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Alright, you guys. This episode

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is really fun because I have been following

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Jessica. since I started the skinny

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confidential years ago,

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she has been so vulnerable

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and real with her own struggles on

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fab dining. and

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she's really worked and you've seen it

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on social media to find balance and

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body love. What's so cool about her

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is she's a practitioner. so she owned

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her own private practice as a nutritionist, and

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she really was able to see transformational impact

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and effect vitamins had firsthand on

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our clients. so

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she wanted to create her own.

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So she really started developing

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formulas that were targeting

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situations to common problems. I

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personally am a huge fan

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of her magnesium.

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I really like it at night to wind

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we'll get to that. She also is very

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much into the thyroid and I think that

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that is something that a lot of women don't

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talk about. I struggled with

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hypothyroid after Zaza, and

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I went to the hormone doctor and

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she told me, if I had literally starved

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myself and worked out every single day,

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I still would not be able

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to see weight loss because of the hypothyroid.

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So I was able to get that fixed. And what

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I love about Jessica is she's

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all about thyroid health, especially in

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women and we talk about that in this episode.

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launched the j s health blog in January

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two thousand twelve. She spoke about her struggles

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with body image and bad dieting In

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two thousand fifteen, Jessica published her

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first book The Healthy Life. She documented

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what she had learned in studies at university,

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and in two thousand seventeen, she launched her own

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eight week program, which teaches the un

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dieting approach. She now has

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a massive vitamin company.

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It is so popular. It's all over the

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Internet. And we're gonna talk

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all things, body health, vitamins.

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We're gonna talk about eating disorders, overcoming

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her struggles, and the thyroid.

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thyroid is one of my favorite topics.

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Make sure you remember we have a code for

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you at the end of this episode and a giveaway

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with J. S. Health. On that note,

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let's welcome the owner, the founder of

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J. S. Health vitamins, the J. S. Health

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app, and the J. S. Health eight week program

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to the Skinny Confidential Show.

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This is the skinny

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confidential, him and her. I

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am so happy that you came

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all the way out here. Where are you coming from?

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I'm coming from Spain, Paris,

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San Diego. San Diego is very

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true. out of you. Yeah. They're so proud of you.

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there. They really are. That's very nice. I think it depends

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what you ask, but I think they all

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are very positive. No. It's

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it's very true.

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So your accent is so unique.

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It's

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one of the most beautiful accents I've ever heard of.

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I wanna go back to to where you grew

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up because I know you've been everywhere. So

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start at the beginning. Okay. So I grew up

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in South Africa. Have you guys been?

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No. We're talking about to take the

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kids. We really wanted to go there, and it was,

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like, we had this trip that was getting all planned, and then

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the pandemic hit, and it derailed everything. And then we

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had staged events and were like

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Cape Town, and a safari, and Londalosi,

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it's called. the best. Okay. So you

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were born there. Born there. So we we really did

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immigrate because of the crime because it was just unsafe.

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Like, you know, what people say is true.

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I don't know specifically like you like,

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break it down for our audience if they're unfamiliar.

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Oh, you were you were born when there was a lot of crime

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there. They're just unsafe. Like, I my memories of

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getting home from schools, my mom circling

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around the neighborhood because there were boom gates, like

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like a gated community, and there

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would be security guards. And my mom would just circle

4:24

around, circle around until she like there was no one on

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the street and she felt safe enough to open the

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gate. That's really an alarms

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and like if you go to sleep at night, there is

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like a separate door to the bedrooms and that has

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to be locked if the alarm ever

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goes up, it's like really scary. I know. But you

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know, when you're growing up in it, it doesn't feel

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that way because in so many ways, it's also really

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idyllic. It's a really affordable

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place to live. We grew up

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living the healthy life actually. I had a

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holiday house on the beach. It's also

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a beautiful life, but it was comes at

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a cost. It sounds like it's almost it's

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it's it's like very beautiful and pretty,

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but then you're also having cortisol. Exactly.

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because so much color is on my mom. Yeah.

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We'll tell you that being a mom. Imagine

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now that you're a mom. Just like you can imagine.

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Yeah. Like a fact Was she just out of

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her mind. Yeah. Out of her mind. To the point my dad didn't

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wanna go, he had his own business. He had set up

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his career. But now, you

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know, thank god.

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Was there, like, an incident? Was there

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something that happened? Or was it just like something happened to someone

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else? Or what triggered the fight? Yes.

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We were so, like I mean, my grandfather, for

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example, got held up. place every

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month or every few months,

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but we did never. We never did have anything

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happen to us. Thank God. But, you know, all of

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the people

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we knew always had she just was hearing

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all the stories and obviously Close, close,

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you know, close relations or you

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just the crime just

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is so triggering and you can feel

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it in the energy. So when I've gone back to visit,

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I don't sleep. You know, it's just like it's

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the cortisol. It's literally just this

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feeling of safety. And it's sad because it is

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the most beautiful country and the most beautiful

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people and the most beautiful culture, like the

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soul you feel as you land.

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Like, it's in going with your kids, you

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need

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to go. It's the best. Are

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there a lot of animals there or is that, like,

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totally strange there are? Like, what

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can they not in, like, your backyard.

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But No. You mean back. Oh my gosh. When you're going so

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far, you'll see everything. Leopard, lions.

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We had a girl in the podcast tell us once

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that she was on afari. I don't know if it

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was there, and she fell off

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a zebra. And I'm just like, oh my

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god. I need yeah. I need to go

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I need to drink some more of that coffee drink. please.

6:25

I I know I I need

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to go What is the pink coffee drink?

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This is the the Lauren Bossier one

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I thought so. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So

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once you moved, What was life

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like that? Hard. Actually, harder because

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I was twelve thirteen. So just

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imagine a teenager ever

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everything going for me. You know, academically,

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I was performing socially. I

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was so set. I, like, had my best friends. I

6:46

had a boyfriend. and then all

6:48

of that got taken away from me. It was I was

6:50

excited because I knew it was gonna be an

6:52

amazing life and be as my cousins and it was

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also exciting, but don't think I realized

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just how traumatic it would be, immigrating

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it twelve or thirteen, the brink of teenagehood.

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And that's really when my relationship with

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food and my body started suffering. I was

7:05

actually really young the more I think about it. There was no

7:07

social media, but I discovered bad

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dieting at that point. I think as way

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to control this changing

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environment in my life, immigrating, having to

7:15

make new friends, having to find myself

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again at school, you know, academically, And

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I think latching onto bad diets was my

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way of controlling my environment

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and also controlling my weight. became

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this like obsession, again, a way

7:30

to control so

7:31

many changes in my life. And so

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immigration was tough. I think it was

7:36

just really difficult for me at the age of twelve or

7:38

thirteen. And I think it stayed stayed

7:40

with me for life,

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that sense of loss and Yeah.

7:45

It was traumatic. What was it

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like dealing with an eating disorder that young?

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So young, and I I don't think any of us

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really understood it for a couple of years, but I

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was really restrictive. And

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I always say like being, I was

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obsessed with being thin. And I

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just say that with honesty because that

8:02

was my truth. And I I twelve or

8:04

thirteen. That's young, you know. Yeah. And

8:06

my my the numbers on the scale

8:08

really did determine myself worth

8:10

a

8:10

hundred percent. And

8:12

this really went on for ten years until I studied

8:14

my Bachelor of Health in Nutrition, completely

8:16

governed by the number on the scale,

8:18

completely obsessed with fad

8:20

dieting, trying every single fad diet that

8:23

is in the world. And the problem

8:25

with all of that is that you just develop this

8:27

really sad and disconnected

8:29

relationship with food and yourself. You stop listening

8:31

to your own body. I was listening

8:33

to everyone else. And I really just

8:35

developed, disordered eating, really

8:37

negative body, dysmorphere, just

8:40

the the torturous cycle of fad

8:42

dieting, binge eating, overeating,

8:44

and then it all happens again. I've really

8:47

lonely too. Yeah. And none of my friends

8:49

were struggling. I've always been the one

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who struggles with things first. You

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know, a little bit like, and

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aries.

