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Horror Podcast number 9 Burst

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City. 1982. Warning!

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Spoilers ahead. I

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got another tattoo yesterday. It's a lemur. And

1:00

it's on my chest. Up

1:04

near my left shoulder. It's got a long, it's

1:07

got a, you know what? I'm a, I'm

1:09

a, I'm a, I'm a show

1:11

you YouTube. YouTube and

1:13

Cecil I'm gonna show you right now. Hang on.

1:16

Let me strip. You're gonna get a titty show Cecil.

1:21

Hahahaha. So

1:24

here it is. I have this lemur. It's a lemur on my

1:26

chest near my left shoulder. It's got a long ring tail that

1:28

drapes over the shoulder and then goes down, goes down the arm.

1:31

I think it's super cute. It's really fun. My

1:33

tattoo artist Darcy Nut of Challis Tattoo in Boise,

1:35

Idaho, in case you're interested, worked with me to

1:37

develop this image. I love

1:39

her shading, her psychedelic style, and her sense of

1:41

playfulness in every one of her pieces. When

1:44

I saw she was visiting Brooklyn again, I reached out to

1:46

her and said, I want to book an appointment and I

1:48

want a lemur. What kind

1:51

of lemur? Mmm, ring-tailed lemur.

1:53

Where? Shoulder. Do

1:56

you want it sitting, running? Uh,

1:58

they usually climb things. took

4:00

too much mushrooms and got

4:02

separated from my group and

4:04

decided to lay down on

4:06

the sidewalk in

4:09

the downtown of the college town right where

4:12

I went and the cops

4:14

were like oh no you were going straight

4:16

to jail oh my

4:18

goodness so you actually went to jail I

4:21

went to jail I went to the drunk

4:23

tank how was it while on mushrooms and

4:26

uh waited there a few

4:28

hours while my friends figured out one that

4:30

I was missing and two

4:33

that I was in jail and

4:35

then gathered together the like 92

4:37

dollars to bail me

4:39

out of jail amazing but

4:43

in my experience I

4:46

had died and

4:48

when they and like completely I had gone through like

4:50

I thought I had died and then

4:52

when I was being booked I

4:54

thought that I was standing in front of like

4:56

St. Peter and the pearly gates kind of thing

4:58

and they were asking me like all these questions

5:01

about who I was in my former life and

5:04

then I was in some sort of like

5:06

limbo where I was

5:08

like awaiting becoming

5:10

a new person that's

5:13

fantastic 19 years old freshman

5:18

year I have only been

5:20

arrested once and it was when I

5:22

was in my early 20s and I was working

5:24

at kitchen dog theater in Dallas Texas and

5:27

I had gotten I didn't have much money because

5:29

I was working for a place called kitchen dog theater

5:31

and so I

5:34

had gotten a speeding ticket in uh the

5:36

township of Highland Park in the middle of

5:38

Dallas like I think most cities have this

5:40

like Beverly Hills you know

5:42

it's the really rich fancy oh sure

5:45

neighborhood that's its own township type of

5:47

thing anyways well I had

5:49

that I'd left that ticket unpaid for several

5:51

yeah several months and then one day

5:53

I'm at work sitting in my office

5:55

at our theater and my friend Tim

5:58

comes in he's like uh there's There's

6:00

a cop who wants to talk to you. And

6:03

this cop walked into my office, asked my

6:05

name, and told me I had

6:07

an unpaid ticket and that I had to go with him. And

6:10

he took me down to the jail, took

6:12

my photo and everything. I did not end

6:14

up in a jail because I

6:16

was able to pay my ticket while I was there.

6:19

But he had straight up, yeah, put

6:22

me in the back of his prowler. They do that in

6:24

Texas? I guess they do that

6:26

in Highland Park. They're like, you didn't pay your tickets. We're

6:28

arresting you. That's absolutely what they did.

6:30

And it was just one ticket. It was

6:32

one ticket and it was from unpaid by

6:34

three or four months. You have

6:37

90 days to pay it. Wow. And

6:39

then I probably let another 90 to 120 days go

6:41

beyond that. So it wasn't even like I

6:43

had 15 unpaid fines

6:45

or something. Yeah, or was it

6:47

reckless endangerment speeding? Were

6:50

you going 90 in a 20? No.

6:53

It was very much like, oh, I

6:56

think this was a time when I ran

6:58

a stop sign. I

7:00

didn't blow through it, but I kind of did a very

7:03

bad version of the slowdown because it

7:09

was a wide open intersection. I was just being

7:11

stupid. I was like, there was just nobody around.

7:14

We're just going through this. You're a punk. You're

7:16

a punk rocker, Jeffrey. I am a punk rocker.

7:19

Oh my God. I

7:22

almost texted you last night while watching

7:26

the first 15 minutes

7:28

of this movie. I

7:31

thought to myself, this is the coolest

7:33

movie I have ever seen in my

7:35

whole life. The

7:37

first 15 minutes of this film, I

7:39

wish you could just watch that for free online

7:42

and you didn't have to rent this because

7:45

it's fucking fun. I think

7:47

most of this movie has, there's a lot

7:50

of moments of like, this is cool as

7:52

shit. Overall, this

7:54

is a very cool looking movie. This is the

7:56

type of movie I imagine Quentin Tarantino has seen

7:58

like 19 times. Yeah,

8:00

probably. You

8:02

very much feel a Quentin Tarantino

8:05

vibe. It's very Grindhouse. It's

8:07

very Mad Max. Yeah.

8:10

Yeah, it's a punk rock

8:12

musical. Musical? Yes.

8:15

Yeah. Musical? Musical?

8:17

No, oh, it's definitely a musical. There's

8:20

like dance numbers. There's a battle of

8:22

the bands. But

8:26

then there's all the other stuff. Yeah,

8:30

like you're right. You're so right. The

8:32

first 15 minutes is really engaging and

8:35

like just wild. And

8:37

then you kind of reach the middle bit, which

8:40

is like an hour and a half long. And

8:45

that is literally just like 90 minutes

8:47

of people screaming. There's

8:49

an entire character who I call

8:51

Hey Boy, who's the younger school. Like

8:54

there's two kind of main characters. Let's

8:56

call the main characters. Silver

8:58

Bullet. Okay, I was

9:01

calling him Mask Man and Sidecar. Yeah,

9:03

Silver Bullet. And he's

9:05

like this sort of old, he's got like a

9:07

round, almost like Magneto meets Phantom of

9:12

the Opera bicycle helmet. Great

9:15

description. Motorcycle helmet. And

9:19

so he's Silver Bullet. And

9:21

he has his sidekick, who I called Hey

9:23

Boy. Because Hey Boy

9:26

is like a nonverbal, he's like

9:28

nonverbal younger brother who just goes,

9:31

Hey. But in

9:34

Japanese that translates to. Ah!

9:37

Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah!

9:41

Ah! Ah! Ah! Oh,

9:45

by the way, I just want to say, because

9:48

the feed we put up on YouTube is

9:50

always just straight from the Zoom call. And

9:52

it's very funny because Zoom is like, Oh,

9:54

you probably don't want to hear the screaming,

9:56

do you, Jeffrey? So it just meets out

9:58

when you do that. So YouTube

10:00

has no idea. So,

10:03

so, um, so yeah, silver bullet and

10:05

Hey boy starts with

10:07

them like, like POV shot of them

10:11

going through like Japanese

10:13

city streets at night. Everything is

10:16

like super impressionistic, like lights. Now

10:21

listen, I'm going to take the spoiler or the trigger

10:23

warning on this episode and be like, if you have any kind of photosensitivity,

10:29

this is not the movie for

10:31

you. No, no, I

10:33

already, I always write the

10:36

content warnings while I'm watching each film. And

10:38

I immediately just wrote

10:40

strobe effects. Strobe effect. This movie

10:42

is nothing but strobe effects, which

10:46

fun, right? Totally. But

10:49

for two hours, my brain hurt. Yeah. It

10:53

was an, it was an audio like

10:55

this movie was like an audio and

10:57

visual representation of what

11:00

it wanted to capture. So I think this

11:02

movie is actually like very successful in a

11:04

way. Like I felt like I was in

11:06

the middle of a scrum at a

11:09

punk rock battle of the bands. And I think that's what they

11:11

were going for. Therefore I have to

11:13

go. Good work. Yeah.

11:17

When you say impressionistic and I wrote

11:19

expressionistic, it makes me think of expressionistic theater.

11:22

I think that's what I meant. Yeah. Or

11:24

it's almost like theater of cruelty. I mean,

11:26

there's all of that kind of shit where it's,

11:29

it was all about like the deepest

11:31

part of our

11:35

lizard brain cells. Like everything is

11:37

primal in this film. And

11:39

I agree with you. I think it

11:41

captures it perfectly. So when

11:43

you say sometimes it's hard to know how

11:45

to rate a film,

11:47

how to say a piece of art is

11:50

good or bad. And one of the rubrics

11:52

by which you measure as an artist, your

11:54

own self is how well did I achieve

11:56

what I set out to achieve? And

11:58

I think this is a, this movie is. is a 10 out

12:00

of 10 on that rubric. Yes. Because

12:04

I was reading a little bit, I was trying to

12:06

find plot summaries, and those are really hard to come

12:08

by in this movie. If somebody was like going

12:11

beat by beat, who are the character names, what

12:13

is exactly happening at each moment? That does not

12:15

exist. That's not really important. No, I guess not.

12:17

And I did see a review of the

12:20

film where

12:23

they had talked about the

12:25

director of this film. He's

12:27

credited in the film as Sogo Ishii. There

12:32

were a lot of scenes he just cut from

12:35

the script because he didn't have the budget or

12:37

the time to put them in there. So

12:39

there's a lot of expository things,

12:41

explanatory things. And he just felt

12:43

like, we don't even have to

12:45

shoot it. I don't care. I

12:48

got the scenes I want, and that's

12:50

fine. But

12:53

yeah, it is all vibe. It

12:56

is all vibe. And all the

12:58

way up to the sequence

13:00

up to the opening credits to

13:03

the actual first song performed

13:05

live, cell number eight. Oh

13:08

my god, yes. Dopish it.

13:11

Dopish it. So we

13:13

open with this motorcycle of

13:15

Silver Bullet and Hey Boy riding

13:18

in their side car motorcycle through the streets

13:20

of Tokyo, all POV sort of stuff. There's

13:23

a moment where there's a Camaro driving

13:26

Yakuza, basically.

13:28

They are Yakuza. And

13:31

the bike rides right at them. So

13:35

there's a brief little showdown. And they're like,

13:37

who are those guys? That sort

13:39

of scene. You're going to find out

13:41

later. And then we have a radio

13:44

host talking about this upcoming concert.

13:46

There's going to be 10,000 people,

13:48

punk show. It's artsy

13:50

shots of a

13:53

band getting into their leather gear

13:55

putting on. I love this. Yeah. Popping

13:57

pills. Yeah, it's like.

13:59

It's like, like hard days night,

14:02

but hardcore. It's a hardcore days night.

