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been 538 days since Aaron Rodgers became a Jet. And
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finally, he has his favorite receiver.
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But can Devontae Adams be the
1:33
missing piece in New York? They
1:36
certainly ponyed up like he will be.
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We'll tell you how and why this
1:40
deal got done now. We'll
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also tell you why Russell Wilson likely
1:44
gets his first Steelers start against
1:46
Rodgers, Adams and the Jets on
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Sunday night. We'll hear from Mike
1:51
Tomlin on that matter as well.
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2:03
the workhorse in Indianapolis joins us
2:06
live. Welcome inside with
2:08
the insiders presented by Progressive
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Insurance alongside Judy Batista and
2:12
Ian Rappaport who are live
2:14
at the NFL meeting in
2:16
Atlanta today. There was a
2:18
little bit of news there,
2:20
maybe the greatest quarterback of
2:22
all time is back. Just
2:24
not playing quarterback anymore. We will get to
2:26
that. But I would also tell you, I
2:29
have not left this seat in, let's
2:31
call it 12 hours from
2:34
good morning football straight through this show
2:36
because we have had a day and
2:39
it all started out this morning
2:41
when yes, after weeks
2:43
of negotiation over a year
2:45
of speculation, Devontae Adams finally
2:47
and officially became a New
2:50
York Jet, the Jets sending
2:52
the Raiders a conditional third
2:54
round pick in the 2025
2:57
draft. It can potentially become a
3:00
second round pick based on personal
3:02
and team performance. They also are
3:04
taking on the entire salary for
3:06
Devontae Adams, a small price to
3:08
pay if you're Woody Johnson. What
3:11
do you think? I think he adds
3:14
to the running game. He adds to
3:16
the he really makes everything. He opens
3:18
up everything, you know, particularly having that
3:21
relationship with the quarterback. That's very important.
3:24
You could see last night, you know,
3:26
you could watch the quarterback. It
3:29
takes a while for quarterback to get into
3:31
that and you could see Garrett is finally,
3:33
finally getting that and he played
3:36
a good game much better than
3:38
the week before and next week will be better. Got
3:40
home and Ted
3:42
called me and texted me and I saw
3:45
I finally called him back and said,
3:47
so about 1230 to 45 last night. I
3:53
heard the news. OK, so as soon as you hear the
3:55
news, what's that? What's that? What's that?
3:58
What's that? Well,
4:00
well, well. Here
4:03
he is. Hey,
4:05
good to see you, Ty. Good to see you, man.
4:07
Congrats. What's up, fellas? Hey, thank
4:09
you, man. I appreciate it. No problem. Appreciate that. How
4:12
was the flight over there? Did you fly over last
4:14
night and Aaron wasn't returning any of your text messages?
4:16
What's that all about? You think about saying, give
4:18
me the hell out of here any time of that?
4:21
Yeah, he was having second thoughts. Yeah,
4:24
he's been knowing that both
4:26
when it comes to pulling the trigger with me. But
4:29
hopefully we can put that behind us now. Yeah,
4:32
we're back, man. We're back. Everything
4:34
about the Jets in the Aaron Rodgers
4:36
era has felt like a reality show.
4:39
Part of it was literally a reality
4:41
show, Ian, when Hard Knocks was there
4:43
last year. This was like the character
4:45
that's kind of coming and going the
4:47
entire time. You're never quite sure if
4:50
they're going to become a central part
4:52
of the story for sure. You watch
4:54
Devontae Adams walk on the screen there
4:56
on the Pat McAfee show. He's a
4:58
31-year-old receiver who's coming off a hamstring
5:01
injury. These are not normally the types
5:03
of trades we see for significant compensation.
5:05
Yet here we are, and you just
5:07
have to think based on what Woody's
5:09
saying, what Aaron's saying, what Devontae is
5:12
saying. The expectations cannot possibly be
5:14
higher for this deal now that it's finally
5:16
done. The expectations have always
5:18
been high for the Jets ever since they
5:20
acquired Aaron Rodgers. He's a great fanfare a
5:22
couple of years ago. You acquire an all-pro
5:25
like Devontae Adams, who you're right. We have
5:27
been talking about for more than a year
5:29
from speculation to Aaron Rodgers
5:31
himself saying in a golf tournament casually,
5:34
yeah, I'd like to play with him
5:36
again. This has been all we have
5:38
discussed, and now it is actually happening. And yeah,
5:40
I would say the expectations have ramped up a
5:42
bit. Forget about the fact that they are 2
5:44
and 4. It is all
5:46
in as Woody Johnson, the owner, told
5:49
us a couple hours ago here in
5:51
Atlanta. Here, Judy, is how this deal
5:53
broke down. Obviously, we've known Devontae Adams
5:55
told the Raiders he preferred to be
5:57
traded. It seemed like a good deal.