8:55

It's often the first to do things.

8:58

Oh, aries. We got an

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aries. I got a lot of struggles going liary

9:02

aries, but we are

9:03

we know we sometimes are, like, the the first

9:05

to do things a bit of the laters -- Oh.

9:07

-- in the astrology. Michael loves

9:09

that. versus Yeah. So I feel like, what just to

9:11

summarize, I had developed

9:13

a really disordered relationship with Rune

9:15

My Body. It was suffering. The number on this

9:17

scale was determining my self worth.

9:19

and this obsession with being thin

9:22

was absolutely taking over

9:24

my life. And I could not even think of

9:26

anything else. Then of course, assess of exercising on the

9:28

side. And really the sad part is

9:30

is that every single fat diet tells you

9:32

something different. So by the end of it, you're actually afraid

9:34

of all the foods because one bad diet

9:36

says, avoid carbs. The next one says avoid protein. The

9:38

next one says avoid fat. No have high fat. And

9:41

so by the end of it, I was just confused.

9:43

And I think

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people are still confused. it's still done.

9:45

And that's

9:45

literally why I started my career. Like, fifteen

9:48

years ago, Jay as help began

9:50

as literally just a blog with

9:52

my diary I was just saying surely

9:54

there's a better way to live a healthy life. I'm

9:56

feeling confused. I'm studying health and nutrition. Come

9:58

on, guys. There has to be a better way.

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to live a healthy life. And you know what the thing

10:02

is, through this time, I actually wasn't

10:04

controlling my weight very well. I was

10:06

yoyoing in my weight. My mental

10:08

health was suffering, my hair was falling out,

10:10

my sleep was bad, my mood was

10:12

bad. So how come how come these bad diets

10:14

aren't actually giving me the results that I'm

10:16

hoping for? and that's really what led me

10:18

on this journey and a pure passion

10:20

project to help women find freedom with

10:22

food in their bodies and really understand

10:24

that bad diets fail us. We do

10:26

not fail them. I can tell you now, like

10:28

anyone else out there who's feeling like they're

10:30

failing a diet, you you are not

10:32

failing. It's failing you and diet aren't

10:34

actually designed to be followed. The

10:36

brain doesn't like to follow the restriction

10:38

and deprivation associated with

10:40

dieting. and that began the Jay's health

10:42

community of just literally

10:45

preaching. There's a better way to live a healthy life

10:47

and take care of your body, and I promise you bad

10:49

diets don't have to be in the mix at all. But do

10:51

you remember the epiphany of when you

10:53

started to see

10:55

clearly through your eating disorder? Like was there a

10:57

moment that where you saw something on

10:59

TV and something clicked and changed in

11:01

your brain? Or was it like a slow build? It

11:03

was kind of slow, but also in my back during

11:05

my batch of health and nutrition,

11:08

I panic attacks in my

11:11

classes because I realized there's a bad

11:13

diet how I was trashing my body because when you're

11:15

learning about the power of nutrients, and

11:17

minerals through whole foods, which I had deprived

11:19

myself of. Like, I was petrified of

11:21

avocado, petrified of olive

11:23

oil, petrified of protein, petrified

11:25

of carbohydrates, and then you're in nutrition

11:27

school and you're learning the importance of these foods and

11:29

how they literally keep your body and your

11:31

brain functioning. I literally had

11:33

panic attacks. I was like, oh my gosh, I'm living

11:35

off Cans of diet

11:38

coke, cans of tuna,

11:40

artificial sweeteners, black coffee

11:42

with artificial sweeteners, you know, then

11:44

realizing, oh my gosh. This is raising my

11:46

cortisol levels. This is not supporting

11:48

my hormones. This is not supporting

11:50

my serotonin and melatonin

11:52

and dopamine. And I remember going up to my

11:54

lecturers at Union just saying, oh my god. Oh my god. This is

11:56

what I've been doing. Am I gonna be okay? Am I gonna

11:58

die? Literally just an epiphany

11:59

of I need to take care of my body and

12:02

so slowly and I do say that was

12:04

the slow thing that I would slowly add

12:06

the whole foods back to my diet. I was in

12:08

therapy on the side looking after

12:10

my relationship with food and my body in a

12:12

very vulnerable way. My mom is also a

12:14

therapist, so always encouraged us to be

12:16

in therapy. And so I was taking care of

12:18

the mental side as well as the physical side

12:20

with adding and back adding back in the whole

12:22

foods without too much fear.

12:25

But also then what happened is I noticed

12:27

how much better I felt.

12:29

I sleeping better. My hair wasn't falling

12:31

out. My weight started stabilizing.

12:33

Having whilst letting go of the fat

12:35

dieting and the restriction and the deprivation,

12:38

My weight actually was better than

12:40

ever because I wasn't restricting and depriving

12:42

myself and my cortisol levels probably were coming

12:44

down. Yeah.

12:44

Your mind was right too. My mind was

12:46

right. I was sleeping

12:47

better. My hormones were probably balancing

12:49

out after so many years of just

12:51

stressing them out. It's probably

12:53

like liberating relief. Totally.

12:56

when you look at all the different ways

12:58

that women are trying to lose weight now, let me

13:00

give you some examples. When I was in high

13:02

school and still now like Adderall, everyone

13:04

talks about Adderall for weight loss. not

13:06

talking about Adderall for ADD, talking

13:08

about Adderall for weight loss, and

13:10

also this new thing I'm sure you've heard

13:12

about this, this diabetes drug that people

13:14

are trying. Yeah. Metformin. Metformin.

13:16

I don't know what you guys call it here. Ozampin.

13:19

Like, they're the same thing. Okay. So when you

13:21

hear all these, like, stream ways that

13:23

women are trying to lose weight, everything you've

13:25

gone through and like where you are now.

13:27

What what is your advice with

13:29

that? By short term. So you will see

13:31

results short term. will. You'll see them.

13:33

You'll see results for three months, maybe

13:35

six months. But literally, in the fifteen

13:37

years that I've been doing this, I haven't I'm

13:39

yet to see someone who's been able

13:41

to maintain the results on

13:43

any short term diet

13:45

or medication. This

13:45

is the problem though because most people and I

13:47

hate to say it as like in what I tried to and everybody

13:49

that listens to the show is, like, most people, unfortunately,

13:51

are short term thinkers. And they're, like, okay, I'm getting the

13:53

results right

13:54

now. Yeah. Literally, as a former fad

13:56

dieta, I can tell you how bloody tempting it

13:58

is. I used to sit and

14:00

say I will do anything. I will try

14:02

anything. I will take anything. I even talk the weight

14:04

loss medications. I would laxatives everything

14:06

I could get my hands on to get to be

14:08

thin because being thin was my absolute

14:11

end goal in life and that's it. That the end of

14:13

story and that was my only the only

14:15

thing my brain cared for They are

14:17

that you will see results with some of them, but

14:19

as I say, it's short term. And unfortunately, the

14:22

body just doesn't like to

14:24

sustain it. It fights it, it rebels

14:26

against it. It's not natural. And it's not natural.

14:28

And unfortunately, also, firstly,

14:30

from a diet perspective, you know, being on

14:32

these bad diets, after

14:34

about six months from my time in

14:36

this industry, people will just

14:38

go back to their old ways after about their three to

14:40

six month mark. And in terms of

14:42

medications, the results are just short term. And

14:44

so sometimes, unfortunately, they

14:47

short term and then they have a more long term

14:50

negative effect. So people actually example

14:52

of People actually if they're taking those

14:54

big those weight loss medications or

14:56

caffeine or at

14:58

a roll stresses their body out,

15:00

probably does raise their cortisol levels and might

15:02

affect their hormones, and it might put

15:04

their body into stress response.

