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3:30

week, we have a

3:33

very perplexing missing persons case. A

3:36

young man out with friends for

3:38

a night out on the town. The

3:41

group goes to a bar. They're

3:44

having a great time. But

3:46

as it gets later and later into the

3:48

night, the friends start to head

3:50

home. The

3:53

young man stays at the bar alone. This

3:57

is where our mystery begins. Every

4:01

detail after this moment is in question.

4:05

We know some of his movements. He

4:08

interacts with a few people that he doesn't

4:10

know. But

4:12

the young man's motives and the

4:15

intentions of others around him are

4:18

in question. Where

4:20

did he go? How did he get

4:23

there? Where is

4:26

Kyle Fleishman? This is

4:29

True Crime Garage. Today

4:56

we go to Charlotte, North Carolina.

4:59

Charlotte is the most populous city

5:01

in the great state of North Carolina

5:04

and the county seat of

5:06

Mecklenburg County. The Charlotte-Mecklenburg

5:08

Police Department is the

5:10

point on this investigation.

5:13

They are encouraging anyone

5:16

with information to use the Crime

5:18

Stoppers tip line to submit that

5:20

information at 704-334-1600. The

5:26

population was 874,000 people

5:31

at the 2020 census, making

5:34

Charlotte the 15th most populous city

5:36

in the United States, the

5:38

7th most populous city in the South. And

5:41

the Charlotte metropolitan area has an

5:43

estimated population of almost 3 million

5:47

people as of last year.

5:50

All of that is to say that

5:52

this is a really big city. Charlotte

5:55

is an exciting city as well. There is

5:57

more than plenty to do there. Parts

6:00

of Charlotte are known for a

6:02

thriving nightlife. We will be honing

6:04

in on the city center uptown

6:07

area. Uptown is known

6:10

for the NASCAR Hall of Fame.

6:13

Today's case is a missing persons case.

6:15

It's been over 16 years gone

6:18

by since the disappearance of 24

6:20

year old Kyle Fleischman. Kyle

6:23

went missing in the small hours of

6:25

Friday morning, November 9th. He

6:27

was last seen at the Buckhead Saloon in uptown

6:30

Charlotte leaving on camera at approximately

6:33

2.20 AM. This

6:36

was back in 2007. To

6:38

this day, at the time of

6:40

this recording, Kyle has not

6:42

been in contact with any family or

6:45

friends since. He left

6:47

his debit card and coat at the bar. It

6:50

is believed that he was in possession

6:52

of little to no cash at all.

6:55

And the report is that Kyle did

6:57

not have any other credit cards. A

7:00

missing persons report was filed Friday the 9th at

7:02

10 PM with

7:05

the police. And we have

7:07

a description here for you of Kyle.

7:09

Height, six foot tall. He

7:12

was about 180 pounds. That's

7:14

a tall drink of water. Caucasian with

7:16

green eyes and brown hair. And

7:19

it looks like he most often wore his

7:21

hair short. He was

7:23

last seen wearing a black t-shirt, jeans

7:25

and black dress shoes. His

7:28

hair was gelled and probably looked a little

7:30

darker than his natural color.

7:33

So this is the description provided

7:36

that I have seen the most. And

7:38

I do want to point out here

7:40

that photos of Kyle at the Buckhead

7:42

Saloon where he was last seen

7:44

or known to have been, are

7:46

pretty readily available on the internet. And the

7:49

shirt that he is wearing

7:51

in those photos is not black.

7:54

So I don't know why this description is the

7:56

one that remains and is the most used

7:59

description. of him. It appears to be

8:01

a green shirt to me. In fact, the

8:03

photos, while quite blurry and not great. If

8:07

that is Kyle in those photos, to

8:10

the best that I can tell it is, he

8:12

appears to be standing by himself right up to

8:14

the bar with a bottle of beer, sitting

8:16

on the bar in front of him, and he occasionally

8:19

is checking his, what

8:21

looks to be a flip phone.

8:23

There is a $50,000 reward for

8:25

information regarding the whereabouts of Kyle

8:27

or what happened to him on

8:30

the night of his disappearance. So

8:33

some quick information before we dive

8:36

into the details here. I

8:38

want to lay out a few things

8:40

before we get into the muck and

8:42

the mire of that night because there's

8:44

a lot of movement that night. All

8:48

of it I see as questionable after

8:51

that 2.20 AM time marker. And

8:54

there has been a lot of speculation

8:56

regarding that movement or perceived movements of

8:59

Kyle's that night. So

9:01

to lay the foundation here captain after

9:03

taking in a comedy show, 24 year

9:06

old Kyle Fleishman and some friends

9:08

head out for drinks at the

9:10

Buckhead Saloon at 5th

9:12

and College Streets. Now

9:14

this bar has changed names

9:17

several times since then. Kyle

9:19

worked for a health care

9:21

recruiting agency. He was smart,

9:24

very outgoing. His parents,

9:26

Dick and Barbara moved Kyle and

9:28

his two siblings to Charlotte in

9:31

the year 2000 for

9:34

Dick's job with fidelity investments.

