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back everybody to another episode of Caravan of

1:29

Garbage where we're looking at the thing! Whoa!

1:49

Whoa! There's a couple of them. Well, there's

1:51

three. Okay, please leave a like on this video. And we'll

1:53

tell you which three they are. That's right. But

1:56

if you don't know dice. Nope. Oh,

1:58

all right. We'll tell you what three they are. I'm gonna tell ya.

2:00

You're gonna tell ya. So for this also I

2:02

watched the original. It's called The Thing from Another

2:04

World. It's based off a short novella. But we

2:07

don't talk about those here. Yuck. Not

2:09

even novellas. Well. Not even

2:12

a novelette. I make a nove- Not even a

2:14

short story. That's true. But I am currently picking

2:16

my way through it. I want to talk about it more next week. People

2:18

who can't see us obviously, James

2:20

made a gesture which I think he

2:22

thinks means looking through a book. But

2:24

it was more like doing

2:27

some sort of like cat's cradle knitting

2:29

thing with his hands. That's how I read. I

2:31

don't think you've picked up a book in your life. I don't need to. Not

2:34

when you've figured everything out. Alright.

2:37

I'm fascinated by like the metamorphous

2:39

kind of qualities and like the

2:41

origin of the thing. Uh huh.

2:44

Not that I want an explanation but I like just looking

2:46

at all the clues. I kinda want

2:48

an explanation. Sure. Well we can

2:50

get into that. We'll give it a whirl later. We'll

2:52

fix it. Yeah yeah we'll fix it. We'll solve the

2:54

mystery. Yeah that's right. So yeah the thing from the

2:56

other world, it's from the 50s. It's very

2:58

similar in structure to this. So

3:01

there's a ship discovered in the ice. They bring home

3:03

a monster. They light it on fire

3:05

a bunch. I was going to say all I

3:07

remember from that movie is a lot of stuff

3:09

gets lit on fire. Yeah there's one particular sequence

3:11

where the monster like crashes into the room and

3:13

they just throw kerosene on it. And

3:15

it's obviously like a real man. Yeah. It's

3:18

incredible. It was a real man. Yeah I mean

3:20

yes. So

3:23

in that unlike the original story it

3:25

doesn't imitate. It's like a big Frankenstein

3:27

kind of thing. Sure sure sure. And

3:29

so the movie. I think you'll

3:32

find it's not a big Frankenstein. No

3:34

because Frankenstein's monster could also be called

3:36

Frankenstein because he's technically the son of

3:38

Frankenstein. I never thought about

3:40

it like that. They're both Frankenstein's. Wow. Yeah.

3:43

And you're going to jail for being a pedantic

3:46

son of a bitch. I

3:49

called him Frankenstein all the time. I

3:52

call I call up I call the

3:54

doctor Frankenstein's dad. Why

3:56

just feel like it. You're allowed to do that I

3:59

guess. mucking around with the format.

4:01

Is this your legal case to get out of going

4:03

to jail? That's correct. I don't know if there's

4:05

any precedent for any of this. Well, come on. I've

4:07

got a family. I called his, I called the doctor

4:09

Frankenstein's dad. Come on, man. Come

4:11

on, man, your honor. So

4:15

the thing is, well, the thing is, the thing,

4:17

that's probably gonna happen a lot. Please pull me

4:19

up every time. Okay, folks, stuff that's gonna happen

4:21

a lot. We're gonna say that. And most of

4:23

this video is just gonna be us saying things

4:26

in the movie that we thought were cool. Absolutely. So

4:28

it's an original movie. I like it. I don't love

4:30

it. It's a lot of men standing around in a

4:32

room going being like, I'm pretty sure the thing's gonna

4:35

crash into this room. And then every now and then

4:37

he does. But how are we gonna spot it? Well,

4:39

it's really big and it looks like a Frankenstein. It's

4:41

a big Frankenstein man. So just every probably 20 or

4:43

so minutes, it goes, I just

4:45

like crashes into a room and they

4:47

throw kerosene on it or whatever. It's pretty

4:50

great. They get a different guy. Yeah. They

4:52

get the next guy in line and they

4:54

dump kerosene on him. Exactly. This

4:57

again, and I've seen it. I have

4:59

no idea how many times this

5:01

is the best movie ever made. It's

5:03

so good. Now it didn't do

5:05

well. No. Actually, is that

5:07

because was it up against some stiff competition? Okay. So

5:10

there's a number of reasons behind it. It

5:12

reviewed terribly. Sure. People were

5:14

like, the special effects are great, but it's gross.

