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Amy wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome

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everybody to The Psychologist are In. I

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am Maggie Lawson. I'm her podcast partner

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in crime, Timothy Elmison. And today

0:34

we are talking about a

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very special episode. It

0:39

is the hundredth episode of

0:41

Psych. It was so special

0:43

for us, beyond special for us.

0:46

And we have a very special guest to

0:49

talk about it. Today, Mr. Kurt Smith, who

0:51

you all know and love and we know

0:53

and love and we're so lucky to have

0:55

him for this pod. We love you so

0:57

much. Please enjoy 100 Clues. First

1:02

off, hi, Deb. Hi, Maggie.

1:04

I was in. Hi, Kurt. Hi, Kurt. Hi,

1:07

Maggie. You look

1:09

amazing. Thank you. And

1:11

most importantly, happy birthday, my

1:13

dear friend. Thank you. Thank you.

1:15

I actually had a ready

1:18

for you. No

1:20

way. No, you didn't. Oh my God. Happy

1:24

birthday to you.

1:27

Happy birthday to

1:30

you. Happy

1:33

birthday, dear Maggie.

1:38

Thank you. Happy

1:41

birthday to you.

1:46

I'm actually crying. I don't know if

1:48

you can see. Are

1:51

you kidding me? You're just saying happy birthday to me with your

1:53

guitars? It was your birthday yesterday. I missed it. This

1:55

is the least I could do to make up for it. I

1:57

don't even. We have to. Smith

2:00

just saying, have your birthday. I'm beside myself

2:02

right now. That's like bucket list

2:04

shit. But I

2:07

didn't, I didn't, I didn't expect. Oh

2:09

my God. And spontaneous legit tears in

2:11

my eyes. Like, I don't know what to do.

2:13

Somebody else is going to have to do this

2:15

podcast. Cause I'm dead. Not

2:18

only can you not read because you don't have your glass

2:20

up. You can't read this synopsis because you got tears

2:22

in your eyes. Cause I have tears in my eyes. And

2:24

also I'm just like, are you kidding me? This is

2:26

I know. And my dog just knocked the guitar over. And

2:29

you're oh, great. It's

2:32

like, I sang Maggie happy birthday and then broke

2:34

my guitar. But

2:36

it was worth it. Sorry. It

2:39

was so worth it. Oh my

2:41

God. Well, thank you. Maggie, should I ask

2:43

a very important question? Hey Kurt Smith legend

2:45

that you are a dear friend of ours. I mean,

2:48

you've already done it, but are you ready to help

2:50

the birthday girl, Meg Margaret Cassidy Lawson. I podcast the

2:52

shit out of this amazing 100th

2:55

episode of psych. Um,

2:57

I'm ready to podcast the shit out of

3:00

anything you desire. Oh, this is why you're

3:02

a friend. Why we ask you to

3:04

come play. Oh,

3:06

thank you. That's beautiful. Also today's been

3:08

the best Kurt Smith just sang me

3:10

happy birthday on a

3:12

zoom. And Tim gifted me

3:15

a horseback trail ride through a

3:17

vineyard. I don't know. Like

3:19

I don't as it, as

3:21

it like, are you, are you drinking

3:24

while on the horse? No,

3:26

you do have to wait till the laughter, but I do

3:29

have some wine in me. Yes. They

3:33

give you a tasting after, and it's

3:36

glorious. It's just glorious. Okay. Let me

3:38

try to do this podcast right now

3:40

since you're here and I don't want

3:42

to take your whole entire day, even

3:44

though, uh, I could just hang out

3:46

with you all day. I

3:49

have so few, I think

3:51

my biggest one is that this is

3:53

my favorite Gus nickname. Maybe ever. It's

3:55

a good one. Okay. Let's dive in

3:57

season seven, episode five. 100

4:01

clues, our homage to Clue. I

4:06

was so dumb in reading this. I never understood, I never

4:08

caught the 100 was being the 100th episode. Yeah.

4:13

It's our 100th episode. I'm not very bright

4:15

sometimes. What? No, I didn't quite get that

4:17

either. Then I realized, 100 Clues, of course,

4:19

it's our 100th episode. But as I was

4:21

looking back at it, I was like, oh,

4:24

why did we call it that? All right. It's

4:26

our 100th episode. I remember

4:28

the cake. I

4:30

remember. Yeah, I have. Kurt, wait

4:32

till I show you the photos I

4:35

have of you and Rodriguez

4:37

just like hanging out on set

4:39

and like the

4:41

100th episode. There's like a group photo.