9:37

Kyle graduated from Charlotte Catholic

9:39

High School and later Elon

9:41

University. After college,

9:43

he moved into a South Charlotte

9:45

condo. His father says Kyle

9:47

was a social person who liked to go

9:50

out and have fun. He didn't

9:52

have a girlfriend at the time, but he had

9:54

a lot of friends. So Kyle goes out with

9:56

some friends to see a comedy show and

9:59

who does he go to see? Dane

10:01

Cook, probably one of the most

10:03

popular comedians around that time. One

10:05

key bit of information and a

10:07

key detail to this case is

10:11

the group chose to take a cab

10:13

that night and

10:15

Kyle parked his vehicle at

10:17

his friend's house. So

10:20

they all meet up at the friend's house, they

10:23

all hop in a cab together, and they

10:25

go off to the Dane Cook comedy show

10:27

in uptown Charlotte. And the

10:29

persons that Kyle is traveling with, this

10:31

is his best friend Dan or

10:34

Daniel. We

10:36

also have Dan's wife Christina. We

10:39

have good friend of Dan and

10:41

Kyle's Dom and Dom's girlfriend. So

10:44

we got a five-pack of people going out that night

10:46

for a comedy show. From my

10:48

understanding here, Captain, there was a lot

10:50

of celebration to be had

10:53

that night. So these are very close

10:55

individuals. Kyle and Dan are

10:57

very tight. It's Dan's wife and they're

11:00

also tight with Dom. I believe at

11:02

one time he was a roommate with

11:04

Dan and Kyle. The

11:06

celebration, it was somebody's birthday, somebody

11:09

else had got a new job. So within that

11:11

group of five there was a lot of excitement

11:14

to be had that night. They were all looking

11:16

forward to a very good night out. After

11:18

the show, they choose to walk

11:21

to a nearby bar. So this is

11:24

a place that none of them

11:26

were regulars at. In

11:29

fact, one person

11:31

in the group says that it was their

11:33

first time ever going there and

11:35

they weren't even sure if Kyle had

11:37

ever been to this bar before. This

11:39

is really just, hey, this is in

11:41

close proximity to where we already are.

11:43

This hustling, bustling area of excitement

11:46

of Charlotte. Let's go

11:48

to the comedy show and where should we go

11:50

next? We don't want to end

11:52

the night now. Oh, here's

11:55

this place right over here. So really

11:58

just going to a place that's nearby.

12:00

This is the Buckhead. head saloon. Heck

12:02

yeah. Can't stop. Won't stop at the

12:04

bucket saloon. Of course, they're having drinks

12:07

because of the celebration with the birthday

12:09

and the changing of careers, the

12:11

promotion. It sounds to me like they're, they

12:14

are doing shots. This isn't just, you know,

12:16

casually sipping on a beer and looking at

12:18

each other and chatting. This is

12:21

a night of excitement. We're doing shots.

12:23

We're having a great time. Well, this

12:25

case is fascinating to me because we

12:27

do have a lot of surveillance footage.

12:29

And one of the questions becomes how

12:31

intoxicated was Kyle during this

12:34

evening? Yes, that's a great question. Now,

12:36

what we do know is that we

12:38

have several people that

12:40

knew him well on record saying that,

12:42

yes, he was very likely drunk that

12:44

night, but what we're

12:46

going to see captain is friends are going to

12:48

start to leave and Kyle's going to choose to

12:50

stay. And the friends that

12:53

leave would go on to say he didn't

12:55

seem to be extremely intoxicated

12:57

when we left, which

13:00

makes the mystery all that more

13:03

confusing for his friends. Yeah, most definitely.

13:05

So he's out drinking. They've been drinking

13:07

for most of the night by this

13:09

time, but where we're going

13:12

to pick up here is his group

13:14

of friends. They begin heading home. So

13:16

this is all going to start around

13:18

midnight. Kyle chose to stay and he

13:20

was going to continue on

13:23

that night without them.

13:25

I know nobody wants to be a

13:27

party pooper, but don't leave your friends

13:29

behind, especially in an area that they

13:31

don't know. They're not familiar with, and

13:33

it's not close to their, their home.

13:35

Now we're getting close to closing time

13:37

for Buckhead Saloon. At some

13:39

point, Kyle is going to get up and

13:41

leave the bar. Now, like

13:44

the captain pointed out, we have some surveillance

13:46

footage. What we don't have is audio,

13:48

right? We don't have him telling anybody

13:51

or if he did say why he

13:53

was leaving that information

13:55

is not known, has not made its way

13:57

to the public because one

13:59

thing. that gets very confusing here

14:03

is it's a cold November

14:05

night. He gets up and leaves

14:08

and he leaves his debit

14:10

card or credit card with

14:12

the bartender and he leaves his jacket

14:14

there as well. So now

14:16

we're in the small hours of Friday November 9th 2007.