14:06

Because it's like all these like

14:08

really cool detail shots of

14:10

like the studs on the leather jacket, like

14:12

just the end of a cigarette, people putting

14:15

on, oh my God, there is so much

14:17

mascara in this movie, Jeffrey. At one point,

14:21

in like a little bit, a character

14:23

literally pulls off a pair of sunglasses

14:25

and everybody goes, whoa, because

14:28

his mascara is so fucking dope. But

14:31

I loved all this, it was like, yeah,

14:34

the band getting ready. And

14:36

then they're like walking through a dark

14:38

hallway and they're like stepping on posters

14:40

for the Beatles because fuck the Beatles,

14:42

apparently. And then one of

14:45

the characters screams and then like uses his

14:47

bass guitar to like beat

14:49

down a light bulb and

14:51

then we're in darkness. It's

14:55

just the fucking coolest. And

14:58

the title card sequence is so

15:00

great. Everything about it is, it's

15:03

so stylized. Like this is the beginning of

15:05

the MTV generation. This is the beginning of

15:07

the MTV era. And we're gonna

15:10

start seeing more and more music videos

15:12

in the eighties that kind of

15:14

are copying some of this grind

15:16

house film style. And

15:18

yeah, I think

15:21

if you're interested in that, I think

15:23

totally go get it. It definitely feels

15:25

like somebody today made a movie trying

15:28

to capture the vibe of punk rock

15:30

eighties and nailing it. Even

15:32

with they shot all of this in low light. So

15:35

one of the things about this film, it

15:37

is on shot on film of course, cause we're

15:40

not digital yet. And one of the

15:42

things about film is that when you shoot in

15:44

low light with low shutter speeds, you get

15:47

a lot of blur and you

15:49

get a lot of grain. So this

15:51

movie is grainy and it only adds

15:54

to the beautiful texture of

15:56

what this film is. Oh yeah.

15:59

Okay. Title. Picard bursts city and then the

16:01

title card explodes. And then- Bam, bam, bam,

16:03

bam, bam, bam, bam. The

16:06

music is a bop and the music is a

16:08

bop throughout. Like there's always

16:10

a soundtrack, whether the band

16:12

is playing on stage, whether the evil

16:14

band is playing on stage, even

16:17

just underneath shit, there's just

16:19

like always a beat going

16:21

on. Which that was kind of what

16:23

carried me through this movie. Cause I was like, I

16:25

gotta admit, about 30, 40 minutes, I

16:27

was like, how long is this movie? I need, oh

16:30

no, oh no, there's an hour and a

16:32

half more. But the music

16:35

got me through. Yeah. I was kind

16:37

of like tapping my toe for like two hours, just

16:39

being like, yeah, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam. You

16:41

know? I'm sort of

16:43

interested in the fashion in this film too,

16:46

because- Oh my God. There's a

16:48

very particular look to when you talk about the London

16:50

punk scene of the 1970s. Yeah.

16:53

And then an even more distinct look of the New York

16:55

punk scene in the 70s and 80s. And

16:58

here we have the early 80s

17:00

Japanese punk scene. Yeah. And

17:05

I'm curious about your take on this too, because

17:07

it's very leather. It's

17:09

very black leather and spikes. And

17:13

when I first saw people dressed like

17:15

this in this opening song right after

17:18

the title card, cell number eight, I

17:23

had like a queer read on it. Cause I'm

17:26

looking at like, I'm thinking of like, Leatherman

17:30

from YMCA. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And,

17:34

but I don't necessarily think that's what they're going for.

17:36

I just think that that is what,

17:39

they're going more like greaser leather, but with

17:41

spikes. Yes, that's it. There's

17:44

an Elvis-y sound to some of

17:46

the music in this too. Absolutely.

17:48

So it's very like a whole

17:50

other country, non-English speaking country, that

17:53

is taking American pop culture and,

17:57

like from the 50s. Yeah. Because

18:00

it is it's very like Marlon

18:02

Brando wild ones. Yes. Yes. Yes.

18:05

But with a lot more shiny,

18:09

there's a lot more bling, like maybe not

18:11

as much bling as like the London

18:14

punk scene, because that was a lot

18:16

of bling, like a lot of accoutrement.

18:19

But you don't get the like the acid

18:22

plaid that you get from London, you don't

18:24

get a lot of the like, kind

18:26

of like, ripped t shirt minimalists

18:28

punk, which is kind of what I

18:30

think of as like, New York.

18:33

Like I remember actually, this is this is hilarious.

18:35

The first time I went to New York City,

18:37

I was like 13 years old, 14 something

18:40

on a show choir field trip. Yes, because I

18:42

was in show choir and we went to New

18:44

York City to go see musicals. And it was

18:46

the first time I'd ever been. And

18:49

somehow, our chaperone, we were just

18:51

walking around the villages,

18:53

you know, on a beautiful day, and

18:55

we walked down St. Mark's, which

18:58

is like, like a kind

19:01

of like a little Japan slash

19:05

punk rock boutique street

19:08

is the only way to describe St. Mark's. There's like, you're gonna

19:10

get some really good Japanese food. And

19:13

there's this, there was this, this

19:17

store called search and destroy, which I

19:20

think is still there. I'm pretty sure it's still

19:22

there. And Milo

19:24

13 old brain looked up and saw and

19:26

it's like all like acid plaid punk leather,

19:29

you know, leather chat, like everything, you

19:31

know, big, big crazy socks boots, like

19:34

what anything you want that is like

19:36

punk rock CBGB old school. And

19:39

in their store window, there was just

19:41

a white t shirt of a woman

19:44

who was getting

19:47

who was, how do I say

19:49

this? Oh, eating shit. She was

19:51

eating shit. And

19:55

the t shirt just said S&C Shiza. And

20:00

my little 13 year old mind was unprepared.

20:04

But that to me, like that made a lasting

20:06

impression of like, that is like kind

20:09

of like what punk wants to do,

20:11

which is to like provoke and

20:15

say fuck you to the norms. And like, can

20:17

you imagine walking down the street with the S

20:20

and C Shaija t-shirt? Oh my God. You

20:23

know? Yeah. But that to me, so like,

20:25

I don't know, but that is like always

20:27

kind of lasted in me of like, oh,

20:29

this is like the last bastion of punk

20:31

rock CBGB, which, you know, I think was

20:33

still around at that time. It is no

20:35

longer around now. It's like a John Varvatos

20:38

store in which you can buy

20:40

like a $300 t-shirt. Yeah.

20:43

CBGB closed just

20:46

shortly after I moved to New York. I think I want to say

20:48

closed in like 2007, like

20:51

a finally closed. Like it was still going,

20:53

but it was, it

20:55

had long been out of its original relevance.

20:57

Yeah. Yeah.

21:02

This, that, that was the

21:04

anarchy era. Yeah. A

21:06

in a circle. Yeah. That,

21:08

that was this era. But this movie doesn't have

21:10

that. Like it, like all the

21:12

things that, you know, have now been

21:14

sort of kind of co-opted by like

21:16

urban outfitter as quote punk rock. This

21:19

is not that, this

21:22

is much more like the rockabilly

21:24

look meets almost a glam

21:26

rock because you see people

21:28

with like the

21:32

kiss star, there's a lot of face

21:34

paint missing everybody. Their faces are

21:36

painted in this movie. And

21:40

I love it because it is that kind of

21:42

like, it's not like clearly they're not playing glam

21:44

rock, but it's that like gender flexible, put

21:49

on some like Susie Sue and the band. She's

21:53

kind of like dark eye makeup, paled

21:55

out face. It's like, it's

21:58

very specific. and really

22:01

sexy. Like, I mean, I

22:03

can smell this movie through the screen. Like

22:06

I can smell these boys through the

22:08

screen. But listen, they look cute in

22:11

their little tight leather pants. This movie

22:13

smells like vomit and cigarettes. Like it

22:15

smells like a rock club. Beo vomit,

22:17

cigarettes and like cheap beer. But

22:20

there is I got a shout out. There's like, so

22:22

a lot of black leather, a lot of silver studs.

22:25

All of it's very sexy. But there's one

22:27

dude in the main band who

22:30

is wearing a head to

22:32

toe leopard print suit.

22:35

Cat suit. Yeah. That I can

22:37

only describe as Ruby Ride from

22:40

the fifth element. Oh yeah. Chef's

22:45

kiss. Yeah. Like you,

22:47

sir, are ahead of the times. It's

22:50

tremendous. And it made me think of like when I

22:52

when I watched Mad Max for the first time a

22:54

couple of months ago that it has

22:58

that crazy character. Everybody's

23:00

over the top. There's no

23:04

under the top acting in this,

23:06

which I think is

23:08

part of you have to

23:10

have that. Like you cannot put professional actors in

23:12

this movie. There's I don't think there's a professional

23:14

actor in this film when I was reading about

23:17

it. It's all just people from the punk scene.

23:19

Yeah. And they put the

23:21

end of professional wrestler and apparently just

23:23

a professional wrestler, one professional wrestler that

23:25

all of Japan knows, because apparently he's

23:27

the baddie on was it Takeshi Castle?

23:30

No. What is that movie or the TV show

23:32

where they have to like put people through like

23:35

crazy obstacle courses? Oh, I don't know. But yeah.

23:37

And then they meet like, they meet this, like,

23:39

but he's in there. OK. Yeah.

