43

lot of his content towards the end was

20:45

geared towards charity and fundraising. And

20:48

then the eventual

20:48

turn to climate awareness.

20:50

Yeah. And I really appreciate his

20:52

perspective on it because there's a lot of

20:54

anxiety that comes with climate

20:56

change.

20:56

You know? Yeah. misinformation,

20:58

disinformation about climate change

21:00

on the Internet. It's a lot of doom scrolling. It's

21:02

a lot of feeling helpless.

21:05

His channel that he kind of rebranded into. It's called

21:07

Earthrise. It's the same Jack's Gap

21:09

account, but it's just

21:11

completely climate focused. content

21:13

is very optimistic. And I

21:15

feel like we don't see that near

21:18

enough of like we can

21:20

change and it's coming from the voices

21:22

of young people,

21:23

you know, instead of older people telling you

21:25

that, you know, we're doomed and there's whatever. So

21:27

I really appreciate that he's using

21:29

he is the definition of using the

21:31

platform that he created from doing fun

21:34

stuff to promote a serious issue that he

21:36

really believes and he was arrest

21:38

did -- Mhmm. -- protesting at the, like, international

21:41

petroleum week or something like that. He's just

21:43

incredible. And I love him very much, and I

21:45

wish him the best. Yeah.

21:47

separately, the idea of International Petroleum

21:50

Week. Like, my mind went to, like are

21:52

there, like, is like an oil festival?

21:54

Like, I imagine like But I just bathe in each other

21:56

in oil. They're like different booths. for, like,

21:58

you can try, like, different types of

21:59

mushrooms. This is definitely misleading.

22:04

Well, like, those taste

22:07

testing things where you, like, put, like, three different

22:09

types behind a wall and try to guess what it

22:11

is. Oh, but that's actually incredible that he did

22:13

that that you pivot, like, that, like,

22:15

so

22:15

hard. Yeah. It takes a lot of

22:18

I

22:18

mean, that's very anxiety inducing. And it's, like,

22:20

I

22:20

don't think for him the idea of

22:22

keeping an audience yeah, was really on

22:25

his

22:26

mind because it's like he obviously was

22:29

famous and went viral or whatever for

22:31

this type of content. But

22:33

the audience was just an added

22:34

bonus. You know? If even if he

22:36

wasn't Internet famous, I feel like Jack Harry's would still

22:38

be promoting climate change awareness.

22:41

Yeah. And that's really special. That

22:42

is.

22:43

International Petroleum Week. It's just Petroleum

22:45

Shelly. You're sick in Vaseline.

22:49

the When when a

22:51

super dry skin comes out, international

22:55

eczema festival, there's like a slip

22:57

inside of just petroleum challenge. You have

22:59

to be naked. It says

23:01

he also follows a vegan

23:04

diet citing the documentary cowsperacy

23:06

and the environmental impacts of animal

23:09

product consumption. Yeah. I know that the fucking C02

23:11

emissions from just cow farts is insane.

23:14

And then you add me

23:14

into the MAX and it's just Oh

23:17

my god. I am an

23:19

international threat.

23:23

So, yeah, he's

23:24

done a total rebrand and that's actually

23:26

a really incredible Do you still follow

23:28

him? I do. Okay. And mainly

23:30

on Instagram though, he's the most active on Instagram.

23:32

He it still posts on the Earth

23:34

Rise YouTube channel, but they get, like,

23:36

fifteen thousand views. Mhmm. Like, people absolutely

23:38

do not listen to him. Yeah.

23:40

because he also doesn't do he doesn't

23:42

play the YouTube game -- Yeah. -- of

23:44

putting thumbnail.

23:46

And who which with the circle,

23:48

red dot What's happening to the

23:50

Earth? You'll never believe that

23:52

we are going die in twenty years. Yeah. So I

23:54

he doesn't play the game, and I think that

23:57

that really

23:57

affects the views of his channel.

23:59

But I you know,

24:01

it's this larger discussion of ethics

24:03

-- Mhmm. -- in content sharing. So

24:05

I just love him.

24:08

would

24:08

you like to tell them

24:09

about my Marcus and Butler? So we also got

24:10

Marcus Marcus Lloyd Butler. Lloyd

24:13

Lloyd. Lloyd, for

24:15

December eighteenth nineteen ninety

24:17

one, He's an English model and former

24:19

YouTuber at Model. Whose channels have

24:21

reached over four point one million subscribers. In

24:23

twenty fifteen, he released an autobiographical book

24:26

Titled Hello Life. I wanna see the reviews

24:28

for that. Hello LifeReviews.

24:30

life reviews

24:32

the If it's

24:34

not good, I'm gonna kill myself. Oh,

24:36

no. Goodbye, Parkinson's

24:39

Hello Life. Oh, that's not the same

24:41

one.

24:41

Oh, god. He took a turn. I was like,

24:43

holy shit. So

24:44

Butler Kawhi was at a radio show with

24:46

fellow YouTuber Alfie Days. Oh

24:49

my god. Alfi. So in twenty ten, he created

24:51

his YouTube channel, Marcus Butler

24:53

TV. Butler has been involved in a

24:55

number of collaborations with other YouTubers,

24:57

including Jim Chapman, Alfi

24:59

Days Casper Lee. That's the South

25:01

African one. It was I thought he was

25:03

cute. Oh, that was so lovely Casper

25:05

Lee. Tyler Oakley Joe Sugg,

25:07

a is Lisa Connor Franta, Lilly Singh,

25:10

choice of one, Joey gracefa,

25:12

Louis Pantline, Connor Maynard, and

25:14

others. I realized I have

25:16

a favorite a song by Connor Maynard called Turnaround that I've

25:18

been listening to for years. And now I'm just like,

25:20

holy shit. He was in this, like,

25:22

British YouTuber thing. That's where I know him

25:24

from. And

25:25

trolley too. I mean, it's weird to think

25:26

of these people as, like, they did what we

25:29

do. Yeah. How do you just, like,

25:30

completely rebrand? Yeah. It's

25:33

really in

25:34

spiring. You leave England. Yeah. You

25:36

just put that out

25:39

there. Butler's book

25:40

Hello Life, which is part autobiography

25:42

and part self help book. that

25:46

I was published on July twenty eight,

25:48

twenty fifteen in the UK and in the US

25:50

on November tenth, twenty fifteen. That

25:52

is way

25:52

too fucking late. Yeah. I graduated

25:55

high school in June

25:56

of twenty fifteen.

25:58

Mhmm. I was not

25:59

watching fucking Marcus Bueller. Getting

26:01

mental health advice from him. I

26:04

mean, he has four stars. It's

26:07

Who rated it now? No.

26:09

There's a one thousand six under, like,

26:11

votes. What's it about? I wanna see it.

26:15

Gonna

26:15

read an excerpt.

26:16

Marcus Butler's irrelevant irrelevant.

26:20

has long combined laughs in comedy sketches with thoughts and more

26:22

serious issues. What sets him apart from the rest is

26:24

his ability to mix lighthearted banter with the

26:26

deep empathy for the problems facing young

26:29

people today. Alright. Thanks to

26:31

his his experiences of family illness, his

26:33

parents' divorce, weight issues, and

26:35

catastrophic hair days. Marcus

26:37

is a unique position to share everything he has learned

26:39

about healthy living relationships and dealing with

26:41

the daily pressures life throws at us.

26:44

He is so silly. I know. The parents

26:46

divorced family illness, catastrophic

26:48

hair days. Well, I know they threw that in there to

26:50

be funny, but like get me started.

26:53

I'm kinda show you here.

26:55

It's like

26:57

darkest

26:57

hours. It's because

27:00

my hair won't aren't normal. ideating.

27:02

I didn't

27:05

stand up right that day. I went

27:07

to inpatient

27:07

for a colleague.

27:12

I

27:13

wonder

27:16

because sure

27:17

there are things that all of us struggle

27:19

with. But when you look like that,

27:21

Mhmm. Or his brother objectively is cute.

27:24

Yeah.

27:24

It's, like, getting dating advice from someone who's

27:26

really hot -- Yeah. -- and who's never

27:29

been unattractive. absolutely skewed. And you know that deep in their

27:31

soul, they probably could be a really good

27:33

person, but it's like you are you

27:35

start off like, with an always

27:37

see you as a person. Yeah. Especially

27:39

one to be desired. Yeah. So some people are still

27:41

trying to get to that being seen as a person

27:43

level. Yeah. You know, I

27:46

urge all of the podcast.

