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Spooked. When
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I was a kid. Gonna
1:42
stay overnight at my friend's houses. After
1:46
basketball that the splashing in
1:48
a pool before nice mommy's
1:50
called us from nice. Dinners.
1:53
My go to their bedrooms, the
1:55
playing video games to we up
1:57
there comic books, And
2:00
ah, poor kids are
2:03
actors. I never
2:05
let them see mean marvel. At
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posted on the wall, chairs
2:10
on the desk the paid
2:12
full best sheets things others
2:14
in layman's like you see
2:16
on the T V shows.
2:20
Bahamas. We.
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Brothers, my sister. Likes.
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Must it was bear. You never
2:35
decorate a room you know plan
2:37
to stay in. This
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believe of surfing. not inviting any.
2:42
Went to my house for dinner.
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No. Way. I
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must must be. Recollecting
2:53
the other day, Waking
2:55
up from a deep sleep in
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my grown man best feed feed
3:00
in a senior team that big.
3:03
A miracle is. Still
3:05
in a dream state. For
3:08
the first time and notice. How
3:11
though. My best use.
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Of. Just
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a match is really. On
3:22
the. Minimal.
3:25
Set. My bedroom. Austere,
3:29
Know are on the walls,
3:31
Know outside lights set up
3:33
almost like but I'm planning
3:35
to fleece any moment. But
3:39
I've lived right here for years,
3:41
so I know. But I won't
3:43
lie, And
3:46
lie deserve color. And
3:49
No One. No
3:51
thing stopping me. I
3:54
need to do better. I'm
3:56
going to do Banner
3:58
Books. Gotten around.
4:01
a wonder I fear of perhaps. There
4:03
are some things. From
4:06
power. Now.
5:20
Give me his be nice move. In
5:23
a nice house. The
6:21
for Santa we moved in. The
6:23
kids were excited. Rosemary
6:26
was only in first grade. Paper
6:29
helmet and pre school. They
6:32
were busy just running around all over the place
6:34
and investigating all the different rooms. Spare
6:38
such as people selling in the main room of
6:40
their. Sex
6:42
life is used. To
6:46
the Sky. For
6:49
us he got the larger. Rooms. Gave
6:51
up a smaller room that was
6:53
directly above our bedroom. just made
6:56
more sense to have him closer.
6:58
Hims only five. It
7:01
was green and white wallpaper, very
7:03
old and wood floors. The
7:14
first thing I did was put
7:16
them to bad. Maybe
7:19
ten eleven o'clock at night. The
7:22
gabriel He just screaming. He
7:25
was crying. He says he eats
7:27
and sleeps. He doesn't want to
7:29
be there. He's scared. I went
7:31
upstairs. At Edmunds
7:34
drink the water, hadn't go to the bathroom told
7:36
him as he flipped his pillow and everything is
7:38
kind of here okay and rubbed his box and
7:40
I stayed with him until he fell asleep. I
7:43
thought he had had a nightmare and so I
7:45
said okay, we're gonna try again tomorrow. It's
7:48
a change. His. Side years old he
7:50
is in a new space. We just need to
7:52
take time and get used to it. But
7:57
Daves yelling and the night. Became very
7:59
common. Almost. Nightly occurrence.
8:03
This. Was new behavior. We didn't see this in the
8:05
old house with him. At
8:08
my husband has some house was saying
8:10
i you that. This buddy, you're tough, you
8:12
not scared of anything you can handle as.
8:15
It. Didn't work. We're
8:19
probably than in her for about three four
8:21
weeks. I go
8:23
to bed and I hear gave screaming.
8:26
Saying. He's wishing me squishy, me scientists
8:29
and on my best. Known
8:32
as a is there somebody inherit. If
8:35
they're than anybody else in the house the dog
8:37
would have alerted us we would have found them
8:39
is none of it made any sense and a
8:41
sister confused. I
8:46
said the game. There's
8:48
nobody in your room. There's nobody here.
8:50
I don't see anybody. You're You're having a
8:52
bad same. You had a bad dream. That
8:56
he. Insisted he says. Specially.
9:05
I had remembered a trick that I had
9:07
used when I was babysitting and college. I
9:13
made them months. To spread by taking
9:15
one of those spray bottle dispensers and
9:17
putting some water and and a little
9:20
essential oils. He likes the way it
9:22
smelled and before I talked him into
9:24
than I had him watch me spray
9:26
to spray under his bed and around
9:28
the windows. And then I talked him
9:31
into bed and I read in the
9:33
story he was really excited. If mom
9:35
says this is monsters, Brothers gotta work.