15:07

And then after stopping the medication actually

15:09

can be harder to control their weight. Well,

15:11

here's

15:11

the other thing too. Like, I'm in my mid thirties now.

15:13

And not you know, when you get into twenty

15:15

five, thirty, like, that's when you go to I I think

15:17

you gotta start really kind of like watch what you're doing, what you're

15:20

eating, how you're treating your body. And I think a lot of

15:22

young people. And I'm calling out young people

15:24

specifically just because they

15:25

they haven't got to the point yet where their body starts to

15:28

just kinda, like, stabilize the world that will be in their

15:30

adult life and they're doing all these detrimental things to the

15:32

young age. And when you become twenty five

15:34

thirty thirty five, it is so

15:36

fucking hard to recover. And then you have a full life

15:38

ahead of you, where you're gonna have to deal with even worse

15:40

problems. Yeah.

15:40

I think it I think it has an actual

15:42

long term damage. on the body on your -- Sure. --

15:44

nervous system, on your brain,

15:47

on your the way that you hold

15:49

onto that. Honestly, on your

15:51

metabolism, I think diets, and I think there's some really good

15:53

research to support this now and how it affects your

15:55

thyroid, which is your mask of metabolism.

15:57

And you and I both have a thyroid disorder

16:00

I have Hashimoto's, which is with the antibodies

16:02

associated. I remember last time I asked you to get your

16:04

blood results. Maybe you can get them for me. I need

16:06

to get them prepared because I wanna see you have

16:08

antibodies. because people it's it's gonna be the

16:10

next on the rising because people are being diagnosed

16:12

with thyroid disorder or disease,

16:14

like just hypothyroidism, but it's

16:16

get we need to go deep because a lot of

16:18

people are struggling with the antibodies, which

16:20

causes inflammation in the body. And that is the

16:22

first thing to address, not just the

16:24

thyroid with thyroid medication, but actually

16:26

the antibodies. wait. So if I

16:28

have antibodies from

16:30

my thyroid condition --

16:32

Yes. --

16:32

then that means that I have to address

16:34

the antibodies first before the

16:37

thyroid. Yeah. And taking medication will support things.

16:39

because

16:39

you gotta get the information down is what you're saying

16:40

first. Taking medication is important because you need to

16:43

basically replace that t which is the thyroxide

16:45

that converts into t three, that then

16:47

converts into the hormones that help your

16:49

metabolism. But on the other side, people

16:51

can still not feel

16:53

as good as they should with the antibodies

16:56

rising. And so they're ways to reduce those

16:58

antibodies. So you sort of want to look up to them both

17:00

at the same time. So you want to look up to the

17:02

thyroid hormones with the thyroid sign which you

17:04

take and then taking care of the

17:06

antibodies. But you might not have any

17:08

antibodies. But if what are the ways to

17:10

help get you want to get rid of them? But

17:12

I'm seeing so many people diagnosed with

17:14

thyroid disease. My sister just got

17:16

diagnosed with it, and we got her blood tested, and

17:18

she had Hashimoto's. I'm just seeing a lot of

17:20

thyroid disease but

17:22

more so associated with Hashimoto's.

17:23

What do you think so if you're seeing

17:25

all these thyroid issues, what do you think the correlation?

17:27

Like, why do people have so many thyroid issues?

17:29

I actually I'm so my obsession so

17:31

funny because I've obviously loved and followed Lauren forever, and

17:33

I've been obsessed with cortisol the same way

17:35

that you have. I actually believe stress

17:38

is really causing a lot of these

17:40

issues, and I'm there's no signs to back me up

17:42

here. It's my in I'm a very intuitive. I

17:44

used to call myself an intuitive nutritionist, an

17:46

intuitive practitioner. I

17:48

feel things and I feel the world is in a very stressed out

17:50

state. It's really hard to have your

17:52

nervous system come to a place of

17:55

calm. Like, what do we

17:55

have to do to get us feeling calm in this world?

17:58

Like, it's a lot. Like I said to people, I have this

17:59

really strict morning and nighttime routine, which we can talk

18:02

about -- Yes. -- to calm down my

18:04

nervous system. But it what I'm what I like saying people is like, that's

18:06

hard, bloody work. You know? Like, I have

18:08

to switch my phone off by eight

18:10

PM. I have to have my some salt

18:12

bath. I have to put my eye mask on. I have to make

18:14

sure I do not check my phone or emails after a

18:16

certain time. Like, all these things you have to do to calm down your

18:18

nervous system in the world we're living in. It's

18:20

a lot. Let me let me ask you this though.

18:20

So I because I think about this stuff a lot. So I

18:23

I agree with you that everybody's running around way

18:25

more stressed out than they they need

18:27

to be. But I where where I put back in

18:29

critique with this argument

18:31

is, it's not to

18:32

me, the world is not anymore

18:34

stressful now than it's been in the past. I mean, like, there

18:36

has been famine, there's been war, there's --

18:39

Exactly. -- and maybe it's perceived

18:41

stress. That's what so that's what I'm asking. Yes. You

18:43

know, like, there's Mental stress. the world and, you know, there's book

18:45

called factfulness. It has gotten actually

18:47

better over time and more, you know,

18:49

you'd you'd live longer, healthier, and

18:51

more resource, all these things. but

18:53

I think Maybe the stress is way more

18:55

out of control than what that correlation

18:58

is. No. I actually agree with that.

18:59

I think it's just different stress. I think

19:02

social media comparison. The world we're

19:04

living in for some reason feels harder. Like

19:06

even when I grew up and I know I would have

19:08

been young and naive. But do you feel like

19:11

when you guys grew up on a personal age, do you feel the world

19:13

was a bit of an easier place?

19:15

I feel

19:15

like it was a maybe an easier place

19:17

because you weren't So the world has gotten well,

19:20

it's very big. It's gotten very small

19:22

because everybody can see everything real quick

19:24

in real time. And so I think when you take burden

19:26

on and you're looking at everything that everyone else

19:28

is doing and what the world like, you know, something

19:30

would happen on the other side of the world and you might not know about that.

19:32

I think it's it's It's called overconnection.

19:34

Yes. And that is stressing

19:35

out our nervous systems. I think we're living in

19:37

a I mean, we can see it in the stats, mental health,

19:40

depression, anxiety, PTSD OCD.

19:44

My therapist is one of the head, you

19:46

know, she's a specialist in OCD at

19:48

the moment. And not in at the moment, she's specialist

19:50

in OCD. And she has

19:52

never seen, never seen people struggle.

19:54

That's the thing I think it is.

19:57

think

19:57

when you're staring at a device

19:59

and there's no

19:59

human connection and you're looking what

20:02

everyone else is doing and you're

20:04

focusing on comparing your

20:06

life to everyone else is doing and you don't have

20:08

boundaries around the device,

20:10

it's gonna suck you you doubt. It's not

20:11

just the device. And thousand

20:14

eighteen, Lauren and I made it just we stopped. We don't have

20:16

cable in the house anymore, and we don't even have a news

20:18

channel. So, you know, like, we'll see

20:20

things online, but I think they're also, like, we're

20:22

living in a time now where these channels are,

20:24

like, constantly fear mongering. Right? And

20:26

people are watching it all day long. And when you

20:28

disconnect from it and you you it's like, I talk

20:30

to people you know, like my dad or his parents

20:32

older guys that are still watching all this stuff. During the

20:34

pandemic, we didn't watch the news. They think the

20:36

world is, like, ending. And like, hey, I should have just

20:38

been living in the fundamentals. Well, you can't do

20:40

that. You're like, don't know what you're

20:42

unaware like you're But I

20:42

actually can to protect my peace. I am a big fan

20:44

of protecting my peace. And I think with the that

20:47

when I start of not looking at my phone two hours in the morning.

