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control. Panic sweeps the Democratic

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Party as top officials scramble

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President Biden's debate performance. When

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you get knocked down, you get back up.

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President Biden is compromised, but most importantly,

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his policies are not working. And Jim

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Clyburn said, if you like what's going

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on, you're gonna get more of it.

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70% of the people in this country think

18:12

we're going in the wrong direction. The Democrats

18:14

keep calling President Trump a felon.

18:16

Well, be careful what you wish for. I

18:18

expect there will be investigations

18:20

of Biden's criminality at the border.

18:22

If I'm a mayor, I should

18:24

be worried that somebody's gonna come

18:26

after you because you've abused the

18:28

parole statute. The Hunter Biden laptop,

18:30

all 51 of the people

18:33

who signed the letter saying the

18:35

laptop was fake and Russian disinformation,

18:37

hope somebody looks at you because

18:39

that's election interference. So this country

18:42

is gonna have a resetting here

18:44

and using the Biden standard of

18:46

glorifying political prosecutions, Pandora's

18:48

box has been open. Whether he steps

18:51

down or not, accountability is coming to

18:53

him. I wanna get to a couple

18:55

of important issues, sir, but you just

18:57

warned of retribution. Yeah. I

19:01

warned that the Pandora's box opened by

19:04

the Democrats is gonna be applied here.

19:06

There should be an investigation, America's in

19:08

Biden for abusing the parole statute that

19:10

led to the burner of Lake and

19:13

Raleigh. They let the accused killer out

19:15

because of lack of capacity. They paroled

19:17

him illegally. I think the criminality of

19:19

the Biden border policy should be looked

19:21

at. We should look at how people

19:24

lied about the Hunter Biden laptop being

19:26

fake when it was real. Yeah, I

19:28

expect people to look at that. You

19:30

had a January 6th committee looking at

19:33

what happened on January 6th. I hope

19:35

there'll be a committee looking at border

19:37

policies have led to the rape and

19:39

murder of lots of Americans, people from

19:42

18 to 30 dying by fentanyl poisoning

19:44

coming through a broken border. Yeah, I

19:46

hope that does happen. All right, I

19:48

wanna ask you about the Mideast because

19:51

you have been working to try to

19:53

negotiate a defense agreement with Saudi Arabia

19:56

that could pave the way for a broader

19:58

normalization deal between them and Israel. The

20:00

last time you were on the show, you told

20:02

me that you want to help President Biden get

20:04

this done and that we're running out of time.

20:06

Where does that stand now? I

20:10

am still trying to help President Biden and

20:13

his team to have Saudi Arabia normalize with

20:15

Israel. What needs to happen here is the

20:17

war needs to lessen in terms of military

20:20

conflict in Gaza. I think that's going

20:22

to wind down and they need to

20:24

negotiate an answer to the Palestinian question.

20:26

And I think the crown prince would

20:28

recognize Israel building on the Abraham Accords.

20:30

President Trump said he wanted to end

20:32

these wars as quick as possible. It

20:35

may be possible between now and the

20:37

election to come up with a solution

20:40

in Gaza and the West Bank that not

20:42

only would end the war but allow Israel

20:44

to live in peace and the Palestinians have

20:46

a more hopeful life and have the Saudi

20:48

Arabia recognize Israel, which would be the end

20:50

of the Arab-Israeli conflict. I'd like to help

20:52

in that regard, but I am urging the

20:55

American people to listen to what Congressman

20:57

Clyburn said. He thinks President

20:59

Biden has been a great president. He had

21:01

a bad night. No, he had a bad

21:03

night. He's had a terrible presidency. If

21:06

you want more of the same, broken

21:09

borders, a world on fire, out

21:11

of control inflation, then you need to

21:13

reelect President Biden. If you want

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to fundamentally change and go back to the policies

21:18

of Trump, then you need to vote

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for him. Is that clear? Senator

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Lindsey Graham, thank you so much for your time this morning.

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I really appreciate it. Thank

21:26

you. Thank you. So,

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has President Biden managed to stop any

21:31

of the hand-wringing in his own party?

21:34

My panel is next. With

21:45

the COVID, dealing

21:47

with everything we have to do with,

21:50

uh, what if

21:55

we finally beat Medicare? I don't walk as easy

21:57

as I used to. I don't speak as smooth

21:59

as than I used to. I

22:01

don't debate as well as I used to. But

22:04

I know what I do know. I

22:07

know how to tell the truth. Welcome

22:10

back to State of the Union. Start

22:12

contrast, as you saw there, between the

22:15

Joe Biden on the debate stage and

22:17

the high-energy Biden at his post-debate rally.

