0:00

Angie has made it easier than ever to

0:02

hire high-quality pros to get all your home

0:04

service jobs done well. Whether it's

0:07

routine maintenance, an emergency repair, or

0:09

a dream project, Angie lets you

0:11

compare quotes from multiple local pros,

0:13

browse homeowner reviews, and even book

0:15

a service instantly. Angie's been

0:17

connecting people with skilled pros for nearly 30

0:19

years. So the next

0:21

time you have a home project, bring it

0:23

to Angie to get your job done well.

0:25

Download the free Angie mobile app today or

0:28

visit angie.com. Hi,

0:33

I'm Angie Hicks, co-founder of Angie.

0:35

When you use Angie for your

0:38

home projects, you know all your

0:40

jobs will be done well. Roof

0:42

repair, done well. Kitchen sink install, Kitchen

0:44

sink install, done well. Deck

0:46

upgrades, done well. Electrical upgrade,

0:48

done well. Angie's been connecting

0:50

homeowners with skilled pros for

0:53

nearly 30 years, so we

0:55

know the difference between done

0:57

and done well. Hire high-quality,

0:59

certified pros at angie.com. Big

1:08

tent party? Democrats are set to

1:10

celebrate as their convention kicks

1:13

off tomorrow with a passing of the torch.

1:15

We take the next step. Thank

1:17

you, Joe. How will Vice President

1:19

Kamala Harris put her own stamp on

1:21

the convention? And is Chicago

1:24

ready for thousands of protesters? Illinois

1:26

Governor J.B. Pritzker is here. And

1:29

head to head, new polling shows Harris

1:31

closing the gap with Trump and putting

1:33

new states potentially in play as she

1:35

works to shore up issues where voters

1:37

favor Republicans. Everyday prices are

1:39

too high. What's the state

1:41

of the race? Democratic House Minority Leader

1:44

Hakeem Jeffries is next. Plus, center stage.

1:46

Donald Trump hits Harris over her economic

1:48

message, but he doesn't stop there. I'm

1:51

a better looking person. As soon as

1:53

she laughs, the election's over. Will that

1:55

help him seize back the spotlight? New

1:58

Hampshire Republican Governor Chris Senouni. joins me.

2:07

Hello I'm Vic Tapper at the Union

2:10

Center in Chicago, site of the Democratic

2:12

National Convention where the state of our

2:14

union is rebooting. Tomorrow,

2:16

right here, Democrats will kick off

2:18

their four-day convention to officially make

2:20

Vice President Kamala Harris their party

2:22

nominee and lean into the optimism

2:24

Democrats feel about her candidacy with

2:26

the theme quote, for the people

2:29

for our future, unquote. A major national

2:31

poll out this morning shows Harris with

2:33

a narrow lead over Trump outside the

2:35

polls margin of error for the very

2:37

first time since she entered the race

2:39

four weeks ago today. And

2:42

a brand new CNN analysis finds

2:44

a new potential path to victory

2:47

for the Democrats through the Sunbelt

2:49

states of Nevada, Arizona, North Carolina

2:51

and Georgia. But behind

2:53

me this week Harris will try to

2:55

build on her momentum in what is

2:57

basically a neck and neck race with

2:59

remarks by top Democrats from Barack Obama

3:01

to Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton and President

3:03

Biden who will appear with

3:05

Harris on stage tomorrow night at a

3:08

much different convention than was originally planned

3:10

for him. While Donald

3:12

Trump tries to keep some of the spotlight on himself

3:14

this week with his own events last night at a

3:16

rally in Pennsylvania he made

3:18

numerous personal attacks against Harris, which we'll

3:21

get into later, but he did also

3:23

make some policy arguments that perhaps some

3:25

voters may find persuasive. You

3:29

say she's going to lower the cost of food

3:31

and housing starting on day one, but

3:33

day one for Kamala was

3:36

three and a half years ago. So

3:40

why didn't she do it then? Joining

3:44

me now Democratic leader of the House

3:46

of Representatives Hakeem Jeffries of New York,

3:48

leader Jeffries thanks for joining us. Your

3:50

party's convention is set to kick off

3:52

tomorrow. Do you think that the

3:54

Democratic Party is in a better place now

3:56

with Vice President Harris at the top of

3:58

the ticket? than it was with President

4:01

Biden at the top of the ticket. And have you

4:03

talked to President Biden since he dropped out of the

4:05

race four weeks ago? I

4:08

have talked to President Biden, and let

4:10

me simply say that President Biden will

4:13

go down in American history as one

4:15

of the most consequential presidents of all

4:17

time. He made a very selfless decision

4:19

to pass the torch to Vice President

4:22

Harris, who's a courageous leader, a compassionate

4:24

leader, and a common sense leader, and

4:26

she's ready, she's willing, she's able to

4:28

get the job done. There's a lot

4:30

of excitement, a lot of enthusiasm, and

4:33

a lot of energy with Kamala Harris

4:35

and Tim Walz at the top of

4:37

the ticket, and we're looking forward to

4:39

a very joyful Democratic National Convention. Vice

4:43

President Harris unveiled some of her economic platform

4:45

on Friday. One key

4:48

platform plank was her plan to

4:50

ban price gouging for grocery prices.

4:53

Jason Furman, who was the top economist for

4:55

President Obama, said that her plan is not

4:57

a good idea. The

4:59

good case scenario is price gouging is a

5:01

message, not a reality. The bad case scenario

5:03

is that this is a real proposal. You'll

5:05

end up with bigger shortages, less supply, and

5:08

ultimately risk higher prices and worse outcomes for

5:10

consumers if you try to enforce this in

5:12

a real way, which I don't know if

5:14

they would or wouldn't do. Do

5:17

you plan to support Vice President Harris's

5:19

plan to ban price gouging? Kamala

5:24

Harris has articulated a very important

5:26

plan to make sure that we

5:28

are lowering costs for everyday Americans,

5:30

that we are ending price gouging

5:32

throughout the country, and that, of

5:34

course, we are growing the middle

5:36

class and making sure that everyday

5:38

Americans can get ahead. So

5:41

we as House Democrats look forward to

5:43

working with Kamala Harris to

5:45

drive costs down. We've done some of

5:47

that work in terms of driving down

5:49

the high price of life-saving prescription drugs

5:51

for millions of Americans, including capping the

5:53

price of insulin at $35 We've

5:57

lowered the cost of internet availability.