27:47

If you're

27:48

hot, try to be ugly for

27:50

a day. Yeah. Like Walk a mile in

27:53

our

27:53

shoes. Mhmm. k? Because I'm sick of

27:55

this. Yeah. I really

27:57

am. I

27:57

am so sick of hot

27:59

people online. I've seen enough.

28:02

Mhmm. We've had

28:03

it. We're marching

28:04

together to end

28:06

hot people being famous

28:08

online. Only Fuddles from here on out.

28:10

Alright, guys?

28:11

Of. So as

28:14

of February twenty nineteen, Butler

28:16

adds over three point three million followers on Twitter

28:18

and over three point four million on

28:20

Instagram. So TV alongside

28:22

fellow YouTubers, Joe Sugg, and Alfie Days

28:24

Butler started an episode of the British television

28:26

show, released the hounds. It's

28:29

just They just stick the queen's corgis on

28:31

people. Dog

28:34

fighting.

28:34

their

28:38

episode aired

28:38

on March second twenty seventeen.

28:41

He also started many episodes of

28:43

Saturday night takeaway alongside days

28:45

Also in twenty sixteen, was a contestant on celebrity

28:47

master chef but got eliminated in the quarter

28:50

finals. I remember it

28:50

well. Real

28:51

did really? No. I mean, he made it to

28:53

the top. The quarter finals. Twenty seventeen, I

28:56

was, like, in

28:58

my horror

28:58

era in college.

29:00

You

29:00

keep saying that, but you won't expand

29:03

on it. Something to

29:05

tell. A lady never tells. Oh

29:07

my god. So in twenty seventeen It's

29:09

gonna be a tell when I release my

29:11

memoir. She did skinpicks, and then I just talk

29:13

about Dick's size. Twenty there's,

29:15

like, of, like, fucking eighty pages of just moles.

29:17

And then there's a chapter on my horror era.

29:19

And then it

29:19

goes back to, like, determine

29:22

titus or something. What's

29:25

that thing

29:26

called, like, when they put, like, a

29:28

little surprise in, like, a movie?

29:30

Cameo.

29:31

No. No. No. Like Easter

29:33

egg. Easter egg. Your Easter egg is just

29:35

your horror on the book. Yeah. Easter egg is the secret

29:37

to life. Yes. I love when

29:39

they when they interview old people and they're like,

29:41

what's the secret to being a hundred and

29:44

seven? Yeah. And they're like, whiskey

29:46

and cigars. Yeah. Mine's

29:48

gonna be I don't know.

29:50

Still

29:50

working on it. You don't have a

29:51

secret to life yet? I don't have a secret

29:53

to life. Oh, because

29:55

my back

29:55

hurts every day. It's

29:58

really

29:58

upsetting, actually.

29:59

Yeah. Do you ever wear, like, a corset?

30:02

No. I mean, so, like,

30:03

a heated bag. I keep

30:05

going for a vacuum. The doctors, like,

30:07

you tried this? Yeah. That's a whalebone cord

30:10

set. He likes to get

30:12

up with that. Well, I mean, have you ever tried,

30:14

like, a you've never tried, like, a heating pad?

30:16

I

30:16

mean, for, like, No. I

30:18

haven't. I love heating pads. Like, when I'm like,

30:20

I know that I'll be working, like, all day. I put one on,

30:22

like, before I start working. And then so, like, I

30:25

thought, like, I just get tired really

30:27

quickly, but I realized I'm just in pain --

30:29

Yeah. -- on my back. So then, like, when I got

30:31

rid of that, I could work all day. Is it because we're

30:33

hunched over the computer like the fucking dad

30:35

from correline all the time. It's are you hunched over the computer

30:37

all day? I guess, why do we're back

30:39

to her? I don't know. constantly

30:42

picking up Cinderblocks.

30:43

Oh, moving him

30:44

up the drive. Why

30:47

is my back hurt?

30:48

Wheelbarrel support

30:52

eggs. Just tilling cement.

30:55

Are we doing

30:57

this? He has

30:59

to meet his wife. What are we

31:01

even making? So

31:03

in twenty seventeen, Butler appeared on

31:05

good morning, Britain alongside fellow

31:07

YouTuber, Louise, Pantlin, Sprinkled glitter,

31:10

giving tips on how to become a successful

31:12

YouTuber. Number one,

31:15

the be

31:16

hot. Be hot.

31:17

Number two, you can try to be

31:19

funny. Mhmm. Number three,

31:21

hide your face. Yeah. If being hot doesn't work out, hide

31:23

your face. Number four, start ten years

31:25

ago. Yeah. Mhmm.

31:26

So if you didn't, I'm really sorry about that.

31:28

That's the big one. Yeah. Go back

31:30

in time. And Matt margin, like

31:32

being sixteen today.

31:34

Right. That means you

31:36

were born in what year if you were sixteen today.

31:38

Who two thousand

31:41

four. Two thousand

31:43

six. Sixteen.

31:47

Twenty

31:47

money two minus sixteen. Six.

31:49

Two

31:49

thousand six.

31:50

Yeah. Oh. Two thousand six,

31:52

I was

31:53

just starting sixth

31:55

grade. Damn,

31:55

dude.

31:57

That is like imagining sixteen

32:00

today and being like, I wanna be a

32:01

YouTuber when I grew

32:02

up. Yeah. It's impossible now. There

32:04

aren't way too many. Mhmm. You could find success

32:07

on YouTube, but it'll never be this

32:09

like the age of becoming

32:10

a pewdiepie

32:11

or becoming Ozzarella

32:14

is gone.

32:14

I say the only industry on online

32:17

that you could get in on the ground floor right

32:19

now is probably VR or

32:21

AI. Yeah. And that means you'd have to pivot

32:23

towards art and, like,

32:25

learning computers. But pretty much

32:27

the video, text, like,

32:30

images, long form video is pretty much already, like, done and taken it.

32:32

You have to be truly unique in

32:34

that regard.

32:34

Which begs the

32:35

question, why do we get

32:37

to do this. Yeah. Truly an

32:39

anomaly. We have unique looking

32:41

bodies. I mean, I

32:43

would say, like, the vine. I got in,

32:45

like, pretty earlier. You definitely did. Yeah.

32:47

The vine was such a limited like, we

32:49

talk

32:49

about this all the time. We talked about it in the vine episode

32:52

of, like, you it's not infinite scrolling.

32:54

You know, there are only a handful of creators --

32:56

Mhmm. -- that I mean, you are one of

32:58

the most followed. Mhmm. It other

33:00

than, like, the fucking peaks and all

33:02

them. Yeah. But, like, for original

33:04

grassroots content creator, you were one of

33:06

the originals, and that unless there's another

33:09

app, there will never be another

33:10

app that will

33:10

dominate TikTok. Yeah. TikTok has the

33:13

monopoly on short form videos. It is.

33:14

It's gonna be impossible. So then

33:17

this is the advice. Be an early

33:19

adopter or be truly unique in

33:21

that you blow up into a viral meme is

33:23

pretty much like how that you're gonna blow

33:25

up.

33:25

Yeah. There's also the

33:27

music butler was part of a YouTube boy band, a

33:29

group of involving Jim Chapman, Alfie Days, Joe

33:31

Stug, and Casper Lee that raised money and

33:33

awareness for comic relief. on

33:36

January twenty second twenty sixteen. Butler

33:38

released a song with Connor Maynard called I'm

33:40

famous. It entered the UK singles

33:42

start on January twenty nine twenty sixteen at

33:44

number eighty five. I am

33:45

encourage all of you to watch these videos

33:47

at your own wrist. Yeah. The cringe

33:50

factor is on level nine thousand. Be

33:51

completely sober when you watch this. Please

33:53

It is a it is a jump scare. It is so awesome. I

33:56

want to unzip my human

33:58

meat sack and, like, take it off and hang it

34:00

up on the wall. I wanna do the whole out of my

34:02

skin. Yes. And

34:04

now Marcus Butler is just, like, super into

34:06

crypto -- Mhmm. -- which I still don't

34:08

understand. I went to this, like, Instagram

34:10

event yesterday at Well meta, and they were they had this,

34:12

like, presentation on, like, what NFTs are.

34:14

And I was, like, I I don't retain

34:16

any of them. You literally spoke for an hour on

34:18

NFTs, and I was, like, I still don't

34:21

under I mean, I get it. It's art you can buy for, like, tokens.