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My panel joins me now. Hello,

22:21

everybody. Kate, I'm

22:23

obviously going to start with you, because you worked

22:25

for a very long time for President

22:28

Biden. What is the

22:31

reality of what is now happening behind

22:33

the scenes? Well, I think

22:35

the reality is that the race has

22:37

not fundamentally changed. I think there's universal

22:39

agreement. It wasn't a great night for

22:41

Joe Biden. He said as much. But

22:43

what we see in all the data

22:45

that has emerged since Thursday is the

22:47

fundamental head-to-head hasn't shifted. People are not

22:49

suddenly moving to Trump. In fact, what

22:51

we've seen is that people felt like

22:53

Trump's arguments were not persuasive.

22:55

They were concerned about what he said about

22:57

January 6. They were concerned about him saying

22:59

he wouldn't accept the results of the election.

23:01

So fundamentally, on the places Donald Trump is

23:03

politically vulnerable, he really did himself a huge

23:05

disservice on Thursday night. And so I think

23:07

for Biden now, the task is to go

23:09

out, do what he did in North Carolina,

23:11

show that energy, show that it was just

23:14

one bad night. Every campaign recovers from one

23:16

bad night. And I think you see it

23:18

in, you know, you have the Biden campaign

23:20

put out their fundraising numbers. They've raised $33

23:22

million since the debate. 26

23:24

million was grassroots, including, I

23:26

think half of that was first-time donors. They're

23:28

seeing people show up at offices around the

23:30

country to volunteer. I think people were motivated

23:32

and energized by what they saw from

23:35

Trump. They don't want him to be in office. And

23:37

I think the Biden campaign's now gonna harness that energy.

23:40

Look, if you have a fight with your boyfriend, you

23:42

don't get over it in one night. You get mad

23:44

for a couple of days. And I think that's what's

23:47

happening in the Democratic Party. Joe Biden had a bad

23:49

night on debate night. And I don't think it's wrong

23:51

to, and I don't think this

23:53

is what Kate is doing, but I don't

23:55

think it's wrong to disparage people who are

23:57

concerned after that debate. Because the ultimate underlying

24:00

issue... what their concern is that they really

24:02

want to beat Donald Trump, and they know

24:04

the threat that Donald Trump plays. I

24:06

will say, though, the folks who are saying

24:08

that Joe Biden should drop out of the

24:10

race are not the people that actually will

24:13

be determinant of the outcome of the election.

24:15

I think the debate was actually more of

24:17

a couch pusher than a candidate switcher. I

24:19

don't think people watched that debate and said,

24:21

I'm not going to vote for Joe Biden

24:23

anymore, I'm going to vote for Donald Trump.

24:25

Because for every misstep that or misspeaking that

24:28

Joe Biden had, Donald Trump had a lie

24:30

to combat it. And so the American

24:32

public is like, I don't want either

24:34

of those. So this is actually where

24:36

the campaigns matter. You are going to

24:38

actually have to get in communities, get

24:40

on the phones, get indoors, place your

24:42

ads, work with groups on the ground

24:44

to get voters to stay off the

24:46

couch, to be convinced that Joe Biden

24:48

can do that job and that Donald

24:50

Trump is a true threat to our

24:52

democracy. What matters is voters. You

24:55

are our pollster here. What are you hearing?

24:58

The idea that this is just one bad

25:00

night, that voters are going to be asked

25:02

not to believe what they saw with their

25:04

own eyes on Thursday is incomprehensible to me.

25:07

The fact of the matter is in

25:09

January Pew Research Center found only 29

25:12

percent of Americans thought that Joe Biden

25:14

had the mental acuity to be president.

25:16

And yet, even then in

25:18

January, this was still a close race. And

25:20

so what is absolutely unfathomable

25:23

to me is that what felt

25:25

like an enormous political earthquake on

25:27

Thursday night where America got to

25:29

see with their own

25:31

eyes what is happening inside

25:34

this White House outside of, as

25:36

one Biden staffer told a reporter, between the hours

25:38

of 10 a.m. and 4 p.m., what

25:41

we saw was horrifying and yet the polls

25:44

might not change because there's a chance that

25:46

voters already went into Thursday thinking, I'm

25:48

concerned that this is who Joe Biden

25:50

already is and they have already made

25:53

that calculation. Yeah, I think you can't wish

25:55

it away. I think you can't call it a bad

25:57

night. I don't think you can compare it to anybody's

25:59

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