6:00

and in several other areas, but

6:02

we recognize that there is more

6:04

work that needs to be done

6:06

because there are far too many

6:08

Americans who are living paycheck to

6:10

paycheck, struggling each and every month,

6:12

and we've got to drive down

6:14

costs, including the cost of groceries.

6:18

Well, the Washington Post editorial board said

6:21

blaming big business or corporations was a

6:23

quote, gambit. The San Francisco

6:25

Federal Reserve found little evidence that

6:28

price gouging was the main culprit

6:30

behind inflation, floating supply chains and

6:32

production costs instead, isn't part

6:34

of the problem here when it comes

6:37

to high prices and inflation. The fact

6:39

that you and your colleagues on Capitol

6:41

Hill, along with both President Trump and

6:43

President Biden, infuse the economy with perhaps

6:45

too much cash because of the pandemic.

6:50

The challenge is that President

6:52

Biden and Vice President Harris

6:55

inherited three different catastrophes from

6:57

the prior president at the same

7:00

time. There was a public health

7:02

catastrophe connected to the COVID-19 pandemic.

7:04

There was an economic catastrophe that

7:06

resulted from the shutdown of our

7:09

economy. And of course, there was

7:11

a democracy catastrophe related to the

7:13

January 6 violent assault

7:15

on the Capitol and cited by the

7:17

former president as part of the effort

7:19

to halt the peaceful transfer of power.

7:22

And so in the context of

7:24

the economic catastrophe, the shutdown of

7:26

the economy had consequences. And

7:29

when demand came back, the supply chain

7:31

needed to, of course, catch up. And

7:34

so that is a process that has

7:36

been underway that has triggered an inflationary

7:39

environment. But it's fair to say that

7:41

part of the challenge that many everyday

7:43

Americans have felt is

7:46

that price gouging is

7:48

occurring by some bad

7:50

actors. And it's reasonable for

7:52

us to look into how we can stop

7:54

it from occurring. Vice President

7:56

Harris is simply saying we have to

7:58

make sure that We're here in Chicago

8:01

where Democrats are expecting tens of thousands

8:03

of anti-Israel protesters

8:06

who have been calling President Biden, quote, genocide

8:08

Joe for months. An

8:12

effort called Abandon Biden says that they

8:14

are not yet targeting Vice President Harris,

8:18

but a spokesperson told Reuters, quote, the clock

8:20

is ticking and our patience is running out.

8:22

Do you see a policy difference between President

8:24

Biden and Vice President Harris? When it

8:26

comes to Israel and Gaza, or President Biden and

8:28

Vice President Harris have been working hard to try

8:30

to bring about a peace

8:34

agreement that has been on the table over the last

8:36

few weeks to try to get that to closure. It's

8:42

a very necessary thing to accomplish. It will allow

8:44

for, of course, a ceasefire to be put in

8:46

place for the hostages to be returned to the

8:48

United States. Those

8:53

are both Israeli hostages and American

8:55

hostages for us to surge humanitarian

8:57

assistance into Gaza so we can

8:59

help out Palestinian civilians who are

9:01

in harm's way through no fault

9:03

of their own. And

9:06

also, of course, to lay the foundation

9:09

for a just and lasting peace between

9:11

a safe and secure Israel and the

9:13

opportunity for the Palestinian people to receive

9:15

the dignity and the self determination that

9:18

they deserve. That's what is on the

9:20

table right now. And

9:24

we are squarely behind that effort

9:26

led by President Biden joined by

9:28

Vice President Harris and of course

9:30

supported by Secretary Blinken, who is

9:32

in the region right now to

9:34

try to get this peace agreement

9:36

done. Former

9:39

President Trump is making a big push to get black voters

9:41

to come to his side. I

9:44

wanted to get your reaction to

9:46

something President Trump said recently about

9:49

Vice President Harris and her race

9:52

at an event for black journalists. Take a listen. black

10:00

and now she wants to be known as black. So

10:02

I don't know is she Indian or is she black? What

10:07

was your response when you heard that? It

10:12

was a very ignorant statement made by

10:14

the former president but we should not

10:16

be surprised because this is someone who's

10:18

often engaged in racial

10:21

arson to try to inflame

10:23

passions amongst the American people

10:25

in a very unproductive way.

10:27

Kamala Harris and Tim Walls

10:29

are running a forward-looking joyful

10:31

campaign. The difference between

10:34

Kamala Harris and Donald

10:36

Trump is as wide as the

10:38

Grand Canyon. Kamala Harris

10:40

is about unity. Donald Trump is

10:42

about division. Kamala Harris is about

10:44

the future. Donald Trump represents the

10:46

past. Kamala Harris will build an

10:48

economy that allows the middle class

10:50

and everyday Americans to get ahead.