5:17

Sure. Nothing like this had been made before.

5:19

Yeah. We'll talk about it. But Rob

5:21

Boutine, who put this together, like a lot of the concepts

5:23

and also brought them to life. It's amazing.

5:26

And people hated that. The other thing is

5:28

it came out the same week as Blade

5:30

Runner. They bombed together. That's right. And two weeks

5:32

earlier or something like that, ET came out. So

5:34

people were like, we love friendly aliens. Yeah. And

5:37

it's like, you're like friendly aliens. He's the worst thing that could

5:39

ever happen. That's right. This thing would

5:41

eat ET. Absolutely. Immediately.

5:46

So they turn into an ET, but a

5:48

real wrong one. Yeah. A real

5:50

crook ET. Something would burst out of its chest

5:52

or whatever, etc. Yeah, ET would try to heal

5:54

with its heart and the thing would just tear

5:56

through it. God, it'd be incredible, Mason. John Carpenter

5:58

also who directed this. of course, directed the original

6:01

Halloween here, of course, directed Ghosts of Mars. He

6:04

said it's his favorite movie. That's his Holy

6:06

Trinity, those three. That's right, yeah. And the

6:08

storytelling, this is incredible. And I don't think

6:10

it's necessarily intentional, but the writers have acknowledged

6:13

this, that like, yeah, it is like an

6:15

allegory for like the AIDS epidemic. You know,

6:17

you could be infected, but you don't necessarily

6:19

know, or you look fine

6:21

until you're not. Yeah, until a

6:23

big hole opens up in your chest and it

6:26

becomes teeth. Teeth, exactly. And it bites a

6:28

man's hands off. It bites a man's hands off.

6:30

I love the idea of this, that some people

6:32

believe, and people who made this movie, some of

6:34

the actors, like you don't even know whether you

6:36

are infected until like, I

6:38

don't know, like something triggers inside of

6:40

you. I think that's really interesting. Yeah,

6:42

yeah. And I think it's also interesting

6:44

for the idea of the thing where

6:46

the thing might have you running around

6:48

in a building, like chasing it, while

6:51

it's infected Wilford Brimley, and he's

6:53

quietly building a spaceship somewhere else.

6:55

So it's got kind of, there's

6:58

elements of like distraction and deception

7:01

to this, which might not even be

7:03

intentional, or they are that I love. Do

7:05

we know for sure, is

7:07

the thing a hive mind? Are

7:09

they separate entities? Do we, is

7:12

there ever been any confirmation from the filmmakers

7:14

or the actors or? It seems to have

7:16

like, I mean, it's obviously got a sense

7:18

of preservation, but they say in this, at

7:20

the very least of that, each cell

7:22

is like an individual kind of. Guy.

7:24

Guy, essentially. They're all different guys. But

7:27

do they have like a collective consciousness

7:29

and understanding? I don't know. I don't

7:31

really know. And because it also, like

7:34

some of the things it changes into

7:36

or semi changes into, clearly things it's

7:38

morphed into from other worlds as well.

7:40

Like alien guys. Yeah, it's got this whole

7:42

like genetic memory that it carries with us.

7:44

Yeah, it can be a dog guy or a

7:46

man guy. Could be a dog again. Could

7:48

be a Norwegian. Could be a Norwegian guy. Or

7:51

a way, you know. Could be a big chest

7:53

that opens up and bites your hand off

7:55

or whatever. The other thing

7:57

about this movie, great characters. A great

7:59

Keith. David, Wilford Brimley, T.K.