9:41
They didn't do anything. Have.
9:54
The days where hard because.
9:57
All day long I be. Thing: Okay, what's
9:59
gonna happen the night Alice's gonna go to night. And
10:02
as more of a easy going attitude
10:05
about it. I'm
10:07
more like okay so this is a problem and we
10:09
have to six it. Actually
10:13
been here. About a
10:16
month, well look no longer than a
10:18
month. Because he was Halloween I decided
10:20
to throw a kid friendly thirty. I
10:24
wanted everybody to ass and but mostly i
10:26
wanted gave the has. I
10:29
thought it might be a nice
10:31
way of making the house seem
10:33
less scary. That sucks sometimes to
10:36
plan as party out so make
10:38
it a Halloween party but make
10:40
it very light and fun and
10:42
sweet. So
10:45
that the kids with see that we
10:47
could be spooky but good and on
10:49
spooky. There
10:52
wasn't going to be any scary awesome.
10:54
so it's like a princess or a
10:56
pirate. We
10:59
put together a. Child friendly game
11:01
sites kinda knows on the ghost.
11:04
Were making caramel apples. We
11:06
got some small pumpkins. And
11:10
attack. On. His
11:12
plan was going to work and it was really
11:14
gonna be the turning two weeks or gave. I
11:20
was really. Relieved to see that
11:23
game was relax and enjoying the
11:25
house. Towards
11:32
the end of the night. We we planned a
11:35
spooky walk through the house. Or
11:38
was different things that we had put in
11:40
the house for them so look out of
11:42
like oh look here's a black cat. Said
11:45
we were walking through the house. Most
11:48
of us are up on the landing. One
11:51
of my friends in new gave was saying
11:53
a the seeing somebody in his room. See
11:58
made a comment. Sometimes
12:01
our imaginations make. Us
12:03
feel like something that's not
12:05
real. It's real. I
12:09
think that she was doing a
12:12
good thing by reinforcing. The message
12:14
said I was giving him. Out
12:17
of the blue. Roses
12:20
He punched. My son in the stomach and
12:22
said. He's real. He's
12:25
real gave not Lane. My
12:29
friend gasps and said okay,
12:31
so we're leaving. Last.
12:36
Game just stood there with his eyes really
12:39
while waiting to see what was gonna happen
12:41
next. I
12:48
was shocked. I was embarrassed. I
12:52
grabbed Rosemary and. Said suit on. Do that.
12:54
You don't ever hit somebody. And
12:58
then I put her in her room. And
13:00
that's where she stayed until everybody was gone. That
13:04
had the night and on an awkward know.
13:07
She's. Stuck to her guns. She
13:10
wouldn't retracts what she had said
13:12
and say with clear she wasn't
13:14
going to apologize either. I
13:18
didn't know what to do. It.
13:27
Was couple weeks after the Halloween.
13:29
Party. Rosie. And I were cooking
13:31
together. just the two of us. She
13:34
says to me, you know mommy. Keeps
13:37
outlying. She's.
13:39
Real. And
13:44
I santa when. oh. Okay,
13:48
Suppose out. So.
13:52
I said to you see him. She.
13:56
says. She. Doesn't look at
13:58
me. And
14:01
then is is quiet for a second and she says.
14:04
She's not bad. He
14:07
just wants to ball. Game
14:10
doesn't like him, but he's
14:12
okay. I
14:15
said oh. Oh
14:18
okay. And
14:21
then we continued cooking.
14:26
But this was becoming a bigger
14:28
deal than just some little kids
14:30
having nightmares. One.
14:41
Night About a week after the party
14:43
I got a bad and I hear
14:45
gave. Screaming. This
14:50
was not like his other screams. The
14:54
scream was have a child
14:56
in absolute terror. Of
15:00
as. We
15:03
find Daves in the middle of
15:06
the landing, clutching his blade as
15:08
soon as trembling, sledding. A
15:11
week when you make sense out of anything that he
15:13
was trying to say for a couple of minutes. I
15:17
wasn't sure. At that point that he hadn't
15:19
hurt himself. so I was chatting him to
15:21
see. She
15:24
looked ok. Then
15:26
add says to me you sleep with gave
15:28
and I'm in asleep in his room. He
15:31
was just like down the sleep there and then I
15:33
will tell gave everything's fine and will figure it out.
15:42
The. Next morning and comes down
15:45
stairs and and into the
15:47
kitchen. The expression on
15:49
ads face was really stole it
15:51
and stony and he says games
15:53
with enough to sleep in that
15:55
room again. He
16:01
really went go into it. He just said. There
16:05
something in that room. It's not good. No one slip
16:07
in and that row. Home.