4:43

Like I have so many photos from

4:45

this episode. It's so so it was

4:47

really magical. And I remember it. I

4:49

remember it really well. I remember it

4:52

like it was yesterday. Oh, yeah. This was a

4:54

big deal for all you listeners. I'm sure you

4:56

probably realize this. But to get to

4:58

100 episodes on any television show is a stupid

5:01

big deal. Yeah, it's a

5:03

really big deal with this one with this script

5:05

and with this direction by, of course, the great

5:07

Matt Shachman. Yeah. And

5:09

I was like. Our

5:12

beauty queen legend, dear

5:14

friend Kurt Smith. I can't believe I

5:16

said to say Kurt Smith is my

5:18

dear friend. It's so bizarre. It's so

5:20

bizarre. And I love it. Not that

5:22

weird. All right. This is also that

5:24

means this is like the at least

5:26

hundredth episode of the podcast. Oh, my

5:29

God. I guess you're right about that.

5:31

There's probably it's we've done more because

5:33

we've done some bonus. Yeah,

5:36

it's crazy. All right. Let's let's jump

5:38

in. This plus is the

5:40

hundredth episode. Oh, all

5:43

right. Written by Todd Hart and directed

5:45

by Matt Shachman. Pineapple sighting today. You

5:47

got it for once. I didn't. My God, you

5:50

got it. So tell us if I may

5:52

be so I'm so proud of my forgiveness.

5:55

It could not have been brighter. Like it was like right

5:57

in the middle of shot. It's the the doorbell. Yeah.

6:00

Yes, correct. The doorbell is the shape of

6:02

pineapple. I got something right. He got it.

6:04

I know. We never ever, ever find the

6:06

pineapples. Okay. Here, here goes nothing without

6:08

my glasses. This is going to be fun. All right.

6:11

It's 2007 and Sean and Gus are backstage

6:13

at a Billy Lips and the

6:15

guys behind the concert. Henry's

6:18

also there. I'm sorry. I gotta say

6:20

played really early by the amazing Steve Valentine

6:22

who just acted the shit out of this

6:24

role. He's really great in this.

6:26

Henry's there. He's bringing Billy a beer. The

6:28

second Billy gets off stage. Lassiter is there

6:30

to inform him that the SPP is bringing

6:32

him in for questioning regarding the bird. I need

6:35

to comment on one thing. When

6:38

the boys come burst into the backstage

6:40

green room and James brings

6:42

up rock and the song

6:44

rock and nuts and Dule does this

6:46

hand motion of, of it's

6:50

not okay. Nuts. It's just brilliant

6:53

physical comedy from our proud Dule

6:55

Hill. So good and so

6:57

bad. So bad, but

6:59

so good. So why is the

7:01

SPPD bringing him in for questioning

7:04

regarding the, um, Tim? Oh,

7:06

sorry. Um, someone died. There

7:09

you go. Melinda

7:12

Lane, a woman who was suffocated by a

7:14

pillow in his memoir. Oh, sorry. At his

7:16

mansion and his memoir really magazine. Here we

7:18

go. No glasses at his mansion years ago.

7:20

Billy's biography just came out. Oh, that makes

7:22

sense. And apparently there is information that

7:25

points to Billy being the murderer. But at that

7:27

moment, last year's hair is, I think

7:30

it's great in its most poured

7:33

from out of a cake, a cake

7:35

mold form, which is an homage to the

7:37

great Tim Curry's line in American Duro is

7:39

when he first describes last year's hair as

7:41

being poured from a cake mold. It

7:44

looks fantastic though. I have to say you look

7:46

great. I look so young with

7:48

dark black hair again. So

7:51

Billy's biography came out. There's information. Uh,

7:54

Billy is the murderer.

7:58

And at that moment, that's a good one. Sean

8:00

and Gus urge Billy to somehow exonerate himself.

8:02

Billy has no explanation or

8:05

alibi. He doesn't remember what really

8:07

happened that night. Last night, no

8:09

choice. Recollection. Correct.

8:14

So Lassie arrests him. It's present day at the

8:16

psych office. Sean has been invited to an exclusive

8:18

party via singing telegram,

8:21

which is very random and

8:23

kind of creepy. The party is

8:25

being held at one of Santa Barbara's landmark

8:28

mansions, the Bela Rosa. Sean

8:30

and Juliette agreed to go, even though they have

8:32

no idea what they've been invited to or I'm

8:34

sorry, who invited them or why it's happening. Just

8:36

then, Lassiter ruins the vibe because we're

8:38

supposed to have a good night. And I think

8:40

this was also, I mean, this is, I get

8:43

giddy around parlor games and stuff like this. We

8:45

know with mafia or whatever, this was real. This

8:47

was like Maggie and the same being this excited.

8:49

Lassiter ruins the vibe. I thought of getting to

8:51

go to this party, I mean. Yes.