34:23

It's the monkey with the thing. Yeah. But I'm

34:25

like, what what's the point

34:27

of this? You know? Yeah. I

34:29

mean, I can't imagine unless you're a photographer and

34:31

artist that you would really want to invest

34:33

in NFTs. I don't know why,

34:35

like, comedy people are getting, like,

34:38

the whole feel is what I don't understand. And though, like, I

34:40

see it in the

34:40

news of Kim Kardashian being sued for

34:43

whatever, and I'm just, like, I

34:45

don't care enough

34:46

to even learn about this. Yeah. I

34:48

mean, like, you're not supposed to you are the

34:50

original artwork owner. But, I mean, you could

34:52

just screenshot it and print it a UPS

34:56

USPS. Yeah. So UPS store, and then, like,

34:58

put it on your wall. Yeah. Because you don't sell it,

35:00

you're fine. Yeah. Yeah. Well, even

35:02

then, fucking red bubble

35:04

exists. Yeah. You send it as stickers. I bought so many things off

35:06

a red bubble as a teenager,

35:06

and then I was like, oh, this is

35:08

icky. Yeah. Like, deaf

35:10

stealing people's work. Would you

35:12

buy?

35:14

ah Just

35:16

fan stuff.

35:16

Honestly, like, probably some

35:20

Sherlock stuff.

35:21

pillow cases, things like that. Like,

35:24

one direction pillow cases. Mhmm.

35:25

Thought those on red bubble. Just

35:27

the shittiest quality you've ever seen. But

35:29

I was like, oh, It's

35:31

like eighty pixels of Harry Styles

35:33

face.

35:33

Yeah. So you wash it once and

35:36

it crinkled away. It's like

35:37

in my mouth as I'm

35:39

so Yeah. It was awful.

35:40

I got like scent. I feel

35:42

so bad about this. I got like scent like mugs by

35:44

people and they put stickers on the side like spelling

35:46

stuff. as soon as I wash

35:48

all the stickers come off, it's just, like,

35:52

fart. It's my night. even funnier.

35:54

It's my morning

35:56

mug until Talk to me. No. Talk

35:58

to me usually. I've had my alright. We've

36:00

got to

36:00

talk about alfie days. Mhmm. Alfi

36:04

Days started his YouTube channel,

36:06

pointless blog in two thousand

36:08

nine. I love a hyper self

36:10

aware moment.

36:10

Mhmm. I do love it. As

36:13

of January twenty twenty one, the

36:15

channel has over four point eight

36:17

million subscribers and over five hundred and

36:19

nine million views

36:22

on YouTube. that's

36:22

insane. I know. These people it

36:25

just it begs I

36:27

always have to zoom out because I'm

36:29

so macro and just be

36:31

like, it's remind yourself,

36:32

it's not about how interesting

36:34

or unique the person is. Mhmm.

36:37

I wish the world worked

36:39

like that. about right place at the right time. Yeah.

36:41

You know, giving people the content that they

36:43

didn't know they wanted. Mhmm. And I

36:46

always have to remind myself because I see these numbers

36:48

and I'm like, hell, who is deserving

36:50

of that much attention? Yeah. I I think we've

36:52

talked about this before -- Yeah. -- of, like,

36:54

who is there one person who

36:56

deserves to be

36:56

the most followed person -- Yep. -- of,

36:58

you know, someone else. It's just

36:59

so the mind games that

37:02

social media plays on you is wild.

37:03

Mhmm. Anyway,

37:05

his

37:06

vlogging channel has point six million years ago.

37:08

Who fucking cares?

37:10

Days has

37:12

collaborated with a number of other YouTubers,

37:14

like everyone else, Tanya Bird, Louis Cole,

37:17

Grace Helbig, Tyler Oakley, Choice

37:19

Avon, Miranda Sings,

37:20

Joe Sugg, Zoe Sugg, and

37:22

Jim Chapman. He also created a

37:24

couple videos with Ariana Grande to

37:26

the YouGeneration Network on YouTube. Do you remember that? Yeah.

37:29

Iconic. Oh my god. Grace

37:31

Helbig.

37:31

I was

37:33

on her podcast. You were? Yeah. Is it why

37:35

we drank or before we drank or No. That was the

37:37

one with Mamrie, I think. Yeah. I

37:39

forget what it's called, but I did it

37:41

during the pandemic.

37:43

Oh, I just love her.

37:45

She's the best. Mhmm. In

37:47

twenty

37:47

thirteen, Days was a member of the Guinness

37:49

World Records OMG

37:52

Channel. and held a number of world

37:54

records including most bangles put

37:56

on in thirty seconds by a

37:58

team of two. Start

37:59

shaking your arms. Yeah. most

38:02

bangles put on. But I feel like

38:04

that means nothing at this

38:04

point. Like, I'm a Guinness Book of World

38:07

Records holder for most bangles put on

38:09

in thirty seconds. by a team of two. You that's by

38:11

team

38:11

of three. Yeah. Hey. Got you beat

38:13

there. Yes. Is this your opener at a

38:15

party? They don't know why I'm the fucking kid.

38:17

It's a little bit older. Most

38:19

party poppers popped

38:22

in thirty seconds with a count of twenty

38:24

nine, beating

38:25

the previously set record

38:28

by one. This is just

38:28

groundbreaking stuff here. I know. It

38:30

really is. And

38:32

filling the most

38:33

pancakes in

38:36

one minute. with chocolate sauce and bananas, which was seven.

38:38

How do you

38:39

even I was

38:41

like, who? He

38:44

gives a shit enough in the Guinness Book of World Records to

38:46

be like, who did a team?

38:48

Yes. Mine

38:50

would be most carbon monoxide ingested

38:54

without dying. It would

38:57

be

38:58

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39:02

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39:04

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41:52

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41:54

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41:56

they are? Oh, you're gonna pop

41:59

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42:02

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42:04

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42:06

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42:07

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42:10

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42:11

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42:13

the next. It's like, what is your

42:15

fucking schedule look like?

42:18

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42:20

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42:22

someone who, like, signed a paper to, like, say that

42:24

they watched

42:26

something? Notary. Yeah. There's just like a

42:28

Guinness Book or like Notary. He's just like, yeah. You did that. Yeah. Congrats. How do you

42:31

feel? Any regrets?

42:34

Yes. Oh, okay.

42:36

So I do wanna talk about

42:38

this controversy that Alfie had

42:39

if you remember this. This is kind

42:41

of later in the like

42:42

Brit crew thing. Yeah. He had this video where he

42:44

tried to live off of one pound

42:46

a day, like one British pound a day,

42:48

and people were not

42:50

happy. because he

42:51

would try to do something. He'd be like, oh, I

42:54

can't do it. It's too everything's too

42:56

expensive. And they commented, and

42:57

they were like, you're turning poverty

42:59

into a game. Yeah. Like, this is UCOS playing as a poor person

43:01

for a day. It was not

43:02

well received. Yeah. And then it started

43:04

going around online people were calling inventory

43:06

-- Yeah. -- which

43:07

is like their British republican -- Oh. -- and

43:09

he had to make this apology video that was like, I'm not

43:11

a Tory.

43:12

I was thinking that he's

43:14

a

43:14

Tory in Argentina. Okay.

43:18

Corey Vega. Yeah. We know a

43:20

pound. I feel like you should just stay home and

43:22

cook what you have at your house. I know. Right?

43:24

Then you wouldn't spend any money. Yeah. But then in same

43:26

video, he was like out buying clothes

43:28

and TVs

43:28

and video games and stuff like that. And

43:30

they were like because he was like, you can't live

43:33

off of a pound for

43:35

a day Hello? Uh-huh.

43:36

I was a little

43:37

bit busy. Yeah. I was

43:39

speaking backwards. For

43:40

food and water, Mhmm.

43:43

Who am I trying to say?

43:43

That was the challenge. It's like

43:44

eating and drinking for a day under a

43:46

pound and he

43:46

couldn't do it. Aren't there, like, rivers

43:49

in London?

43:53

God. Cup your hands and

43:55

drink

43:55

The river water. I'm running

43:57

water. Oh,

43:57

yeah. So there must be, like, Cody

43:59

Coveine, where,

44:02

like, It was, like he

44:04

was, like, talking to someone from, like, Europe and he didn't know how to start a conversation. He's, like, y'all

44:08

got roads.