14:20

Approximately 12 15 12

14:22

30 a.m. this is when good friend Dan

14:24

closes out his bar tab he tells Kyle

14:26

that he and his wife are going home.

14:29

Kyle says that he's staying and that he

14:31

would call a cab later to get

14:34

over to Dan's to retrieve his

14:36

vehicle. Now at about 1 a.m.

14:38

to 2 15 a.m. and

14:41

I apologize for not being able to narrow that

14:43

down better for you but 1 a.m.

14:46

to about 2 15

14:48

a.m. Kyle chats and he's seen

14:51

dancing with a

14:53

young lady at the

14:55

bar. We do know from

14:57

an interview with Kyle's uncle

14:59

Stephen that

15:01

he says that there may

15:03

have been some words exchanged

15:05

or it's

15:07

his understanding captain that

15:09

maybe one of the guys there with

15:11

this young lady didn't didn't really appreciate

15:14

Kyle dancing with her. And we don't

15:16

have great details about this confrontation which

15:18

kind of bothers me because we have

15:20

surveillance footage so we should have some

15:22

kind of knowledge about what

15:25

happened and we we do

15:27

know or what we've been told is it

15:29

didn't get physical but I don't think the

15:31

confrontation was just between this girl's

15:34

boyfriend or whoever he

15:37

was in relationship to her but

15:39

it was also some of his friends so it's

15:42

you know like a group of guys coming up

15:44

to a guy going hey probably saying

15:46

why are you dancing with my

15:48

girlfriend you know or cuz you

15:50

weren't. Ladies like to dance and sometimes

15:52

the boyfriend don't like to dance

15:54

right but you know you're right

15:56

captain the report is that there were

15:59

four people in this group and I don't

16:01

have a breakdown of number of

16:03

males or females, but the vibe I was

16:05

getting from the report was that she might've

16:07

been the only, the only

16:09

lady in the group that the

16:11

rest of the group might've been a boyfriend,

16:15

husband, or somebody sweet on her and

16:18

one or two other guys. But to me,

16:20

this seems like a typical night out at

16:22

a bar and many bars,

16:24

there's little confrontations, but we don't

16:26

have any physical altercation.

16:29

So it could be nothing. It could be

16:32

a nothing burger. But the problem is Kyle

16:34

went missing that night and hasn't

16:36

been seen again. So it's something

16:38

that you have to put on

16:40

the radar. Yes, you're right. You

16:42

cannot dismiss this because it happens

16:44

in such short proximity to when

16:46

we last see Kyle and know

16:48

that he's perfectly fine.

16:52

So here's where we start to get a little detailed.

16:54

2 17 a.m. Is

16:56

the report where the female

16:59

that he was dancing with or seen dancing with

17:02

leaves the Buckhead saloon at

17:05

2 19. So two minutes

17:07

after she leaves Kyle's

17:09

device places a call

17:11

to his sister. So this is a

17:14

cell phone and

17:16

this call goes unanswered at

17:18

2 19. Then

17:21

shortly after placing this call. So

17:23

that's key too. I think here

17:25

he's making that call. All

17:27

reports say he's still in the bar at the

17:29

time when he makes that call. Why do I

17:31

think that's key? Because he's going to make a

17:34

whole bunch of other phone calls. But this one

17:36

is the only one that he's making

17:38

while he's still in the bar. And

17:40

the captain had a great thing that

17:42

he was telling me off microphone about

17:44

this call that I found intriguing. Normally

17:46

when we have a missing person case,

17:48

we have maybe some surveillance footage and

17:50

sometimes we have a call log and

17:52

you have to kind of piece these

17:54

together, but what's fascinating with Kyle's case

17:57

is this call that he makes to his sister,

17:59

Well, we have it

18:01

not only in a call log,

18:04

but we have it on surveillance

18:06

footage as well. So we can

18:08

actually see his actions and him

18:10

making the call in that

18:12

early, I think he said it was like 2-17. 2-19

18:16

AM. Yeah, okay, yeah. So what's

18:18

different about this compared to other missing

18:20

persons cases where we have a phone

18:23

attempting to connect with

18:26

other people? One

18:28

problem we run into in those cases

18:30

is not knowing who's making that action.

18:32

Here, as the captain's pointing out, we

18:35

have him on camera making

18:37

that call. We know that Kyle was

18:39

the one that made this call. The

18:41

call goes unanswered, and then Kyle is

18:43

seen on camera leaving the Buckhead Saloon.

18:46

And now we know that he does

18:49

leave his jacket and his

18:51

bank card behind. So 2007, I imagine this

18:53

is one of those busy bars. You

18:57

get youngsters or people have too much to

18:59

drink. They forget to pay their tab. So

19:01

what do you do? You collect a credit

19:03

card or a bank card when

19:05

somebody sits down and orders their

19:07

first round. I'm sure

19:10

there's a listener or two out there that

19:12

have left a bank card or a credit

19:14

card behind. I'm a little shocked though, given

19:16

the very chilly night

19:19

that they were experiencing that

19:22

something didn't tip him off as soon as he stepped out

19:24

into the cold of the night that he

19:26

had left his jacket behind. Because

19:29

that surveillance footage to me, he appears

19:31

to be wearing a T-shirt. Yeah, this

19:33

brings up a lot of questions for

19:36

me. I don't think I've ever left

19:38

a card, a debit card or a

19:40

credit card behind unless I

19:42

was pretty intoxicated. But we're not sitting

19:44

around wondering if he was intoxicated or

19:47

not. We know that he was. To

19:49

what level seems to be the debate.