23:42

So seen this is like this is

23:44

the scene. And

23:47

so there's an authenticity to all of

23:49

the band scenes, the crowd scenes, because

23:51

people know how to look like these

23:53

are not hired extras. These are people

23:55

who are either in punk bands or

23:57

go to punk bands or both. and

24:00

and it looks so

24:03

fucking good and real the people just bobbing

24:05

their heads in the crowd are doing

24:07

it in a way that makes full

24:09

fucking sense yeah like they're not they're

24:12

not having to like like okay

24:14

action everybody get the crowd ramped

24:16

up like this crowd is ready

24:18

to go they are ready to

24:20

fucking go okay so this

24:22

very first song I think is it's

24:24

the most clear song in the sense

24:26

that you get the longest time with

24:28

the song itself and the lyrics and

24:30

it is well the first song is

24:32

cell number eight but actually the song

24:34

I mean is called everything is so

24:36

abundant yes I love this

24:38

it is this is

24:41

where I was about to text you because I

24:43

think this song is incredibly

24:45

good because it is a song

24:47

about how everything is so abundant

24:49

in the world these days that

24:52

nothing stands out we have days

24:54

of peace freedom stability it is

24:56

pain the line is painfully luxurious

24:59

yes and the thing is we all

25:01

need money but nobody has any money

25:04

yeah and this is all set in

25:06

what looks like a skid row type

25:08

of area yeah let's

25:11

let's talk about the location for

25:13

this movie like

25:17

it's half half

25:19

this movie takes place in like like

25:22

a warehouse like

25:26

total post-apocalyptic industrial

25:28

waste warehouse and

25:30

the other half takes place near that

25:33

warehouse and it's like yes

25:36

skid row is a good way to describe it but it's

25:38

like it's it kind of

25:40

like what I imagine st. Mark's must have been back

25:42

in the day where it's like a

25:45

bar a convenience store which

25:48

I love the name did you can't clock the name of the

25:50

bar cattle cattle

25:54

cattle like you're going to the cattle

25:56

club like you are cattle oh my

25:58

god I was like Man, if

26:00

I ever open a bar or a nightclub, I'm

26:03

gonna call it cattle. Cause

26:05

that is fucking dope as shit. These

26:08

are also some of the only English words that you

26:10

get, but it is this very like, it is interesting

26:12

that they're all in English and

26:14

not Japanese. So there is that kind of

26:16

like, again, I think, the

26:18

scene is like cribbing on like

26:21

Western language, Western culture a little

26:23

bit and like taking it and

26:25

it's gone underground. Yeah. But

26:28

this place is dirty and dank and covered

26:30

in broken glass. It's

26:33

gross. It's so gross. Okay,

26:36

so now we're gonna meet the Yakuza

26:38

from the Camaro and

26:42

there's kind of a

26:44

central guy here who's just mustache

26:46

man. Mustache man, yeah. So

26:50

mustache man comes

26:52

to, I think we learned this

26:54

guy's name later is Moe. Oh,

26:58

you mean lace

27:00

front widow peak? Yes, he's

27:03

got just a

27:05

very normal receded hairline of a 40

27:07

year old man. Normal. But

27:09

he is drawn with like not tattoo. I think

27:12

it's supposed to imply that this is a tattoo,

27:14

but it is very much drawn with Sharpie where

27:17

he's drawn out along

27:19

widow's peak. Yeah. But

27:22

it's drawn like a web, like a,

27:24

yeah. Like

27:27

the lace front of a wig that

27:29

extends down to like his mid forehead. Lace

27:33

front widow peak. Feather earring.

27:35

With a purple feather earring. Uh-huh. Okay,

27:39

so mustache comes to this

27:42

shanty town skid row area meets

27:44

with, yeah,

27:47

meets with lace front and

27:50

says, get me a nice girl. Lace

27:53

front. He's like, you mean this girl?

27:55

Puts a girl in front of him. And

27:58

he's like, come on, she'll do whatever, she'll do. anything, you'll

28:00

be so surprised. And

28:03

this and then, you know, we see

28:05

him with this girl being very, he's

28:08

forcing himself on this, this

28:10

sex worker. And actually

28:12

also we see that she's in like chains

28:14

and cuffs as well. So

28:17

this is a man who we have already set

28:19

up, likes it very,

28:21

very rough, very violent, is not

28:23

afraid to, is not

28:26

afraid to go to full force to

28:28

get what he wants. Like that was rough.

28:30

Yes. It's a, like that scene is rough.

28:33

And we're going to have a reprise of that scene

28:35

that is even harder. Oh yeah. Oh, it gets worse.

28:37

Yeah. But what made it even worse

28:39

for me is that like, so we get, you

28:42

know, and listen, plot

28:44

character, like we're hanging on by a thread

28:46

here. But right after

28:48

that scene in which, you

28:51

know, Matt mustache man, like kind of

28:53

forces himself on this girl, we

28:56

realized that lace front is not only

28:58

her pimp, but her

29:00

lover. And the two

29:03

of them are like naked in like kind

29:05

of what looks

29:07

like in more industrial piping. And

29:10

he's kind of like kissing

29:12

her scars. Yes. Even

29:15

worse. Yeah. I mean, this girl is like

29:17

16 at most, 17

29:21

at most. So it's like,

29:23

it's all, it's bad enough that we have to watch the

29:26

first scene with, with mustache, Yakuza man. But

29:28

it's almost even worse that this guy is

29:30

like, I love you, baby. I

29:33

love you. I'm just, and then like, we're

29:35

going to see their relationship kind of develop,

29:37

develop quote unquote. But that

29:39

made me feel even ickier. It's, it's

29:42

so icky. It is like the, this,

29:44

this movie doesn't really fall fully at

29:46

all. Really. I don't think into horror

29:48

as a, as a

29:51

monolith. I mean, this is

29:53

very, we cover a lot of horror adjacent movies

29:55

on this show. There's, there's, so

29:57

I think it counts, but it is.

30:00

But this particular relationship in

30:02

this scene is so icky like

30:04

it's it's icky er than I Was

30:07

more icked out by this than any of

30:09

like Terrifier 2, you know It's just because

30:11

it's it's it's real and

30:13

it's upsetting and it's yeah It's like I was

30:16

just like no I was getting like slight flashbacks

30:18

to in the realm of the senses Which

30:21

is so artistic and

30:23

so? But so

30:25

raw and real yeah literally real

30:27

in that it had like displays

30:29

penetrative sex But it

30:31

was so much more crafted like this

30:34

this really felt like Just

30:36

gross. Yeah, I Would

30:39

this is a this is the first moment where I

30:42

was like, I'm glad I didn't see soul-texting This is

30:44

the coolest movie I've ever seen cuz this is where

30:46

I thought oh When the

30:48

movie gets away from style and tries to go

30:50

to substance it handles it so poorly It

30:53

can't I mean this this

30:55

is a movie about Smashing guitars

30:57

on a stage. Yeah, and when

31:00

that's your energy You just can't

31:02

handle a delicate subject like grooming

31:04

and sex trafficking. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah,

31:07

okay Now

31:10

let's come race with me, baby the song

31:12

come race with me, baby and we've got

31:15

Yeah, this is so 50s

31:17

Americana. Yeah car racing

31:21

You know yeah drag racing in the middle of

31:23

nowhere. Yeah, you

31:25

got a bitch in Camaro Okay,

31:28

so let's set this up. We've got black

31:30

band and red band. Yes, so

31:32

there's there's the roost That's the rockers and

31:34

the roosters the rockers and the roosters and

31:37

the other band is called the Stalin which

31:39

is apparently an actual real Japanese

31:41

I think I think all three of them. No, I think all

31:43

three of them are real band, okay Apparently

31:45

from like all over Japan like they're they

31:48

kind of represented like three different cities. So

31:50

this is like The

31:52

creme de la creme if I could say that

31:54

of Japanese punk rock of the day. Yeah, and

31:58

I am NOT gonna know which band is which So

32:00

I'm going to primarily it seems to focus

32:02

around blockers. Yeah. The

32:05

black leather and red

32:07

mask. I kind of

32:09

called them the Crimson Tide. The Crimson Tide.

32:11

Yep. That was my name for them. But

32:13

yeah, the rockers are clearly our kind of

32:15

protagonist band. They're the

32:18

coolest. They're the ones we saw. Like their

32:20

songs are kind of the

32:22

best crafted songs as well.

32:25

We also see them kind of at their hangout.

32:28

We see them the most, let's say. So

32:32

we've got the in this drag

32:35

race, this is you've

32:37

got the red car versus the black car. So it's a

32:39

lot of this

32:42

movie deals with how there's

32:45

abuse of the people by the

32:47

establishments, by the cops and by

32:49

the Yakuza and by big business.

32:51

Yeah. Are the three things that

32:53

are all working together to destroy

32:55

the proletariat, to

32:57

destroy the oppressors. Yeah. But

33:00

what the oppressors do so well that this

33:02

movie wants you to be aware of is

33:05

by ghettoizing people,

33:08

by putting people in a ghetto, you

33:10

put them against each other. So

33:13

when you put your poor Jewish

33:16

and your poor black neighborhoods together in

33:18

Crown Heights. Yeah. This

33:21

is this is the intention of Robert

33:23

Moses. This is what we want to

33:25

happen when you're the establishment. And this

33:27

movie sets this off so well with

33:29

a drag race. The competition

33:31

of these two groups going

33:34

after each other that we get

33:36

set up right away. We know

33:38

that these bands are

33:40

always fighting. Yeah. Gangs.

33:44

Yeah, they're gangs. Yeah. So

33:47

black beats the red speed killer car

33:49

runs it off the road, sends it

33:51

tumbling. Not before it, not before we

33:54

have the most amazing mascara moment. Yes.

33:57

Yes. Magenta

33:59

mascara. It's electric blue

34:01

mascara all over this film. It's

34:04

so good. I love it because there's a this

34:07

this the guy in the black car. I'm

34:09

sorry the guy in the red car. He's the one

34:11

who takes off his sunglasses and it is the

34:14

lines that like the it's like a three

34:16

color gradient across his eyes

34:19

and it's glittery and it's bright. It

34:22

is bold colors and then it cuts

34:24

to the driver of the

34:26

black car who has kind

34:28

of a similar thing but it's all

34:30

very subtle. It's all very minor

34:33

and I love I love those

34:35

two eyes back and forth comparing themselves

34:38

to each other. Okay,

34:42

so now we have

34:45

Silver Bullet and Hey Boy and

34:47

their sidecar motorbike and

34:49

they have woken

34:52

up in one of

34:54

many rusted out old warehouses

34:57

and they awake surrounded by

34:59

a bunch of freaking

35:02

mutant dudes. Yeah, this

35:05

is where I was like, okay, we've somehow have

35:07

we found our horror film. I think we have

35:09

found, you know, grasping at straws

35:12

here be like, we're watching this for a

35:14

horror movie podcast, but I think we found

35:16

our like horror thread. There

35:19

is a dude with a lobster

35:21

claw for a hand. There's

35:26

somebody in like a

35:28

Mao get up like a

35:30

kind of like red communist China get up who

35:35

isn't just ever what also

35:38

everybody is like throughout this

35:40

movie, not just in the freaky gang

35:42

in the mutant gang, but

35:45

kind of throughout the movie people are like you'll just

35:47

see people like convulsing

35:50

on the street. Yeah, yeah, everybody's got

35:52

like there's so many people have like a

35:55

twitch or a take to them. And

35:57

I think it's like a choice for the director to be.

36:00

like there's like something

36:02

toxic in the water

36:05

in the area that is

36:07

like making people

36:10

behave this way. But yeah, I called

36:12

these guys the mutants, because they

36:14

are essentially a they're like,

36:16

they're not punk rockers.

36:19

They're just like, you know,

36:21

like a gang of

36:24

mutant homeless people, essentially.

36:28

So, you know, we, this

36:30

is going to begin our long

36:33

process. We're only like 20 minutes into this film.

36:35

So you've got to, there's going to be an

36:37

hour and 40 more of just, hey, boy

36:40

screaming. Yes. Just

36:42

screaming. And like the mutants,

36:45

the, I like the leader of the mutant

36:47

gang. He's actually like one of the better

36:49

quote, actors in this movie. I wrote, I

36:51

actually boss man is what I call man.

36:53

Yeah. Because he's

36:55

like, Hey, what's up with your little friend

36:57

there? And he's like, you know

36:59

what, it doesn't matter what's up with him. He won't

37:01

stop screaming. He'll talk to us when he's ready. No

37:04

fighting in the gang. No theft

37:07

of the gang. No theft in the gang. Don't

37:09

fuck with each other. And as long as you're

37:11

cool with that, you're cool with us. And I

37:13

was like, Oh, I can

37:15

get behind those rules. I loved

37:17

that moment too, because he's the

37:20

one person in this whole movie

37:22

who just says what's

37:24

happening and why and what

37:26

for. And that made

37:28

me so happy. I'm like, you're my favorite character

37:31

now, because I know when

37:33

you're talking, I know what's happening. Yeah.