44:08

That's

44:12

what's off. That's what's off. Oh

44:14

my god. I was just taking out a

44:16

jacket and then the other day It's

44:20

hot, by the way. Mhmm. And it distracts from his comedy because he's

44:22

so hot. Uh-huh. And we we're

44:24

talking about how that's the funniest response

44:27

if someone's like, trauma dumping on you were, like, just

44:29

oversharing. Yeah. God, I just

44:30

things have been really hard. I just

44:32

I'm ideating. I am just, you know, thinking

44:34

about it again. It's like -- Yeah.

44:37

That's what's

44:37

up? That's that's what's up.

44:40

For

44:40

sure. Oh, yes.

44:43

Just, like, don't know how

44:45

to support the brand help. So

44:47

you guys I'll I'll give you permission to steal that one if you

44:49

want it. Okay. Anyway,

44:52

that's a reaction video of us or

44:54

Ossabella, Alfie days. She's thinking

44:56

about Osabella. Being like, I'm not

44:58

a Tory. Yeah. Never said it

45:01

was a Tory. And Yeah.

45:03

What you said, Torres

45:04

are British Republicans? Basically. Okay.

45:06

Yeah. What are the British Democrats? I

45:08

think they're

45:09

just called the liberal party. Oh.

45:11

Wait. Wait. British There's like

45:13

a socialist party

45:14

as well as well.

45:16

I'm like, no. Do I?

45:18

Crads

45:20

are called. Liberals

45:22

yeah. You're

45:23

right. Okay.

45:26

I am a

45:27

British citizen. That's all I knew.

45:29

Mhmm. Yeah. So Okay,

45:31

Zuela. Zuela. It's kind of weird

45:33

because, like, they keep saying Zuela's hug.

45:35

And I'm, like, I know that's her last name because she

45:37

got married, but I'm, like, she's just Zuela. That's her

45:40

real name. What? Remember Joe Suggins? Oh, well, the Suggins, their

45:42

brother's sister. Oh, shit. You understand what I

45:44

mean? that's how they got into his

45:46

last name. No.

45:48

Yeah. So well, like, shared her

45:50

brothers and everybody out of forgot.

45:52

The same last name. They were a

45:54

little

45:54

flirty in some videos. I remember

45:57

that. I don't wanna say

45:58

anything but yeah. Well, we

45:59

did a lot. What'd you expect to be like? Yeah.

46:02

Yeah. You can't

46:02

have your beautiful kids. I expect to

46:04

get a little touchy feeling. I

46:07

don't know anyone who's

46:09

like siblings who are like way too

46:11

close. Yeah. Fucking Brent Brent Rivera

46:14

and his sister. No. They're not like

46:16

way too closed. I mean, like, they're not touching feely at all. I mean,

46:18

like, Brent Rivera. Brent Rivera. Oh, I

46:20

was thinking you're talking Brentvin rock. No. I was thinking you're talking Brentvin

46:22

rock. I was like,

46:23

Kimvin princess. No. I'm

46:26

a princess. fist fight. I was like, they're not kidding.

46:28

If they touch it, they're fist making a

46:30

connection. Yeah. That's like yeah. No.

46:32

Brit Brit Rivera -- Mhmm. -- and his

46:34

sister

46:34

was like, Why are y'all touching each

46:36

other like that? Oh my god. Dude, I

46:38

knew this kid in high school who like his

46:40

his his sisters were gorgeous, but like

46:43

every single profile picture of

46:45

his was there was, like, different ones, like, every month

46:47

of his sisters in Bikinis. And I was,

46:49

like, oh, there was multiple ones. And

46:51

I'm, like, what is this? Are you

46:53

trying to, like, I don't what's happening. I hadn't got

46:55

a therapy and I didn't have the

46:57

language to describe weird. Yeah. Like,

46:59

I was like, they does that

47:01

seem weird as you know? mister fucker, girl. So I'm

47:04

just like, what the fuck? Okay. Yes.

47:06

So as well as Sug was

47:08

working as

47:10

an apprentice. at an interior design company when she was creating her blog,

47:12

Soella, in February of twenty two thousand and

47:14

nine. By the end of the year, it had

47:16

a thousand followers, and

47:18

I've said as of September twenty

47:20

fifteen, it had received over two fifty million total visits. That's wild.

47:22

I mean,

47:23

I loved, like, she

47:26

had a Christmas. Like, she had several Christmas episodes where

47:28

she decorated her house. And I thought they

47:30

were so aesthetically pleasing, and I, like, used

47:32

it as ASMR. Yeah. Like, she, like,

47:35

open the door and, like, showed, like, the

47:37

tree. Yes. And I fell asleep to it every night,

47:39

and then I moved on to, like, ASMR, like,

47:41

calculus, and that's

47:42

how I learned calculus. Yeah. And then

47:45

Gyno. Yeah. Gyno. Gyno.

47:48

Calculus. Christmas decorating. Gyno. Cyno. Cyno.

47:50

Cyno. They do the radius of

47:52

my haul. With a

47:54

candy cane?

47:58

Like,

47:58

what size

47:59

bulb I can Yeah. Alright. Alright. The glass here. Just

48:02

Aren't you curious?

48:04

Hey. Sorry. I was

48:06

feeling that I was

48:10

more

48:11

So the fashion beauty and lifestyle blog

48:14

expanded into a YouTube channel in two thousand and nine,

48:16

while SUG was working for British

48:18

clothing retailer, new look.

48:20

Sug's main channel is Zewella. First name is Zewella

48:22

280390

48:24

mouthful. After her birthday Oh,

48:27

seems so Security question.

48:29

Yeah. Unsaved. Is mostly

48:32

fashion beauty hauls in her favorites videos? I know she went

48:34

to Primark a lot. That's what I also remember. Mhmm.

48:36

And I always wanted to visit, like, because she would

48:38

always bring something back. And I was like, that's a British

48:40

thing. I remember that too. They used to

48:43

shop. I thought Zara -- Yeah. -- was

48:45

a British thing for so long. Yeah. Until I

48:47

and top shop. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Top

48:49

shop allowed. Yep. That's in the the grove. And every time I

48:51

go in there, I'm like, this British people

48:53

think. Yeah. Oh my god. It smells like

48:55

a bunch of

48:56

givitis in there. She

49:00

also

49:00

like, showing her favorite product,

49:02

whatever. She was the blueprint. Everyone wanted to

49:04

be her. She invented red lipstick. Oh my

49:06

god. The rocking red lipstick. Right.

49:09

She looks slip with that on. Yeah. I'm pretty sure it's a

49:11

tattoo. Never smudged. God. She wanted she

49:13

had the bitches wearing

49:15

red lipstick to fucking

49:16

Algebra at eight AM. Dude, she was,

49:18

like, the epitome of, like, two thousand and

49:21

fourteen. The intense other day.

49:23

And then the red wipes -- Yeah. --

49:25

red lips. She had the cute pearl

49:27

earrings. She was so everything. Yeah. My

49:30

God. And also people

49:31

went feral for

49:32

Xelphi.

49:34

Xelphi. Yeah. What Sarah said

49:36

earlier about they were

49:38

their sexual chemistry

49:40

on camera made me just like

49:42

sexual

49:43

chemists. Sexual well Sexual tension. They just say. Okay.

49:45

Yeah. Like I

49:45

said, I show them. I don't think

49:48

either of them are particularly,

49:50

like, sensual.

49:50

but I

49:52

feel like they bumped elbows and didn't hate it. Yeah. Well, however British people

49:54

flirt. Yeah. I just thought, I

49:56

think, you know, I cannot open the

49:58

door for

49:59

you. Yeah. And he's

49:59

like, yeah. than the

50:02

pregnant. Yeah. Other than the

50:04

kids. Can offer you

50:06

a brisket. Kids. And

50:08

the next thing you know, they're married. I

50:10

think that that

50:12

was

50:12

so, like, iconic. And

50:13

then there used to be fan edits on

50:16

YouTube of, like, selfie's cutest moments.

50:18

So I want every single one.

50:20

Yeah. To, like, Christina

50:22

Perry's. I've died every

50:25

day.

50:27

Oh,

50:27

this is. or, like, the one I

50:29

die. Yeah. Yay.

50:30

Just and

50:32

it was just like a still image, and then

50:34

it would it's like a slideshow.

50:37

I'm assuming that, like, tomorrow night.

50:40

Yeah. Or dissolved with, like,

50:42

bubbles. Oh my

50:43

god. We have bring those

50:45

back. Mhmm. With like a sepia filter.