20:49

I'm not going to rush my phone. It's

20:52

just my life. I'm literally that

20:54

those are my two things. Did

20:56

not wake up to scrolling on your phone and

20:58

did not go to bed, scrolling on your phone. telling

21:00

people are falling asleep with their phones near their head

21:03

because they're scrolling and they're falling

21:05

asleep full asleep while they're scrolling. I met three people this week

21:08

in my personal life who told me that

21:10

they the full asleep was while

21:12

scrolling. but also the effects on your relationships

21:14

and the importance of your sleep, the

21:16

deep sleep. Like, you can say, as an nutritious, like,

21:18

sleep safe, sleep, but eight hours of

21:20

sleep, deep restorative sleep. And back

21:22

to why I think thyroid diseases on the rise,

21:24

it's not just, it's stress, it's

21:27

cortisol, it's nervous system, could be

21:29

hormones. cortisol has a

21:31

huge impact on all about hormones,

21:33

estrogen progesterone. But I think that

21:35

feeling of unsafe and that feeling of fear

21:37

is feeling intense at the moment in the

21:39

world, of course, after the pandemic, could

21:41

also be our food. People are not getting

21:43

those essential minerals like iodine,

21:46

salenium zinc. These are minerals that

21:48

literally keep our thyroid going

21:50

and performing and our food can

21:52

be lacking in these minerals. I know in Australia, I

21:54

used to do in my private practice, there's just so many

21:57

tests, blood tests, and I can't even

21:59

tell that's how I came up with hair and energy. I

22:01

can't even tell you low

22:03

people's iodine and zinc and selenium levels were,

22:05

and these are the three minerals that are critical

22:08

for your thyroid to perform. It's

22:09

also, you know, you were talking about

22:11

you know, living in places where there's real danger. Right?

22:13

And there's and there's a lot of play. Like, I think sometimes people

22:15

in the especially in the US, they take for granted how

22:17

safe a lot of I mean, maybe not now. There's a lot of places

22:19

that are not, but other parts of the

22:21

world, there's danger and it's abundant. It's always and

22:24

we live in this country here where you have this kind

22:26

of false sense of security. You've had that

22:28

a false sense of Everything's comfortable. Everything's convenient. You

22:30

feel like nothing bad can happen. I think with

22:32

the pandemic, it kinda stripped a lot of that away.

22:34

And people, like, wait a minute. I'm not

22:36

as safe as I thought as long as I'm stressed about everything. It's

22:38

like, no, it's always wind this way. Yeah. I

22:40

think

22:40

your I think our nervous systems are not

22:43

responding the same way. there's

22:45

just so much fear in built,

22:47

in myself, in people that I meet. Like,

22:49

there just there's this extra sense of

22:51

fear attached to everything, which I think

22:53

rattles on the nervous system. which affects our cortisol levels, which

22:55

then affects estrogen progesterone and

22:57

thyroid hormones. Like we know now, there's some

22:59

science to show the link between cortisol

23:01

and thyroid hormone. So that just shows

23:03

how cortisol, which is our stress hormone, which is

23:06

linked to our nervous system, how it

23:08

affects so many different aspects it

23:10

can affect our blood sugar levels, which can then affect our energy

23:12

levels, which then can affect our sleep.

23:15

It's all linked. So I think

23:17

really taking I think the next big thing in the health industry is

23:19

gonna be taken care of our nervous system. And

23:21

I think that

23:22

it's actually a lot of it's going to be

23:25

free advice go outside and get some

23:27

mess. Get off your phone, put your

23:29

feet in the ground. Ten minutes, ten

23:31

minutes in the morning, ten minutes in the night. minerals and

23:33

water supplement. I notice simplifying.

23:35

Simple I noticed that my hair postpartum

23:37

has gotten twenty times thicker

23:39

than it was before. And yes,

23:41

I'm supplementing, but I'm also eating a

23:43

lot of meat. That's more

23:46

traditional. Line is really important by hair growth.

23:48

I'm eating a lot of grass fed meat.

23:50

Like every single day, and my

23:52

hair, my eyebrows, is just it's

23:54

so much thicker. Yeah. So I

23:56

think it it's exactly what you said. It's going

23:58

back to the basics and simplifying

23:59

Well, that makes me excited because

24:02

I also started j as as a way

24:04

to simplify the health industry. I felt very confused and very overwhelmed.

24:06

And as Michael said, it was still confusing overwhelmed.

24:08

How can we possibly be when

24:10

we have come so far with the health industry

24:12

and, you know, I created the vitamins even

24:14

to simplify the vitamin space. I think

24:16

simplifying is the next best thing we can do

24:18

for our health. It's exactly what you just said you've like nailed

24:20

on the head. It's like, when I talk about morning

24:22

and nighttime routine, I'm talking like ten,

24:25

fifteen minutes. it can be. And switching your point off and not

24:27

scrolling, these are things that are actually meant to be

24:29

easy to do, going downstairs and

24:31

having a calm peaceful minutes

24:33

of making your lemon water and making your coffee and,

24:35

you know, taking ten deep

24:37

belly breaths. Like, that is when you say to

24:39

someone, it says that in my clients,

24:41

Take ten deep belly breaths morning and night.

24:43

Do you know how hard that is for people to

24:46

do? And that's the best way because we have

24:48

Alvega's nerve. The best way to calm down your

24:50

nervous system immediately is by activating your

24:52

vagus nerve, which is through deep belly

24:54

breathing. So just ten morning and night. It's

24:56

all you need to do to calm down your

24:58

quarters You

24:58

know, like okay. You're obviously a business owner. You run a company. I run

25:00

a company. Lord runs a company. And I and I feel like

25:02

one thing, like, the biggest thing that I champion within

25:04

the business is, like,

25:06

not

25:07

to over complicate things. Yeah.

25:09

Right? Like, everybody thinks that doing

25:11

something like this or running a business or taking care of

25:13

yourself is this over complicated equation

25:16

that requires all of these things. I'm like,

25:18

listen. Start here. Let me know where you wanna

25:20

go. What are the three steps to get there and do that?

25:22

Right? Like, people envelope all of

25:24

these things and they think they have to have all these different

25:26

formulas and all these different answers and all these different

25:28

procedures. And they're like, you're just overcomplicating and

25:30

calculating everything. I think this same thing

25:32

happens in in your health. hundred That sounds like it's

25:34

this big hoops that you gotta jump through

25:36

and it's all over the place. Like, you probably don't

25:38

need to do it. We didn't evolve this way. Literally.

25:40

This is very simple. A hundred percent.

25:41

I think Again, I used to say in

25:43

private practice, one to two

25:46

changes a week. And they can be the tiniest, but you

25:48

wouldn't believe the difference that they make.

25:50

People who are drinking one or two coffees

25:52

a day really, that can be affecting their

25:54

cortisol levels and their sleep. Come

25:56

back to one coffee a day before ten or

25:58

eleven AM. Their entire

26:00

sleep and energy levels change.

26:03

they say patterns and energy levels change.

26:05

Adding more water,

26:06

another leader of water. What

26:07

a novel idea? What's the

26:09

biggest cause of the take?

26:10

probably being dehydrated. Yeah. Yeah. Of course. I

26:12

never drink water at all. Yeah. Well, look at

26:14

you. But

26:15

literally, the number one the number one

26:17

cause of fatigue can be dehydration and

26:20

people feeling so tired these days.

26:22

You know, being tired and loving energy is like

26:24

a thing. So I think

26:26

more water. One to two small changes a week

26:28

going to bed half an

26:30

hour earlier. Yeah. I mean, if

26:31

you think about it in the simplest

26:33

terms again, like, we didn't have access to all of these

26:36

complicated things in the past. Right? So, like, yeah,

26:38

like, food, good food, good water,

26:40

good sleep, seeing getting some sun,

26:42

back all of these things. we've

26:44

just gone so far away and then we live in these I

26:46

mean, no. I know all these lights with the podcast. But you

26:48

know what I mean? Like, we're in these, like, artificial boxes

26:50

with all these artificial things thinking this is how

26:52

we're gonna be helping. you look

26:53

at so much blood work.