19:51

But the general consensus is yes. He's

19:54

intoxicated by that point. He's already told his friend

19:56

he's taking a cab back to retrieve his car

19:58

at some point. point. But hold on a second.

20:00

I want to stay with this credit card. So

20:04

him leaving the credit card to

20:06

me, not that big of a deal. Cause he

20:08

was, he was drinking too much. And, and maybe

20:10

he just totally forgot the jacket seems a little

20:12

more important. Like you said, he goes out in

20:14

the cold weather and he's like, well, I,

20:17

he should have at that point when I left

20:20

my jacket behind. So that makes you question,

20:22

is he concerned about getting

20:24

out of there quickly after

20:27

this altercation? Or

20:29

some people think that he was trying to catch

20:31

up to one of the girls that left the

20:33

bar. Which would make sense because we know that

20:35

the girl did leave the bar, a young lady,

20:39

we should say. And then we do

20:41

know that a very short time after

20:43

Kyle, so as soon as he walks

20:45

out, there's a brief exchange of words

20:47

with several guys who were standing outside

20:49

with the female that he had danced

20:51

with earlier that The

20:53

report is that there was

20:56

some shouting that was going

20:58

on outside, but n but

21:00

again, it never gets to

21:02

any level of physical altercation.

21:05

These are just words at this point.

21:08

Well, and that makes me wonder too, because

21:10

let's say I'm a little intoxicated. I

21:13

was just dancing with this girl on the dance

21:15

floor. Some jackasses come up to

21:17

me and tell me who I can

21:19

and can't dance with, but

21:21

there's a bunch of them. So maybe

21:23

I just shut up. Now

21:26

I'm at the bar and I'm drinking, call

21:28

my sister. She doesn't answer the phone. But

21:30

then I started thinking to myself, why

21:32

did I shut up? Why did I shut up? Why

21:34

didn't I just give him a piece

21:37

of the captain's mind? So then I

21:39

decided to go outside to, to

21:42

razz it up a little bit, you know, nobody's

21:45

going to sass me, my friend. So

21:48

then I go outside, a couple of shouts come

21:50

back and forth, and then it gets broken up

21:52

again. And you can dance if you want to,

21:54

captain. But the

21:56

thing here is I think all of us

21:58

are, I should. say all

22:00

of us, but I bet you a good percentage

22:02

of us have found ourselves in a situation, I

22:04

know I have, I got a very, a face

22:07

that, a punchable face

22:10

as they say. I

22:12

found myself in a situation more than

22:14

once where a group of guys has,

22:16

they've decided that they're

22:19

going, they want, they're looking for a

22:21

fight and there's no, nothing that I

22:23

can say to deter that from happening,

22:26

right? I could, I could be defiant

22:28

and say, you guys, you guys suck, you're losers.

22:31

We're going to fight. Or I could go, I'm

22:33

sorry. My bad. You guys are

22:36

awesome. I, I don't want anything

22:38

to do with you. Can I buy you a drink? And they

22:40

still want to fight. So we

22:43

don't know. All we know is that there was

22:45

some shouting going on. We don't know how much

22:47

Kyle was involved in a back and forth, or

22:49

if it was simply, Oh, Hey, there's that, that

22:52

jerk again. Oh, he's outside again. This

22:55

part of the timeline is very weird

22:58

and strange to me. Right? Because I, I,

23:00

I look at the call to 19 to

23:03

his sister. Fast

23:05

forward to today. I

23:08

know that as of a couple

23:10

of years ago, his sister was

23:12

living in Charlotte in, in this

23:14

uptown area. Okay. What

23:16

I don't know is was she living there

23:19

at that time? Is

23:21

there a reason why he's calling his sister

23:23

at two 19? Does

23:25

he feel threatened? Does he feel like he's in

23:30

trouble and needs to get somewhere where

23:32

somebody knows him soon to a safe

23:34

place? Or

23:36

does he just want somebody to be

23:38

aware that, Hey,

23:40

I got him this altercation just in case

23:42

something happens. The other thing too, and I

23:44

know that we're, we're spinning our tires here

23:46

already, captain, but I'm telling you, speculate if

23:48

I want to speculate, you could dance if

23:50

you want to. But the thing

23:52

is, I also have to wonder, like,

23:56

you know, when, when, when some people start a

23:58

little beef with you and then. then it breaks

24:00

up and you just, you know, you go your,

24:02

your separate ways. You sit back down at the

24:04

bar, they're back in a corner somewhere, but

24:07

you still feel them like looking at you, looking

24:09

at you. Isn't it

24:12

kind of like naturally human behavior to pick

24:14

up your phone and maybe

24:16

I'll pretend I'm talking to somebody or looking at something

24:18

on my phone. So it looks like I'm not, I

24:20

don't, I want them to think I don't know that

24:22

they're looking at me. Yeah. Or possible.