50:47

Yes, dude. God.

50:50

I was so happy in

50:52

twenty fourteen. she was forced

50:52

to reveal they were dating because Internet sleuths are

50:55

invasive but bitch. They're so

50:57

that's

50:57

your note.

50:58

Her second channel, Marzuela,

51:01

contains mostly vlogs where she shows her viewers

51:03

what she does in her day.

51:05

Thirty minutes, it's straightening

51:08

her bank. In

51:10

twenty thirteen, she was named

51:12

as one of the national citizen service ambassadors

51:14

helping to promote the newly

51:17

launched youth service. the following year, she

51:19

was named as the first digital ambassador for mind, the mental health

51:22

charity. And Stanley, I didn't note

51:23

that said so well, you

51:25

saved my lives. me

51:28

asking Stanley to research this and be

51:32

like, okay. This could

51:34

not give less of a shit.

51:36

Sug launched a

51:37

range of beauty products under the brand name Zabella

51:39

Beauty in September twenty fourteen. So she was one of

51:41

the first. Yeah. Oh my gosh.

51:43

She's before Kylie. You're

51:46

so well fucking Tanya.

51:48

Hard

51:48

Like,

51:50

yes. Were some of

51:52

the first ones

51:53

to do it. This was, like, the

51:55

age the naked -- Mhmm. -- and all that.

51:57

Oh, fuck.

51:58

The creators of, what's that, like,

51:59

really nice brush? Make a brush that you

52:02

can buy? everywhere. They're like,

52:04

alright. Yeah. Real Techne is a

52:06

YouTuber. They're the Jim Chapman sisters.

52:08

Yeah. Yeah. What? Like, they were

52:10

related. Oh my god. I watch

52:12

their beauty tutorials before I watch his shit. That's wild. That is so crazy. I

52:15

always buy real techniques brush. Yeah. Fresh is.

52:17

They're great. Yeah. Yeah.

52:19

It started Jim

52:21

Chapman's sisters started that way back when.

52:23

And

52:23

then also, people didn't know

52:25

for the longest time

52:26

that Joe and Zoello were

52:28

actually siblings -- Yeah. -- because he was like, he had his own

52:31

thing going. Mhmm. It's so everyone's

52:33

connected. It's

52:35

so crazy. So in

52:37

September twenty sixteen, SUG released a collection of homeware products,

52:39

including stationery, candles, and read

52:41

diffusers. And now we

52:43

have to talk

52:44

about the Zoella advent calendar. No one it seems like

52:46

no one

52:46

in recent history can do a good advent

52:49

calendar. No. Is it stupid? Yeah.

52:51

Like the Chanel one

52:53

was like half paper. Products just so dumb.

52:56

Mhmm. To pay that well, the Chanel one was

52:58

about five hundred dollars. Something stupid

52:59

like that.

53:01

Philly samples. stupid. Mhmm.

53:03

This one was Zoella released it.

53:05

It was sold

53:06

for fifty British pounds.

53:09

And and it was

53:10

literally, like, glitter

53:12

stickers

53:12

-- Yeah. -- hair bubbles. Like,

53:15

little hair

53:15

ties. Yeah. It was just

53:17

nothing. It was a bunch of junk. You could go to someone made a

53:20

video where they went to Dollar Tree and recreated it for

53:22

like eleven dollars. Okay. I'm looking at it. She was

53:24

selling it for fifty pounds, which is like

53:26

seventy five American dollars.

53:28

Actually, the pound just

53:28

plummeted. Wait. So in the there's a

53:30

picture of, like, the first twelve days. It's a

53:33

candle, an ornament -- Mhmm. --

53:35

a sticker collection. a

53:38

key chain bobble, a little tiny

53:40

itty bitsy notes thing,

53:42

a little fucking what's that thing

53:44

that holds a drink? Coosy. Coosy,

53:46

chapstick, another

53:48

smaller candle, some little cookie cutters,

53:50

a little tiny makeup bag

53:53

and a pen. You

53:54

would buy it. Yes. I would. Yes. If

53:57

Jack's Gap released an advent calendar, I'm

53:59

buying it. I

53:59

would buy purse at

54:02

goodwill, and I would find all the shit in

54:04

my

54:04

chute club.

54:06

Yeah. A bunch of

54:08

receipts, some leftover gold food. Yeah.

54:10

Blue skull fish.

54:12

Yeah. That

54:13

was a this is a big

54:15

thing. And

54:15

then she didn't even apologize for it. She

54:17

didn't do anything. She just made this long,

54:19

like, twenty minute video. And then at

54:21

the end, she was like, I've been

54:22

working on this for years,

54:25

and the price point was out of my

54:27

hands and all the shit. It was like, girl.

54:29

Mhmm. That's still

54:29

your on the branding and, like, you know, all that --

54:31

Yeah. -- poorly handled. And

54:32

this is before the

54:34

age of YouTuber apologies.

54:37

In twenty

54:37

seventeen to twenty twenty, it was bad content. She promoted

54:40

a vibrator brand and people are mad.

54:42

I fucking love vibrators,

54:44

selling vibrators. It is like what

54:46

my brain like, if if Marlboro could

54:48

advertise online, they should reach out to

54:50

me. Like, I mean, like,

54:52

that's that's literally, like, I love the

54:54

whole, like, dirty Like, just, like,

54:56

not dirty, but That was not her

54:58

brand. It's at all. She was

55:00

incredibly family friendly. Oh, yeah. She was like

55:02

the Mary. Like, she had, like,

55:04

immaculate conception. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh my god. Yo.

55:06

How did that happen? Her

55:08

entire lower half is a

55:10

hyman.

55:11

Sorry.

55:16

Sorry. Oh

55:16

my god, though. The fucking early YouTube

55:18

was so crazy. Like, people literally

55:21

had to apologize before they told

55:24

something. Hey, guys. I can't, like, afford

55:26

rent this month if I don't plug this. I just wanna

55:28

let you know that ahead of time. Yeah. But this is

55:30

sponsored by whatever. No.

55:31

It's like sponsored by

55:34

Marla and Bud Light.

55:36

I don't give a shit. Yeah. Like,

55:38

oh my gosh. And not Casperley, if you wanna

55:40

take it away. So

55:41

Casper Lee was South African, and

55:44

I don't know if he lived in London or if

55:46

he would just fly out. I

55:48

don't remember.

55:48

He started his YouTube channel decast in

55:50

twenty eleven and later renamed it Casper.

55:53

He was part of

55:54

the YouTube boy band that

55:56

fucking everyone else's end that

55:58

raised money in twenty fourteen for relief.

56:00

comically He was

56:02

named with

56:03

all these, like, all these YouTubers at the

56:05

time

56:05

were given distinguished honorable

56:08

-- Yeah. -- titles and all this stupid

56:12

like, top ten people to watch, web savvy,

56:14

people to watch -- Mhmm.

56:15

-- just old people writing

56:17

columns.

56:19

In

56:20

twenty sixteen, Casper Lee starred in Laid

56:22

in America alongside YouTube comedian

56:24

KSI. Lee appeared in

56:27

the music video for Charlie XEX's twenty seventeen

56:29

single boys. Uh-huh. And in August twenty seventeen,

56:31

Lee was named Chief Visionary

56:33

Officer of Influencer Limited, a

56:35

British influencer marketing

56:37

agent Oh, yeah. They reached out

56:37

me one time. Really? Yeah. And I

56:40

was like, I'm so sorry. I no. I'm

56:42

so sorry. British people are not

56:44

real. So I don't believe in you guys. Yeah.

56:46

You guys

56:46

goes need some

56:47

more evidence for me. Mhmm. But

56:49

this was I mean, Casper Lee

56:52

was speaking

56:53

from personal experience. I always thought he

56:56

was the edgy one. Yeah. Like him and Sampepper were the edgy ones. Yeah. And

56:58

that's

56:59

why they had their

57:02

cult following. Says Marcus was kind of the aloof. Mhmm.

57:04

Alfie and Zolella, we just wanted them

57:06

to get married, and then Casperian, same pepper,

57:08

like, the bad Yeah.

57:10

because a lot of their content was kinda

57:11

focused around pranks. Mhmm. And, you know,

57:14

the I think the first video cast

57:16

really ever

57:17

found success from was I prank my

57:19

mom into thinking I got someone

57:22

pregnant. Or something like that?

57:24

Yeah. And same pepper did kind

57:26

of the same, which we'll talk about. I guess, same

57:28

pepper now. Mhmm.