8:02

Carter, just rollerskating about. Kurt Russell, who I do want to

8:04

talk about. But what I like about this group... Oh, you

8:06

want to talk about the main guy? Yeah, I will. You

8:08

want to talk about the main guy in the movie? I

8:10

will. I mean, that being said though, you

8:12

know, he's the main guy, but there's plenty

8:14

of space for everybody else, you know? Totally. There

8:17

are scenes where he's just off doing the stuff. He's wearing a big

8:19

hat and he's off in the world. He's a

8:21

man so cool he can even look good in that

8:23

hat. Yeah. That stupid hat that he's

8:25

wearing the wrong way. He's wearing the wrong, right? Yeah. He's

8:28

wearing it sideways. Kurt Russell didn't even like it, but he's like,

8:30

no, I get it. It works for the character, but I hate

8:32

this hat. What I like about all

8:34

of these guys are they're very intelligent.

8:36

They're scientists for the most part and

8:38

they catch on immediately what is happening,

8:41

but they're kind of like, but we're

8:43

still fucked, you know? Sure. Like

8:45

they're not puzzling the whole thing out the entire time.

8:48

They're like, oh, it's like a shape-shifting creature from space

8:50

or whatever. All right. You can become a

8:52

bunch of different guys. Yeah. You

8:54

know? I think that's really cool.

8:56

Pretty smart, but I mean on the

8:58

scale of smart, Kurt Russell is

9:00

still the guy who is testing

9:04

the blood while holding it. Even

9:07

after it explodes, even after one of them

9:09

explodes, he's like, still hold on to what

9:11

I reckon. It worked out fine. Yeah,

9:13

it did fine. He's figuring it out, mate. So

9:15

there's a bit of backstory to all of them,

9:17

but the Kurt Russell character in particular, Macready. Oh,

9:19

you're going to talk about Macready? Yes. We're

9:22

going to talk about... We don't have to. I mean, I

9:24

can talk about it. You don't have to talk. Let's

9:26

see how this goes. You start by talking at me

9:28

and then maybe I'll interrupt. So

9:31

a normal video. Yeah. Okay.

9:34

So apparently he's a Vietnam vet and he's suffering from PTSD, which explains

9:36

a lot about him. He talks about how he's a light

9:38

sleeper. Like he's very easily kind of

9:40

spooked, but he's not... He hates playing chess

9:43

wizard or whatever. Well, that is like

9:45

a, that's an allegory for how

9:47

he wins in the end. Oh,

9:49

okay. All right. Because you know,

9:51

it's like he's in an impossible situation, so he

9:54

just flips the board. It's so... And

9:56

he'll destroy himself with it at the same time.

9:58

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I would

10:00

like to, you know, I would like

10:02

maybe a side call, another movie. Yeah.

10:05

Well, you'd like another movie. Well, you're gonna love next

10:08

week's episode. No, I want a movie. I

10:10

want a movie, which is the adventures of

10:12

the chess wizard delivery guy. Oh, yes. They

10:14

have to bring in another chess wizard. Yeah.

10:16

Or the voice of the woman who records

10:19

the voice lines for the chess wizard. That's

10:21

John Carpenter's wife, actually. Oh, Mrs. John Carpenter.

10:23

That's right. John S Carpenter.

10:25

That's right. Wow. But I

10:27

love that character. I love the way he takes

10:29

charge, but he's clearly very paranoid the entire time.

10:32

Like he's not giving anybody an inch. He shoots

10:34

a guy in this who's not the

10:36

thing. Yeah. He's a murderer. He's just

10:38

a murderer. And that's what you like about people and

10:40

they're murderers. I do like that. Yeah. I

10:42

do like the fact that he's the guy who's, he's that, you

10:44

know, he's that reluctant hero. He had to step up. He didn't

10:46

want to do this. No, he didn't want to do it. Yeah.

10:49

He'd rather be playing chess wizard. Well, he- Drinking.

10:52

Yeah, exactly. Until he destroyed his computer.

10:54

Yes. So here's some names that were put

10:56

up before Kurt Russell. He was

10:58

like the last person to be cast. They had

11:00

already started filming. So screenwriter Bill Lancaster, he wrote

11:02

it with Harrison Ford or Clint Eastwood in mind.

11:04

I could work. Both of which turned it down.