26:55

Out of everyone's blood work, what's something that

26:57

you see that's a common denominator and

26:59

which vitamin is is a vitamin

27:01

that you think or mineral that you think

27:04

people are missing. And and it's across the

27:06

board and you can't believe it. And Taylor take

27:08

notes

27:08

because Taylor

27:09

has not a vitamin since nineteen ninety nine.

27:11

It's definitely it was a flintstone. I

27:13

actually can't get over the low iodine levels

27:15

that I was seeing and I'm seeing.

27:18

That's why I created hair and energy because people are always adding

27:20

in these very interesting.

27:22

The same boring you're not boring. Let

27:24

me say that again because I'm scared. I'm gonna

27:27

get crazy. people are just adding in the biotin, the

27:29

silica, the collagen into hair supplements. Right?

27:31

And what happened was I used used to do people's

27:33

blood work and saw that their ID levels were

27:35

really low. So I would prescribe them

27:37

iodine through kelp and I watch that

27:39

their hair would grow like wildfire

27:41

and their eyebrows and I could just tell and I'm

27:43

like, let me look into the research and just side

27:45

note, can you have you want to have

27:47

that when you have a thyroid like my Depends.

27:49

Okay. Go ahead. Go ahead. Depends. But at

27:51

a small amount, like, one fifty two hundred micrograms.

27:53

That's really nice and safe. So

27:55

I would it was just an accident how

27:57

discovered hair and energy, which is our best selling hair

27:59

growth formulation, which really does work.

28:02

which is interesting to me because people in the industry,

28:04

especially in the vitamin industry, do go off trends.

28:06

Again, the silica, the bioten,

28:08

the collagen. And what happened was I

28:10

was prescribing kelp the iodine levels

28:12

because people iodine levels were low and started

28:15

seeing that the hair was growing. So we looked

28:17

into the research and we actually saw that iodine

28:19

has been proven to support hair growth, hair

28:21

strength and hair thickness, that's the exact research

28:23

claim. And Zinc, as well, has been

28:25

shown to support hair growth and help maintain

28:27

healthy hair. Again, the research claim is

28:29

exactly that. And so I was like, I'm gonna

28:31

create a hair formulation with these two minerals,

28:33

because in the science, this is even

28:35

stronger than what I'm seeing with Biotinib, silicone,

28:37

collagen, And that's how we let you know,

28:39

it's literally looking into the research and

28:41

seeing how these minerals can help support have

28:43

been proven to support various So

28:45

when it comes to what I think

28:48

people are often low in the

28:50

minerals. I think people are low, it's hard to

28:52

test, you know, essential fatty acids through the

28:54

blood, but people are often low in essential fatty

28:56

acids. People are often low in

28:58

magnesium. Again, I quote the

29:00

magic mineral because everyone

29:02

feels better when they take magnesium. There are

29:04

a couple Thank you. bring your magnesium at

29:06

night. Magnesium at night. If I take

29:08

your magnesium at night, I was traveling with it.

29:10

It's just a way to wind down.

29:12

It's just like like a night. signals my

29:14

body just wind down. Because magnesium glyuronate

29:17

is the one that has been proven to actually

29:19

target the nervous system specifically. I notice

29:21

it and also I notice it

29:23

things moving -- Which -- who doesn't like the Citrix. Yeah.

29:25

The Citrix. It gets it gets things moving, magnesium

29:27

is a good one.

29:29

I got my blood work tested, and I was really low

29:32

on fish oil. Yeah. And one

29:34

of the things that if you're low on fish

29:36

oil is you could easily inflamed. And

29:38

as we know, with best way to reduce the

29:40

information, I've launched that I'm I run

29:42

puffy. So Are

29:44

you you just just mentioned that you're noticing that a

29:46

lot. Can you talk about if you're low on

29:48

fish oil, what you'll see happens?

29:51

Will dry skin is one?

29:54

really, that's fish oil. There's

29:56

there's three supplements that I think people

29:58

just feel much better when taking. I I don't

29:59

normally say this. I'm very careful prescribing

30:02

and I absolutely hate talking about my own products,

30:04

and I don't push them on anyone. But there are three

30:06

things that people feel better at taking. A

30:08

probiotic, magnesium, and fish They

30:10

like the three standards. We actually call them the JSL

30:12

foundations because people just feel better

30:14

taking those three things. I mean, the research

30:16

behind probiotics is

30:18

pretty it's probably the best there is in

30:20

the health industry right now, the microbiome in

30:22

the way. I'm taking one there.

30:25

a treatment area rollout. Understand. Sorry. Go ahead. I mean,

30:27

and our strains of probiotics are so

30:29

carefully selected and only we

30:31

will only use the that have been proven in

30:33

the research, actually, what? You can take one to two.

30:35

Should I

30:35

take one or two? You can take two. Okay. Take two.

30:38

Just buy not. We're trusting you.

30:39

Funny because I actually you know, like, I just know I

30:41

mean, the research is moment. I've been taking our probiotics

30:43

as well, and I'm actually sleeping better. And

30:45

I did some research and I saw that there is

30:47

a link between Algot Microbiome

30:49

slate. I'm sure you guys had seen that as well.

30:52

So if you're having trouble sleeping, you

30:54

added quite a bit. Well, I mean,

30:56

magnesium first. it's interesting because all these things are

30:58

microbiome. I think we're just at the

31:00

start of how important it is for our

31:02

overall health. And we know how important it is for

31:04

dopamine and serotonin and our immune

31:06

system already, but it's gonna get it's it's pretty incredible

31:08

already, the research behind probiotics. And I as

31:10

I said, I've started sleeping better since taking them and

31:12

I'm like, something's interesting. So I looked

31:15

a correlation between our microbiome and

31:17

sleep, which is pretty phenomenal. I think

31:19

fish oil is you were saying that you were taking a

31:21

percentage for inflammation. Yes.

31:23

There are two things that just so great at reducing inflammation. One

31:25

being fish oil at a really nice dose, about

31:27

two grams. We have a triple

31:29

strength fish oil, so you can take one to two. So you don't have

31:31

to take like five caps and you want it

31:33

to be a you want it to be a fish oil though

31:36

that is really carefully sourced.

31:38

That's the thing. You want it to be

31:41

small fish macro, sardines,

31:43

you got to be careful and you want

31:45

to know literally where that visual has been

31:47

sourced from. You want to know sustainably source

31:49

for a nation heavy metal chestnut. When

31:53

luckily, now now we have good visuals, but

31:55

how do you know if it's a bad

31:57

visual supplement? what

31:57

do you look for? Firstly, okay. Well, I like to

31:59

look at

31:59

the dose. Firstly, if it's a

32:01

low dose, I don't like that. Like, j as

32:04

well vitamin the reason, again, Y grade, I was like,

32:06

come on guys. When you high dose, it's more expensive for us

32:08

as a company, but I want you to take

32:10

magnesium at two hundred milligrams, which is

32:12

our dose. because I want you to sleep better. I

32:14

want your bowels to move. I want your muscles to

32:16

relax. You know, I want you to

32:18

feel better. j as how vitamins

32:20

was created. to be solution

32:22

focused vitamins for women, in particular, as main

32:24

pain points. But the biggest

32:26

difference of childhood vitamins and the reason why it's had

32:28

success is genuinely the little

32:30

aspects like the DARS. They look like Those are the

32:31

ones that they've got, like, little mini eggs, and there's a

32:33

big DARS. It's such a beautiful, beautiful,

32:36

visual. What we did is

32:38

we coded them in Manila. Oh, no. It's good to ask you. Yeah. It's Manila

32:40

because we don't want people to have any fishy outtakes. Listen,

32:42

being a practitioner has helped me because

32:45

I saw what people liked about supplements and what people didn't like. I

32:47

saw the confusion and overwhelm people

32:49

felt. And so we actually put the name

32:51

on the supplement. We tell you how that

32:53

supplement's gonna help you. back

32:55

quickly to inflammation, facial, and

32:57

turmeric are the best ways to reduce

32:59

inflammation. I've never the research behind

33:01

turmeric and inflammation is

33:04

Brilliant.