37:37

Yeah. So now they're in this gang. Now it's

37:40

not very clear what their job in this gang

37:42

is other than to ride out on their bike

37:44

and do some shit. Like, I

37:46

don't think like this band is not really a gang

37:48

as much as they're just like a

37:51

group of the group that sticks

37:53

together to survive. Yeah. Yeah. You

37:55

know, like not not the

37:57

punk rock gang. They're like, we're in a band together

37:59

or the. the Yakuza gang, which is

38:01

like we're like out for

38:03

malicious violence. Like this is this is you know, this feels

38:05

a little bit different. We get a title

38:07

card that says Battle Rocker secret base, which is

38:09

a similar looking kind of torn

38:12

down old warehouse, the erotic down warehouse.

38:14

But we also kind of get a

38:17

setup where each of them had previous

38:19

jobs that they quit. They like take

38:21

this job and shove it. Yeah. Working

38:23

here no more. Yeah, there's a one

38:25

where he's a mechanic at an auto body shop

38:28

and his boss is yelling at him and he

38:30

just clocks in with a wrench and gets fired

38:32

another time where two other guys worked in

38:34

a factory and the Foreman is being a

38:37

real dick. So they pick him up and

38:39

throw him over the railing. Yeah. Yeah,

38:42

they body slam him, but

38:44

it's all this very like you know, we again,

38:47

it's very punk rock anti-authoritarian

38:50

like both of their bosses

38:52

are like you all are nothing but pieces

38:54

of **** you're just little grease balls that

38:56

don't mean anything. And

38:59

all of them kind of have their moment of like **** you.

39:01

Like you said, take this job and shove it. I ain't working

39:04

here no more. There's

39:06

a real like this made

39:08

me so my because this is older than

39:10

I am like I was alive when this

39:12

movie came out, but the

39:15

tone of the punk rock movement was

39:17

before my time. Sure. So like my

39:20

version of this happened when rent came

39:22

out. Yeah. And

39:24

rent is so tame and it's

39:27

tone like rent is pretty

39:29

chill, but there is a similar

39:31

thing and I think this is a long standing

39:33

thing of just being a young person and an

39:36

artist. Yeah, there's an entitlement to

39:38

like the world doesn't support us. The world

39:40

is against us. We speak the truth. We

39:42

give the truth to the world and also

39:44

our **** gets co-opted

39:47

by the big companies and they make billions

39:49

off of whatever it is that we make

39:51

and so there is a sense where in

39:53

the musical rent like we shouldn't have to

39:56

pay rent. **** you and

39:58

that's kind of what this is too. like we

40:00

shouldn't have to work for your bullshit. We

40:03

should be able to be artists. But when

40:05

they are in their secret base, the conversation

40:07

is what are we doing today? Who knows?

40:10

Don't ask me. What are we doing today?

40:12

Who knows? Don't ask me. What

40:14

time is it? Why'd you ask me that? I

40:17

love this. It's this is, this is where it's

40:20

like, it's a hardcore day's night to

40:22

me. Yeah. These kind of like

40:24

quick shots of like an

40:26

eye, the side of a mouth, like,

40:28

and it's this non, it's

40:31

just, you feel like this is what these

40:33

kids do every day, just

40:36

drifting through life. Now

40:38

we're going to meet the Kikukawa. That's

40:43

our Yakuza group. That's our Yakuza

40:45

group. But the Kikukawa is also,

40:49

they have like a, they're also like

40:51

incorporated too. So they have like the

40:53

Yakuza boss, but then they also are,

40:57

like any mafia type. Yeah. Yeah.

41:00

They're running construction. Yeah. You know what

41:02

I'm saying? The title card

41:05

for this calls them the Kikukawa clan.

41:08

Yeah. So Yakuza clan. We are,

41:10

you know, and they, they say we're fighting, we

41:12

are a fighting clan that deals with young punks.

41:14

So then they have a group of young people

41:18

that also go out to fight the other

41:20

young people who are punks. It's

41:22

like the mods and the rockers, man. Yup.

41:25

You know, I've actually never seen quadra-fenia. I

41:28

know that that's kind of what that's about. I've never seen

41:30

it, but I, it does feel like we

41:32

have divided the, the, the youth

41:34

culture into two distinct groups. Those

41:36

who are in the, you know,

41:38

the Kikukawa, who are like the

41:40

shiny suit, Teddy boy

41:43

haircuts, and then the, the

41:45

punk rockers who are like the dirty, living

41:47

on the street, living,

41:49

there's no tomorrow, living like there's no tomorrow,

41:52

kind of. They

41:54

start talking about atomic energy and

41:57

all of that's the new big thing. And so if it's

41:59

the new big thing. It needs to be us

42:01

dealing with it. They

42:03

never state this explicitly, but by the end of the

42:05

movie, I guess what I realized is happening is they

42:08

are basically

42:10

taking over these like torn down

42:12

factories where people are living because

42:14

of the social or the economic

42:17

inequality, and they

42:19

are displacing the

42:21

already displaced people, displacing them again

42:23

in order to build a nuclear

42:26

power plant. It seems to be

42:28

what's happening. Well, or they're

42:30

going to recruit them as workers. Well, that's

42:32

the thing is then they're going to also

42:34

say, well, we'll hire you on to do

42:37

work. And

42:39

so that's how you'll get paid to.

42:41

Yeah. Hey, that's not great.

42:43

It's not at all a vicious cycle. No.

42:46

Oh, by the way, you

42:48

now live at your work site. Uh-huh. So

42:50

you can work 24 hours a day. Oh,

42:54

you don't like that? Then we're going

42:56

to put you in a room and water

42:58

hose you. Yeah, because you stink and that you

43:00

need to be rinsed off, which is very much

43:03

like prison. Right. Like the idea of like

43:05

the delousing spray that they that I

43:07

don't know that they do that. I have

43:09

no idea, but that's certainly the vibe you

43:11

get from this. Yeah. Now we

43:13

go to another concert that's happening where

43:15

the the the rockers are up on

43:18

stage. The the black leather band is

43:20

up on stage. They are performing and

43:22

then a person in a red mask. This is

43:25

the group, the Stalin. Yeah. They

43:27

are. I believe that's who these people are. Assume

43:29

that they're the Stalin because they're in all red

43:31

with like a black star on their forehead and

43:33

mask. Anyways, well, they

43:36

do a full like attack them on

43:38

stage, take over their show, and

43:41

then it causes a full fucking fight in

43:43

the audience and amongst the band. Fucking

43:46

love this. I love that there's chaos.

43:49

The music never stops because one

43:51

of the Stalin members just grabs the drum. The

43:54

drumstick sits down and just starts playing. Eventually,

43:56

one of the other guys grabs the bass

43:59

guitar starts playing. I

50:00

don't quite know how they got

50:02

this perfect of a shot, but it is

50:04

like, it's like a kind of

50:06

blue and red lights to kind of signal

50:08

the dream, but there's a flickering kind of

50:10

almost ice blue light on his face. So

50:13

his face is flickering in and out of the

50:15

shape of his head. But it's not his whole

50:18

face. It's just like the eye, it's like just

50:20

the mask. Like, you know, when you get those

50:22

little domino masks that just go over your eyes

50:24

and nose, it's just that. And you can see

50:26

a little bit of a mustache, but

50:29

it's so, it's so well that

50:31

it's so backlit. It's like saturated. Like

50:34

it's, like it's pretty fucking

50:36

dope. It's really good. So

50:40

that's who they're ultimately looking for.

50:43

But let's go to this, the camp

50:45

Kekakawa. And,

50:49

you know, Silver Bullet

50:51

very much, he doesn't have

50:54

dialogue. He doesn't say things. He's also nonverbal,

50:57

but different than Hey Boy. Hey

50:59

Boy just goes, Hey Boy just screams,

51:01

Hey. Yeah. Hey Boy, Hey. And

51:05

Silver Bullet is all like physical

51:08

energy. He, when

51:10

we see him actually working, they're

51:12

having them dig this pit. And

51:14

he is digging by hand into

51:16

the ground. And like the, the like

51:19

film is like sped up. So

51:22

he's just like digging really fast with

51:24

his hands. And everybody is looking around

51:26

like, Oh my God. So you

51:28

get the sense that he's like mutant

51:31

strong. Yeah. I got

51:33

some of the implication that maybe there's like nuclear

51:36

mutations that have happened to people here

51:38

too. Anyway,

51:41

so the app, there we are. Okay. So

51:44

that's what's happening with the work group. But they, at

51:46

the end of the day, they

51:48

trick them all into entering this

51:50

like building, this out building. I

51:53

think they told them they were going to get fed

51:55

or get drink. I think they were supposed to get,

51:58

get food in there. They all end up there. and

52:00

the doors are locked and then all of

52:02

these... And then who should be there but

52:04

Lacefront, that motherfucker,

52:08

is like, hey, you

52:10

know what? If you live at your work site,

52:13

you should be working 24 hours a day. Yeah.

52:16

So you sleep here now, that's how

52:18

this works. You've been

52:20

indentured. Uh-huh. And

52:23

then they start hosing them down because they all stink.

52:26

You know, they're kind of up above, right?

52:28

I took that as less of like, they

52:30

actually sink, it's more of like, crowd

52:33

control. It totally is. Like,

52:35

do like fire hoses on

52:37

rioters. Yes. Kind of

52:39

crowd control. Like, they're not

52:41

showering, they're not like, here's some soap. It

52:44

is like, pure demoralization. They're

52:46

telling them because you stink, you need to

52:48

be washed, but what they're doing is the

52:50

ultimate, just power move. Yeah. And

52:53

it is... The silver bullet... None of

52:55

it. ...is having none of this. Uh-uh. He

53:00

climbs this wall and

53:03

bursts through this door and

53:05

just single-handedly starts whipping ass

53:07

in super fast motion. And

53:10

everybody comes with him. Like, everybody flows out of

53:12

there and like, hell yeah, we're kicking ass. Yeah,

53:15

the mutant gang is now like, united behind him.

53:18

The leader of the mutant gang has like...

53:21

Maybe that's, oh, this is later. But like, kind

53:23

of, I mean, later now... No, it's

53:25

all happened. But he

53:27

has like, sticks

53:30

of dynamite taped to his

53:32

forehead? The best fucking hat

53:34

of all time. Absolutely. It's so good.

53:36

He has a makeshift hat that has,

53:38

yeah, sticks. It

53:41

looks like a chef's tuk, right? Yeah.

53:43

And it's got sticks of dynamite going all

53:45

the way around it. It's so fucking rad.