24:24

He just wants to vent to somebody. True.

24:27

Hey, this, this shit happened and nobody was

24:29

here. I got to tell somebody.

24:31

Or could you come and get me? Right.

24:33

So anyway, that's a lot of questions though,

24:35

but, but see, that's what I'm saying is

24:38

that I feel like the actions to me

24:40

don't add up. Right.

24:42

If, if, if I'm calling for help or

24:44

want to get in touch with somebody cause

24:46

I feel threatened at two 19, I'm

24:49

probably not leaving the bar, considering

24:51

that they've just left the bar. And now I bump

24:53

into them. If you go outside because

24:55

you're like, I better get out of here, fight

24:58

or flight. I better fly. I'm

25:00

going to get out of here. Oh, I see them on the street.

25:03

If you're attempting to flee, then you want to go

25:06

back into the bar at this, this point, and you've

25:08

left your jacket and your bank card. So

25:11

many things in this case don't make sense.

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30:19

At 2.20 AM, Kyle is

30:21

seen on camera walking on

30:23

North college street at 2.22

30:25

to 2.45 AM,

30:29

approximately there's reports that

30:31

Kyle goes into a business called fuel

30:33

pizza. Okay. I

30:36

want to be clear here. There is

30:38

some debate if this actually happened. It

30:40

seems like most people believe that this

30:43

did happen. An employee

30:45

there says that he

30:47

saw Kyle come in and remembers

30:50

Kyle ordering two slices of pizza.

30:53

We get a little bit of a problem here

30:55

because we know that he doesn't have his debit

30:57

card or credit card with him. He's left that

31:00

at the bar. And what

31:02

we are told from his parents

31:04

when they do a check on their

31:07

son, phone records, financial

31:09

records, they don't

31:11

see him having in possessing

31:13

any other credit card or debit card.

31:16

So this is his only card for

31:18

paying for things. And

31:20

his friends will tell us

31:22

they don't remember Kyle being the

31:25

type of person to carry cash.

31:27

Right. So this is where

31:29

we say he either had little to no

31:31

cash on him at all because he may

31:33

not have had any cash, but

31:36

if he purchased the pizza,

31:39

he must have had some cash on him

31:41

that night to do so. Pizza shops are

31:43

not in the business to just go, Hey,

31:46

drunk guy, you don't have any money. Here's a

31:48

slice of pizza. True. But

31:51

I would say that at closing time

31:53

that we might be throwing these away.

31:55

Anyway, this guy comes stumbling and he's

31:58

starving. Oh, here take. this and

32:00

we'll see you later. I think I saw

32:02

one report where they thought maybe he had

32:04

roughly six bucks on him. Yeah.

32:06

So the reports that I've seen state

32:09

that he had $6 other reports say

32:11

he may have had $9 on him.

32:15

I don't know how they're getting to that very

32:17

exact amount, but

32:19

I think part of that they're

32:22

basing off of what, what

32:24

it said that he purchased at the pizza

32:26

shop and what it would have cost. Right.

32:29

Now his father, Kyle's

32:31

father believes as

32:33

do many other people that this

32:35

Kyle going into fuel pizza is

32:39

reality. And he says

32:41

based off of witness statements and

32:43

off of what the

32:45

employee says that Kyle ordered, he's

32:48

like, yeah, that's exactly the kind of pizza

32:50

that Kyle would order all the

32:53

time. That's another thing that's so

32:55

fascinating with this missing person case

32:57

is we don't have just

33:00

one piece of evidence. We have other

33:03

pieces of evidence that backup those

33:05

pieces of evidence. Like we have,

33:07

we roughly know the direction Kyle

33:09

went when he left the bar.

33:12

Then that's confirmed by other

33:15

surveillance footage. And

33:18

so then you go, well, he's headed in

33:20

the direction to the pizza shop. He goes

33:22

into the pizza shop. We have people at

33:24

the pizza shop claiming, well, we think that

33:27

this missing person, Kyle was in there that

33:30

night. And by the way, this

33:32

is what he ordered. And then the

33:34

family goes, yep, that, that was

33:36

him. He was a everything

33:39

on my pizza, Supreme pizza guy. Yeah.

33:42

And so the thing here is

33:44

what I like to call this

33:46

is this is very much to

33:48

me, like a collage of potential

33:51

evidence. Right. And movements of this

33:53

young man, but just

33:55

before he disappears. And

33:57

we all know how collages work. You, you. You

33:59

cut and paste and you pull things from from

34:01

all different sources and you put them together all

34:04

in one location and you step back and you

34:06

look at it. And sometimes it makes perfect sense

34:08

and other times it makes no sense at all.