11:07

Nick Nolte was also the top choice who turned

11:09

it down. Yeah, I did that. Yeah, I did

11:11

the thing. What are you saying? I'm just- Look

11:13

at why he was the thing. Yeah. Is

11:15

it me? Bah. Or

11:18

is it Gary Busey? Where'd

11:21

you want him as a thing? He's talking to a mirror.

11:23

Are you Gary Busey? Get over

11:25

here. You got a bad attitude. Jeff

11:28

Bridges turned it down. I like that.

11:30

That's good too. Tom Berenger, Christopher Walken,

11:32

Scott Glenn, Roy Schneider, Chris Kristofferson, R.I.P.

11:35

Sam Shepard, Jack Thompson, Australia Zone. Bwip,

11:38

bwip, bwip, bwip. He was in Broken

11:40

Arrow. Bwip, bwip, bwip. Click Glass, bwip,

11:42

bwip. Tom Atkins and

11:44

Don Johnson. Okay, all

11:46

right. Of course, Kurt Russell had worked with

11:49

John Carpenter on Escape from New York. That's true.

11:51

Just prior to this, so- And he was also,

11:53

you know, he was on that note that Walt

11:56

Disney wrote. The last thing that Walt Disney ever

11:58

wrote, and this is true. other words,

12:00

Kurt Douglas. Kurt Russell. And

12:03

he scratched that out. Okay, sure. And then he

12:05

wrote. Michael Douglas. Michael Douglas.

12:07

And he went, hmm. Michael Keaton. And

12:09

he scratched that out. And he wrote

12:11

Michael Douglas again. And then he

12:13

wrote Kurt Russell. That's right. And people were like, what

12:16

did he mean? And when he said Michael Keaton, did

12:18

he mean the guy from Batman whose real name is

12:20

Michael Douglas? And then he had to change it because

12:22

Michael Douglas already was a guy. It's a Hollywood mystery.

12:24

Hollywood mystery, isn't it? But that is true. That is

12:26

the last thing that he wrote, which

12:29

is pretty strange. But he also, Kurt Russell

12:31

was like a child actor. So it makes sense that

12:33

there was- It was probably in a Disney movie about

12:35

a horse. Exactly. A

12:37

horse that lives on a farm and at the end you got to shoot the horse or

12:39

whatever. So Rob Botain did

12:42

most of the special effects for this. There are

12:44

a couple of exceptions. He was- He

12:46

didn't do the thing. He didn't do any of the

12:48

things. No, he did most of the thing, mate. Oh,

12:50

okay, right. What other special effects are there? Jess Wizard.

12:53

Jess Wizard. He was 22 when

12:55

he did this. God. He's

12:58

been mentioned on this video series before. He's been in

13:00

a bunch of stuff and then he sort of disappeared

13:02

a few years ago. I mean, he retired. I

13:04

don't think he disappeared. I think he fell into a well,

13:06

didn't he? Wow. He did the howling.

13:09

He did legend. He did the fog.

13:11

He did total recall. That's all

13:13

good. He did Robocop 2. That's right. God,

13:16

he's killing it. Anyway, so he burnt himself

13:18

out doing this because he slept at the

13:20

studio for like a year, putting this all

13:22

together. So at the end of this, he

13:24

ended up in hospital, suffering from exhaustion, double

13:26

pneumonia and a bleeding stomach ulcer. Double pneumonia.

13:28

Yeah, but the movie's really good. All

13:31

worth it. As far as I'm concerned, as someone

13:33

who suffered none of those, worth it.

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it off. They were probably

15:26

like, can we put you in a big weird suit and

15:28

you can be the thing? He's like, come on, guys.

15:30

Let me do special effects for a year instead.

15:33

We'll see if that works. It was his

15:35

idea that the thing is this

15:37

kind of ever-changing amorphous kind of creature

15:39

that has no true form. So he

15:42

brought that to John Carpenter. Because John Carpenter very much

15:44

didn't want to do like a man in a suit

15:46

kind of thing. Even though he liked

15:48

the film Alien, his criticism of that was that at the end

15:50

of the day, it's still a man in

15:52

a suit. And so the

15:55

idea behind the etymology of

15:57

this creature and the design, all

15:59

of that, is Rob Botain. But

16:02

Stan Winston stepped in to do, to help

16:04

with a couple of things. He's uncredited, but

16:06

he is kind of thanked at the end.