10:53

Donald Trump wants to go back

10:55

to an economy where his main

10:57

emphasis is big tax cuts for

10:59

the wealthy, the well-off and the

11:01

well-connected. So we're going to continue

11:03

to be part of led by

11:05

Kamala Harris and Tim Walls a

11:07

joyful forward-looking campaign that brings the

11:09

American people together that is designed

11:11

to deliver real results for everyday

11:14

Americans and solve problems for hard

11:16

working American taxpayers. We'll leave the

11:18

chaos, the division and the extremism

11:20

to Donald Trump and the

11:22

Republicans. Donald

11:24

Trump and his allies are already starting

11:27

to lay the groundwork to contest the

11:29

election results in November. Are

11:31

you confident that a Republican-led house

11:33

will certify the 2024 election

11:36

in January? I'm

11:40

confident that we're going to do everything that we

11:42

need to do over the next few months to

11:44

make sure that House Democrats take back the majority

11:46

so that the American people do not have to

11:48

encounter that question. It is a

11:51

reality that far too many of my extreme

11:53

MAGA Republican colleagues in the House

11:56

have engaged in election

11:58

denial. conspiracy theories and

12:01

have tried to undermine the very

12:03

fabric of our democracy and the

12:05

peaceful transfer of power. By the

12:07

way, Jake, that's what Trump's Project

12:09

2025 is all about. The

12:12

extreme mega Republicans want total

12:14

control over the lives of

12:16

the American people, total control

12:18

over our government and total

12:20

control over our democracy. And

12:23

we've got to stop it from happening. Your

12:27

hot team, Jeffries of New York, thank you so much for joining

12:29

us this morning. I'll see you here in Chicago when you get

12:31

here. Thanks,

12:34

Jake. See you in Chicago. How

12:37

will Vice President Kamala Harris put her

12:39

stamp on this convention and will protesters

12:41

in Chicago escalate? The governor, top Democrat

12:43

J.B. Kpritzker, will join me right here

12:45

next. And what does this new raft

12:47

of polling show us about momentum in

12:50

the presidential race? That's coming up. Hi,

12:57

I'm Angie Hicks, co-founder of Angie, and one

12:59

thing I've learned is that you buy a

13:01

house, but you make it a home. Because

13:04

with every fix, update, and renovation, it

13:06

becomes a little more your own. So

13:08

you need all your jobs done well.

13:10

For nearly 30 years, Angie has helped

13:12

millions of homeowners hire skilled pros for

13:15

the projects that matter. From

13:17

plumbing to electrical, roof repair to deck upgrades.

13:19

So leave it to the pros who will

13:21

get your jobs done well. Hire

13:24

high-quality, certified pros at angie.com.

13:26

They say opposites attract. That's why the Sleep Number

13:28

Smart Bed is the best bed for couples. You

13:30

can each choose what's right for you, whenever you

13:32

like. You like a bed that feels firm but

13:35

they want soft? Sleep Number does that. You

13:37

want to sleep cooler while they like to feel

13:39

warm? Sleep Number does that too. Find

13:42

the bed that's for both of you, only at a

13:44

Sleep Number store. Sleep better together. J.D.

13:47

Power ranks Sleep Number number one in

13:49

customer satisfaction with mattresses purchased in store.

13:52

And now, Sleep Number Smart Bed starting at $999. Prices

13:55

higher in Alaska and Hawaii. Prices higher in Alaska and Hawaii.

13:57

For J.D. Power 2023 award information, visit our website at www.jdpower.com. at

14:00

jdpower.com/awards only at a sleep

14:02

number store or sleep number.com.

14:19

It's tough to explain the 1990s to

14:21

people, but that was the last democratic

14:23

convention in Chicago in 1996. And

14:25

that was a version of the Macarena.

14:28

We're inside the United Center. Will my next

14:30

guest kick off a round of the Macarena

14:32

here this week? Illinois Governor JB Pritzker joins

14:34

us now. That was a rhetorical

14:36

question. I'm assuming you're not going to be doing

14:38

the Macarena here. I was doing the Macarena here

14:40

in 1996, just to be clear. I'm

14:43

just old enough to have it. And there's no footage

14:45

of it, though. That's how we know. I know that

14:47

because you won your election.

14:49

Exactly. Thank God. Never would

14:52

have made it this far. How will

14:54

this convention be different with Vice President

14:56

Harris's nominee than President Biden? Well,

14:58

remember, first of all, you were talking about

15:01

a reelection nomination, a renomination, and now you're

15:03

talking about something completely different. Right. We've got

15:05

I mean, this is a candidate who's energized

15:07

the party in a way that I haven't

15:09

seen certainly since oh, eight. And

15:12

when I think about I've been to every

15:14

convention since I was able to vote. And

15:16

I can say I've not felt this kind

15:18

of energy and electricity at any convention other

15:20

than the one for Barack Obama. So to

15:23

have it here in Chicago and, you know, the fact

15:26

that people are coming here, they're calling a number

15:28

of calls I've gotten from people late in the

15:30

game here saying, God, now I want to come.

15:32

Oh, is that right? So the

15:34

the there was the 96 convention in Chicago,

15:37

obviously, another one that's looms large is the

15:39

68 convention here in

15:41

Chicago was overshadowed by violent clashes

15:43

between police and protesters then protesting

15:45

the Vietnam War. This time, thousands

15:48

of anti-Israel protesters are expected to

15:50

descend on the city. How worried

15:52

are you about them disrupting the

15:54

actual convention, including the uncommitted delegates

15:58

inside the convention hall? reporters

16:00

like to harken back to 68 because you know there's

16:02

a lot of good footage you get to point to.