8:55

Yes. Yes. I don't know what it is. I love a

8:57

mystery and I love a game. It's weird. I

9:00

don't remember who revenue would sell by a further price

9:02

but I really loved this story. We

9:16

had a conversation last night. We

9:18

talked about the times I was on Zoom last

9:20

night. You can't bunk relectric. Oh okay. You couldn't

9:23

Ay The

9:25

director of my business said, it's awesome. Look

9:28

at Cheryl, the one by one by one by one by one

9:30

was of course was an, an,

9:32

an, an odd to Tim Curry

9:34

and clue and we tried

9:37

to get Tim for this episode, but he was

9:39

unavailable. Yeah. So, but goodness

9:41

knows we, we try to get Mr. Curry for this

9:43

one. We got a. Yeah. We

9:46

yeah. So highway Harry, the band's manager, Martin

9:48

Con, oh, Martin Mull, right? We got him

9:51

as well. RIP Martin Mull.

9:53

Our, our, I mean, just our IP Martin

9:56

Mull. June is such

9:58

a like. a

10:00

legendary actor, but also was such a

10:02

nice human. I worked with him

10:05

a couple different show. An OG member of the

10:07

Clue Film cast. An OG member of the Clue

10:09

Film. Just like Lesley Ann Warren, who's already, I

10:11

think, been introduced. Yeah, she's

10:13

the groupie turned nurse. No

10:15

one knows why they've been invited. No

10:19

one knows why they've been invited to the

10:21

mansion until the host reveals himself. It's Billy

10:23

Lips, fresh out of prison, serving a- It's

10:26

a mystery. We

10:29

have lots of new words appearing today. I love

10:31

this. It's our 100th episode. We may as well.

10:33

Mystery. There

10:37

we go. After serving a five

10:39

year stint for the

10:41

voluntary manslaughter of Melinda Lane. Now that Sean knows

10:43

who the host is, Sean starts to realize the

10:45

connection between everyone invited to the party. Sean and

10:47

Gus are excited to see Billy, but they're also

10:50

nervous. They testified at Billy's trial and were a

10:52

part of the reason that he was found guilty.

10:54

But Billy shocks everyone. The other guest

10:57

of course is the iconic

10:59

Chris Lloyd. Yes. Who

11:03

then- Iconic. OG

11:06

Clue film cast member. He's so great.

11:08

Which one of those were like, I

11:10

couldn't believe we got Martin Mall

11:13

and Christopher Lloyd in the same room. Oh, Leon Warren. I

11:16

couldn't believe we got Kurt Smith. I

11:18

was getting, I was about to get to Kurt Smith. I'm

11:20

just reading quickly because I want to get to Kurt's part. It's

11:23

gonna happen for 30 damn minutes. I

11:25

know. I was like- And I did

11:27

make a hell of an entrance. You

11:30

do, but also I was like, do you know

11:32

what's so crazy? This is what's so

11:34

cool about you, Kurt. Is that when

11:36

I think of this episode, like I think of you.

11:38

So I'm like watching and I'm like, where's Kurt? But

11:41

where's Kurt? Where's Kurt? Oh, here he

11:43

is. And then I was like, oh my God, that's so funny.

11:45

Cause I think about a hundred clues. And I just think, I

11:47

was like, I think Kurt Smith. So

11:50

that says a lot about the impact

11:52

you make in the episode and have

11:54

made on all of our lives. It's

11:56

all I think about. I agree. Okay. So Sean

11:59

and Gus are excited. Oh, they're nervous. Right,

12:01

right, right. They're putting together. Um, uh, Billy

12:04

shocks everyone when he reveals the reason he's brought

12:06

them there is to thank them. He says the

12:08

jail changed his life for the better and that

12:10

he has never been happier or more clear. Call

12:12

out Steve Valentine giving this amazing monologue who

12:15

he's so funny in this in front of all

12:17

these comedy legends. Yeah. Which how nerve wracking the

12:19

Westman. I mean, he's a guest runner. He probably

12:21

just showed up the day. He probably just got

12:23

to Vancouver like the day before, if not the

12:25

day of this is probably as

12:28

schedules often go. So probably like his first day working.

12:30

He's so, he's so in it. He's,

12:32

he's so crazy. Great in this role.

12:34

So just then lightning strikes, it causes

12:36

lights in the mansion to go out.

12:38

When they regain power, they realize the

12:40

highway Harry's dad. Sean has a different

12:42

theory. Sean notices that rip

12:45

the guitar players missing from the

12:47

party from this. Sean thinks rip.

12:53

Oh, highway Harry. And that rip is

12:55

somewhere in the house. So Sean, uh,

12:58

posits that rip, uh, killed

13:00

highway Harry because he still rips music

13:02

rights. Everyone in the house grabs some

13:04

form of a weapon and splits up

13:06

to find rip the potential killer later

13:08

that night. Juliette and Lassiter show up

13:10

at the mansion saying the missing person.