16:11
Yeah. That's when I move shape and
16:14
will. They.
16:16
Had his own room on the other side of
16:18
the house. He
16:20
settled right back into the
16:23
very much the same personality.
16:25
Funny, happy, easy going, creative,
16:27
playful. And he'd
16:29
sit through the night. I
16:35
was so relieved. That there seem
16:37
to be some peace a mouse. I just
16:39
tried not to think about it and and
16:41
not do anything with the room. It
16:47
was about a year and a half later. As
16:51
pregnant with my third child.
16:54
Was. Not eleven o'clock at night. At
16:57
had already gone to bed. Had
16:59
lay down, get ready to go to
17:02
sleep and I heard a kid playing
17:04
on the upstairs landing. I heard their
17:06
feet powdering upstairs. I heard things movie
17:08
being moved around. It's
17:11
most likely game who's running
17:14
around? so. I yell out
17:16
keep get back to bed. Everything
17:20
set for minute like okay. that. And
17:25
I hear a door shut.
17:28
And I figured okay, that's escape
17:31
going back to his part of
17:33
the house. Couple
17:37
minutes later I hear what sounds like
17:39
the rug sliding across the floor upstairs.
17:43
So I'm getting really mad. And
17:46
then I hear. A kid
17:48
on the stairway. You
17:52
know when a child goes down the stairs
17:54
and it's one at a time? So it's
17:56
it's a thump. Thump.
18:01
And I'm thinking all gave you are in so
18:03
much trouble. You are in so much trouble. I
18:07
did not want to give gave the
18:09
satisfaction of knowing that I was going
18:11
to pay attention to him. So
18:14
anti the last Los Angeles sleep
18:16
in a bad. Day
18:20
hear him some. Into the
18:22
bedroom I hear his little footsteps. And
18:25
then I feel him staring over
18:27
me in the bed. I
18:31
say gave you need to get up
18:33
to your bad right knee. And
18:37
he doesn't move. On
18:40
the set up and then I look at him for the
18:42
way that mother's. To when they're really angry. Had a kid.
18:46
And. All of a son. All the air goes
18:48
right out of me. My eyes are wide open
18:50
and I am not looking at gave. It
18:54
was not game. Is
18:57
him? He
19:03
might be a ten years
19:05
old. He has nightdress like
19:07
they might have worn in
19:09
the eighteen hundreds. A
19:12
little page boy her thought. The
19:15
what struck me was the expression on
19:18
his face. He
19:20
had his head tilted a little. Bit and he is
19:23
looking at me. And
19:25
he looked lost. the
19:27
sound. He had
19:29
this questioning expression the at his head
19:32
tilted any was like looking at me
19:34
like if he could speak. He'd
19:37
be asking me where he was or where
19:39
his mom was. I
19:42
wanted to cry. I felt so bad for
19:44
this little child. I'm
19:48
staring at him and he's staring at
19:50
me and I can't get any words
19:52
out. By. Back into
19:54
the headboard and I don't say
19:56
anything. We
20:00
were staring at each other for quite
20:02
some time. It felt like minutes. But
20:04
I know I had to have been
20:06
seconds. And then he walks around the
20:09
side of the bed and into the
20:11
bathroom with us. Now. I
20:18
pushed to the As and I'm like. I
20:20
just I just saw a ghost child
20:23
and as I know. I'm
20:25
like no, no, I really did. And
20:27
I get up out of the dead in a
20:29
bitch without the bathroom. and there's nobody there. Go.
20:32
Upstairs to check on the kids and both of
20:35
them are sound of food. And
20:37
sitting on the stairwell going.
20:39
What did I just see?
20:41
I see this is real.
20:43
This is not like the
20:45
on T V. This really
20:47
happened. And.
20:50
Then I'm thinking, okay, what can I do. I
20:55
had seen things on television or read things and
20:57
box and figured that if you're going to speak
20:59
to the spirit, you need to light a candle.
21:02
So I did that, thinking okay, well this
21:05
is what you're supposed to do. I
21:08
felt would prefer are very bold. A
21:14
lot of Sicily of Sir Sanding. I
21:16
took this little weight kill a candle and
21:18
I just sat up there. I
21:21
started talking to whatever was in
21:23
the house and I said. I
21:26
am sorry if your last are confused.
21:29
My job is to take care of this house and
21:31
my children. And I need
21:33
you to understand that. I
21:38
wanted them to seal heard and
21:40
I also wanted them to understand.