16:04

We also harken back to 96. You

16:06

did you got the macarena in there

16:08

but but the fact is it's a

16:10

whole different ballgame. Here we are you

16:12

know 56 years later we've

16:14

got a very very

16:16

different situation the Democratic Party. The

16:19

Democratic Party honestly is has coalesced

16:21

around this candidate that was not

16:23

the case in 1968. We've got

16:25

policing is all different now and

16:27

we've got technology at work and

16:29

really the protesters are protesting something

16:31

that is very far away from

16:33

here very important but it's not

16:35

about people getting drafted from here

16:37

going abroad so it's a

16:39

whole different situation and honestly I expect that

16:41

we're gonna have peaceful protests we're gonna protect

16:43

the protesters but also protect all the people

16:46

visiting 50,000 people coming to Chicago

16:48

and the residents of Chicago. So the plan's

16:50

been in place for a year and a

16:52

quarter now already we're gonna execute on that

16:54

plan the next four days. Certainly most of

16:56

the protesters I'm sure intend to be peaceful

16:58

but there are some groups that are making

17:00

it clear they do not want to be

17:02

peaceful. There's one called Behind Enemy Lines for

17:04

example. A leftist anti-imperialist protest

17:07

group calling on its supporters to

17:09

shut down the DNC urging them

17:11

to make bruises from Chicago police

17:13

batons the 2024 back-to-school fall

17:16

fashion. You guys prepared

17:18

for that? If there are troublemakers they're gonna

17:20

get arrested and they're gonna get convicted but

17:23

the fact is that the vast majority of people

17:25

who are protesting and we've seen this before are

17:27

you know peaceful protesters that want to have their

17:29

voices heard they're gonna be heard no doubt about

17:32

it and we're gonna protect that. Vice

17:34

President Harris laid out some of her economic priorities

17:36

this week focusing on the high cost of living

17:38

in the United States. Here's how the Washington Post

17:40

editorial board responded, unfortunately instead

17:42

of delivering a substantial plan the

17:44

Post wrote she squandered the moment

17:46

on populist gimmicks unquote even

17:49

some democratic economists say her plans to

17:51

target corporate price gouging and eliminate taxes

17:53

on tips likely would not actually bring

17:55

prices down or significantly help

17:57

low-income workers. Do you what do you think

18:00

about these two policies she's proposed? Well,

18:02

I just want to remind you that, you know,

18:04

raising the child tax credit $6,000, that

18:07

is not a gimmick. That's a real thing that

18:09

helps real families across the United States. Wasn't one of

18:11

the two, I name. I understand, but I mean, there

18:13

are a whole host of proposals that she has put

18:15

forward. I know you'd like to go to the one

18:17

or two, but I just want to say that the

18:20

whole panoply of

18:22

them, honestly, is good for

18:24

average, everyday, working Americans. That's

18:27

what she's going for, is focused on the

18:29

challenges that they have experienced. And yeah, there

18:31

has been price gouging. And of course, there

18:33

are economists who say, well, that's not really

18:35

true. There's been inflation. But

18:37

you've heard corporations talk about how

18:39

they raised prices, even above what

18:41

the inflationary amount would be. And

18:44

you saw that their profits went up significantly

18:46

during that time period. So I

18:49

think it's not unreasonable for her to

18:51

say that the federal government should do

18:53

what many states have already done, which

18:55

is focus on that price gouging. And

18:57

then don't forget, she's also focused on

18:59

middle class housing. It is impossible in

19:01

this country right now with interest rates

19:03

as high as they are for people

19:05

to buy a house. And until

19:07

that amount goes down, until the six

19:10

plus percent interest rate

19:12

that people are paying goes down, they

19:15

need help from the federal government. And that's what she

19:17

is offering. And I think middle class and

19:20

working class people across the United States appreciate

19:22

that she's thinking about them. Everything

19:24

is coming out of the Trump administration,

19:26

the Trump campaign about helping working class

19:28

and middle class Americans. You were all

19:31

in on Biden's candidacy right until the

19:33

moment he dropped out. I want you

19:35

to take a listen to what Biden's

19:37

former chief of staff, Ron Klain, told

19:39

my colleague Anderson Cooper earlier this week.

19:43

I do think the president was pushed

19:47

by public calls from elected officials for

19:49

him to drop out, from donors calling

19:52

him to drop out. And

19:54

I think that was wrong. The president had won the

19:56

nomination fair and square. 14

19:58

million people went and voted for him. him and the vice

20:01

president's vice president. Was

20:04

it wrong for the Democrats to effectively

20:06

push Biden out? Well,

20:08

I want to remind you that, I mean, there is

20:10

an enormous amount of reverence for Joe Biden. For

20:13

50 years, he has fought for the American people

20:15

and for working families. And so,

20:17

you know, as we were approaching this convention, I

20:20

think there was a, you know, everybody was looking at

20:22

the polls and seeing that there were some real challenges

20:25

ahead. There is a danger on the

20:27

horizon here, and that is that Donald Trump

20:29

might become president again. And

20:31

it's a danger that a majority of Americans will reject. But

20:34

they need to know that who they're voting

20:36

for is somebody that they can be excited

20:38

and electrified by. And

20:41

I think they weren't feeling that about Joe Biden. Having

20:43

said that, this is a man who's accomplished more in

20:45

three and a half years than most presidents get done

20:47

in eight. So we're going to

20:49

see a celebration of him. We're also

20:51

going to see how Kamala Harris has

20:53

brought the party together with Tim Walz,

20:55

by the way, a good friend of

20:58

mine and a fellow Midwestern governor, you

21:00

know, who's an everyday guy and somebody

21:02

that everybody relates to. So I think

21:04

that collection, that pair, it has turned

21:06

this place into, well, frankly, it'll

21:08

be like a rock concert. I think people are

21:10

going to be cheering and pretty excited. Before we

21:12

go, I wanted to give you a chance to respond

21:14

to some brutal attacks from your fellow Democratic governors.

21:16

New York Governor Kathy Hochul tweeted a picture of

21:18

some, I guess this is supposed to be deep dish

21:21

pizza. He said, seriously, what

21:23

is this? And

21:25

Governor Whitmer of Michigan offered to give you

21:27

a lift back to Michigan, quote, if you

21:29

want to see some winning sports teams. Ouch.

21:32

Well, all I can say

21:34

is that there were a lot of years where

21:36

Detroit had no winners. We've

21:39

had an awful lot of championships right in this arena,

21:41

I might add, in the United Center. And

21:43

of course, on the pizza front, I mean, there's no

21:46

better pizza than Chicago. It's not really pizza, right? It's

21:49

more like an actual pass Philly. You don't know pizza

21:51

from any. No, let's

21:53

be clear. Let's be clear. We

21:56

know pizza and she's showing a picture of something apparently

21:58

she made in her own Come

22:00

to Chicago, experience deep dish pizza. We know it.

22:02

It's like a swimming pool of cheese is really

22:04

what it is. I'm not really sure. And bread.