16:09

The dog face splitting in half. That's a

16:11

Stan Winston special. That's a good one. Skull

16:14

fucking falls off. Terrified. Who

16:17

did the man's head falls off the

16:19

operating table and then it grows spider

16:21

legs. Okay, let's talk about that. There's

16:24

a CPR sequence in this and you might remember this

16:26

Mason, but there's a moment. I just saw it. No,

16:28

listen, there's a moment, right, where the

16:30

guy goes to give the guy CPR and then his

16:32

stomach opens and then he bites the guy's arms off

16:35

to remember that. And then he goes, ah, and he's

16:37

like, and his blood spraying everywhere and he's running around.

16:39

And then a giant kind of head pops out of

16:41

like the middle of his body, but at the same

16:43

time. So two heads all of a sudden. Yeah, yeah.

16:45

But then his other head, like his rear head like

16:47

slops off the table and lands on the ground. Then

16:50

a tongue lashes around a chair and it dragged itself

16:52

along and then spider legs comes out and it crawls

16:54

and then they light it all on fire. Do you

16:56

remember that moment? Do remember that actually. Even if I

16:58

hadn't seen it earlier today to do this video, I

17:00

would still have remembered it from the previous time that

17:03

I saw this movie actually. Yeah, absolutely. It's not a

17:05

thing one easily forgets. That is true. But it is

17:07

a thing. Exactly. And it sequences like this, the reason

17:09

why people still remember this movie and it gained a

17:11

following over the decades. I mean, look, we could get

17:13

into specifically how they did a bunch of this stuff,

17:16

but what I find- Probably special effects. Yeah, special effects,

17:18

a lot of it for the most part. But

17:21

for the moment where their hands are bitten

17:23

off, they got a double amputee who lost

17:25

his arms in an industrial accident, put fake

17:27

arms on him. The bones are made of

17:29

wax and the rest is

17:31

made of like gelatin. Oh, and then they actually chomped

17:34

him. Then they actually chomped him. Yeah, and that's like

17:36

a hydraulic press chomping thing,

17:38

which is also how the guy lost

17:40

his arms in real life. And it

17:42

looks incredible, Mason. You know what

17:44

I like about this movie as well? What do you

17:47

like about it? Particular the thing, the

17:49

element, the thing, the creature in this. It

17:51

makes sense how it works, but they

17:54

don't explain it. There's just

17:56

enough law where if you added 80

17:58

more or less, you would- have

18:00

too many questions or it would tip

18:02

over into something else where it's like,

18:04

well, how does that work

18:06

and whatever? There is the perfect amount

18:08

of information that is given to you,

18:11

not even necessarily through exposition, but just

18:13

like watching it do things, which

18:15

I think is perfect. And again, like as we

18:17

talked about, there's a whole lot of questions here

18:19

that we don't know, like, is this a collective

18:22

consciousness? Are they all separate from each other? What

18:24

was it even trying to do? Was it just

18:26

a regular guy in a suit? What

18:28

do you think it was? We will have a sequel

18:30

or a prequel that reveal it was just

18:33

a regular, just a big tall, really pale

18:35

guy, a bald guy in a suit. And

18:37

it wasn't actually scary at all. I think

18:39

also like it's trying to survive and there's the

18:42

idea in this. That's very noble. Yeah, I

18:44

think so. There's the idea that, you know, if it

18:46

gets out that it's going to ruin the world, but

18:49

was it just trying to go home?

18:51

We don't really know. I like it

18:53

seems to have sinister motivations, but are

18:55

those survival instincts? Great point. It's

18:58

intelligent because it can mimic somebody perfectly, but like

19:00

to what extent? It's, I just find the whole

19:02

thing really fascinating and we'll delve into it more

19:04

next week, Mason. But we've got some things we

19:06

got to talk about here, Mason. We're not done

19:08

yet. I know you're getting up to leave.

19:11

I am. But don't do it, Mason.