21:43
That being disruptive or
21:45
scary wasn't helpful or
21:48
necessary. We could coexist.
21:54
As I was speaking the house
21:56
became very still and all the
21:58
little noises that. The house
22:01
makes called it. The
22:04
felt as though I was being heard.
22:09
I sat quietly for a while and then
22:11
the flame just went out. In
22:18
the days following seeing the little boy,
22:20
I said about him a lot. I
22:24
still think about him at I never had
22:26
an hour to see him again. I
22:30
didn't tell the kids said I said a bullet.
22:32
Not until much later. Eighty
22:34
Eight Eighty. Lily
22:41
was born in two thousand for. One.
22:43
Day Lily was in her room. Is
22:45
probably about four years old. And
22:48
see these two little toys Big
22:50
bear and jelly cat willingness on
22:52
the floor and she was playing
22:54
a game with the to stuffed
22:56
animals but acting like there's another.
22:58
Little friend in the room. She
23:03
saying things like new, it's your
23:05
turn. Know
23:07
you give me that. And
23:09
sister saying that to the air. Always
23:14
trying to humor her and asked her about
23:16
her little fan as I'm putting the sheets
23:18
on the bird and she says it's a
23:20
little boy is a little boy that lives
23:22
in my room. As
23:25
oh no. But.
23:28
Lily wasn't scared of him. It was
23:30
almost like see just accepted the oh.
23:32
Here's this person. Sometimes.
23:37
I could hear her yelling at Night
23:39
Lights Leave Me alone Go to bed
23:41
He's rolling abolish we complain. About him
23:43
keeping her up at night. By
23:46
the time she was like twelve season.
23:48
Talk about him anymore. As
23:54
a little boy, hasn't shown up for
23:56
quite some time. But. Now I
23:59
have a grandson. Imo build
24:01
up a local call. Her
24:06
handling and are her a I
24:08
have a certain amount of compassion.
24:10
True there's this little ghosts as
24:13
to so last and doesn't know
24:15
where he is going and making
24:17
friends with little human shows how.
24:21
I would much rather have him be
24:23
at peace than playing with matches. Are
24:42
you know. Story
24:45
Phone Booth list. Grass
24:48
on the new grandbaby journey. Please
24:50
let us know if a little
24:52
boy shows up. Please
24:56
let me know I don't want
24:58
any part of it's someone here.
25:01
It spooked. I'm sure I'll be
25:03
glad to provide any assistance if
25:05
they can. The
25:07
original score for the pieces by Nicholas Mark.
25:23
Now. Stooges. I
25:26
have a favor to ask you about
25:28
the night. Maybe
25:31
you like me as practice your
25:33
lucid dreaming. But
25:36
no, their whole teams of
25:38
scientists that study sleepers control
25:40
their own three marriages, the
25:42
great characters, and it's where
25:44
they can fly and eve
25:46
underwater, explore outer space, Wonders
25:53
running through my own
25:55
imagination. To
25:58
use this. I
26:02
was always a body altogether. Leaving
26:07
of those experience another aspect of the
26:10
world's. Of. Relief
26:13
train our to someone
26:15
else. And
26:19
force so someone else.
26:21
someone else. If
26:28
you know about this practice, if
26:30
you have experienced this or someone
26:33
has crimes against the door of
26:35
your nice guy. He's.
26:50
Brought. Under.
26:54
Each and every time A little says
26:56
most in a class at. Least.
27:01
Four. Months
27:05
in the. States.
27:11
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27:14
a. Lousy,
27:16
married bookstore. Bolland
27:19
that pretty little deeper do
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a little my to aloof
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27:35
lease. On
27:37
see our. Enemies
27:40
Patients Early Parole Board
27:42
all these many years.
27:44
Seduce my friend. Suspect
27:47
advice. Cells. Or
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to abandon a loving husband. The
27:51
main seats that all her money
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on the ponies juggle. Not my
27:56
friend as the rest of a
27:58
family about these thought. No
28:01
one doubts early parole. Stopped by. Accepting.
28:07
On one moment, she's be
28:09
listened to like. Our
28:12
girls a crazy stuff when she was here.
28:14
as you can be given what she did.
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Pleasant request. To
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do the following: more authority after they're
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gone. As never
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met early pearls and this is no
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indication of sees listeners but. The
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know. Seems. Like
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have some can make the journey have
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all this when you might not least
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you them out Still. Say
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sorry. For
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all the things. You
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As nice class. Or.
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With very special care.
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After. Someone
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dark of night? My. To
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