22:06

Don't judge a book by its cover. And I've

22:09

eaten that souffle before. In any case, good to

22:12

see you. I hope you have a great convention,

22:14

and I hope it's a peaceful, nonviolent convention. Thank

22:16

you. Thank you so much. Coming up next, how

22:18

Donald Trump is hoping to stay in the spotlight

22:20

this week despite the Democratic convention, Governor Chris Sununu

22:23

of New Hampshire joins me. Next. Have

22:25

you heard her laugh? That

22:32

is the laugh of a crazy

22:35

person. As soon as she laughs,

22:37

the election's over. I'm a better

22:39

looking person than Kamala.

22:41

It was a coup of a president.

22:43

This was a coup, and they stole

22:45

the presidency of the United States from

22:47

them. Welcome

22:50

back to State of the Union. Donald Trump

22:52

there veering off his economic remarks at

22:54

a rally in Pennsylvania last night, joining us

22:57

now, Trump supporter and the Republican governor

22:59

of the great state of New Hampshire,

23:01

Chris Sununu. Governor Sununu, you just heard former

23:03

President Trump attacking Vice President Harris. Former

23:06

Governor Nikki Haley, whom you supported for

23:08

president, had some advice for Trump

23:10

about the best way to campaign against Harris.

23:12

Take a listen to that, and then take a

23:14

listen to what Trump said this week. One

23:18

thing Republicans have to stop, don't quit

23:20

whining about her. The campaign is not

23:22

going to win talking about crowd sizes.

23:24

It's not going to win talking about

23:26

what race Kamala Harris is. It's not

23:28

going to win talking about whether she's

23:30

dumb. It's not, you can't win on

23:32

those things. I think I'm entitled to

23:34

personal attacks. I don't have a lot

23:37

of respect for her. I don't have a lot

23:39

of respect for her intelligence, and

23:41

I think she'll be a terrible president. Who's

23:45

right here, Haley or Trump? Well,

23:49

it is a Donald Trump in this case. Look,

23:52

as Nikki probably wouldn't point out, because she

23:54

was the alternative, almost any other Republican candidate

23:57

would be winning this race by 10 points.

24:00

And so the message is very clear. If

24:02

you stick to the issues,

24:04

if you stick to what matters, this should

24:06

be an easy race for Donald Trump. It

24:08

really should. The delta

24:10

that you're seeing right now is Trump does better

24:13

with males by about 10 points. But where this

24:15

giant shift in August has come is with the

24:17

female voter. Frank Luntz pointed this out in his

24:19

polling. He's down 10, 12 points

24:21

at least with females. And they're going to come

24:24

out in much bigger numbers than they previously would

24:26

have if Biden were the candidate. If you talk

24:28

about these economic issues, if you talk about, remind

24:30

folks that he's running against the most

24:32

liberal and most

24:34

unpopular vice president in history that

24:36

is now laid out, the worst

24:39

economic plan ever laid out by

24:41

a Democrat candidate. Even Obama's team

24:43

is panning this as a disaster for America.

24:46

So she then picked her own vice presidential

24:48

candidate, which is also one of the most

24:50

liberal progressive governors in the country that has

24:52

huge issues in terms of supporting public safety.

24:55

All of these things are lining up for

24:57

a huge Republican win. He's got to deliver.

24:59

And we've also showed him exactly that playbook to

25:01

do so. If he can get it together in

25:03

the last 60 days, he can. And

25:05

remind folks that there, as individuals, they're more

25:08

important than the government. This Democrat

25:10

administration, Harris's administration, she's not new to

25:12

this game. She's been there for almost

25:14

four years, has really tried to dominate

25:16

with a big government solution. It hasn't

25:19

worked. So if he sticks to

25:21

what matters, he sticks to what made this country

25:23

great, he can be very successful in November. It

25:27

sounds like you think it's going to be harder for

25:29

Trump to beat Vice President Harris than it

25:31

would have been for him to beat President

25:33

Biden. Oh, sure.

25:35

Oh, sure. No, there's no doubt about that.