53:48

If I ever get invited to the Kentucky Derby,

53:50

that's what I'm wearing for my fancy hat. Ha

53:52

ha ha. Yeah,

53:57

and they fucking... destroyed

54:00

it. destroy these the

54:02

Yakuza basically. Meanwhile,

54:05

let's go back to what's happening

54:07

with our band. The Battle of

54:10

Vans. Because, okay, so now we have our first showdown between

54:12

the cop and so

54:14

there's one particular smug

54:16

cop is what I called him. He's

54:19

like, I'm the best cop in the city and

54:21

the rockers are like, that's not saying much. And

54:28

you know, he's

54:30

the leader of the rockers,

54:32

black leather band, like bows up

54:35

to the cop to the where they get into a

54:37

fight. Yeah, and kind of

54:39

like knocks him out like one point. He does. Yeah.

54:43

It, he wallops that fucking cop. Yeah. The

54:45

cop draws his gun and then just arrests

54:47

all of them. And then

54:49

of course in jail, they're all fighting

54:51

amongst themselves. Yeah. Okay,

54:54

so now we've got lace

54:56

front widow's peak has gotten

54:58

back together with his

55:00

young girl. Oh my God,

55:03

this scene. He's like, Hey, why are

55:05

you so sad? You look so sad here. I

55:07

bought you this new shirt. Look it looks so

55:09

good on you. And he just like drapes it

55:11

over her shoulders. And

55:13

she's like, I want out of

55:15

this life. And

55:17

he's like, just, you know, I know this is

55:20

a hard life, but you know, just

55:22

he's a really important mustache guy is

55:24

a really important client. Just

55:27

keep doing what you're doing. And I swear

55:29

we'll go out and live in the countryside

55:31

someday. Just one

55:34

more job. You just got to do one more job. Just

55:36

one more job that could get us out of here. Okay.

55:41

So unfortunately, he, she's

55:44

going to end up back in front of mustache man.

55:47

And I will admit the shirt that he

55:50

got her is actually kind of kick ass.

55:53

It's really good. It's a full, it's a white

55:55

shirt with a series of like buckles. Yeah.

55:57

It looks like 80. punk

56:01

rock straight jacket.

56:03

Yes. Which is very in

56:05

at the time, which is actually kind of like,

56:07

you see that a lot in, you know, like

56:09

sort of eight British punk rock fashion. That kind

56:12

of like Vivian Westwood, like lots of crazy buckles

56:14

and like, but it's, it's a, for

56:17

an 80s punk rock movie, it's a pretty good, pretty dope shirt.

56:19

Unfortunately, this, I

56:23

want this scene to be handled better, but

56:25

I think this scene is

56:27

much more like a horror movie. And

56:29

I do feel like this

56:31

is where I felt very Tarantino,

56:33

cause he comes out this time.

56:35

Yeah. This is the most exploitation

56:37

grind house kind of plot line

56:39

here. And he, he also

56:41

comes, the mustache men comes when

56:44

we see him in the room, he's with

56:46

two women. One is, I think

56:48

her name is Sawa, our main girl who is chained

56:51

face down on a bed and the are

56:53

tied face down on the bed. And the

56:55

other girl is handcuffed up

56:58

on the floor. I couldn't even tell

57:00

if that was a girl. I thought it was a guy. Oh,

57:02

it might be. I have no idea. I couldn't, we never really

57:05

see or hear from that person. And,

57:07

and, and, you know, and keep in mind mustache

57:09

guy is in a like full

57:13

leather fetish mask, like

57:16

harness that goes into like

57:18

a caught leather codpiece. Like, Hey, you

57:20

know, listen, I've been to like quite a

57:23

few fetish kink nights. That's

57:25

some pretty good shit. Like he's wearing

57:27

it well. He's doing some despicable things, but

57:30

he is definitely into the sort of

57:32

BDSM kink side of things, but like

57:35

he's, you know, he's got the girl,

57:37

like our main girl, like

57:39

chained to the bed. And

57:42

he's just beating the crap out of what I thought

57:44

was a guy. Might be. And it's like,

57:46

it doesn't seem sexual or it, if

57:48

it is, it is more about like

57:51

the physical harm. So, but the sadism

57:53

sex with, yeah, the sadism with that

57:55

person, our

57:58

girl sees that this

58:00

and she gets, she's like, Hey, stop

58:02

your, you know, she tries to like

58:05

stop him. So

58:07

he starts pummeling on her and

58:12

he kills her. He chokes her.

58:14

Yeah. And he does, we don't

58:17

see what else he does because next time we see her,

58:19

there's blood all over the bed. So it's, he stabbed her

58:21

with something too. But

58:23

yeah, we just see him start to choke her. And

58:27

it is when Lacefront,

58:29

Widows Pete comes

58:31

in to check on them. He just,

58:33

that dude, Mustache is still just squatted

58:36

over both bodies. Does

58:39

look like the boy or the

58:41

other person in the room is still

58:44

alive, I think. Yes.

58:46

Like still kind of handcuffed, but

58:48

like, okay, maybe. Lacefront

58:51

starts beating him with a cane. And then

58:53

it turns out that cane is actually a

58:55

secret sword inside of a cane. And then

58:57

he just straight up just stabs him through

58:59

the gut. It stabs him in the

59:01

kidney. Yeah. Like it's,

59:04

it's pretty brutal. And then like all the yukus that

59:06

kind of come pouring in. And

59:08

it's crazy because like, essentially you've had like

59:11

a coup because you know,

59:13

Mustache Man is like the head or is one

59:15

of the heads of this group.

59:19

And Lacefront just goes, get the fuck out of here.

59:21

I'm your new boss now. Kind of. And

59:24

also like, and then goes to this whole thing of like crying

59:27

and screaming over the girl.

59:30

Yes. And also

59:32

the yukus is also good because all

59:34

of this is happening simultaneously to the

59:36

right, to the mutants, overthrowing

59:38

the yukus, the headquarters

59:41

of this business and murdering the head

59:43

boss guy there. Oh my God. Which

59:46

is a fucking great death. Oh,

59:48

they run his head up through the

59:50

ceiling tiles. Pin him up there

59:52

and then they basically just bleed

59:55

him out by stabbing him from below. They

59:57

bleed him out and then they take.

1:00:00

a piece of like corrugated

1:00:02

iron and chain him to

1:00:04

it and

1:00:06

then parade him through the streets

1:00:10

into the middle of

1:00:12

a battle of the bands. I

1:00:16

really think I would love to see, I

1:00:18

don't think I have any notes for this

1:00:20

movie of how to improve this

1:00:22

film because I think they achieved what they set

1:00:24

out to do for this film, but I would

1:00:26

love to see, because I think the story and

1:00:28

the message and the characters in this movie are

1:00:31

so, I don't know if

1:00:33

it would be good, but I would be

1:00:35

really curious to see like a Quentin

1:00:37

Tarantino made, I hate to keep bringing him

1:00:39

up, but like, or Rob,

1:00:41

you know, somebody with an understanding and

1:00:43

a little more deft hand of like

1:00:45

storied filmmaking. Yeah, of storytelling of screenplay

1:00:47

because that shit's

1:00:49

dope as hell and I would love more

1:00:52

clarity, but there is a neat structure to

1:00:54

this because everything is happening all at once

1:00:56

because we've got a silver bullet in Hey

1:00:59

Boy looking for the killer.

1:01:01

Like leading their revolution. Leading their revolution.

1:01:03

We've got the battle of the bands,

1:01:05

literally the bands battling each other. We've

1:01:08

got the Yakuza falling apart and

1:01:11

we've got the police trying

1:01:14

to do full riot control over the

1:01:17

thing and ultimately what's going

1:01:19

to turn everyone in back

1:01:22

on the system is the building of

1:01:24

a nuclear power plant. Yes. So

1:01:27

all of that being said, I love

1:01:29

that everything, so many things culminate into

1:01:32

in by simultaneous

1:01:34

happenings. Okay,

1:01:37

now let's get to the battle of the bands. Oh

1:01:39

my God. Listen,

1:01:42

if you've ever wanted to see a punk rock

1:01:44

version of do you hear the people sing from

1:01:46

them as a Rob? This is it.

1:01:50

Because the Stalin show

1:01:53

up in a fucking truck drum

1:01:56

kit guitars, they're on the back of a truck.

1:01:58

Like the Stalin has like. Like they're a

1:02:00

little bit of a gimmick band. They've

1:02:03

got their color scheme, that's cool,

1:02:05

I'm into that. But like the

1:02:07

lead singer loves that bullhorn. It's

1:02:10

a style, it's a choice, it's a

1:02:13

style, that's their thing, I

1:02:15

like it. So they're like

1:02:17

driving through Skid Row, just

1:02:21

saying get the fuck out of our way, we've

1:02:23

come here to challenge the

1:02:25

rockers once again. And

1:02:28

I like giant red flag flying,

1:02:31

like it's like the end of

1:02:33

act one in lamos. It's

1:02:36

fucking great. It's so good. And

1:02:39

of course, the rockers,

1:02:41

black leather band. They planned to show

1:02:43

that night. They stormed the stage and

1:02:46

do the same thing that happened just

1:02:48

in reverse from earlier and take over

1:02:50

this concert on the back

1:02:52

of this flatbed. I

1:02:54

love the, lead singer of the

1:02:56

rockers is so fucking cool. Like

1:03:00

he, he's so good looking, he's got

1:03:02

great makeup, he's got great eyes. They have a

1:03:04

lot of close ups on his eyes. And

1:03:07

he's also like arguably one of

1:03:09

the better actors of

1:03:12

the group, like he's the one who punches out

1:03:14

the cop. He's the one who drives the bitch

1:03:16

and Camaro in the race. He's cool boy. He's

1:03:19

like ice cold. And he has the

1:03:21

best line in this movie, eat

1:03:24

shit you fuckers. No, I'm sorry. Eat

1:03:26

my shit, you fuckers. Yes, absolutely.

1:03:29

Are you ready for poetry hour? Yes. Oh,

1:03:32

I'm so excited. They play a song that,

1:03:34

you know, at this point, like we're almost

1:03:37

done with this movie, but

1:03:39

I was gagged and I had to stop

1:03:42

and rewind and write these

1:03:44

lyrics down. Open the

1:03:46

refrigerator and looked inside. I

1:03:50

was mesmerized. Pigs

1:03:52

testicles and

1:03:55

cow shit. Raw

1:03:57

eggs that won't rot. All

1:04:00

I got is money. All

1:04:02

I got is tomorrow. All

1:04:05

I got is blindness. All

1:04:08

I got is a penis. Penis

1:04:11

penis. Yes.

1:04:18

So good. Yes,

1:04:21

absolutely. Just like this movie,

1:04:23

the whole movie, that song sums up the

1:04:25

whole movie in that At

1:04:28

the heart of it, I totally get what you're saying. Yeah. I

1:04:31

understand those lyrics holistically. Yeah.

1:04:35

Specifically, I don't know where you're going or what you're

1:04:37

talking about. No. But

1:04:39

once I can see your whole thing. Yes.