13:12

Call out the, um, every time we,

13:14

we, um, the group running very,

13:17

it's just obviously it's, it's an homage

13:19

to again, this is Matt Shaqman genius.

13:22

It's an homage to one of the

13:24

funniest runners in clue or

13:26

just the group running quickly. Yeah. It's so

13:29

silly. We have to call out the guesst

13:31

nickname as well. Domo Arigato, which

13:35

is the greatest, I think. Anyway, so here

13:37

we come. Okay. We arrived to know, uh,

13:40

uh, later that night, Juliette

13:42

and Lassiter show up at

13:44

the mansion saying the missing

13:47

person they've been trying to

13:49

locate has been murdered. Good.

13:52

And that the GPS on his car was headed to the

13:54

location. They entered the mansion and learned that Sean and Gus

13:56

have been investigating. A it's. too

14:00

many. Too many I think like it

14:02

is. It is as well.

14:04

There's just so many in this. So it's like we

14:06

could make it we could make it a new drinking

14:08

game actually for this episode. We would have to

14:11

make our guests would I mean our our friends would

14:13

all have alcohol poisoning. That's true. In

14:15

fact, let me go back a minute. I

14:17

missed we missed a

14:20

double shot of of joy of

14:22

again. It's not doesn't have just to clarify the

14:24

drinking game doesn't have to be alcohol. It could

14:27

be pineapple juice or whatever or it

14:29

could be another shot of coffee whatever did you when

14:31

Sean call when O'Hara calls

14:34

Sean and and last

14:36

year gives him the the bad news that she can't come to the

14:38

party go to the party. I of

14:40

course, I'm in Sapphire bottled bottle bottle blue,

14:43

but you are in a new color. You're

14:46

in a rough color class. You're in the last

14:48

which is of course in the red family. So

14:50

it's part of the Pepto Pink family. So that

14:52

catching up is a double shot for all

14:55

you in by being the

14:57

they're they're just drunk now between

15:00

the murders and the Pepto

15:03

Pink in the Sapphire bottled blue. Okay, so

15:05

they enter the mansion. They learn that Sean

15:07

and Gus. Oh, we did

15:09

that. Their investigation takes a turn when they

15:11

realize that highway Harry's body has gone missing

15:13

and this is and not known

15:15

as he gone missing, but

15:17

Christopher Lloyd lets

15:20

out a a great Scott. He does when

15:22

in realizing that that Martin we

15:25

couldn't bring him up to be a part

15:27

of Clue and not have him do

15:30

something from back to the future. Come on.

15:32

It's like that was so fun. And the fact

15:35

that he was so game to go sure. I'll

15:37

I'll do that. He's the best. We see him

15:39

at conventions all the time. He's so nice. I

15:41

have yet to go up and say like, Hey,

15:43

Chris. I've said hi, but

15:45

like as a fan, I haven't been like, hey,

15:47

we work together. I'm just like, Hi, Maggie. I'm

15:49

over there and I'm a fan. Anyway, all right.

15:51

Let's see this next convention. We're out where he's

15:53

there. We'll say, well, I interrogated

15:58

you. I'm just so excited to meet him again. Yeah.

16:01

Okay. Sorry. He's nice. Okay.

16:03

So Rips dead body has been found in

16:05

the walk-in freezer. Juliet and Lassiter then realized

16:07

the missing person they were looking for is

16:10

Ripp. Lassiter splits everyone up for questioning. You're

16:12

very take charge here, Tim. And everyone is

16:14

interrogated. Lassiter and Juliet say that they, uh,

16:16

the only info they could glean is that

16:18

no one will admit to them. It's

16:22

too much to the murders and that everyone

16:24

is pointing fingers at each other. Additionally, this

16:26

is so silly. I, I, it

16:29

all made me laugh so much. Additionally, everyone mentioned that

16:31

there was a very, a vast amount of dirty laundry,

16:34

uh, aired during Billy's murder trial. It

16:36

turns out everyone involved had some pretty

16:38

damaging things to say about Billy from

16:40

this. Sean realizes that everyone in attendance

16:42

testified at Billy's trial and therefore had

16:45

a hand in putting him behind bars.

16:47

Sean presents a new theory, a

16:50

new theory. He believes Billy has brought

16:53

them all there for revenge. However, his

16:55

theories quickly put to rest when Billy,

16:57

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17:00

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that's... got

26:00

pregnant back when she was the band's groupie. Or

26:03

the gay Snoopy. Or the gay Snoopy. Shawn

26:06

informs the group that, okay, we know this, but since

26:08

none of the men claim to be the father of

26:10

the baby and she couldn't compel them to take a

26:12

paternity test, Leslie Ann was forced to raise the child

26:15

alone without a father. And because of this, she

26:18

decided to seek revenge on everyone who could

26:20

have potentially been the father by inviting them

26:22

to the mansion and killing each of them.