19:13

I've said what I need to say about Frankenstein's

19:15

dad and so I can leave. That was good,

19:17

Mason. Anyway, you know what it's time for though?

19:20

What's it time for? It's time for Trivia Thing!

19:22

Yeah! This

19:24

is the trivia section of the show where we go. You

19:26

got some information for me, James? You got some facts? Oh,

19:29

James, you got some... I do actually, yes. Drew

19:31

Struzan's iconic poster for this. You know the one.

19:34

He's a Star Wars guy. He's a Star Wars

19:36

guy. out

19:38

of his head. The face or whatever. Maybe it's light. Yeah.

19:41

Maybe it's a light at the end of the tunnel. Maybe it's God. Maybe

19:44

it's the train coming out of his face. Maybe it's the famous train

19:46

face man from that's... Yep. From

19:48

what? From the scene. In the movie.

19:50

What's the train face, man? Yeah.

19:53

I don't know. It's not the movie. It's

19:56

just him. It's just Kurt Russell and Keith David

19:58

at the end. And they're like, oh, damn. we've defeated

20:00

the thing, now we have to fight the train face

20:02

man. You know what, Dan? Yeah, yeah, no, you're right.

20:04

And they go, here we go again. We're going again.

20:06

You know? Sorry you were

20:08

saying about this poster. No, I ran

20:10

out of steam. It's like

20:12

a train faced man. Whoa. So

20:15

yeah, John Carpenter though, even though this poster is

20:17

iconic, he hates that poster. Interesting. Well he did,

20:19

he said, it reduced the movie to the idea

20:21

of a man in a suit. Which

20:23

it isn't. No. But I- So

20:26

the train face man at the end. Exactly, that's good, that's a good moment. It's

20:29

kind of a spoiler too for the end, isn't it? It is a bit actually, isn't

20:31

it? We should spoil the ending, and we should have to give our own

20:33

thoughts on what we think is happening. Okay, sure, sure, sure. The

20:35

computer in this estimates that once the

20:37

organism reaches civilization, everyone will be wiped

20:39

out in 27,000 hours. So

20:43

that's apparently 1,125 days or three years in one month. Wow.

20:48

Plenty of time. It's 2.7 Malcolm Gladwells. Crooked

20:51

bloke, look it up. Mason,

20:55

he told me the economy is special but

20:57

it makes athletes or something, doesn't it? Yep.

21:00

Isn't that true? I mean, he's not wrong there. Baseball. Yep,

21:03

yep. You just gotta look at the numbers. I do.

21:06

It's what he taught me. Anyway,

21:10

how much time is that? Did you say? Three

21:12

years, one month. Okay, that's plenty of time.

21:14

We get stoned by then. Get your affairs

21:16

in order. Yeah, right? Yeah. You'd

21:18

still have to go to work. Oh yeah, you would, wouldn't

21:20

you? God, that's the most

21:22

unrealistic thing about most sci-fi movies. It's like all

21:24

aliens are invading and it's like, let's all band

21:26

together and we'll all form a rag tag militia

21:28

or whatever. No, you'd still have to go to

21:30

work. I wanna go to brunch. Yeah. Among

21:33

it all. Exactly. Who's gonna get me my

21:35

brunch food? The

21:37

aliens. Yeah, well, that's true, yeah. There was a

21:40

go motion sequence from this movie in the final

21:42

battle that was mostly removed. There's a little bit

21:44

in there. Explain what go motion is. It's like

21:46

stop motion, but it's a bit slicker. Okay. Like

21:49

a little, like Robocop style. Yeah, exactly. In 2009,

21:51

there's a little bit of go motion. Exactly. So

21:54

they did the whole sequence. They replicated the thin

21:56

creature at the end as it pops out, the

21:59

Wilfred Brimley one. they recreated the

22:01

whole set in miniature and John Carpenter

22:03

just went, nah. Anyway, here it is, it's

22:05

here, if you wanna have a look at it. Maybe

22:07

you enjoy it, but maybe you're gonna pull a John Carpenter

22:09

on it and just go, nah. Nah, I like it. I

22:11

think it wouldn't have been out of place in this movie.

22:13

Also, do you know about the alternate ending for this? No.