1:04:43

I get it. Totally get it. All I

1:04:45

got is a penis. Penis penis penis. Okay,

1:04:51

so now we're in full, like

1:04:53

bands are fighting the... There's

1:04:56

like a band on one end, like the Rockers are

1:04:58

on one end, the

1:05:01

Crimson Tide is on the other, the

1:05:03

Stalin's on the other, and we're having

1:05:05

an actual battle of the bands. And

1:05:07

I kind of fucking love this because

1:05:09

it's like, it's what I

1:05:11

always imagined a battle of the bands to be,

1:05:14

but never is. You

1:05:17

know, it's like literally we put two bands in

1:05:19

a room and people

1:05:21

are just going back and forth and the middle

1:05:23

is just a mosh

1:05:26

pit of anarchy. But we've

1:05:28

got a couple other things happening

1:05:30

now because now we've got the

1:05:32

mutant gang parading the dead body

1:05:35

of the Kiku Kawa leader into

1:05:37

town. The cops have already tried fighting.

1:05:41

They had a severed pig's head thrown at them. Yes,

1:05:45

because the Stalin loves a prop. They

1:05:47

love some props and costumes. They do.

1:05:49

They absolutely do. And so

1:05:53

now the cops are sending in the riot police. Yes.

1:05:57

So we've got dead body of Yakuza

1:05:59

paraded. in the town driven

1:06:01

by on a giant tractor loader thing

1:06:03

by silver bullet and

1:06:07

we've got riot cops

1:06:10

showing up we've got the two bands that are

1:06:12

already fighting each other and then all the mosh's

1:06:15

and basically the riot

1:06:17

squad is like if you don't shut down

1:06:19

this protest you'll be arrested and so like

1:06:21

this is the moment we learn oh this

1:06:23

is a protest we're against the nuclear power

1:06:25

I don't even know if they were I

1:06:28

think maybe they were just told your protesting

1:06:30

I know right and then they're like

1:06:32

oh we're protesting well fuck yeah we're

1:06:34

fighting together and it mobilizes them to

1:06:37

all go in on

1:06:40

the cops and

1:06:43

then there's a moment where okay so

1:06:45

there's just a bunch of like stylized

1:06:48

screaming and crazy violence and

1:06:50

fighting somebody in

1:06:54

somebody in the rockers band is electrocuted and

1:06:56

burned alive I thought it was like the

1:06:58

Stalin though it might have been the Stalin

1:07:01

guy yeah it's like yeah they've got like

1:07:04

like wand tasers that

1:07:07

hits a chord that

1:07:09

electrifies the entire stage I think it's the

1:07:12

Stalin I think you're right I think you're

1:07:14

right and

1:07:16

like that entire band burnt to

1:07:18

a crisp applause

1:07:22

absolutely what a way to go they

1:07:24

would have like I mean yes absolutely

1:07:26

the most theatrical villain band

1:07:29

absolutely deserve this death and earned this

1:07:31

death uh-huh like complete with like going

1:07:33

you know like

1:07:35

making like a chalk outline in the sky

1:07:37

and then with like animated red lines around

1:07:39

them going perfect

1:07:42

absolutely and boss man of the

1:07:44

mutants is throwing dynamite

1:07:46

sticks out of his hat yes to

1:07:48

blow up every right

1:07:51

cops yeah the right cops throwing them mostly mostly

1:07:53

aimed at the right cops yes it's

1:07:55

just there's a shit ton of just

1:07:57

explosions happening everywhere that is wild all

1:08:00

Always unclear. The soundtrack?

1:08:02

Screaming. But

1:08:08

we've, Hey Boy and Silver

1:08:10

Bullet find their man. Yes.

1:08:14

And again, we see the overlay of

1:08:16

his face, the flickering face man, and

1:08:19

they, the whole crowd

1:08:22

grabs him. It is a, we're

1:08:24

all in this together. This is the

1:08:26

moment where every oppressed person is on

1:08:28

the same team. And

1:08:31

so everyone in the crowd is grabbing

1:08:33

this man and it's not specific, but

1:08:35

it looks like they're pulling him apart.

1:08:38

Yeah, you don't. Yeah. He just

1:08:40

sort of goes down. Yeah. And you

1:08:42

don't really see what happens. But yeah, that's

1:08:44

the implication is that they literally tear apart

1:08:46

this corrupt Yakuza boss that killed all these,

1:08:48

that killed Hey Boy's family. Oh, so long

1:08:50

ago, Hey Boy and Silver

1:08:53

Bullet, they're done. They're like, yeah. They, Hey Boy's

1:08:55

wide eyes be like, great. And they get in

1:08:57

their bike and ride. Awesome. Like

1:09:00

fucking dope. Like so Mad Max, like, listen,

1:09:03

we're not here for all this other bullshit. We've

1:09:05

accomplished our goal. We have nothing

1:09:07

to tie us here. See

1:09:09

in the wind. Well, they got

1:09:12

out just in time because now the space

1:09:14

cops have arrived. Oh my God, Jeffrey. So

1:09:18

there's normal cops. Then

1:09:20

there's riot cops. Yeah. Yeah. And

1:09:24

then the storm

1:09:27

troopers from space balls shows up

1:09:31

because that is what they are like

1:09:35

white and black, mostly, but

1:09:37

like white bubble helmets. They've

1:09:40

got futuristic guns. They're

1:09:42

set up on top of their cars

1:09:44

at the edge of skid row outside

1:09:46

the cattle club. Absolutely.

1:09:49

Yes. Yes,

1:09:51

please. Please. And

1:09:53

they blow up every

1:09:56

building. Yeah. They're just

1:09:58

like, they're like, they have guns that

1:10:00

are so. powerful they're just shooting into

1:10:02

the buildings themselves to just like mass

1:10:05

destruction. Yeah, I just

1:10:07

wrote space cops open fire and fucking

1:10:09

everything explodes. Everything

1:10:11

explodes. And there's

1:10:14

a moment right after we

1:10:16

just see everything just go up in

1:10:18

huge explosions. The crowd is dead quiet.

1:10:20

Everyone's ducked down and it's just silent.

1:10:23

And then boss man pulls a stick of

1:10:25

dynamite from his head and it's like, bitches,

1:10:28

it's back on. Let's go. It's

1:10:31

now it's our turn. Yeah, we've

1:10:33

got the rockers could

1:10:35

just go and ape shit screaming. Just

1:10:38

go and ham on these cops. And

1:10:41

smug cop shows up with a gun. Yes.

1:10:44

Oh my god. Yeah. Like they're on the stage. You

1:10:48

know, like the guitar it like it's. It's

1:10:51

wild. It's like the guitarist is

1:10:54

like simultaneously like playing guitar, hitting

1:10:57

people, hitting cops with the guitar,

1:10:59

hitting the guitar on the stage,

1:11:02

playing like it's just a constant

1:11:05

circle of rage. Yeah. But then with

1:11:07

that, but then when asshole cop shows

1:11:09

up. It's like

1:11:11

you can tell it's a showdown. Yeah. Like

1:11:14

they're going for each other. And leather

1:11:18

leather rocker has no weapon of any

1:11:20

kind. It's just him and the cop

1:11:22

has his gun. And it's

1:11:24

so funny because somebody just runs

1:11:26

by, grabs the gun, takes off.

1:11:30

And you see smug cops face like, oh

1:11:33

shit. And

1:11:37

rocker leather man just cold

1:11:39

cocks him, just knocks him out fucking. Oh no,

1:11:41

flying leg. He does a flying kick. Oh yes,

1:11:44

that's right. Yeah. He does. He does like a

1:11:46

full flying leg kick. And

1:11:48

then says amazing. And he like puts his fist in

1:11:50

the air. Yeah. This little

1:11:53

tiny short black glove. Yeah. And

1:11:56

says don't fuck with me. Yes.

1:12:00

And then we get a quick montage

1:12:02

of all the bands and rioters or

1:12:04

protesters or people. It's I don't know.

1:12:06

It's just a flurry of this to

1:12:08

punk music. But it then goes to

1:12:10

kind of what happened and how we

1:12:13

started the movie, which is point

1:12:15

of view camera, fast, blurry motion

1:12:17

of of

1:12:20

sidecar and mask of of Silver Bullet

1:12:22

and Heyboy racing through

1:12:24

the city streets at night of Tokyo

1:12:28

to punk music. It's beautiful.

1:12:31

It's symmetry. It's

1:12:33

great. Shall we rate this

1:12:35

film? Yes, let's. Okay,

1:12:38

let's let's start with how approachable is

1:12:40

this movie if your horror film averse

1:12:42

on a scale of one to 10

1:12:44

with one being not at all

1:12:46

approachable 10 being super approachable if you are

1:12:48

horror averse. I mean, I

1:12:50

might give Burst City eight

1:12:54

leather punk daddies out of 10. I mean, speaking

1:12:58

of horror averse like I think there's a

1:13:00

certain set of devices,

1:13:03

archetypes, feelings that

1:13:06

horror movies give people that they're

1:13:08

averse to. And this

1:13:10

movie has none of those things really.

1:13:12

I think the worst part

1:13:14

in terms of like the most horror movie

1:13:17

element of this movie is the sex

1:13:23

trade that's happening here and the

1:13:26

the assault of this woman and then the later

1:13:28

murder of this woman and beating of these these

1:13:30

two people that he's with. That's

1:13:32

pretty brutal. That can be seen in

1:13:34

kind of a normal intense drama, but

1:13:36

it does have a real horror

1:13:38

element to it. So obviously

1:13:42

content warning like it's not approachable if that

1:13:45

is if you were just averse to that

1:13:47

as a topic or averse to strobe effects

1:13:51

or averse to constant screaming. This

1:13:54

movie is not approachable. Non-stop screaming. So

1:13:56

I'm only rating this for people who

1:13:58

are averse to horror. horror films,

1:14:00

I think this movie's very approachable.

1:14:03

So let's say eight out of 10 for

1:14:05

horror approachability, but to say nothing

1:14:07

of approachability, how do you rate this as a horror

1:14:10

film Cecil? You know,

1:14:12

it's pretty low. Yeah. Not

1:14:14

gonna lie, it's pretty low. Like there is

1:14:16

that sort of like mutant toxic

1:14:19

Avenger, you've got a dude with

1:14:21

a crab claw smoking a cigarette,

1:14:23

you've got some shady characters that

1:14:26

are kind of like mutant horror

1:14:28

80s archetype, but

1:14:31

really it's like two out

1:14:33

of 10. Yeah. You

1:14:35

know. It's not a horror film. Yeah, two

1:14:37

out of 10 electric guitars. Yeah. Okay,

1:14:41

well let's figure out what movie

1:14:44

we will watch next. You have a scare die,

1:14:46

I have a style die, we'll roll those up,

1:14:49

see what movie matches those two things. So

1:14:51

Cecil, if you roll a one, our

1:14:53

next movie scare is Altered States. If

1:14:56

you roll a two, it's technology. Three,

1:14:58

a wild card, whatever scare we want.

1:15:00

Four, Mother Earth is our scare. Five,

1:15:03

demons or six, ghosts. That's

1:15:06

a six. Ghosts. It's

1:15:09

a ghost. Okay,

1:15:11

so we're gonna have to match up

1:15:13

your scare of ghosts to whatever style

1:15:15

I roll. If I roll a one,

1:15:17

our ghost movie's gotta be in

1:15:20

and around a college or university. If

1:15:22

I roll a two, it's gotta have exactly a three

1:15:25

word title. Three, it's gotta be

1:15:27

a sequel, prequel, a remake. Four, Giallo

1:15:29

or let's say Giallo-ish, since

1:15:32

we have ghosts. Five,

1:15:35

1960s film or six, an urban film, big

1:15:38

city horror. Let's see what we got. I

1:15:41

got a two, three word title for Ghosh.