26:24

Leslie Ann says Shawn's theory is incorrect because

26:26

she's known who the baby's

26:28

father is all along. She reveals the baby's

26:30

father is Clisby, but Leslie Ann never told

26:32

Clisby about the baby because she thought the

26:35

band would fire him. And

26:37

then Highway Harry enters the room alive.

26:40

It turns out he was just unconscious

26:42

the whole time and and not actually

26:44

dead. Everyone is mystified. Highway Harry is

26:46

alive and they still haven't figured out

26:48

who the killer is. Juliet presents a

26:50

theory. She thinks that everyone had a

26:53

hand in it equipped with a series of clue related

26:55

flashbacks from the from that

26:57

night. Shawn test the theory by going through each

26:59

suspect one by one by one by one by

27:01

one by one by one by one explaining who

27:04

who killed who and why. But Clisby

27:06

steps in and pokes holes in Shawn's

27:09

theory from this Shawn agrees that

27:11

the everyone everyone did it theory is

27:13

wrong. And he reassesses I have to

27:16

call out one thing because I feel like we went

27:18

over this a while ago or brushed over it a

27:20

while ago. All the singing in

27:22

this Yes, but the suck

27:24

it the perfectly

27:26

harmonized beautiful suck it between

27:29

delay. It was magic

27:33

like that was and they even look around

27:35

nobody nobody's not because it was so frickin

27:37

good. But I don't pop up Sean knows

27:39

that every suspect in that house has been

27:41

eliminated except for three people Clisby Highway Harry

27:44

and Martin. Sean presents the

27:46

following three theories to the group. Was

27:48

it Clisby the butler who did

27:50

it? Was it Highway Harry? The

27:52

band's manager who did it? Or was it

27:54

Martin? The biographer who did it? Clisby was

27:57

actually the real killer. was

28:01

actually the real killer of Melinda. Rip realized

28:03

that all these years- We got the Sean

28:05

Vision of, which was his, how

28:07

did we do that? Oh yes. He

28:10

says, how did we, how did we, he orchestrated

28:12

the massive chandelier falling? Yes. And

28:15

Sean, and Sean Visions, them dancing. We

28:18

have a massive, massive series first here. Oh

28:20

my God. Tell us. So everyone needs, well,

28:23

I can't just, I can just blur it

28:25

out. It's going to cause havoc in- Nahum.

28:29

So kids pull the car over, put

28:31

the treadmill down to a comfortable walking speed,

28:34

climb down off the ladder

28:36

and do all the

28:38

things you need to do. Put the cat down, stop washing the

28:40

cat because it's the

28:42

very first time in the history of the series

28:45

that Sean refers to Gus

28:48

as Burton. Ha

28:51

ha. Really? Yeah. I mean,

28:54

I'm almost positive it's the first real Burton. I don't

28:56

think he's ever, ever referred to him as Burton. He's

29:00

a- It's very formal, well Burton. I'm

29:02

afraid I'm not getting a reading on that right

29:04

now. I love, I love it. I love it.

29:06

All right, everybody go back to your normal activities

29:08

now. All right. Now

29:11

you're gonna buy the cat off because cats don't like

29:13

being wet. Rip realized, wait,

29:15

this is going to be a good one. These years, all these

29:17

years later and came

29:19

back to confront, wait, hold on. Clifsby was

29:21

actually the real killer of Melinda. Rip realized

29:24

this years later and came back to confront

29:27

him, but he was-

29:29

Murdered. As

29:35

well. That was our last one, I think. So

29:38

after the police arrest Clifsby, the

29:40

paramedics arrive to take Kurt Smith

29:42

to the hospital. It's

29:45

gonna be okay. It's gonna be okay.

29:47

It's just a flesh wound. Except-

29:50

So we're on the, him on the stretcher in the, in

29:53

the driveway. Yeah. We heard Emma

29:55

the grail, the leopard grail. Paramedic

29:57

runs inside. I'm

30:00

a was a panther. I

30:02

beg my pardon. Emma the

30:04

panther. Emma the panther. Did I say that

30:06

part again? Yeah. That's okay.

30:09

Maybe I went on a horse ride and I'm a drinking wine as well this morning.

30:12

What? I wish. So

30:15

there's just the hint of Kurt

30:18

Smith, our dear friend Kurt Smith, being

30:20

mauled to death, fully

30:23

dead by Emma the panther. You

30:25

basically left me on a driveway,

30:27

on a gurney, with

30:29

a- Strapped down. Strapped down so

30:32

I couldn't escape with a panther

30:35

running freely and all ran

30:37

inside. I cannot believe we did you

30:39

dirty like that Kurt. I can't

30:41

either and I also, it's such a

30:43

trick we play because we're like yay

30:45

Kurt Smith is okay. He's

30:48

going to the hospital. He's going to be treated and

30:50

it's going to be great. It's just a flesh wound.