25:37

Because she was able to establish

25:40

this resurgence. And her team has done a very

25:42

good job of avoiding the issues, trying to make

25:44

people believe that she hasn't been there for four

25:46

years. And they've done a very good job of

25:49

that at the same time capitalizing

25:51

on Trump's reaction. They

25:54

knew that the former president can be a very

25:56

reactionary person. And I saw that clip that you

25:58

just played. Trump can say, look, I'm in. entitled

26:00

to personal attacks. Nobody

26:02

cares what you're entitled to. Do

26:04

what you have to do to get the votes

26:07

and win. This is an election. It's about delivering

26:09

those votes, talking to those independent voters, especially those

26:11

moms, those suburban females that typically wouldn't have come

26:13

out strong for Biden. You've got to get them

26:15

back on the team. There's time to do it,

26:18

because they care about the economy. This

26:20

whole idea that inflation was

26:22

driven by price gouging, that's a bunch

26:24

of nonsense, that the government's going to

26:26

control prices to solve it. I just

26:29

heard Akeem Jeffries say that her plan

26:31

is the American way. It's one of

26:33

the most un-American plans that has ever

26:35

been proposed. Free markets, entrepreneurship, competitiveness, her

26:37

plan would crush all of that. So

26:39

let's do those things that got us

26:41

out of economic slumps in the 80s

26:43

and in the 60s. We

26:47

have a record of success doing it the

26:49

right way, not with government controls. And

26:52

in an event this week, former

26:55

President Trump compared giving the Presidential

26:57

Medal of Freedom to top Republican

26:59

donor Miriam Adelson to

27:02

giving the Medal of Honor to American

27:04

service members who risked their lives in

27:07

battle. Take a listen. It's

27:09

actually much better, because everyone

27:12

gets the Congressional Medal of Honor that

27:14

soldiers, they're either in very

27:16

bad shape, because they've been hit so many times

27:18

by bullets, or they're dead. She

27:21

gets it, and she's a healthy,

27:23

beautiful woman. And

27:27

they're rated equal. The

27:30

head of the VFW, Veterans of

27:32

Foreign Wars, said, quote, these asinine

27:34

comments not only diminish the significance

27:36

of our nation's highest award for

27:38

valor, but also crassly characterizes the

27:40

sacrifices of those who have risked

27:42

their lives above and beyond the

27:44

call of duty, unquote. Do

27:46

you agree with the VFW? Yeah,

27:50

they were asinine comments. There's no doubt

27:52

about that. Again, I don't

27:54

think they're the first asinine comments former President Trump

27:57

has ever made. I don't think they'll be a

27:59

game changer in terms of the of the election,

28:01

when you talk about what it takes for someone

28:03

to stand up and protect this country, it's

28:06

un-comparable, I think. It stands alone in

28:09

its own lane in terms of the

28:12

honor, especially when you talk about the Congressional

28:14

Medal of Honor. What Trump needs to be

28:16

focusing on, if he ever brings up the

28:18

military, is what it takes to keep America

28:20

strong across the world, how to bring world

28:22

peace in dangerous places like the Ukraine and

28:24

what's going on in Israel, in the Middle

28:26

East. These things get

28:29

solved, if you will, with America's strength,

28:31

and that only happens because of America's

28:33

brave soldiers and servicemen that are willing

28:35

to protect and make sure the

28:38

American way of life is established across

28:40

the country, and our allies know that they can count

28:42

on that. To make these types of

28:44

comparisons is so far afield. I don't think it's going

28:46

to be a big politically in

28:48

terms of moving votes. He said crazy

28:50

things like this before. At

28:52

the end of the day, he's got to just focus

28:55

on what Americans are feeling, which is the economy, the

28:57

stresses, the border crisis, the

28:59

migrant crisis, and he's going to have

29:01

a great opportunity. They're bringing this thing

29:03

to Chicago, this Democrat convention. Illinois

29:06

is one of the worst ... I'm sorry,

29:08

with all due respect to J.B., why is

29:10

everyone leaving Illinois and every state around Illinois

29:13

is gaining population? Why does Chicago still have

29:15

the reputation it has on safety? It's not

29:17

good. That's another opportunity for Republicans

29:19

to say, this is what the Democrats highlight.

29:22

We just want Americans to feel safe and

29:24

have opportunity in their lives. Quickly,

29:27

because you've been so critical of Vice

29:29

President Harris's proposal, economic proposals from last

29:31

week, former President Trump has been floating

29:34

sweeping new tariffs if he's elected, up to 20%.

29:38

Many economists, as I'm sure you know, say that's

29:40

going to raise prices for Americans. In North Carolina,

29:43

he suggested those tariffs could be as high as 20%.

29:46

Is a 20% across the board tariff a good idea,

29:48

do you think? Well,

29:52

look, I'll say this. I think the former

29:54

President, when he was President, had the right

29:56

idea with tariffs in terms of ratcheting things

29:58

up and ratcheting up the negotiations. It's

30:00

the threat of terrorists that really get the rest

30:02

of the world panicked and start allowing America to

30:04

capitalize on what they're bringing to the table. So whether

30:06

that would actually come to fruition or not, I don't

30:09

know. I don't think so. He

30:11

kind of used those types of threats in the

30:13

first administration. We got a better NAFTA

30:16

deal under former President Trump, NAFTA 2.0, which has

30:18

been a huge success in a lot of different

30:20

ways. And now we have to deal with the

30:22

issue of China, right? That's a real threat and

30:24

making sure that not just the jobs are protected

30:27

in America, but the workers are protected and we

30:29

can keep those dollars here instead of this massive

30:31

trade imbalance. He's willing to talk about it. He's

30:33

willing to take it on. Kamala Harris doesn't even

30:35

understand terrorists, to be honest. Kamala does not even

30:37

understand these international issues. And again, when

30:40

her economic plan is being penned by even Democrats,

30:42

everyone's wondering who the heck wrote this thing. So

30:44

I think that gives everyone in America, every business

30:46

owner, small and large in America, a lot of

30:48

pause in terms of what she would bring to

30:50

the table for the next four years. Governor

30:53

Sununu, thanks so much for your time today. I appreciate it. You

30:57

bet, buddy. What

30:59

to expect from this week's convention, including a

31:01

few surprises when my panel joins me right

31:03

here next. They

31:08

say opposites attract. That's why

31:10

the Sleep Number Smart Bed is the best bed

31:12

for couples. You can each choose what's right for

31:14

you whenever you like. You like a bed that

31:16

feels firm but they want soft? Sleep Number does

31:19

that. You want to sleep cooler while they like

31:21

to feel warm? Sleep Number does

31:23

that too. You have to feel it to believe

31:25

it. And the bed that's for both

31:27

of you only at a Sleep Number store. Nine

31:29

out of ten couples say that they sleep better

31:32

on a Sleep Number Smart Bed. Only

31:34

Sleep Number Smart Bed lets you choose

31:36

your ideal comfort and support your Sleep

31:38

Number setting. Sleep Number Smart Beds

31:40

automatically respond and adjust to your movements

31:42

so that you sleep comfortably all night

31:44

long. Beat the summer heat. Temperature

31:47

balancing bedding, like true temp bedding, is

31:49

designed to move heat and humidity away.

31:51

So you sleep just right. Can't agree

31:53

on temperature? The Sleep Number Climate 360

31:56

Smart Bed lets you adjust up to

31:58

30 degrees cooler or warmer. on

32:00

either side. So you can be polar

32:02

opposites in the same bed. Sleep better

32:04

together. JD Power ranks sleep number number

32:06

one in customer satisfaction with mattresses purchased

32:08

in store. And now, sleep number smartbed

32:10

starting at $999. Prices higher in Alaska

32:12

and Hawaii. For

32:16

JD Power 2023 award information,

32:18

visit jdpower.com/awards only at a

32:20

sleep number store or sleepnumber.com.