1:15:46

Oh shit, we got some really good ones that you and

1:15:49

I wrote down. We also have a letterbox to count that

1:15:51

if you follow Random Horror 9 on Letterboxd, you

1:15:53

can see all of the possible die rolls that

1:15:56

we have available and you can just leave comments.

1:15:58

Help us pick better. movies. Although

1:16:00

I will say that I do think we have some

1:16:02

pretty dope ass ones here. Some pretty good ones here.

1:16:05

Okay. Let me tell you- Some classics, some heavy hitters.

1:16:07

Let me tell you what I wrote down and then

1:16:09

we'll check in on, you can tell

1:16:11

us what letterbox that's Cecil. Okay.

1:16:13

Hell House LLC. Oh

1:16:16

yes. Scariest shit. Scariest

1:16:18

shows. Ghosty as hell. It's great found footage

1:16:20

kind of, oh

1:16:23

my god, about a group of kids trying

1:16:25

to open a haunted house that is actually

1:16:27

haunted. The most upsetting clown I've ever seen

1:16:29

and I am including- I'm poltergeist and it.

1:16:32

The Evil Dead. Yeah. We've

1:16:37

done Army of Darkness for the

1:16:39

show, but we've never done Evil Dead or Evil

1:16:41

Dead 2. No, we have not. And I've never

1:16:43

seen The Evil Dead. I've seen Evil Dead 2.

1:16:46

Yeah. Oh yeah. Another

1:16:49

classic, The Amityville Horror. And

1:16:52

you know, I don't think I've ever seen

1:16:54

the original Amityville Horror in its entirety. Oh,

1:16:56

okay. Like I think I might have seen

1:16:58

it all, but not start

1:17:01

to finish. Like I would catch 20 minutes

1:17:03

here or it'd be on TV or, you

1:17:05

know, so I've seen the ending and I've

1:17:07

seen the middle, but

1:17:09

I've never seen it front to back. Okay. Yeah. And

1:17:12

I've never seen this movie. I have read the book, but I've

1:17:14

never seen the film. Okay.

1:17:17

So we also have House

1:17:19

of Usher, very classic film. This is going

1:17:21

to be in our Vincent Price. Oh

1:17:24

yes. Sarah. Um, there's

1:17:27

another one from, I believe from that

1:17:29

same era called The Haunted Palace. This

1:17:32

is a 1963 horror

1:17:34

film starring Vincent Price and Lon

1:17:36

Chaney Jr. So of

1:17:39

that era, I will bet, having never seen

1:17:41

this movie, that it is about a palace

1:17:44

that is haunted. Uh oh. By

1:17:46

ghosts. Another

1:17:49

one that I thought is interesting.

1:17:51

This is more horror adjacent, more

1:17:53

thrillery, but it's what lies beneath

1:17:55

Harrison Ford and Michelle Pfeiffer. We

1:17:57

saw what was the name of

1:18:00

the... the Indian film that

1:18:02

we watched. Oh, that's right. Oh, Roz? Was

1:18:04

that what it was called? Yeah, yeah. That

1:18:08

was a Bollywood film based off

1:18:10

of this story. And

1:18:12

so- I remember when What Lies Beneath came

1:18:14

out and everybody was like, oh, it's so sexy. Sexy

1:18:17

thriller. Those like, is it 90s? Like

1:18:20

early 2000s? I think like 90s. Yeah,

1:18:23

I want to say. That era of like

1:18:25

sexy thrillers. Yeah. It's really big

1:18:27

then. Maybe we have too many other really great true

1:18:29

horror films to get to this one that I thought

1:18:32

worth a mention since we covered a

1:18:34

remake of the story. And then finally,

1:18:36

The Sixth Sense. Yeah.

1:18:38

Full on three word title,

1:18:40

very famous and ghosts. Yeah.

1:18:43

All right. So that's what we have

1:18:45

on our list. Let's see what

1:18:47

letterboxed brought to the

1:18:49

table. Well, we got a shit ton of these. Yeah, we've got

1:18:51

quite a few. We got quite a few. Let's

1:18:54

see. King and commoner recommends

1:18:57

Sadako versus Kayako. Oh, yes.

1:18:59

Ringos versus Juwango. Thank you.

1:19:03

Absolutely. Bidi-gigga-vigga.

1:19:07

Jeffrey enjoyed the first one way more than they expected. So

1:19:09

I'll toss out paranormal activity two or three

1:19:11

or four just to see if you'd like

1:19:13

any of those any better. I think

1:19:15

the one I want to see the most out

1:19:17

of the paranormal activity thing is paranormal activity three.

1:19:21

That's the one that's the home. They've

1:19:24

set up home cameras and they play. I've seen

1:19:26

the clip of they have a camera that they

1:19:28

set up on a rotating fan. So

1:19:31

it pivots back and forth between kitchen and

1:19:33

living room horrifying. And they do a really

1:19:35

cool effect using that camera. Horrifying.

1:19:39

Ashy-slashy recommends the Enfield Haunting

1:19:41

from 2015. Much

1:19:44

more grounded and in their opinion, terrifying adaptation

1:19:47

of the story that inspired The Conjuring 2.

1:19:51

Ashy-slashy also recommends Talk to Me from

1:19:53

2022. Sort

1:19:55

of unclear what kind of spirits are stored in

1:19:57

the embalmed hand, a bud lined between ghosts and

1:19:59

demons. blurry enough to make this count. I've not seen

1:20:01

this one. I think you have. I have. Yeah. Yeah.

1:20:05

It kind of slipped through my radar because it's like, Oh, we'll

1:20:07

watch it for the show. Eventually. Evil

1:20:09

Dead Rise 2023. Definitely.

1:20:12

If you count ghost demons, does it is

1:20:14

a ghost? Is a demon? Yeah. Doesn't matter.

1:20:17

Yeah. I liked Evil Dead Rise a lot.

1:20:20

It's it's sort of takes

1:20:22

Evil Dead and then puts it in the

1:20:24

Hollywood Tower of Terror. Nice. And

1:20:27

trick or treat. And anthology majority tales

1:20:29

are not concentric, but one of them

1:20:31

definitely does venture into that territory. Monstrum

1:20:34

recommends The Devil's Backbone. That's a good

1:20:37

one. Oh, yeah. Lives at an orphanage

1:20:39

in the midst of war and discovers

1:20:41

the dark secret at harbor's classic

1:20:44

del Toro. I think this is like the

1:20:46

first del Toro film

1:20:49

that I saw. Uh huh. It

1:20:52

was like one of the I was like, Oh,

1:20:54

this is when horror can be classy. Like you

1:20:56

can make actually

1:20:58

scary movies that have actual pathos

1:21:01

that are classy as fuck. Yeah.

1:21:04

Great recommendation. Fifth

1:21:06

Hammer recommends Castle

1:21:08

of Blood. A

1:21:11

cynical journalist accepts a wager from Egg or Alan

1:21:13

Poe that he won't survive the night in a

1:21:15

haunted castle. It unlocks an

1:21:17

odyssey of sexual torment, undead

1:21:19

vengeance, and a dark seductress

1:21:21

played by Barbara Steele. Yes.

1:21:24

Who surrenders the gravest of

1:21:26

pleasures. Sexy.

1:21:28

Oh, the gravest of pleasures

1:21:31

is a great phrase. Yeah.

1:21:33

Basic Tunnel recommends Gungeom, Haunted Asylum.

1:21:35

Oh, yeah. A group of hot,

1:21:38

young South Korean spooky influencers decide

1:21:40

to live scream their tour of

1:21:42

the titular haunted location.

1:21:45

Blair Witch Cross with J-Hore inspired ghost

1:21:47

stuff. It rules. Yeah. That one sounds

1:21:49

really fucking good. Spunky

1:21:53

Blah also recommends The Sixth Sense. Oz

1:21:55

Conway also recommends Talk to Me, the best

1:21:59

Australian horror in years. Cronenberg

1:22:01

TA recommends Kill Baby Kill. This is

1:22:03

one that I've put on the list

1:22:05

a few times. A

1:22:07

Carpathian village is haunted by the ghost of

1:22:09

a murderous little girl, prompting a coroner and

1:22:11

a medical student to uncover her

1:22:14

secrets while a witch attempts to

1:22:16

protect the villagers. Directed

1:22:18

by Mario Bava. Nice. Sarah

1:22:21

Scarehound Scarehound seconds talk to me.

1:22:23

And the skeleton key. A hospice

1:22:25

nurse working at a New Orleans

1:22:27

plantation home finds herself entangled in

1:22:29

a mystery involving the house's dark

1:22:31

past. This is kind of a

1:22:33

fun early 2000s film. Like

1:22:35

the cast is phenomenal. They

1:22:38

also recommend Stir of Echoes, which we've covered for

1:22:41

this film. Which we've covered totally. Eric

1:22:43

Riley recommends The Night House. A

1:22:46

woman processing the death of her husband

1:22:48

experiences unusual phenomena in her home that

1:22:50

leads her to question everything she knows

1:22:53

about her relationship and

1:22:55

herself. Yeah, I've seen

1:22:57

this recommended a few times on our Patreon when

1:22:59

we ask for our Patreon live stream films. This

1:23:01

is one I haven't gotten around to in the

1:23:04

way that I want to see it, but I'm saving myself

1:23:06

for the show sort of thing. But I've heard

1:23:08

good things. For the gravest

1:23:10

of desires. Yeah. Weaponized

1:23:14

Toaster, Second Hell House, LLC,

1:23:16

The Amityville Horror, and also

1:23:18

recommends Suicide Forest Village from

1:23:20

2021. Some friends unleash

1:23:24

a curse after stumbling upon a mysterious box.

1:23:26

What is in the box? To break the

1:23:28

curse, they venture deep within the Jukai

1:23:31

Forest. And it's said that the

1:23:33

land holds a grudge, and after people enter, they can

1:23:35

never come out. Okay. Oh, I like

1:23:37

that. Okay, Panic

1:23:40

recommends Dead of Night from

1:23:43

1945. An anthology horror

1:23:45

with some definite ghost action.

1:23:48

Cool. 1945. That's like, that's

1:23:50

like a, you know, like you don't get too many horror

1:23:52

films from that time period. So I'm very curious about that.

1:23:56

Ganymede's Cup recommends The Eternal Daughter from 2022.

1:23:58

Got the graphic ghost

1:24:00

story from Joanna Hogg, starring

1:24:02

Tilda Swinton in a double

1:24:04

roll. Okay. Ooh. From

1:24:07

IMDb, returning to a hotel now haunted

1:24:10

by its mysterious past, an artist and

1:24:12

her elderly mother confront long-buried secrets in

1:24:14

their former family home. Oh,

1:24:17

get it, Tilda Swinton. John

1:24:19

Sloan recommends a Christmas carol.