33:04

Brilliant.

33:06

Twilio's toolbox, I guess. Twilio's.

33:09

Twilio's. Okay. So it's

33:11

really my morning and nighttime routine. I know

33:13

you go obsessed by that. But they are. That is. Like,

33:15

starting my day with the twenty minutes of calm,

33:17

not checking my phone, not checking my emails, I

33:19

actually so I'm have

33:21

gone extreme in this way because

33:23

boundaries are my best way of taking care of myself at the

33:25

moment. And so I delayed

33:27

Instagram and my emails from my

33:29

phone the night before. around

33:31

I have a time, so I set it at eight

33:33

PM for me. And I always say

33:35

to people, especially moms, you set a time

33:37

that works for you because I know moms sometimes have to

33:39

work at night. So you have to set a time

33:41

though because if you set the time, you will commit to it. If

33:43

you don't set a time, you will not commit to it. So mine

33:45

is eight, eight thirty. That's my

33:47

time. No more

33:47

social, no more email, no more But

33:49

I literally delete the app because I've counted and

33:51

it takes eight seconds to redownload it

33:53

the next day. If I don't I don't have enough sense.

33:55

back in everything? No. You can

33:57

automatically log back in for you. So

33:59

I'd like all

34:00

my That's very lazy. I'm like,

34:02

even put a password in. But

34:03

Yeah. Password is still ringing. I

34:06

agree. So my morning routine is twenty minutes. I

34:08

don't have any apps on my phone. So

34:10

firstly, I'll have a workout of some

34:12

sort. I'll I'll have a workout. I'll workout in a way that I

34:14

feel like, again, tuning into your body

34:16

and what works for you is the biggest thing. And I know you

34:18

guys talk a lot about that, but that's why I

34:20

started j's all

34:22

from, like, listening to what everyone else is doing or the training exercises, the training

34:24

foods, but I actually wanna listen to what works for

34:26

me. And running on a treadmill for two hours a

34:28

day was actually not working for

34:30

me. So Pilates. for

34:31

anybody. Yeah.

34:32

Exactly. So Pilates yoga, I go

34:35

for a walking nature, twenty minutes, have

34:37

a coffee, take my vitamins, that

34:39

time, I also have not checked my phone pretty much. I'll have

34:41

my eye messages on if anything urgent, but I

34:43

haven't scrolled. And I like to start my day

34:45

in a comment. I think how you start your day

34:47

sets the tone for the day. and I know

34:49

you're very into that. I love that you say you read. That's

34:52

something I really wanna do. One day. You're

34:54

doing okay. You're doing good. morning

34:56

routine and the nighttime routine, and I have obviously the

34:58

j's health like, smoothie in the morning and power protein smoothie with my

35:00

vitamins. Nighttime routine is the same thing.

35:02

Twenty minutes, it's called the wind down to me.

35:04

It's just an epsom salt

35:06

bath, my magnesium, I take my p m plus,

35:08

which is a slight vitamin with laminates or

35:10

oil extract, which is, again,

35:12

incredible research behind climbing down the

35:14

mine because Again, people are saying your

35:16

brain to sleep? And sleep deeply

35:18

is what I'm more interested in. You can't just

35:20

say sleep seven eight hours. It's like,

35:23

you need to calm down your nervous system and get that

35:26

melatonin firing like people don't know that

35:28

cortisol levels are meant to come down at

35:30

six PM. In the coming

35:32

No. So in melatonin, it's meant to take over at six

35:34

PM -- Okay. -- to rise up. But in this day and age,

35:36

I don't think it's happening very well. So people's cortisol

35:38

levels actually rise up and that is what causes a

35:40

drain off take off in. So people are

35:42

waking up tired. I like to

35:45

ask them how like, what is

35:47

happening in that nighttime evening

35:49

routine and how how quickly, you know, what time are you falling asleep

35:51

and how much sleep are you getting? In a hundred percent right.

35:53

I had an adrenal issue with my and I worked on

35:55

with my doctor and fixed it,

35:57

but my issue was I think I was blasting him so hard

35:59

to your point at night. And then in the morning when

36:01

the carnival was, like, supposed to rise, it wasn't strong

36:04

enough to be able to do so. And so he's

36:06

like, hey, you you, like, you

36:08

need to actually boost the cortisol in your

36:10

system because you're Yes. It's on your side of the brain. You've

36:11

deplated it for so long. Cortisol is so nice,

36:14

nice, nice, and it's like that thing

36:16

that you it will be

36:16

it will turn very quickly. So you want it

36:18

in the perfect amount and then it will but the

36:20

best if anyone out there is wondering what

36:23

adrenal fatigue is, the the The

36:25

first sign is waking up tired and

36:27

craving salty foods. And that's sort of when you

36:30

that's sort of when you're like, something's going with

36:32

adrenals and we need to know what's happening with

36:34

the melatonin orders all cycle, and that's the thing that we need to address. And

36:36

the minute we accept Tired Buri eyed

36:38

and Crave's Doritos. So

36:40

Taylor, are you

36:41

a general strategist? I got

36:43

these things from the gas station earlier. They're, like, they're

36:45

they look like little hot. He doesn't want to

36:47

take a look. Taylor

36:48

is taking one something. He's taking out

36:50

collagen? Yeah. I was take

36:51

I was taking the collagen. I had the what was it? The

36:53

anti stress? The one that was not No. No. You were taking

36:55

the p m plus. Yes. I've been

36:58

And in then I had the

37:00

shit. What was the other one? I had I was taking three of

37:02

them. I can't recall what they are, but they were great. III

37:04

ate up No.

37:05

I remember you were sleeping better. That made me really

37:07

happy. Yeah. That's why, like, magnesium glistenase citrate chelate with

37:09

the lavender extract and chamomile and passion about. So

37:11

again, these are ingredients that have been proven in the

37:13

research to calm down the mind and the nervous

37:15

system, to enhance sleep.

37:17

And so I say, people who are not sleeping

37:20

well, please just figure out it's

37:22

not about just saying to yourself, I need to go to sleep

37:24

for eight hours. It's like actually

37:26

preparing the mind and the nervous system. How can

37:28

you prepare your mind and your

37:30

nervous system for sleep? Think

37:32

about the pre, the pre bed time rather than just saying, I need to go to

37:34

bed, put my head down, and sleep eight hours,

37:36

think about the pre bed. What is happening? What are you

37:38

eating for dinner? People don't even know

37:40

that protein. amino

37:42

acids help to make tryptophan, which helps to make melatonin.

37:44

So people are not eating protein at dinner,

37:46

a lot of vegans and plant based.

37:49

people who I respect that I respect people who follow

37:52

those diets for ethical reasons, but

37:54

not getting those amino acids in can really

37:56

affect their sleep and their skin

37:58

as well. So and their

38:00

dopamine and serotonin. Do you want to know something that has been waking

38:02

making me wake up with a pep in

38:04

my step, mouth taping? mouth

38:07

the taping I take a break. My mouth is shut

38:10

every night. Well, for people that

38:12

have

38:12

trouble so some

38:14

a lot of people don't have this trouble. If you're

38:15

if you're somebody that

38:18

sleeps and breathes out of your mouth instead of your knees. I think I do

38:20

that. That's So what is it helping? Oh,

38:22

my god. I

38:25

swear to god it makes you

38:27

breathe it makes you breathe deeper. No. So you're

38:30

you're using the oxygen under your nose

38:32

as opposed to your mouth, so it's different. And I think

38:34

that also has I have a feeling that that

38:36

connects with the vagus nerve. it out. It's also a

38:38

earful job.