30:53

Not so fast. It's just a flesh

30:56

wound homage to Monty Python of course. Yes,

30:58

that's right. That's

31:01

what it was. I kept thinking I was like that's not from

31:03

Clue. Yeah, the flesh wound.

31:05

Just the flesh wound. It's just a flesh wound.

31:08

Yeah. All right. So

31:10

okay, we have fairing questions, but that is the actual episode and

31:12

I'm so glad because we can actually just talk to Kurt Smith

31:14

now because Kurt, I'm still stuck on

31:17

Deceptively Heavy. I have

31:19

one beautiful thing I

31:21

noticed. Tell. In the

31:23

credits. Oh yeah. This

31:26

episode is dedicated to the great Madeline Kahn.

31:29

Yeah. From the

31:31

film. And

31:34

also I have to say that

31:36

opening credits were super cool with

31:38

the cards. Yeah. Yeah. Really

31:41

neat. I thought that was cool

31:43

too. All right. So am I tripping or

31:45

did people get to pick different endings of

31:47

this show? They did. So that's

31:49

one of the questions. Yes. How did, first

31:52

of all, this is great. How did the Kurt

31:54

Smith cameo and side plot come to be? We

31:56

missed something kind of important though, Maggie. For

34:00

about six months, my

34:02

morning alarm was the opening guitar riff to

34:04

everybody wants to rule the world. If

34:09

you don't, if you haven't done this, I

34:11

highly recommend it because it's just the most pleasant

34:14

beautiful way to wake up. Oh my God, that's

34:16

so funny. It's strange. We are doing

34:18

an interview the other day about the power of

34:20

music while we were just an interview, but I

34:23

was talking about the power of music and how

34:25

and because that's three notes, basically, I mean, I

34:27

could even pick up guitar and play them too.

34:30

That three notes played in a certain order, at

34:32

a certain rhythm and can change

34:34

your mood entirely. It's,

34:37

it's crazy. Amazing. The music can

34:39

do that. Nothing moves

34:41

really early morning wakeups, extra

34:44

beautiful and special. All right.

34:46

So let's see. We know Tim

34:48

Curry wasn't available. He couldn't come back. Okay.

34:51

Um, you know, actually I think

34:53

in this, I might be speaking out of school,

34:55

but I believe the reason

34:58

he wasn't available. I know

35:00

he was ill at the time. That's what they said.

35:02

He was recovering from that

35:06

thing that happened to me. It was in all the papers. That's

35:09

correct. What, wait, what was that again? Tim

35:13

and I both had strokes, Maggie. Oh,

35:15

right. Oh, I didn't, I

35:17

had no idea. Um, yeah. Uh,

35:19

was he recovering at the time? Is

35:22

that why? I mean, I'm

35:24

just putting two together. I don't know. That's for absolute

35:26

positives. But I know that he was ill and he's

35:28

also a stroke survivor. So I'm thinking it might've been,

35:30

is there

35:32

something about just having the name Tim? It

35:37

could be. I know. I know. I

35:40

really brought it down. Didn't I? No, it's

35:42

okay. It's good though to know. I thought that

35:44

was the reason why too. I couldn't remember.

35:47

Um, all right. So what would be in your

35:49

secret room if you had a

35:51

secret room? Um,

35:55

wasn't this the, was it the episode with

35:58

DC? It's the chocolate.

36:00

room, of course, you know, the chocolate

36:02

room and the chocolate room dance was

36:04

just hilarious. What

36:06

would be in my secret room? I mean, you know, it's going

36:08

to be a guitar, it's going to be pictures,

36:12

photos, memories. I've always wanted

36:14

me and Francis,

36:16

my wife, have a, and

36:18

sort of a, an amusing,

36:20

it's been going on for years of the

36:22

fact that I complain that I don't have

36:24

a shed. A mansion?

36:27

Because every, yeah, because every English

36:29

TV show, like the guy has a shed.

36:31

Yes. The shed that he goes out the

36:33

back to do whatever he does in the

36:35

shed, which could be many different things. In

36:39

fact, even Francis' father had a shed where

36:42

he used to go and just potter around to get

36:44

away from his wife, I think at

36:46

the time from Francis' mother. But I've

36:48

always wanted a shed. Oh,

36:52

that's a, that's fun.

36:55

I want, I want a she shed. Linus

36:58

would be in my private, would be in

37:01

my private room, my secret room, wine, Starbucks

37:05

and music. And

37:08

that'd be my, that's

37:10

kind of what's in my office.