57:30

I used

57:30

to and I will say this.

57:33

because I'm

57:33

being vulnerable with you guys. I just don't

57:36

love sitting up really.

57:38

And then he just went that

57:39

shit. Yeah. He went

57:41

before our eyes. He went back shit crazy. Mhmm. I loved his

57:44

accent. He likes when it told a lot, basically, it's

57:46

very light. And I was like, no

57:47

one talks like that. Everyone else is really posh.

57:49

Didn't you have the bowl

57:52

cut? Sam

57:52

Peller. He had these rosy cheeks and he

57:54

was skinny, like, tumbler

57:57

boy that everyone wanted. And

57:59

then he just went

57:59

back shit crazy. Yeah. He had that, like, hair that,

58:02

like, just, like it was, like, a big, like,

58:04

pillow on top of his head, like, one of

58:06

those. Yeah. Like a beetle

58:07

cut but worse. Yeah. Like a beetle

58:10

cut. The beetles. Yeah. The beetles if they

58:12

were stuck in a wind turbine and then

58:14

someone sprayed them with a bunch of hair spray,

58:16

so it stuck straight up. Yep. Yeah. That beatles, like but yeah.

58:18

So Sam Piper is a British YouTube

58:20

personality, perhaps best known for

58:22

his street prank videos

58:24

centered around the theme of interacting with strangers.

58:26

In late

58:27

September twenty fourteen, he

58:29

came under criticism after he conducted a

58:31

supposed prank which involved

58:32

touching women without their consent. Do you remember those?

58:34

No. Sanpepper created his YouTube channel

58:36

official Sanpepper on September eighth

58:40

twenty ten. His first

58:41

video uploaded to the channel titled What Sam Pepper does when

58:42

he's bored, features Pepper playing with a

58:44

fun house effect on his camera and was

58:47

uploaded on October twenty I

58:49

remember that video. As of September twenty

58:52

fourteen, Peppa's most popular

58:54

videos were how to make out with

58:56

strangers, which was twenty thirteen. I

58:58

remember that video too. Mhmm. It was

59:00

just like, oh my god. And

59:01

then lift pranks where they would act like they

59:03

shit themselves in an

59:05

elevator. or they would do a fart spray in an elevator

59:07

just like terrorizing the British public. I don't

59:09

remember this

59:09

because I didn't think that was, like, fun. I

59:12

wanted, like, the group dynamic of when they were, like,

59:14

q t. So that's I don't

59:16

know. I just think when you, like, go

59:18

to pranks, it's like when you pretty much, like, just

59:20

lost. That's a very specific type of

59:21

person that watches prank videos and it's like Yeah.

59:24

Other so funny. Like, I don't wanna be around you.

59:26

Yeah. It's that type of person. And so I

59:28

used to

59:28

watch these just because I liked Sam.

59:32

when he was in that group. Yeah. And then he would I was like, I

59:34

guess, I'll watch this, and it I

59:36

don't think at the time

59:37

I realized

59:38

uncomfortable it made me --

59:41

Mhmm. -- like the making out with strangers and the slapping

59:43

girls butts with a fake

59:44

hand and all this shit. It was like, I

59:46

didn't know like you said earlier, I didn't know

59:48

there was a word that's like

59:51

harassment. Yeah. That's like sexual harassment.

59:53

And I didn't I was just like, oh,

59:55

that's kind of I

59:57

don't know. Mhmm. And so

59:59

I'm

59:59

glad that

1:00:01

this started, bitch, the age of,

1:00:03

like -- Yeah. --

1:00:05

YouTubers have got to be reeled in.

1:00:07

You bitches,

1:00:08

not everything is content. Mhmm.

1:00:10

It was wild, but people got

1:00:12

away with back then. That

1:00:14

is and I I feel like it trickled into vine where, like, for a

1:00:16

minute, there were, like, these pranks of where you,

1:00:18

like, grab someone's butt or, like, you

1:00:21

know, like, kiss them or something like that. And it's, like,

1:00:23

why are dudes so fucking stupid? Why is that

1:00:26

where your brain goes? I know that was funny to

1:00:28

you? Yeah. You're not

1:00:30

actually funny then.

1:00:30

Mhmm. It's just the shock value

1:00:34

of

1:00:34

it. On

1:00:36

September twenty first, YouTuber Lacey Green published

1:00:38

an open letter to pepper on her

1:00:40

Tumblr blog. A bolded section of

1:00:43

the letter reads, We

1:00:44

are deeply disturbed by this trend of him like slapping random girls

1:00:46

butts -- Yeah. -- and would like to

1:00:48

ask you, from one creator to

1:00:51

another, to please stop. Please

1:00:53

stop violating women and making them uncomfortable

1:00:55

on

1:00:55

the street for views. Please stop

1:00:58

physically restraining them and pressuring them to be

1:01:00

sexual when they are uncomfortable. please show some

1:01:02

respect for women's rights

1:01:02

to their own bodies while

1:01:04

it may seem like harmless fun, a simple

1:01:06

prank, or a social

1:01:08

experiment. these

1:01:09

videos encourage millions of young men

1:01:11

and women to see this violation

1:01:12

as a normal way to interact with women.

1:01:15

Period. Like, that's what as a teenager, I

1:01:17

was like, oh, I guess this is just the

1:01:19

dynamic. Like, this

1:01:21

weird. Anyway, this was a

1:01:23

big thing

1:01:25

because -- Yeah. like, someone finally

1:01:27

was holding him accountable, like calling him out, not everything that you

1:01:30

think of

1:01:30

should become

1:01:31

a YouTube video to

1:01:33

feed to your pre teen audience --

1:01:36

Yeah. -- wild. And the it

1:01:38

was signed, co signed by John Green,

1:01:40

Tyler O'Clay, Grace

1:01:42

That's crazy. Like, your farmer friends are just like, you're fucking weird,

1:01:44

dude. Well, it's like you have gone off the rails.

1:01:46

Yeah. Like, delete your account or

1:01:48

delete the video or say something. Like,

1:01:51

you can't doing this. And then it just kept getting worse.

1:01:53

Mhmm. There were sexual assault allegations

1:01:55

against him,

1:01:57

like minors. Yeah. The

1:01:59

one that

1:01:59

I remember is the killing his

1:02:02

best friend, prank.

1:02:02

Yep. So this

1:02:03

that fucked up. In November twenty fifteen,

1:02:05

Pepper uploaded a video entitled, killing best

1:02:08

friend, prank. The video features internet

1:02:10

personality Sam Goback and Kobe

1:02:12

Brock. In the videos, a mass pepper kids nap

1:02:14

Kidnaps Goback and Brock. The latter of

1:02:16

whom was in on the prank alongside Pepper.

1:02:18

who are parked at an unknown location, showing Go Back into the trunk of

1:02:20

the car with a bag of her head. Brock helps

1:02:22

pepper tie up Go Back and take him to a

1:02:24

rooftop where he is forced to watch Pepper,

1:02:28

quote unquote, shoot Brock. This is Sam and Colby, by the way.

1:02:30

Oh, shit. Yeah.

1:02:32

What? Oh my

1:02:33

god. Leaving.

1:02:34

Go back in tiers. The video caused a backlash on

1:02:36

social media also hitting media headlines. This

1:02:38

was like you have crossed

1:02:40

the line. Dude, for a

1:02:44

solid like ten minutes, five to ten minutes, this kid

1:02:46

legit thought that he watched his best

1:02:48

friend die. Like, not not

1:02:50

just like die, but like

1:02:52

get execute. Good edge. Yeah. Like,

1:02:54

I can only imagine, like, that would cause,

1:02:55

like, actual, like, PTSD. Yeah.

1:02:58

Yeah. Also,

1:03:00

like, for

1:03:00

you. How is that allowed to be on YouTube? I about YouTube guidelines

1:03:03

today. Yeah. That video would have been

1:03:05

flagged before it even went

1:03:07

up. I know. British

1:03:09

newspaper Metro compared the video to an ISIS style

1:03:12

execution. A subsequent online

1:03:14

petition to have pepper removed from Youtube gained over a hundred

1:03:16

thousand signatures. an interview with

1:03:18

Metro Pepper stated that the criticism towards the video

1:03:20

on itself was shocking

1:03:22

in the same interview. world do you live

1:03:25

in, dude? Yeah. In the same interview, Goldback

1:03:26

stated that the message of the video was about living

1:03:28

life to the fullest, not taking life for

1:03:30

granted and loving it because it's short.