32:30

Turn this into a competition. Two teams, each

32:32

headed by Brian and Mika. What you

32:34

know about that Brian? Mirror mirror

32:36

on the wall. Which team is

32:38

gonna win it all? Husband and

32:40

wife going head to head. I

32:42

know all your weaknesses and I'm gonna use that against you. You

32:44

guys are going down. And they have

32:46

just 100 days. And the best hotel

32:49

win? 100 day hotel challenge. Special series

32:51

Tuesdays at 8 on HGTV. I'm

32:55

not at all offended that none of

32:57

you have any idea who I am.

32:59

It's time to elect John

33:01

Kerry. I accept your nomination

33:03

to run and serve with

33:05

Barack Obama. With great honor

33:08

and pleasure I accept. We

33:10

own the finish line. I

33:12

accept this nomination for president.

33:19

44 years of Joe Biden at Democratic National

33:21

Conventions. Welcome back to State of the Union.

33:23

And tomorrow we're going to see a new

33:25

face as Biden passes the torch to his

33:28

Vice President, Kamala Harris. My panel is here.

33:30

David, what are we expecting from Joe Biden

33:32

when he speaks tomorrow night? Well,

33:35

I think he's obviously going to talk a little

33:37

bit about what he's done. But

33:39

hopefully he'll talk about Kamala Harris in the

33:41

future. This

33:44

is an awkward pivot, right? Because he's

33:46

getting off the stage. It was not

33:49

necessarily what he planned. He planned to be speaking

33:51

Thursday night. But the service he can

33:53

perform to her is talk about her in the future

33:56

as much as he talks

33:58

about himself. Let others

34:00

talk about him and we'll see.

34:03

And we should note there is some

34:06

new polling suggesting,

34:08

also very positive for Kamala

34:10

Harris. I'm going to come to you on the polling.

34:13

There's the ABC News Washington Post poll that had her

34:16

at 49% over Trump, 45% nationally among

34:20

registered voters. That's outside the margin of error. That's the

34:22

first time she's pulled ahead of him outside the margin

34:24

of error. And then a new poll

34:27

from CBS, Harris, 51%, Trump, 48% among registered

34:29

voters nationally. Again,

34:33

national polls don't matter as much as

34:35

the state by state, but still it is indicative of

34:37

something. What are you seeing in the polls? So what

34:39

I think it's indicative of is a lot of voters

34:41

who had sat on the sidelines in a Trump versus

34:44

Biden rematch deciding that they want

34:46

to put their name down for voting for Harris

34:48

for the moment. But I wouldn't say these are

34:50

fully committed folks. If you look at a lot

34:52

of these polls and you compare July to August,

34:54

Donald Trump's share of the vote hasn't actually shrunk

34:57

by that much. And in some cases it's stayed

34:59

the same or gone up. It is Harris's numbers

35:01

that look very different from Biden's. She's taking away

35:03

from RFK Jr. She's bringing in some more of

35:05

those undecideds. So the question will be with this

35:07

convention, does she deliver a message that can secure

35:10

those voters to her? What kind of

35:12

a story does she tell to the Americans who don't know

35:14

that much about her? They know they don't like the policies

35:16

they've seen under President Biden. They don't feel like the country's

35:18

on the right track and they want to know is she

35:20

actually going to be a turning of the page in some

35:23

way? Can she do that? I

35:25

mean, that's, it's true that people don't know a

35:27

lot about her. And I

35:29

remember in 2008, this is not meant

35:31

as a criticism of either Obama or

35:33

Harris, but there was a degree

35:36

to which people just projected their hopes and

35:38

their thoughts onto him and now her that

35:40

may or may not actually be accurate. It

35:43

might not be accurate, but it's a great place

35:45

to be as a candidate where you have the

35:47

electorate who wants to be a part of what

35:49

you're building, who wants to be a part of

35:52

something bigger than themselves or the candidate itself. And

35:54

so I think Joe Biden should

35:56

acknowledge the success of his presidency, but

35:58

not just talk about the future. future,

36:00

but why he picked her to be

36:02

his number two. He can start to

36:04

credentialize her as a leader, as what,

36:06

it's the type of person he's seen

36:09

her before with his, the relationship she

36:11

had with his son Beau, so humanize

36:13

her, but then two, talk about her

36:15

integrity, her ability to make calculated decisions,

36:17

what type of partnership they had to

36:19

lay the foundation for the rest of

36:21

the night to be introduced, introduce

36:24

the country to Kamala Harris. I'll just also say

36:26

a lot of people don't know a lot about a lot

36:29

of vice presidents. Um, and so it's not

36:31

a, it's not a disadvantage because she hasn't been

36:33

a good vice president. Is this just the nature

36:35

of the role? No, I just mean like for

36:37

a nominee for a president. Sure. Sure. Yeah. Because

36:40

usually there's a process. Yes. It's also an opportunity

36:42

for Republicans

36:44

to define her, given the fact that

36:46

there's so little is known. Yeah. So

36:48

she's had by far the best run

36:50

for the past, past month unscathed.

36:53

She hasn't done a press conference 28 days.

36:55

She has a political Rorschach test. So people

36:57

are projecting their hopes,

36:59

their dreams, everything onto Kamala Harris.

37:02

Um, uh, what access is, is true. It's going to

37:04

be a little bit of a, of a tough position

37:07

here on Monday when Joe Biden, who's a part

37:09

of, you know, this admin, he was running this

37:11

administration, it's the Biden Harris campaign. Um,

37:14

the vice president's trying to project herself as an outsider, right?