37:12

But anyway, Tim, what

37:15

would be in your secret room? Well, I mean, I

37:17

do have, have a shed. I mean, my back office

37:19

is, which isn't finished yet. Is

37:21

your secret room? Is my, which eventually will

37:23

become my podcast studio once we're

37:25

able to clean it up from years of work. Because I've

37:27

just hoarded it up from all the years of coming

37:30

back, going back forth to psych and I would just sort of shove stuff

37:32

in there. And then it's gotten, it's

37:34

becoming part of a storage rat's nest.

37:37

But I'm still trying to do it, but it's going to be, I

37:41

mean, sort of already there, my whiskey collection and

37:43

a bed for Mabel. Yeah,

37:47

that's what I would have. I love that for

37:49

my doggy. You have rich, many leather

37:51

bound books, which was a rich mahogany. Look

37:55

at this. Look at yourself, Kurt. It's so

37:57

cool. we

40:00

didn't play ball games. I sang

40:02

an Entertain You between one

40:04

take, which I actually did in the in the

40:06

first one as well. You did as well. I

40:08

was definitely not informed at the time because I

40:11

was in my truck or I think I and

40:15

what's the, was it the

40:17

director or the who played guitar with me when

40:19

I was doing it? I played head of the

40:21

hills. Probably Richard Coleman. Probably Richard. Richard, it was

40:23

Richard. Yeah. Yeah, because

40:26

half our crew was in the crew band.

40:28

So I'm, I do remember

40:30

hearing about the concert you gave

40:32

in the music room. It was actually the first

40:34

time during the whole episode that

40:38

Christopher Lloyd actually gave me his attention

40:40

and was smiling. Because

40:43

you know, he's kind of quite withdrawn and quite

40:45

quiet and, you know, kind of. He's

40:48

just like in his own. Yeah, he's in

40:50

his own world, which is, which is wonderful.

40:52

I wish I was in

40:54

my own conventions because yeah, working those

40:57

things are, it was the first time

40:59

I'd seen him kind of looking out

41:01

and like tapping his foot and sort

41:03

of smiling when I was

41:05

singing head of the hills. I made

41:07

Christopher Lloyd smile. That's

41:10

saying something. You, how could he not?

41:13

I would think there'd be something wrong with him

41:15

if he's, if Kurt is playing a concert and

41:17

I was the same. Remember I was getting like,

41:19

I got a text from James and I like,

41:21

it was almost too late. He was like, Kurt's

41:23

playing Kurt's playing. Get in here. And because

41:26

we were in our trailers, Tim, but

41:28

I do remember a coffee run at the time or

41:31

that. Yeah. We just like, we, I feel,

41:34

yes. But, you know, I got

41:36

a happy birthday on there today. You did have a

41:38

happy birthday on that set. Maggie what?

41:41

No, no, it's got a happy birthday song to

41:43

them by Kurt Smith on that set. Maggie. I

41:45

know. I'm so lucky. He also came to my

41:47

birthday party last year. I did.

41:49

Yeah. I carry Oki party.

41:51

We played games. He was.

41:53

I have this great

41:56

picture of Kurt and I cuddling on

41:58

the couch. It's very cute. I have so

42:00

many good pictures from this episode too. I can't wait

42:02

to share. Um, last question besides

42:04

mafia. Did we play any games? Uh, do we play

42:06

any board games like clue? I don't think we ever

42:09

played board games. I'm not going to, it was either

42:11

poker or mafia. Poker mafia. Yeah. But

42:14

then mafia took the place in poker. I think it did. Yeah,

42:17

definitely did. That's it. Those are

42:19

all of our stories and fan

42:21

questions. And my, this year has already been

42:23

made. I

42:26

have a question by the way. And I

42:28

can't remember who was I with that. I

42:31

did a photo shoot and Friday for you

42:33

mentioned you saw it. Um, because we had

42:35

a record coming up, but there was a.

42:37

Someone who was, oh, it was the wardrobe

42:39

lady who's friends with Steve. Frank. So

42:43

she's good friends with him. And

42:45

we were, and she was talking about all the psych episodes I was in

42:47

and everything. She'd seen them all. And

42:50

she was mentioning the pineapple. And

42:52

I'm like, Oh yes, the, you know, the universal fruit of welcome

42:55

machine knows, you know, where it comes from. And

42:57

I was like, no. It was cause

42:59

Steve used to work in the TQ room at

43:01

Disneyland. And I had, I did

43:03

not know that. So

43:05

Steve used to work in the TQ room at

43:08

Disneyland. So pineapples were in, they were on the

43:10

set in psych. The actual pineapple

43:12

runner was born out of an improv

43:14

on the pilot. The G. That

43:19

episode we don't talk about that, that

43:21

where he just like at the end of

43:23

a scene saw a pineapple cause Steve, they

43:25

were in on the set because of Steve,

43:28

but James was the one who chose to like, say, should

43:30

I slice this up for the road? And then every episode

43:33

since there has either been a pineapple. I

43:36

think that's right. That's right. Sean

43:40

2.0 was a lamp. I remember

43:43

that one. Yeah. Yeah. That's right.