38:38

Thanks. And you Well, you

38:40

go

38:40

to your to your doctor research and

38:42

tell me because I have been taking my

38:44

mouth shut. It's it's not a big deal. I used the

38:47

it it's blue off Amazon. It's like

38:49

V102 And it's these

38:51

Correct. So I posted a quick talk on

38:53

it you guys.

38:54

also good for oral health too. You know what I mean? Now I thought you're gonna say it's good for oral sex.

38:56

I'm like, it's not good for oral sex. You can't get your

38:58

dick in my mouth with these mouth tape. It's not really

39:00

a joke. What is the mouth

39:03

tape is on too. He knows, like, don't come near me, don't touch

39:05

me. It's a great way, like, if you're just, like,

39:08

done for the night too, you put the mask on. mouth tape.

39:10

It

39:10

was like, at comes around, like, good. Just shut the

39:12

fuck.

39:12

Yeah. I do shut. And then my daughter and

39:14

when I wake up every morning, she wants the

39:16

justice now. Rips it off my face. She wants

39:19

it off my face. But It does

39:21

work, and it's you gotta get the right one, though,

39:23

because there's different brands and like -- Okay. --

39:25

especially if you're have

39:27

them. I'm sure. I'm

39:28

sure Aaron It's nice. We have a little ritual at, like, five thirty PM. I pull out the

39:30

mouth tape and I put it over her mouth and I'll make that

39:32

tape for you today. I need to do something.

39:34

I had

39:35

hung up with so much

39:37

more energy because of my magnesium and

39:39

-- Yeah. -- magnesium really helps energy in the morning.

39:41

People do not know that. Can we just talk about

39:44

that? Yes. because people are worried that magnesium will make them feel

39:46

tired.magnesium actually is involved

39:48

in three hundred different biochemical pathways

39:50

in the body. You can imagine

39:53

just how much it helps the energy production. And actually

39:55

because I look into the research so

39:57

much, magnesium has a research claim that helps to

39:59

support energy production. That is literally the

40:02

research claim. Support energy production.

40:04

So magnesium is so brilliant because it

40:06

works on calming down the nervous system calming

40:08

down the muscle relaxation,

40:11

but also

40:11

energy production. Can you can you distinguish real quick on the magnesium

40:13

front? Magnizum, glycemic versus citrate?

40:16

Yes. I actually like both. I

40:17

like glycemic. They're both at nadir. Do you take

40:19

them a different chance?

40:21

Ours has all three. The three favorite forms of

40:23

magnesium that I love, which are glycinate citrate and

40:25

chelate. They have different functions. l three

40:27

in it, manganese and l three

40:29

in it. It's something. No. I

40:31

don't like rotate that much. I don't like oxide that much. Okay. Okay.

40:33

Which one is yours? Maybe it's an No. No. No. No.

40:35

People are the

40:35

same. Yeah.

40:37

So magnesium, we

40:39

like we want to have the most bioavailable forms of bengese now. Let me tell you

40:41

they're also much more expensive. If you're

40:43

seeing a supplement with bengese in glycentate,

40:45

this is a very good

40:48

sign. magnesium glycerin in our vitamin industry is an expensive ingredient, but

40:50

it's the best when it comes to calming down the nervous

40:52

system and key lights and etcetera are really good

40:56

for bowel. bow movement and muscle relaxation. It's okay to take citrate at

40:58

night even

40:58

with the bowels. Yes. Absolutely. And also really

41:00

helps people in the morning.

41:01

That's why I like it. Because the thing

41:03

about magnesium is

41:06

not very instantaneous when it comes to bowel movement, it takes time because

41:08

it you know what it does? It relaxes the

41:10

the muscles, the bowel muscles, but

41:12

also draws water -- Okay. -- into

41:14

the bowel else to

41:16

help. For some reason, I thought

41:16

and then maybe I was just ignorant. It's probably

41:19

was that I knew

41:20

the glass and it was great for night, but I

41:22

thought the it was, like, if you wanted to eat it in

41:24

the or take it in the day and then, like, go have a workout?

41:26

Or is that It can because it's really

41:28

good for your muscles and energy. But this is

41:30

what I say about magnesium. It's a mineral be so beautiful because

41:32

it doesn't have it's not intense in

41:34

the body. It really just supports it. It's

41:36

not gonna be instantaneous energy. It's not gonna

41:40

be instantaneous bowel movements. I can be instantaneous muscle realization. That's why you want to

41:42

take it probably on a regular basis for most. I

41:44

can't prescribe, and I'm careful

41:46

with prescribing. but you also want to tag

41:48

magnesium at a good

41:48

dose. So it's okay if you take it at

41:50

night because you're getting enough in that night for the next My

41:53

gosh.

41:53

People take our magnesium and RPM plus that has the

41:55

three different forms magnesium citrate, glycemia

41:57

and chelate and they sleep better. But the

41:59

best thing

41:59

about magnesium is you sleep better, but you also wake

42:02

up more energized. And I think it also has

42:04

a nice effect on the adrenal glands. It really does feed the adrenal

42:06

glands, but it also helps her hormones,

42:08

magnesium when people come in used to come and see me

42:10

with any sort of

42:12

hormonal imbalances. My three

42:14

favorites were magnesium,

42:16

b six, and fish oil. The three together like

42:18

gives me chills when I talk about vitamins because I just have seen

42:20

the way that they help so many anyone out

42:22

there struggling with hormonal imbalances, magnesium,

42:24

fish oil, and b six for a

42:26

nice chunk of period of time. And as

42:28

I say, doses matter in vitamins. So

42:31

the thing is you all go through the aisles of whole foods or arrow one,

42:33

you'll see a magnesium. But if you look at the back and it

42:35

has fifty milligrams of magnesium, that's just not enough.

42:37

That's not a therapeutic act.

42:40

So you wanna find a company that is interested in investing in

42:43

therapeutic doses and forms of

42:45

the ingredients. So is it magnesium orientate or

42:47

is it magnesium glyuronate and

42:50

is fifty milligrams or is that two hundred milligrams?

42:52

Therapeutic dose is what you want because

42:54

that's how you're gonna take a supplement and actually

42:56

notice a benefit

42:58

or result What should our children be taking? Listen,

43:00

we have a nice kids multi, but I love

43:02

kids to get their nutrition through food.

43:04

Yeah. I think we keep it again,

43:06

like, simplifying. and

43:08

I know you guys, I'm sure I feed your kids really wholesome bit. And modeling

43:10

off She was eating She's

43:12

at the other day for breakfast though.

43:15

I'm I'm not really confident for tend to

43:17

be like like listen. I mean, I do what I

43:19

can do. Exactly. I mean, my my mom let us

43:21

have McDonald's twice a week growing You know? It's

43:23

like it's it really is. And it

43:25

was boring to say this in the health industry at this

43:27

point, but the eighty twenty approach is like, I I

43:29

really aim to eat well, eighty percent of the time why just

43:31

because I wanna feel good. I wanna wake

43:33

up energized. I wanna sleep well. But absolutely wanna have my rosé at lunch

43:36

today. I absolutely wanna have my

43:38

truffle pasta

43:40

at ilpistido. I absolutely

43:42

wanna have my gelato on a

43:44

Saturday night. I wanna go, you know, it's like that it

43:46

really is. And I think the body likes that

43:48

though. In terms of honest

43:50

weight management, It's so fascinating because I used to I had to book my books

43:52

and my eight week program. And what was all

43:54

about learning go with our dieting, stopping

43:56

to weigh

43:58

yourself like literally part of my philosophy was people have to throw out the scale

44:00

for three months. Throughout the scale,

44:02

stop fat dieting, stop restriction, and

44:04

I used to actually say that people you

44:06

have to go out on Saturday night and indulge in something

44:09

you're craving. Wine, gelato pasta. And the fascinating thing to

44:11

me was that people started

44:14

balancing out their weight by being

44:16

more relaxed, by being kinder to themselves,

44:18

by being more flexible, by calming down

44:20

that nervous system and having a better relationship

44:22

with food, People's weight's out of

44:24

balancing out. I know you know that and talk about that.