37:16

She doesn't really want to be tied to the

37:18

former, the current president who's going to be here

37:20

because he's not that popular. Remember, that's why he's

37:22

not on this ticket. That's why he's not here

37:24

speaking on Thursday because he was so unpopular. They

37:26

kicked him off and put her on. So for

37:28

her to distance herself from the guy

37:31

who put her here is a little bit of

37:33

political jujitsu, right? And so I

37:35

think that's going to be interesting to see

37:37

how that plays out. And then when she

37:39

started answering questions, she's had this incredible month

37:41

and she's still tied with Donald Trump right

37:43

now. And that ADC poll, he's

37:46

still ahead on the economy, on immigration, on

37:48

inflation. He's still ahead of those factors. So

37:50

anybody that thinks this is a runaway race,

37:52

there were 11 issues and she was leading

37:54

on six. I think the thing that was

37:56

most interesting about that poll was on the

37:58

sort of personal ratings. favorable

38:01

favorabilities of them as human beings. Trump

38:03

was 22 points underwater and she was

38:05

in plus territory. And I think that's

38:08

really big. I

38:10

mean, you know, people were willing to tolerate

38:12

Donald Trump even though they didn't particularly like

38:14

him because they had questions about Joe Biden.

38:17

If she makes herself acceptable, they're

38:20

gonna move to her. And

38:23

this convention is an opportunity to do it. It

38:26

is always true when you have a candidate who

38:28

is not the incumbent that these

38:30

conventions are a lot about telling people who

38:33

they are, what their values are.

38:35

Bill Clinton, the man from hope, you know,

38:37

the Obama convention was like

38:39

that. That's the way, even last time,

38:41

Joe Biden, that convention was

38:43

really important to Joe Biden, rooting him

38:45

in the middle of the country, in

38:47

middle America, his values, his attachment of faith

38:50

to the military and so on. So

38:52

this is an opportunity for, and how different will

38:54

this convention be than it would have been in

38:57

a Biden convention? To that point, Donald Trump

38:59

had a great line at the press conference of Bedminster.

39:01

He said, you know, Kamala Harris keeps saying she's gonna be

39:04

ready on day one to take on these problems. Her day

39:06

one was three and a half years ago. Why not take

39:08

care of it right now? That's a great point.

39:10

But she benefits greatly in that ABC Washington Post

39:12

poll. One of the questions they asked was, do

39:14

you think that Kamala Harris has had a lot

39:16

of influence over Biden's economic policies, immigration policies? Only

39:19

a third of voters said they thought she had.

39:21

Yeah. And so that does mean it's a

39:23

bit of a blank sheet of paper. To what extent does

39:25

Biden say, I don't hear Trump talking about

39:27

the Pence years. Right,

39:31

exactly, he can't. But he's not running the Pence's,

39:33

and then how many? Why don't I ask why? I

39:35

don't think you want that answer. But I will just say,

39:38

when you look back in this arena, I think one

39:40

of the things that Kamala Harris can do, like

39:43

no one else, is say this

39:45

is what America looks like, and you can be

39:47

a part, this is like we want you to,

39:49

we wanna build this big tent party. We wanna

39:51

build this big tent coalition. It doesn't matter if

39:53

you come from the Midwest or the coast, you

39:56

can be a part of this. And that'll speak

39:58

to independent voters. On that issue, Amy

40:00

Gangel is reporting that on

40:02

Thursday night, Republican Congressman

40:04

Adam Kinzinger, former Republican Congressman

40:07

Adam Kinzinger, who's from Chicago,

40:10

is going to speak and endorse Kamala

40:12

Harris. I

40:15

don't think that he agrees with Kamala Harris

40:17

on very much, but he is one of

40:19

the Republicans like Liz Cheney and others who

40:21

sees Trump as such an existential threat to

40:23

the United States. Does that kind

40:25

of endorsement have an impact? Well, you put

40:27

that up against, say, Doug Ducey of Arizona

40:29

this week, who's somebody who has been kind

40:31

of, maybe not critical, maybe

40:33

not the right word, but that may have been

40:36

a surprise to people to see Doug Ducey say,

40:38

I'm endorsing Kerry Lake and Donald Trump. So right

40:40

now there is really a divide where for

40:43

among those Republicans who have been critical of

40:45

Donald Trump, to what extent does Kamala Harris

40:47

sort of force you to say, you're in

40:49

or you're out? This is a moment of

40:51

clear division and clear difference between these two

40:53

candidates. So while you do have

40:55

the Adam Kinzinger's who are leaving, you do have also the

40:57

folks like say Doug Ducey who say, I haven't liked Trump

40:59

in the past. Well, the

41:01

question is, does that work for, you know,

41:03

you have Senator Burr who voted for impeachment

41:06

saying, yeah, well, I'm going to be for him

41:08

even though I thought he was guilty of high

41:10

crimes and misdemeanors. I don't know if the end

41:12

of the day that that is that. The double

41:14

haters though are going more towards Kamala Harris than

41:16

they are Donald Trump. And that's a good thing

41:18

for her. Thanks one and all for being here

41:20

and we will be right back. We're

41:27

going to have much more on

41:29

the Democratic National Convention from the

41:31

Democratic National Convention special coverage live.

41:33

We'll kick off tonight at 7

41:35

p.m. Eastern tomorrow. Join us right

41:37

back here. The lead at four,

41:39

our special coverage starts at 7 p.m. Eastern right

41:42

here on CNN. Thank you

41:44

for spending your Sunday morning with us. Farid

41:46

Zakaria, GPS starts next and I will see

41:48

you tomorrow. Find

42:06

the bed that's for both of you, only at a

42:09

Sleep Number store. Sleep better together. J.D.

42:11

Power ranks Sleep Number number one in

42:13

customer satisfaction with mattresses purchased in store.

42:16

And now, Sleep Number Smart Bed starting at $999. Prices

42:20

higher in Alaska and Hawaii. And

42:31

I am delighted to

42:33

introduce you to my

42:35

podcast, Super Soul Conversations.

42:38

You can listen to some of the

42:40

most universal, powerful life lessons. I hope

42:42

these conversations will help illuminate your path

42:45

to all that you've been meaning to

42:47

be and all that you were meant

42:49

to be. You want to

42:51

feel better about your life, where you're

42:54

headed? Subscribe to my Super Soul Conversations

42:56

on Apple Podcasts and begin the journey

42:58

to your best self.