1:03:32

Fuck god. You

1:03:34

guys. Once you watch someone,

1:03:36

like, get, like, executed by a shot to

1:03:38

the back of the head, you're like, life is

1:03:40

too short. Life is beautiful. Yeah. I'm

1:03:42

gonna take that class. I'm not a

1:03:44

marathon. In response to the ongoing criticism,

1:03:47

Pepper started to go fund a campaign

1:03:49

stating that he would delete his YouTube

1:03:51

channel. If one point five million was pledged

1:03:53

to him, all deleted if you pay me. And then the

1:03:55

campaign was removed shortly

1:03:56

afterwards along with the accompanying video that was

1:03:58

posted on his YouTube channel.

1:04:00

just like you lost your mind, dude. Yeah.

1:04:03

You lost your fucking mind.

1:04:05

I don't under I

1:04:08

I actually would like to see this kid be, like, studied by, like, a psychologist

1:04:10

to see what that did to you. Yeah. because

1:04:12

I also it falls into the thing of, you

1:04:14

know when Hawaii had that fake

1:04:17

like nuclear bomb, like sort

1:04:19

of alert that went out on everyone's text.

1:04:21

Oh. So a couple years ago, whole the

1:04:23

every citizen of Hawaii was, like, texted

1:04:25

immediately to, like, take cover. because, like,

1:04:27

a nuke was coming their way. And so, like, for

1:04:29

a solid, like, ten minutes, everyone

1:04:32

on Hawaii believes that they're a

1:04:34

fuck. And so, like, I've seen, like, people

1:04:36

posting TikTok about But, like and then

1:04:38

they followed up with, like, hey, this was, like,

1:04:40

an emergency system, like, went wrong, and

1:04:42

we accidentally sent out that text. I was,

1:04:44

like, can't you imagine if for a solid ten minutes, you

1:04:46

thought you were about to be, like, actually

1:04:48

nuked. Right. Like, what does that do

1:04:50

to you? Like, there's no way that

1:04:52

you can be good. Like, what is what

1:04:54

do these, like, fake, like, momentary, like, you're gonna die things due to you?

1:04:57

Yeah. Yeah. I radicalizes

1:04:59

you in some way or another. I mean, it

1:05:02

has to. I I

1:05:03

just like, what more

1:05:05

intrigues me is

1:05:07

the idea that the

1:05:09

whole time from planning

1:05:11

the video to filming it, to editing it,

1:05:13

to publishing it. Mhmm.

1:05:15

It never crosses mind. Yeah. Maybe this is a little too far.

1:05:17

Like, in

1:05:17

this video, it is disturbing. I

1:05:18

don't know if it's still up on the Internet somewhere.

1:05:20

I'm sure you could

1:05:21

find it somewhere. they,

1:05:24

like,

1:05:24

zoom in on his face crying.

1:05:26

Like, warning the loss of his it's like,

1:05:28

what

1:05:28

are we doing? And what

1:05:31

are we doing? Like, it

1:05:32

it's really, like, intense, like, crying. Like,

1:05:35

when you see those, like, really powerful images,

1:05:37

if someone just found out that, like, a

1:05:39

loved one died, it's, like, It's that. And it

1:05:41

was real. Yeah. Also, like, Sam and Colby

1:05:42

are so famous. I know Internet famous to

1:05:44

be part of that. Also, like,

1:05:48

I just for if I was the person that they pulled the prank on, I'd be like,

1:05:50

don't post that shit. Yeah. because I mean,

1:05:52

like, even if you're like even

1:05:54

if you're you're

1:05:56

putting suppressing the PTSD. The

1:05:58

video of me

1:05:59

wailing, like screaming, like, I think

1:06:02

my friend is I wouldn't let that shit go out.

1:06:04

Men don't have that quality filter though,

1:06:06

I feel like that's like anything

1:06:08

is content. Yeah. When you're

1:06:09

Sam Pepper, Sam, and Colby, and

1:06:12

fucking twenty fourteen, like, anything

1:06:14

is content. So they were

1:06:16

doing, like, fake shit pranks in the

1:06:18

elevator, like farting and

1:06:19

then blowing shit on the wall.

1:06:21

The next executing each

1:06:22

other on the roof. Let

1:06:25

me go from Ship

1:06:26

Brink's to Isis real

1:06:30

quick. So we do have

1:06:32

to talk about Dan and Phil. Mhmm.

1:06:35

Dan, Harman.

1:06:38

Dan

1:06:42

Howell and

1:06:44

Phil Lester, Phil Lester

1:06:46

uploaded his first video on

1:06:48

his channel amazing Phil in March two

1:06:52

thousand six. and

1:06:52

Dan on his Dan is on fire in

1:06:54

October two

1:06:55

thousand and nine. The same month, how will I

1:06:57

don't know why they I don't know their

1:06:59

last names enough to, like,

1:07:00

to The

1:07:01

same month, Dan uploaded his first YouTube video,

1:07:03

Dan and Filament in person and created their

1:07:05

first collaboration, a truth or dare

1:07:08

style q and a video, fill is not on

1:07:10

fire, on Lester's channel, which became a

1:07:12

ten part series with one installment

1:07:14

uploaded a year. Since then, Dan and Phil

1:07:15

have frequently appeared in

1:07:18

videos on others channels. And in twenty ten, Dan and Phil took part in the

1:07:20

live annual twenty four hour

1:07:22

Internet broadcast,

1:07:23

Stickade, a fundraiser

1:07:25

for charity UNICEF. Dan and Phil appeared in

1:07:27

Benjamin Cook's twelve part twenty twelve web series becoming

1:07:30

YouTube and was interviewed on the various topics that

1:07:32

he covered.

1:07:34

There was Dan

1:07:35

and Phil, Crafts,

1:07:36

additional videos

1:07:38

were

1:07:39

uploaded on April fool's day twenty sixteen,

1:07:42

twenty

1:07:43

seventeen. And

1:07:44

on June thirteenth twenty nineteen, Dan posted video on

1:07:46

his channel where he came

1:07:47

out as gay. And he talked about

1:07:49

his experiences growing up in

1:07:52

the nineties. Phil

1:07:52

came out by tweet the same day. At the end of June,

1:07:54

Phil also made it coming out video where he

1:07:56

went into more detail than in his tweet.

1:07:59

And

1:07:59

this was I wasn't

1:08:00

in the Dan and Phil fandom enough to really, like, speak

1:08:02

to this, but I was adjacent to it just because

1:08:05

I was on Tumblr -- Yeah. -- and forced

1:08:07

it down my fucking throat. it

1:08:10

was really sad how this happened.

1:08:12

It's like, I'm sure it was one of those.

1:08:14

They felt really pressured to come out because

1:08:16

people shipped

1:08:18

them and would make edits of

1:08:20

them and like all

1:08:21

the comments into their videos would be that. And

1:08:23

there were so many fan fictions

1:08:25

like every single fucking fan fiction website

1:08:27

was overloaded with all this shit.

1:08:30

It was just

1:08:31

a really unfortunate circumstance

1:08:32

where, like, being a

1:08:34

fan starts to

1:08:35

affect the creator in a negative way. And I

1:08:37

I feel

1:08:38

really bad for them. Bad

1:08:41

for them. Yeah. There's also a

1:08:43

couple more in the group that we

1:08:45

should just briefly touch on. Mhmm. There's

1:08:48

Jim Chapman

1:08:50

who graduated from my god. He he planned to have a

1:08:52

master's degree but decided not to continue in

1:08:54

order to pursue his online career. He

1:08:58

you know, he had his, like, first YouTube channel,

1:09:00

Jim boobah, Jim boobah. Jimmy

1:09:03

Jim boobah? Mhmm.

1:09:04

He

1:09:05

was part of the YouTube boy

1:09:07

band. he recently was the face of Hugo

1:09:09

Boss watching their movie. That's actually yeah.

1:09:11

He was a cutie. Oh, he's, like,

1:09:13

more I would say not model,

1:09:16

but, like, he looked he

1:09:18

was cute. Yeah. Chapman is influential through social media as of the fur July first twenty sixteen. He has

1:09:20

over two point five million

1:09:22

subscribers on his YouTube channel. He

1:09:26

has over one million subscribers to a second YouTube

1:09:28

channel and one point eight million followers on Twitter, etcetera, so forth. He, you

1:09:30

know, featured the crew, Marcus Butler, Alfie Days, and things like that.