34:11

So with some of this stuff, it seems to

34:13

be lining up. There

34:15

are people that are

34:17

connected with this fuel pizza that say we

34:19

never saw Kyle that night. One

34:22

key thing here though, is

34:24

the employee that says to have seen

34:26

Kyle that night, that

34:28

Kyle ordered two pieces of pizza and

34:31

then he must've gone to the restroom area

34:35

because this employee says I got busy

34:38

working and I lost track of him.

34:40

I don't remember seeing Kyle leave that

34:42

night. I remember him coming in getting

34:44

the pizza and then I don't see

34:46

him leave that night. Now

34:48

we're going to go to 2 42 AM. This

34:52

is when his phone places a

34:54

call to it. This

34:57

is reported this way. So forgive me.

34:59

It's reported. He places a call to

35:01

a business he went to earlier that

35:03

night and the call is unanswered.

35:05

There's been a lot of speculation about

35:08

this. I do not know why we

35:10

know all of the other places

35:12

and people that he attempted to call that night. The

35:16

parents, his parents and family have his

35:19

phone records. They've been shared with police,

35:22

which has been valuable to their

35:24

investigation. But

35:26

for some reason this line item, they

35:29

don't want to tell us the name of

35:31

the place. They just simply say he called a business

35:33

that he had went to earlier that night at 2

35:35

42 AM. There's

35:38

been great speculation that he probably called

35:40

the Buckhead saloon. Does he realize he

35:42

left his debit card? Yeah. Went to

35:44

pay for pizza. Oh snap. No

35:47

card. Oh, wait a second. It's frigid

35:49

out here. I don't have my coat

35:51

either. 2 30, the bar closes. He's

35:55

worried. He, he, he likely wants to make

35:57

contact with somebody. Hey, bartender, I left my

35:59

car. in my jacket,

36:01

I'm gonna walk right back to you. If

36:03

you could let me in, I'll leave a

36:05

nice tip and be on my way and

36:07

get my coat. But this is

36:10

also why it's sad to me because you just

36:14

wonder if he had no cash on him and

36:17

he orders the pizza and they go, sorry

36:19

man. And he realizes

36:22

sooner he doesn't have his debit card. If

36:24

he would have had to turn around to get

36:27

his debit card so he could buy the pizza,

36:29

would that alter the outcome of

36:31

Kyle's situation? Shortly after this unanswered call

36:33

to a business that he went to

36:36

earlier that night, Kyle places a

36:38

call to his own voicemail. Then between the minutes

36:40

of 2.42 a.m. and 2.57 a.m., Kyle's

36:45

device, again, we

36:47

wanna make sure we're saying it this way, right? Because

36:50

the only call we can confirm 100% that

36:53

he physically placed was

36:56

the one from the bar earlier where he's

36:58

on camera. These

37:00

other calls, he likely did place these

37:03

calls, but we can't say definitively that

37:05

it was him that made

37:07

these calls, just that calls came from his

37:09

phone. So between the minutes of 2.42 a.m. and

37:11

2.57 a.m., his

37:15

phone calls his father three

37:17

times. Kyle

37:20

called his dad's cell phone and

37:23

his dad's work number, so

37:26

business landline. Again,

37:29

this is why these cases

37:31

fascinate the shit enemy. Why

37:34

would he call his father's business?

37:37

Who knows his father's not gonna be there?

37:40

Right, burning the midnight oil at 2.57 a.m.

37:45

So Kyle's father explains this,

37:47

and it's actually terrifying to hear

37:49

Kyle's father explain this, because

37:52

he says that his

37:54

conversation with people that are dialed into

37:56

this sort of thing, that are in

37:58

law enforcement. and dialed into

38:01

this investigation. They've told

38:03

him that these

38:05

type of actions and

38:08

them happening so quickly and all

38:10

the calls going unanswered, their

38:13

fear is that by this point, he

38:16

already feels like he's in trouble.

38:19

And it could be, they've

38:21

seen this type of stuff when somebody's in a

38:23

vehicle that they don't wanna be in, that they're

38:25

being moved to a location that they don't

38:27

wanna go to, and they

38:29

can't put the phone up to their ear or

38:32

to their face because it's a

38:34

dead giveaway, but they can

38:36

hit buttons on their phone and attempt to call

38:38

people to raise the flag.

38:42

And so his father in

38:44

speculation says, it

38:46

could be as simple as in

38:48

his phone, there's a dad work,

38:51

dad phone, dad work,

38:53

dad cell phone, but- It's

38:55

the same contact with just

38:58

two numbers saved. So

39:00

unfortunately- He's just calling dad, but he

39:02

might not even have known that he's

39:04

calling dad work. And again, the call

39:06

place to the business that

39:10

he was at earlier that night or day, same

39:12

thing. He could just be hitting a redial

39:15

button in a

39:17

panic. So unfortunately,

39:19

none of these calls go answered,

39:21

which could have completely

39:25

altered the set of events

39:27

or whatever happened to Kyle afterwards.