1:24:23

Three word title. Uh-huh. Ghosts.

1:24:26

Yeah. Three spirits, four spirits.

1:24:28

Absolutely. I gotta say, like last

1:24:30

Christmas, I watched the 80s British version,

1:24:32

I think it's like George C. Scott. It's

1:24:35

spooky. Okay. Yeah. Like

1:24:38

it leans into the spooky. Interesting. Quite a bit.

1:24:42

Interesting. Uh, John Sloan, and then John Sloan says,

1:24:44

okay, but also seriously, Carnival of

1:24:46

Souls. Yeah. 1960s. Yeah,

1:24:49

of course. Ghost List. Absolutely.

1:24:52

Yeah. Uh, Volotint Spider, Second Sadako

1:24:54

versus Kayako, and also a Christmas Carol. Uh,

1:24:57

Beehawks, Beehawk Blades. Plus one

1:24:59

for Talk to Me, plus one for Sturebeckos. We

1:25:01

already done Sturebeckos. Have a listen. Some

1:25:04

good Chicago acting going on in there. Oh,

1:25:07

yeah. And Ace Diamond recommends a Ghost Weights

1:25:09

from 2020. A handyman

1:25:11

strikes a friendship and later romance with

1:25:13

a ghost haunting a house. Learns

1:25:16

about the horrors of ghost capitalism. That's

1:25:19

a great selling point. I love that. Ghost

1:25:21

capitalism. I love that synopsis.

1:25:23

Is that similar to insect politics?

1:25:25

Yeah, ghost capitalism. One

1:25:28

Dark Knight from 1982. Three

1:25:30

teenagers dared to spend a night in a

1:25:32

mausoleum attacked by a ghost of a serial

1:25:34

killer. Oh, no. They

1:25:37

also recommend What Wise Beneath. Michelle Pfeiffer believes that her

1:25:39

neighbor has killed his wife and now her ghost is

1:25:41

haunting her home. Who hasn't

1:25:43

been there? Trick

1:25:45

or treat. Some vengeful ghosts in

1:25:47

this anthology. Ghosts

1:25:50

of Mars. Oh, yeah. Police Squad

1:25:52

investigates the disappearance of a human colony on

1:25:54

a thought to be empty Mars only discover

1:25:56

that the extinct Martians are not happy about

1:25:59

their new arrival. Is this carpenter?

1:26:02

I think so. I think so.

1:26:06

Yeah, very sci-fi ghost. Love

1:26:08

it. And the devil's backbone. Children

1:26:11

of the Spanish were orphanage realized they're being haunted by

1:26:13

a ghost of a missing boy. Holy

1:26:15

cow, there's so many good ones on here.

1:26:17

This is hard to narrow down. I know.

1:26:19

Like what just first got

1:26:22

like what stood out to you? I

1:26:26

mean, here's the sixth sense. Yeah,

1:26:29

it's a big one. Yeah, because like that

1:26:31

movie was a bit

1:26:34

of a cultural phenomenon. Like it

1:26:36

was a touchstone moment because before

1:26:39

horror got classy, it

1:26:42

was a classy horror. Yeah. You

1:26:44

know, for the same reason, I think the devil's backbone.

1:26:47

Yeah. Like it's a classic spooky ghost

1:26:49

story. And here's the thing. I love Guillermo de

1:26:51

Toro. I love him so much. But

1:26:53

I kind of think since he won the

1:26:55

Oscar, it's gotten a little bit like he's

1:26:57

almost a little bit too big for his

1:26:59

his britches these days. And this is going

1:27:01

back to like what

1:27:04

made him a legend,

1:27:06

you know? Yeah. Like

1:27:08

I will, you know, love Guillermo de Toro. But

1:27:11

I think like this is some of his best filmmaking. And

1:27:13

it's definitely gets

1:27:15

overlooked by Pan's Labyrinth because Pan's Labyrinth was

1:27:17

such a like, oh

1:27:19

my gosh, everybody kind of discovered

1:27:21

like definitely the devil's

1:27:23

backbone is like for horror movie lovers.

1:27:25

Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I

1:27:29

don't know if talk to me is a ghost

1:27:31

or a demon. It

1:27:33

kind of seems more demon-y. Yeah, it's

1:27:35

it's in that nebulous area of what

1:27:38

is. I

1:27:41

mean, I would consider it technically a ghost.

1:27:44

OK. That's happened or ghosts that are

1:27:46

happening in through this hand. They go

1:27:49

in. Because it's kind of a monkey's

1:27:51

paw, Ouija board kind of make a

1:27:53

wish. Doing the thing where

1:27:55

you know how like sometimes like werewolves

1:27:58

and vampires almost seem like. like the

1:28:00

same thing in horror movies. This

1:28:02

is one of those movies where like Ghost

1:28:04

and Demon are kind of the same thing

1:28:06

because it becomes a possessing sort of spirit.

1:28:08

Malevolent spirit, okay. That possesses you. Hell

1:28:12

House LLC is super scary, that's a good

1:28:14

one. Yeah, that's a really, really good one.

1:28:17

But honestly, Ganjim Haunted Asylum sounds

1:28:23

fun as fuck as well. Man,

1:28:27

yeah, Ganjim Haunted Asylum. Okay,

1:28:30

Ganjim Haunted Asylum looks

1:28:34

so good. That and Hell House LLC

1:28:36

both feel like Haunted

1:28:38

House. Yes, Haunted House, thrill

1:28:41

ride of a movie. Found footage, great jump

1:28:43

scares. Found footage is so good for ghost

1:28:45

movies too. Oh, for sure. Yeah,

1:28:47

yeah, yeah, yeah. Six cents

1:28:49

and devil's backbone if we want to

1:28:51

do more like classy horror. Like a

1:28:53

film. But then there's also

1:28:55

like the House of Usher and the Haunted Palace,

1:28:57

which are like the kind of the Vincent Price

1:29:01

corridor. Yeah. And

1:29:03

I know the House of Usher is like a classic

1:29:05

of horror films. I

1:29:07

mean, that's really like zigging

1:29:11

out of like, I mean, it is a classic movie,

1:29:13

but it's like zigging out of like modern

1:29:15

super scary horror. But

1:29:18

it is a classic. We

1:29:20

haven't done a ton of Vincent Price, so that's a

1:29:22

good one. That's true. I mean,

1:29:24

there's also, then it's like you've not seen the Evil Dead.

1:29:27

The Evil Dead, like that original one,

1:29:29

it's so inspired

1:29:32

and sure it has some flaws in it that

1:29:34

they later kind of course correct in Evil Dead

1:29:37

2, but you know, this is the

1:29:39

original. Yeah. Okay,

1:29:42

so here's a couple things.

1:29:44

Let's talk about, I think we're gonna end

1:29:46

up doing a die roll here, right? I

1:29:48

think so. I think we have like strong

1:29:51

contenders. It's just a

1:29:53

matter of what kind of movie we want to watch. And I

1:29:55

think we kind of cleared the board with

1:29:58

Burst City that we-

1:30:00

can go in any direction. Yes.

1:30:02

We did clear the board. After the after

1:30:04

the smoke of anarchy clears, we're

1:30:06

like, we can move

1:30:08

in any direction now. Okay, I'm

1:30:11

gonna tell you six and tell me. Okay,

1:30:13

if you think these are the ones we've been focusing

1:30:15

on the most. The sixth

1:30:18

sense. Yeah. House

1:30:20

of Usher. Yeah. Devil's

1:30:23

Backbone. Okay. Hell

1:30:26

House LLC. Yeah. Gonjum

1:30:29

Haunted Asylum. Yeah. And the

1:30:31

sixth one I put on here is the Evil

1:30:33

Dead. Or maybe

1:30:35

the Nighthouse is more

1:30:38

like ghosty. I

1:30:40

would put either Evil, the

1:30:42

Evil Dead or Carnival of Souls. I

1:30:46

think Carnival of Souls. I know. But here's the thing. We have 1960s on the

1:30:48

dice still. Yeah.

1:30:51

Who knows if we'll get there, but Carnival of

1:30:53

Souls is another one. It's like, it's kind of

1:30:55

like Night of the Living Dead

1:30:58

in that it low key inspired

1:31:00

a generation of horror filmmaking that we're

1:31:02

now seeing the rewards of. And it's

1:31:05

like, I remember being a teenager and thinking like, this

1:31:08

is so spooky. It's

1:31:10

spooky. It is spooky. Okay.

1:31:13

I think I like this balance here though, because

1:31:15

if we do Carnival of Souls instead of

1:31:17

the Evil Dead, what we end up having is two modern

1:31:22

classics in the Sixth Sense and Devil's

1:31:24

Backbone. Yes. Two mid-century

1:31:27

classics in House of Usher and

1:31:29

Carnival of Souls and two found

1:31:31

footage spookiest shit movies, Haunted Asylum

1:31:33

and Hell House LLC. I

1:31:35

love this. Yeah. Okay. I think that's a good

1:31:37

spread. I think it's my turn to

1:31:39

roll. So those are our six. Yeah, I think so.

1:31:42

One is Sixth Sense, Two House of

1:31:44

Usher, Three Devil's Backbone, Four Hell House

1:31:46

LLC, Five Gonjum Haunted Asylum. That's

1:31:48

five. And then six is Carnival of Souls. All right.

1:31:51

Let's see what we got here. I got

1:31:53

a one. We're watching the Sixth Sense

1:31:56

Cecil. Absolutely. That's so hard to say.

1:32:00

Uh, great. Wow. Uh, it's always daunting to

1:32:02

talk about a movie that everyone has seen.

1:32:05

I know. But here's the thing. I've not seen

1:32:07

it since it came out though. Oh, yeah. So

1:32:10

it's not like going to be fresh, but it's going to

1:32:12

be almost like new,

1:32:14

gently used. I think when

1:32:16

you talk about, um, a

1:32:18

filmmaker who has made a bunch of

1:32:20

stuff and returning to their first breakout

1:32:23

film, it's really important because

1:32:26

I think M. Night Shyamalan is one of those

1:32:28

people that I think we

1:32:30

all, the general consensus is, you

1:32:32

know, he's batting about 200. Uh, yeah. You

1:32:37

know, whatever, but I love every other he's,

1:32:40

it's like in every other film. Yeah. He's

1:32:42

in the same thing as like, you know, my tutorial and

1:32:44

Tim Burton, where it's like, awesome, less than

1:32:47

awesome, awesome, less than awesome. But his, uh,

1:32:49

let's go back to the awesome. His first

1:32:51

stat bat was a grand slam. So awesome.

1:32:53

Yeah. Um, and also

1:32:55

let's spend some time in Philadelphia. Why

1:32:57

don't we gorgeous? Well,

1:33:00

great. Get some, get some hoagies. All

1:33:05

right. Thank you all for listening. Thank you. Cecil

1:33:07

for talking with me. And if you have thoughts

1:33:09

on burst city or ideas for other movies that

1:33:11

would have been good, a three

1:33:14

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