43:46

Oh man. Anyway. Um, wow.

43:48

This was the most special.

43:50

Again, I don't remember anything other

43:52

than the birthday song. So I think it was

43:54

a really good episode of the pod. Um,

43:57

I just don't. I'm

44:00

still over here in sort

44:03

of. I'll tell you this, it's the only moment of this last

44:05

45 minutes or

44:07

half along the subcidus that made you tear up. It

44:10

did. I had real tears.

44:12

Those were real tears. I

44:14

was like, what is happening right now? I just want to

44:16

reach through the computer

44:18

and hug you both because today

44:20

has been so special. Today has

44:22

been, these

44:24

two handsome men on this pod have

44:27

made my birthday. I got a trail

44:29

ride with a wine tasting and then

44:31

Kurt Smith saying serenaded me with a

44:34

happy birthday song. Like I'm done, I'm

44:36

done. You can have a

44:38

nap. You can have a nap. You ended that particular number

44:40

year really damn well, Maggie. I

44:42

what? You ended that

44:45

number year really well. Yeah, yeah,

44:47

yeah. We're not discussing what

44:49

number year it is. Actually, no, I'm going to

44:51

say you've already ended it because it's passion for

44:53

that. You are starting off this.

44:56

And I already told you, I've told

44:58

you, I've texted you 17 times in the last 48 hours. You

45:00

sure have. How about you sure have?

45:03

You sure have. No, I'm kidding. Stop texting

45:05

me. No, I'm just kidding. I like, you

45:07

would literally have though made my birthday. It

45:09

was, you've reminded me. It's, he's

45:11

Tim has been so like wanting to make sure

45:13

that I have a special birthday that he's like,

45:15

check. He's been checking in and it means so

45:18

much. It's actually great. Look, it's so great that

45:20

look who wants to say hi. Come.

45:23

Well, the overall theme has been how, oh,

45:26

buddy, my nephew,

45:29

the overall theme has been how amazing this year

45:31

coming is going to be for you. Going

45:33

to be great. Professionally. And I'm 44. I

45:36

have no problem saying it. I'm like, I

45:38

don't even know how it happened, but it's

45:40

here. You are. Okay, but this is the

45:43

influence that Maggie lost when I saw you. I

45:46

am looking, I was looking up angel numbers and

45:48

setting her info about the numerology

45:50

of 44. What have I

45:52

done to you? What

45:54

have I done to you? You were sending me

45:56

that stuff. And I was like, I

45:59

haven't even. you all

46:01

of my numerology or my

46:03

number updates since I've been here and

46:05

you were already sending me like the

46:08

meaning of. Yeah, before you sent me

46:10

your, your, your room number numerology, I'd

46:12

send you your, your birthday number. Yeah.

46:14

But in fairness, you left me the

46:16

most beautiful voice message, voice note about

46:19

my, my 55th. Yes. For four, four

46:23

and five, five. Yeah. Look at

46:25

us. Look at us. I'm

46:27

not, I'm not, I'm not quite

46:29

six, six. I'm not quite six.

46:32

No, no. The thing is you

46:34

look younger than both of us. Um,

46:36

and I wish you do. Yes.

46:39

Even if you are deceptively heavy, um,

46:42

you look very young, deceptively heavy

46:44

and deceptively old. Not even. I

46:46

love you both

46:50

so much. This was such a

46:52

treat to do on my birthday trip.

46:55

And Kurt, thank you so much for

46:57

being with us today. And my pleasure

46:59

as always being so flexible as well.

47:01

And Tim, thanks for making this episode

47:03

special this day special. I'm just, I'm

47:06

going to go drink more wine now.

47:10

Go drink some wine. But before you drink

47:12

the wine, go find your glasses. I got

47:14

to find my glasses. Cause looking for them

47:16

after you've drunk the wine is not a

47:18

good idea. Okay. I love you both. Go

47:20

enjoy the rest of these days. Thank

47:24

you all so much for listening to this

47:27

episode of the psychologist are in. We, uh,

47:30

we love you so much. We all love each

47:32

other a hundred episodes.

47:35

I mean, we're so lucky anyway.

47:38

So that's just a, but thank you

47:40

all for listening. Thank you all for

47:42

watching. Thank you all for always supporting

47:44

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47:47

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47:49

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47:51

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