39:29

So then at 3 a.m., his

39:31

device places yet another call to

39:33

his sister unanswered. At 3.28 a.m.,

39:36

Kyle's device places a call to

39:38

Dan. Okay, so this is

39:40

Dan, his buddy, good friend, where he

39:42

parked his car. These

39:44

calls are seconds long. This one's reported

39:46

to be four seconds long. This call's

39:49

unanswered as well. 3.29

39:52

a.m., Kyle's device places a call to Bruce.

39:55

This is one of his roommates at the time. The

39:58

call's five or six seconds long. No

40:00

answer 4

40:02

a.m. Kyle. So your device is

40:04

now seemingly dead or turned off

40:06

or destroyed by 4 a.m. It's

40:09

no longer pinging. It's no longer No

40:12

more activity from Kyle's cell

40:14

phone at 4 a.m. And

40:16

it seems like there was no activity between The

40:19

minutes of 3 30 a.m. And 4

40:22

a.m. Yeah, I would think as far as

40:24

law enforcement goes you could go well possibly

40:26

something has happened to Kyle by this point,

40:28

but I would Lean

40:31

more towards the idea. Well, this is probably

40:33

just when his phone Battery

40:37

is dead. Mm-hmm since that

40:39

night His cell phone

40:41

has been turned off. There's never been

40:44

any more activity on That

40:46

phone nor has there been any activity

40:48

on his bank accounts as well And

40:51

we do know that he left a debit card or

40:53

credit card and

40:56

his coat at the bar We

40:58

do know that he left his car parked at his

41:00

friend's home And it's believed

41:03

that at the time that he went missing

41:05

that he would have had on his person

41:08

t-shirt jeans dress shoes Black

41:11

leather wallet that he always carried and

41:13

his car keys his cell

41:16

phone car keys wallet those items have not

41:18

been found one thing

41:20

here that is Look

41:23

whatever happened to Kyle that night a

41:26

lot of bad luck again, if if

41:29

somebody would have been awake and could have answered

41:31

one of those calls it could have dramatically altered

41:33

the Outcome of that evening.

41:35

Well, I'm not gonna victim blame but look It's

41:39

not that it's not one's fault that they didn't

41:41

answer. They're probably not even awake. No, I totally

41:43

understand that what I'm saying is Kyle

41:46

was in a situation He

41:49

was in a location that he wasn't

41:51

super familiar with. Yeah, and he was

41:54

Intoxicated and and he was alone. Mm-hmm And

41:56

I think that is just not a

41:58

position that you want to be in. And

42:01

I think a lot of times, maybe

42:03

people assume because he's, he's a six

42:05

foot tall, he's, he's a man. He

42:08

can take care of himself, but anytime

42:11

you're by yourself, you're making yourself a

42:13

lot more vulnerable. One thing we should

42:16

probably address here, because there

42:18

will be persons out there that

42:20

say, well, maybe he just stepped

42:22

out. Maybe he took off, wanted

42:24

to start a whole new life

42:26

elsewhere. And

42:28

let's not completely close that door.

42:30

Let's, I like to think

42:32

of myself as an optimist. And so I don't

42:35

want to completely close that door. However,

42:39

the problem with that is

42:41

you talk to his family, friends, and

42:43

law enforcement. None of them seem to

42:45

think that that's a likely

42:47

possibility here. A lot of that has to do

42:49

with his close personal relationships

42:52

with his family and friends, his

42:55

personality. He's got a

42:58

career at this point. He's 24. He's

43:01

got a career, a condo, a car. There's

43:04

not a person in that group that says

43:06

this guy, he might've taken off. Maybe he's

43:08

living on a beach somewhere. Maybe he started

43:10

a whole new life. Again, this is like

43:13

the Shafer case. A lot of people think

43:15

that Brian Shafer decided that night when he

43:17

was heavily intoxicated to leave

43:20

town and start a new life. We

43:22

have no evidence that Kyle makes it

43:24

back to his apartment. We have no

43:26

evidence that he makes it back to

43:28

his car. Right. And that doesn't even

43:30

have his debit card. And while

43:32

all of that stuff is bad luck for him, the,

43:35

the, the one thing that is good

43:37

luck for the case,

43:39

for the investigation is

43:42

that he left his car at his friend's house.

43:45

Had that not happened, I don't know how

43:47

long it would have been before he would

43:49

have been reported as missing. Well, he didn't show

43:51

up to work the next day, right? Correct.

43:54

But people don't show up to work all the

43:56

time. Like so really what

43:58

sparks this whole thing. from into

44:01

a missing person's case and being

44:03

reported missing is his car still being at

44:06

his friend's house. Yeah, but that's

44:08

what's, again, I feel

44:10

like a broken record. That's what's so fascinating

44:12

with Kyle's case is now we have two

44:14

pieces of evidence. He doesn't show up for

44:16

work and all by the way, his car

44:18

is still at his friend's house. There's

44:23

always something that is confirming

44:25

the other thing. Does

44:27

that make any sense? And

44:29

Kyle's thing we have. Well, yeah, there

44:31

would be naturally there would be three

44:33

places for him to go. Okay. No

44:36

matter what adventure he goes on that night,

44:38

if he were alive and well, naturally

44:41

there would be three places that he would, one of

44:43

three places that he would go next. He

44:45

would go home. He would go get his car or

44:47

he would go to work. He would turn up at

44:50

one of those three places. He does none of those.