44:26

People, you know We could not lose weight with my

44:28

first baby because I was so stressed

44:30

out every I And you're really like, were you restricting and

44:32

depriving yourself? Do you think? I was I

44:34

was intermittent fasting. I was exhausted

44:36

with my screenals. I was complaining

44:38

about it.

44:40

I look back on that time and it was just like I was just it

44:42

was I was taxing on my nervous system, whereas

44:44

this time I've taken the approach of, like,

44:47

let's wait left. Let's take walk. You're

44:49

it sounds to me like you're tuning into your

44:51

body and actually listening to it. Like the people in the

44:53

world we're living in is we're listening to everyone else where you

44:55

stop listening to ourselves. And what works for me? What works for me is

44:57

they're very different to what works for you guys. When Lauren and

44:59

I both have the same blood type and that blood

45:02

type, you know, if you go through it like a odd

45:04

blood type does very

45:06

well with red meat. It just

45:08

does. Right? And we do and we're both the same.

45:10

And I've you know, my dad

45:12

is almost eighty and he's been a big Almost

45:14

no vegetables entire life. Anyway, that's right. Yeah.

45:16

Very healthy, like, cholesterol for all these things. I'm like,

45:18

listen, you have to kinda actually go into your point, your

45:20

blood work, your brain, and see what works.

45:23

you can't just go and say, like, this person does it this

45:25

way. So I'm gonna do it that way and I'm not gonna And

45:27

can

45:27

I be honest, like, even if you don't do the blood

45:29

work and stuff, if you give yourself some time to tune

45:31

into your body, you will figure out soon, what works

45:33

for you? because if you start eating meat and starting

45:35

feeling starting to feel good and energized and

45:37

sleeping, but on all of that, you will figure

45:39

out yourself that, wow, that works

45:42

for me. Right.

45:42

And I know what I'm saying is that sometimes, I think it's scarce, people when you have to say, go

45:44

get the blood. Go get the hormone test. Go get the

45:47

blood test. It's overwhelming. But actually, if people

45:49

could have the freedom to

45:52

go and eat what

45:52

they craving and not feel so much fear around food and

45:54

start realizing, wow, I'm actually feeling really

45:56

good. That works for me and giving yourself

45:58

the permission and the freedom to say,

46:02

yay. sometimes I won't

46:02

have a vegetable for, like, four days straight and have, like, literally

46:04

eight servings of meat. Like And then you feel

46:06

about You have you have to be careful of that because you

46:08

get under eye bags. You don't have enough

46:11

veg vegetables. I don't know, but that's since when. I don't know,

46:13

but I wanted to tell Jessica

46:15

that you did the stool sample test. Were

46:17

you shitting the bag? Yeah.

46:18

break that down for everyone who wants to

46:20

know about that. I don't know if we needed to go

46:22

through. If there's an episode we did with Doctor Daryl. You

46:24

have a doctor Daryl where we go through all that? I don't need to put people

46:26

through that again. get in

46:27

a bag now. What did it say? So this

46:29

was interesting. So I did all my and I'll do this quick for

46:31

a few. We're gonna listen for a while. My

46:34

blood

46:34

work came back, not gonna lie,

46:36

but pretty stellar. Honestly, it was like pretty

46:38

nice. Sure. And it was like a I was a little low on zinc, like, borderline. So I

46:40

bumped that up. I was a little low on,

46:42

like, five more oysters. So,

46:44

like, bumped that up. But

46:47

so the reason I say this is that the blood work and I had been working I was sober. I was doing all of

46:49

these things to, like, really take care of supplementing -- Yeah. --

46:51

taking care of myself. So I was like,

46:53

that looks good. like, let's

46:55

take it a step further and do the gut work. And then the

46:57

gut works like, okay, there's some candida, like,

46:59

some information. I'm like, I would have never caught it

47:01

if I just did that. So then I did some

47:03

things and I got on this, like, got a protocol with him and now I feel

47:05

way better. But I think this is why people need to

47:07

kinda look at

47:10

both things. right? Totally. And

47:10

also, like, just to give yourself permission to say that

47:13

works for me. Right. I feel like I used

47:15

to feel so scared to be like I

47:17

love to eat meat too, and I

47:19

love rice, and I love foods that make me

47:21

feel good. So like, but that might not

47:24

work with someone else. I

47:26

just think tuning into your body and works for you is like the next

47:28

best way to live the healthy life, you know.

47:30

And I think it's when we're not there

47:32

yet. People still listening to everyone

47:34

else, people still confused and overwhelmed and listening to

47:36

every other trend out there and

47:38

follow following influencers who are, you know,

47:40

following trends. which I

47:42

appreciate because I used to be one of the people who loved it and

47:44

wouldn't do anything to

47:46

achieve, you know, a better looking body. And I

47:48

also say there's a difference between being a health

47:50

conscious and weight conscious. And, you

47:52

know, you really wanna gear towards the health

47:54

conscious because then everything else balances

47:56

out anyway. You really wanna eat

47:58

to feel good, eat to be well,

48:00

and then you start figuring out which foods suit your body and your

48:02

body type. You talked a little

48:04

bit off air about mental health, what

48:07

are some vitamins that you use to support mental

48:09

health? And what have you gone? They're pretty

48:11

obsessed with vitamins at the moment to

48:14

support mental health because of Safran. The research has

48:16

twenty two plus clinical trials right now to show the effects

48:18

of Safran on anxiety,

48:20

depression, and sleep. It has

48:22

blow my mind. Like, I'm really happy to send

48:24

you guys I

48:26

I actually haven't seen research this solid

48:28

in the industry for a vitamin when

48:30

it comes to mental health and well-being. Safran

48:32

had a really nice dose We

48:35

actually use which is extract the studies have been conducted on itself,

48:37

like we use the standardized extract,

48:40

saffron with

48:41

fish oil. magnesium.

48:44

And we have an anxiety plus stress formulation, which

48:46

is a combination of very calming herbs,

48:48

but also adapted getting herbs. I know

48:50

you love adapted getting herbs like Romania,

48:54

gencing. I love our anxiety and plus stress vitamin because it

48:56

has the yin and the yang. So it calms you

48:58

down, but also really feeds the adrenal

49:02

glands. Remani at a really good Remani is one of my favorite adapted eating herbs

49:04

because it really does just juice

49:06

up the adrenal glands and people feel much

49:08

more energized when they take it and so beer

49:12

engine saying as well and then passion out.

49:13

So if you are feeling like

49:14

you're struggling with anxiety and

49:17

sleep and

49:17

your mood, really

49:19

look at

49:19

saffron, fish oil, magnesium,

49:22

and then we also have a formulation called

49:24

anxiety plus stress that has

49:26

a combination of herbs and minerals that mental health and

49:29

well-being. Can we do a

49:32

JSR health giveaway for the audience? Yes.

49:34

Of course. Do you tell me what you wanna

49:36

do? Whatever. We give away, like, what what can

49:38

we give away? Can we give away like a bundle? Yeah. We

49:40

can give, like, one of every product.

49:43

Oh my god. I'm sorry. That's so major. Definitely

49:45

have to include the magnesium that I like. I'm

49:47

a big fan of magnesium at night. If you

49:49

have not implemented magnesium into your

49:51

routine at night, I do it every

49:54

single night. I did it in my whole

49:56

pregnancy. I did it I do it

49:58

now. It's helped postpartum. It helps me sleep.

50:00

It's part of my routine. Yeah. So let's

50:02

give away that. Let's definitely include the magazine. All you have to do is follow

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