1:09:35

And there's also Tanya Bur. Now him and Tanya were married

1:09:37

-- Yeah. -- for, like, five years,

1:09:39

and

1:09:39

then Tanya

1:09:42

cheated. Oh. They got it to force. Yeah.

1:09:44

And then Jim got married

1:09:46

very soon after that, and it

1:09:49

was this big fucking scandal. Because

1:09:51

people thought Jim cheated. Yeah. And,

1:09:53

like, he actually did his best

1:09:56

to preserve the public perception

1:09:57

of Tanya. Like, he

1:09:58

never really spoke negatively about her. Mhmm. And

1:09:59

then I think she

1:10:02

was the one

1:10:03

that revealed or no.

1:10:06

His new I don't know. It

1:10:08

was something, but it was just sort of unfortunate circumstance.

1:10:10

Damn. Because the Internet at the

1:10:11

end of the day I

1:10:14

feel like content creation is

1:10:16

about spreading joy

1:10:19

and teaching. Yep. when

1:10:21

it turns into this, you know, or it's like, oh, they

1:10:23

just used to be vloggers. And now it's like, I can cheat

1:10:26

it

1:10:26

on, then that's why then

1:10:29

there's the baby. Yes. And they dropped

1:10:31

the baby. So so there

1:10:34

are other British

1:10:35

YouTubers as well. KSI,

1:10:38

Faturo, slow mo guys,

1:10:41

stompy long head, Ali

1:10:43

a Yuggs cast, which

1:10:45

is super famous

1:10:47

Minecraft. the minecraft, syndicate,

1:10:48

and Rota

1:10:51

Shaw.

1:10:51

Mhmm. I was oh,

1:10:53

statue Joe is, like, how

1:10:54

do I know that? That's fucking Zabella's brother.

1:10:56

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

1:10:58

Okay. Yeah. I remember this. I'm gonna miss it so much. I'm literally gonna go

1:10:59

home and watch the RIChelle run. Do y'all

1:11:01

remember the RIChelle run? All

1:11:03

my Jack's Get Girls. I'm

1:11:07

gonna go home and watch it. I was just watching it prepping for this

1:11:09

episode, and they look

1:11:10

so young. Mhmm. I always forget

1:11:12

that. Like, as a twenty

1:11:15

I was just at a

1:11:17

and m with my siblings for a football game and

1:11:19

we did lose and it's fine. And I was

1:11:21

looking

1:11:21

around and I was like,

1:11:23

the seniors

1:11:25

the seniors I

1:11:26

remember thinking they were so old. When I

1:11:29

was a freshman, I was a sophomore in college, I

1:11:31

was, like, seeing there's so old the other

1:11:33

lives together. so cool. And I was

1:11:35

there, and I was like, yo, children. Yeah. They just turned twenty one -- Mhmm. -- babies. Yeah.

1:11:41

I have a friend who works at, like,

1:11:43

the USC Music Library, and I dropped them off. And I was

1:11:45

like, oh my god. These are actual fucking children. Yeah. Yeah. It's

1:11:47

it's that and I'm

1:11:50

thinking about when these people

1:11:52

were at their peak,

1:11:53

I guess, quote unquote, twenty fourteen, twenty

1:11:55

fifteen,

1:11:55

they couldn't have been older

1:11:57

than, like, twenty three -- Yeah.

1:11:59

-- before. That is insane. Not so

1:11:59

At their peak, no. They were

1:12:02

literally, like, nineteen twenty. because it

1:12:04

was literally the same age

1:12:05

as me. They were, like, twenty one

1:12:07

to, like, twenty three. So,

1:12:09

yeah. Yeah. So, I was thinking about a little bit younger than that. That is So, it's

1:12:11

insane to have that many well, I mean, I guess, you kind

1:12:14

of experienced that a little bit.

1:12:16

Mhmm.

1:12:16

And

1:12:19

then I went viral at twenty two. Yeah. Well, I

1:12:20

I started to I blew

1:12:22

up at twenty one. Wow,

1:12:24

dude. Yeah. No. Sorry.

1:12:26

Twenty. Oh my god. Yeah. I've been doing this for now. That's right.

1:12:28

You were still in college. Yeah. Dang. I'm still

1:12:30

in sorority when I first started. That's

1:12:34

crazy. Dude, yeah, being a content creator in college

1:12:36

was fucking crazy. That is. You

1:12:38

need

1:12:38

to be studied. That

1:12:39

was so weird. Like, getting

1:12:41

invited to like divine headquarters when I literally

1:12:44

had finals the next week. No.

1:12:46

It's insane. I felt weird. Yeah.

1:12:48

It's also like how

1:12:50

did you because

1:12:51

you didn't finish

1:12:52

college for a completely different reason. It

1:12:54

wasn't like, I'm gonna pursue this. It was

1:12:57

like, something

1:12:57

personal, but I feel like, what made you not

1:12:59

make that choice of, like,

1:13:00

I'm gonna pursue

1:13:02

this actually as my

1:13:04

career? Well, I

1:13:05

mean, I didn't assume that Vine was gonna die. So I thought Vine is literally they're as opposed

1:13:07

to YouTube where it's like that's why I resisted going

1:13:09

on YouTube for so long. It's because it that's

1:13:12

like filming

1:13:15

and

1:13:15

editing. Right. And that's, like, very labor intensive. Writing

1:13:17

a joke and filming for six

1:13:19

seconds is nothing. Right. So,

1:13:21

like, that was pretty manageable,

1:13:23

like, in college. you know

1:13:25

Was it also over I

1:13:27

mean, we've

1:13:27

talked about this before, but the cringiness of selling out? Yeah. Like, on Vine, I

1:13:29

never did any ads or

1:13:30

anything because everyone's, like, don't sell

1:13:34

out. And I, like, thought that there was, like, pride in that. There's

1:13:37

absolutely no no. The people who told you

1:13:39

not sell out are now working nine to fives.

1:13:41

Yeah. And I worked at nine to five

1:13:43

after Vinendon, and I don't regret selling out

1:13:45

now. Like, I -- Yeah. -- I don't wanna do that. I think that

1:13:47

that made it easy for you

1:13:49

then back then

1:13:52

of, like, that

1:13:52

was never really gonna be an

1:13:54

option to do that as a career because you decided that for yourself. And some people went the complete

1:13:57

opposite direction.

1:13:59

Mhmm. And It's

1:14:01

cringey now to look at.

1:14:04

I mean, people like peaks.

1:14:05

Yeah. Where are they now? I

1:14:07

genuinely don't know.

1:14:08

Wait. peaks.

1:14:11

They're like Rudy

1:14:12

Mancuso. I think they probably still

1:14:14

make

1:14:14

like, I'm gonna look at

1:14:18

Peaks' Instagram, Peaks' as? He two point one million followers

1:14:20

and

1:14:20

his last video

1:14:22

got oh, he's

1:14:25

he has

1:14:26

a pole dancing video. Actually, it had thirteen thousand likes two

1:14:28

million followers. I fell off. Yeah. I

1:14:30

would say just give up the

1:14:32

ruse. Alright. Yeah.

1:14:35

I think that that's you

1:14:37

know, pick your

1:14:37

poison -- Mhmm. -- is do you sell out and blow up and then fall

1:14:39

into irrelevancy or do you

1:14:41

not sell out and keep

1:14:44

your audience Yeah.

1:14:46

Loyal. It's it's sucks. My advice would be if you blow up and you feel like you only have, like, eight to

1:14:47

ten years online, invest as much as you

1:14:50

can in A401K in

1:14:52

retirement. Yeah.

1:14:55

And then let that shit acquire interest and then do the best you can. And then

1:14:57

when as soon as you get, like, out into the real

1:14:59

world, if you fall off on

1:15:01

social media, you have a

1:15:04

decent fucking chunk of

1:15:05

change. Yeah. A little nest

1:15:07

egg. has been

1:15:09

British YouTubers. We

1:15:12

miss them. Zolile,

1:15:13

if you're watching, we love you both. We

1:15:15

we both love you. Yeah. So much. Family's very cute. Yeah. And I'm

1:15:18

free to babysit

1:15:19

your kid. And

1:15:22

Britney is afraid of babies.

1:15:24

I'm gonna

1:15:25

teach your

1:15:28

kid Spanish. Her Yeah. Spanish

1:15:30

and curse words. He's

1:15:32

some fun slurs. Alright,

1:15:35

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1:15:37

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