22:16

First of all, let's talk about the ending. So at the

22:18

end, Keith David and Kurt Russell.

22:20

Two guys left. There's two left. Probably not

22:22

the thing. No, we don't know. But maybe

22:24

they're the thing. Maybe they're both the thing.

22:26

They could be. Maybe at the end, maybe

22:29

it cuts and then they go, hang on,

22:31

are you the thing? I am, I'm also

22:33

the thing. I'm the thing. Thing bros. And

22:35

they mushed together. Yeah, that's right. So Keith

22:37

David rolls in and he's like, man, I

22:39

also had something happen to me. I

22:42

also defeated the thing probably in another room. Yeah,

22:44

you didn't say it that. And Kurt Russell had

22:47

just defeated the thing. Or so he thinks. They

22:50

sit down together. So he thinks. So

22:52

he thinks. And the idea is that they're just gonna die

22:54

in the snow and just kinda wait to see what happens.

22:56

Neither of them seem compelled to

22:58

leave because the safest thing to do

23:00

is to stay and keep an eye

23:03

on each other and make sure neither of them are the thing.

23:05

And the movie ends. I think

23:07

they're both blokes, but there are multiple theories.

23:09

There's theories that the Keith David character, he's

23:11

drinking. Well, I can't remember which way this

23:13

works, but it's actually like kerosene and it's

23:16

to one tricks the other. I think Kurt

23:18

Russell offers him a drink. And it's like,

23:20

in theory, some people have said,

23:22

oh, he's got kerosene in that. And if Keith David

23:24

would have drank that and not noticed, then he's the

23:26

thing. But you might, you'd put that

23:29

in the movie. I put that in the movie. I

23:31

reckon, yeah, exactly. There are sequels to this to kind

23:33

of confirm what happened here. But there is an alternate

23:35

ending that was filmed, but ultimately discarded because it didn't

23:37

test well, but neither did the original ending. So they

23:39

just went with the original one. Where Kurt Russell is

23:41

rescued and he's sitting in an office and he gets

23:43

a blood test. And the blood test says, you're not

23:45

the thing. And he goes, great. That's

23:48

sick as hell. I love that for me.

23:50

Because again, like you don't know if you're

23:52

the thing. Maybe he is. Maybe

23:54

they all are. And they're just, it's just a bunch

23:57

of things shooting each other, not realizing they're all the

23:59

thing. I have good news and bad news.

24:02

You're not the thing, but you're

24:04

pregnant. Ba-da-ba-ba-da-ba. Here we

24:06

go again. With the thing. With

24:09

the thing. And it's a bad sperm. That's right. So

24:13

the box office for this on a budget of $15 million, which

24:16

was a lot for a horror film, but it was

24:18

also in the era of, you

24:20

know, cause off the back of alien, they were looking

24:22

for kind of, you know, let's put a bit of

24:24

money into this. Yes. You know, so there's a few

24:26

of these got a pretty good run. So

24:29

with $15 million, it made 19.9 in the US and

24:32

some amount of money, the world over. Okay,

24:34

sure. So it probably didn't break

24:37

even initially. And again, it was not

24:39

well received at all. So Christian Nye-bye,

24:42

who was the director of the original,

24:44

the thing from another world, he didn't

24:46

like this version at all. It's the

24:48

Frankenstein guy, he said. Yeah. We

24:51

kerosene to man. Why didn't

24:53

you? He said, if you want blood,

24:55

go to the slaughterhouse. All in all, it's a

24:57

terrific commercial for J and B Scotch. So

25:00

there you go. And John Carpenter was like, that sucks.

25:02

I thought this was good. And it is John

25:04

Carpenter. Don't listen to this guy.

25:06

He doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about.

25:08

He made an inferior version of this concept. That's

25:10

right. To the one you did. Yeah, he's jelly.

25:13

Yeah, he's totes jelly. But not in a fun

25:15

way, like the thing. Just like

25:17

a man. Just like a man, man. So

25:20

to talk sequels for

25:22

this, the Sci-Fi channel, they plan to

25:24

make a four hour mini series in

25:27

2003. He said mini

25:29

series with such disdain there. Well, I'm thinking

25:31

about a 2003 Sci-Fi sequel mini series. Yeah,

25:36

yeah, yeah. Mason. No blood. No.