44:53

So what I'm pointing out here is

44:55

that car is what propels

44:57

this into attempting to

44:59

get police involved because the

45:01

friend is like, wait a second. Kyle,

45:04

he wakes up. He's like, Kyle never came and got

45:06

his car last night. I hope he's okay. Friend

45:09

goes off to work, has a

45:11

normal day, comes home. Kyle's car is still there.

45:14

So his buddy, Dan is like, he says

45:16

he knows somebody that Kyle works with and

45:18

he's concerned about his friend. He calls that person

45:21

that works with Kyle and says, look

45:23

man, I don't know what's going on. I

45:25

have an uneasy feeling. Kyle's car is still here. We

45:27

went out last night. We had a great time. And

45:30

I know he was drinking heavily. Did Kyle go to

45:32

work today? That person says no.

45:35

Kyle was absent. So

45:37

you're trying to call him on his cell phone. You're trying to

45:39

get in touch with him. The

45:42

friend then calls Kyle's roommate.

45:45

Did he ever come home? Is he just sleeping one off? No,

45:47

he never came home. So then

45:50

the friend has to do what he did not

45:52

want to do. He had to call Kyle's parents

45:54

and say, look, we all went out

45:56

last night. We came home. He

45:58

stayed behind. Now. we don't know where

46:00

the hell he is. And the

46:02

parents say, would you please call the police

46:05

and notify them that, that he is missing

46:07

at this time. So a lot of what

46:09

happens during this timeline that we know of

46:11

to me is, it's not

46:13

that strange. It's not strange

46:16

for somebody to be having a good time

46:18

and decide, well, you guys are

46:20

leaving, I'm going to stay behind. It's

46:23

not that strange to be flirtatious

46:26

with a girl or dance with a

46:28

girl. And then for that

46:30

to be a conflict, again,

46:32

no physical conflict. It's

46:34

not that strange to be intoxicated. So

46:37

you leave the bar and you forget your debit

46:39

card and you forget your coat. Not

46:41

that strange to me that you're going to

46:43

walk from that bar to find something to

46:45

eat, because I'm the type. Once I have a

46:48

couple drinks, give me that slice of pizza. Those

46:51

things I don't find super odd.

46:53

Right. The thing that I find

46:56

super odd, and I wish I had more information

46:59

on is the amount of phone

47:01

calls he was making. And

47:03

again, if you now told me that

47:06

this was 6pm at night

47:08

or 8pm at night, and he's

47:12

making all these calls to his friends and family,

47:15

not that strange. But to

47:17

make that many calls that

47:20

late at night, to me,

47:22

that's a big red flag. Exactly.

47:24

And that's what the experts were

47:26

telling his family that this

47:29

to them appear to be maybe he is

47:32

already in the company of

47:35

somebody that he doesn't trust. He feels threatened

47:37

or he's being moved somewhere that he doesn't

47:39

want to go. And this is just a,

47:41

an SOS,

47:44

trying to get help from anyone

47:47

to alert someone that, Hey,

47:49

something's going on here. And I might not be able

47:51

to put the phone to my face and talk, but

47:54

if somebody could pick up, maybe they could

47:56

hear me and this

47:58

person talking or. person talking

48:00

to me or hear that there

48:02

is actually something going on. We have the

48:05

really red flag and underline for those of

48:07

you out there that are not familiar with

48:09

this case. While each of

48:11

those movements on their own don't seem that

48:14

big of a mystery, truly

48:16

after everything after 220 a.m. when he

48:18

is last seen

48:21

on surveillance on

48:24

security camera footage at

48:26

220 a.m. walking in front of

48:28

the bar on North College Street, everything

48:31

beyond that, all those phone

48:33

calls, potentially going into

48:35

fuel pizza, those are all

48:37

items that are up for debate. We

48:40

can't say rock-solid 100% that that one or

48:42

any of those actions

48:47

actually took place. We

48:49

can say that the phone calls were made but

48:51

why? We don't know. We

48:53

can say that the phone calls were made but by

48:55

who? We can't say for certain that

48:57

it was Kyle although it seems most likely that it

48:59

would have been Kyle. Well we have proof of some

49:02

of the calls but not of the other calls and

49:05

then again it's like was there a purpose

49:07

for him to be calling his father's work

49:09

or did he

49:11

just not know that he was calling

49:13

his father's work and he was trying to call

49:15

his father's cell phone. This

49:18

is very strange and really

49:21

sad. So

49:33

much more to get to. What

49:36

a weird and fascinating case this is. Stick

49:38

around for part

49:40

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