25:39

So it's set 23 years later, they

25:41

discover the frozen bodies of MacCready and Childs.

25:43

So which confirms that they were not the

25:45

things, I guess. Or they were. Or they

25:47

were, whatever. But there is also a direct

25:50

sequel comic. There's a bunch of comics, but the

25:52

direct sequel is the thing from

25:54

another world climate of fear. Okay. Which

25:56

came out in 1992. And

25:58

there has been kind of. And we'll talk

26:00

about this more next week, but there's been

26:02

talk of like, is this ever gonna get

26:04

a sequel? Maybe. Maybe a modern day sexy

26:06

reboot. Oh my God. Tick tock teens. Whoa.

26:09

How's that work? I don't know. Yeah.

26:12

Figure it out. Oh my God, the thing's coming. Well,

26:14

we never leave our houses. So it's probably not an

26:16

issue really. Can it get into our phones? No. It

26:19

can't do inorganic materials. But of course,

26:22

sure, it didn't get a sequel series, but it

26:24

did of course get a prequel in 2011. That's

26:27

right. Which we're gonna come back and talk about next week. I

26:30

haven't seen this since the theaters, and I'm very curious

26:32

to see how it holds up. Same, yeah. I remember

26:34

being all right. I remember being all right. It was

26:36

all right. It's a special effects thing that we will

26:38

get into, which is a whole controversy, but yeah. Can

26:40

we talk about the video game as well? Well, I

26:42

was gonna save that for next week. We can do

26:44

that now. No, let's do it next week. Let's do

26:46

it next week. Let's get out of here. Yeah, yeah.

26:49

Anyways, if you do wanna see that video earlier, you can actually

26:51

do so at BigSammowich.co. That's like our private Patreon where

26:53

videos always go up. There really been an addition

26:55

to that. We do movie commentaries. We do video

26:57

game let's plays. We do bonus podcasts. That's right.

26:59

We also have a podcast called The Weekly Planet

27:01

where we talk movies and comics and TV shows

27:03

that comes out there early on Sunday as opposed

27:05

to Monday. Of course, we are looking at the

27:07

thing movies. Oh yes. Is because we're coming up

27:09

on the spookiest time of year. And I'm not

27:11

just talking about tax time. It's the

27:13

Halloween season, Mason. That's correct. Is

27:16

that frightening? No. Okay.

27:18

Because you don't believe in like ghouls and shit. Yeah,

27:20

yeah, yeah. I mean, I believe in hooligans.

27:22

Yeah, okay. And sometimes hooligans around. I don't

27:24

like that. Yeah, they certainly are, yeah. Yeah, I

27:26

don't like that. And people should know that Ben

27:28

has returned to edit this video. Whoa.

27:31

Him and Lawrence are going week on week off. And

27:33

you know, it's Ben because look at this. Did

27:36

you see that amazing editing technique, Mason? Oh no.

27:38

What'd you think? I was probably pretty great. Wouldn't

27:40

shock me if he charged more for that, honestly.

27:42

And he should. If you're putting your own creative

27:44

spirit, I don't know. I didn't ask for it.

27:46

I mean, he needed a green screen to do

27:48

it. So you probably had to buy

27:50

that. I don't know if he bought it.

27:52

That's up to him. If he had a green screen and he chose to

27:54

do that, that's up to him. Did I get to crunch for

27:57

that thing that he did? No, he's crunchy. All right. Okay.

28:00

Anyways, thank you so much everybody for watching. Ben,

28:02

we're so happy that you came back. And welcome

28:04

back, Ben. And we'll see you all

28:06

in the next one. How bad were those Norwegians? Yeah,

28:09

well we're gonna- Terrible shots, I know. Learn to shoot

28:11

a dog. Or you learn to yell out the dogs

28:13

and alien. You know, that's

28:15

the language we all understand. Exactly. The international

28:18

language of that dog's an alien. Yeah. You

28:20

should shoot it too. Jurgen Blogan the dog's an

28:23

alien. Exactly. I get it. All right.

28:25

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