6:00
like last week could be the time
6:02
then the Jets fired Robert solid. Everyone
6:04
kind of took a deep breath. Things
6:06
really kicked into gear. My understanding about
6:08
Friday, that's when the Raiders and Jets
6:10
kind of became clear. All right. This
6:12
compensation a third that could become a
6:14
two. This may actually work for both
6:16
sides. I know the Jets had
6:18
some conversations with the bond to Adams agents
6:21
over the course of the weekend. Just say,
6:23
all right, what's going to happen with the
6:25
contract? They ended up restructuring that finalized last
6:27
night. He flew on a red eye last
6:30
night arrived today, was in
6:32
the building, took his physical, passes
6:34
physical. And now unbelievably, Devontae Adams
6:36
is on the jets. Right.
6:39
And you remember only a few days ago,
6:41
we were wondering if they lost the game
6:43
last night. Would that sort of be the
6:45
end of the Devontae Adams pursuit because it's
6:47
the season sort of over. And the answer
6:49
is no, Woody Johnson does not believe that
6:51
the season is over. As a matter of
6:54
fact, he's kind of optimistic about the season.
6:56
I asked him, do you
6:58
still think the season is salvageable? And he
7:00
said salvageable. I think we're
7:02
going to kick. And he said, we could
7:04
fill in the word. So he actually feels
7:06
really good. He actually felt pretty good about
7:08
the game last night, despite the loss. He
7:10
wasn't happy about the penalties for sure.
7:13
Or the kicker, which he said repeatedly.
7:16
But he did say he liked the way
7:18
the offense was moving the ball. Obviously they
7:20
need to be more productive. And he said,
7:22
those things are going to get better in
7:24
the next few weeks. He thinks they're just
7:26
going to get better and better and better.
7:28
He's obviously really excited about the Devontae Adams
7:30
acquisition. But there is not a feeling that
7:32
the season is on the brink, at least
7:34
if you're listening to Woody Johnson, he's full
7:36
steam ahead with this season and the New
7:38
York Jets. That was
7:40
not the only wide receiver trade
7:42
we got today. Just a few
7:44
hours after the Devontae Adams trade
7:46
was first reported by that guy,
7:48
Rappaport, the Buffalo Bills acquired Amari
7:50
Cooper. It's a little bit of
7:52
a complicated deal in terms of
7:55
compensation, but basically the bill is
7:57
sending a third round pick to
7:59
Cleveland. swap late round picks
8:01
one in twenty five one in twenty
8:03
twenty six. This is a
8:05
fascinating deal for a number of different
8:08
reasons as you get your first look
8:10
right there. Adam Murray Cooper in a
8:12
bills uniform. A guy who's now been
8:14
traded. Let's remember three times from the
8:16
then Oakland Raiders to the Cowboys, the
8:19
Cowboys to the Browns. Now the Browns
8:21
to the bills. The bills were also
8:23
in in on Devontae Adams as were
8:25
teams like the Steelers and
8:28
the Saints. One of the hold ups with
8:30
Buffalo besides the fact that they don't employ
8:32
one of his best friends who's also the
8:34
quarterback of the team was the bills couldn't
8:36
afford to take on all that money. So
8:38
where the Jets took on eleven point six
8:40
million dollars for Devontae Adams the
8:43
Browns had paid almost all the money
8:45
they owe to Murray Cooper and a
8:47
signing bonus for cap purposes. The bills
8:49
now get him for eight hundred six
8:52
thousand dollars eight hundred six thousand six
8:54
hundred sixty seven dollars here. A potential
8:56
bargain if he's able to integrate into
8:58
what should be a pretty high powered
9:00
bills office. This trade got done
9:03
today. You're right. As soon as it became
9:05
clear that the bills were not getting Devontae
9:07
Adams the pivot happened pretty quickly. In fact
9:09
my understanding is the conversations really started sounded
9:11
like late last night kicked into gear this
9:13
morning and then it was done. It's a
9:16
complicated deal as far as compensation goes. A
9:18
third round pick is the biggest piece of
9:20
this and what is essentially a pick swap.
9:22
So that goes from the bills to the
9:24
Browns. But the reality is Tom this didn't
9:26
start today. This started when the Cleveland Browns
9:29
were trying to trade for Brandon Iuke and
9:31
pay him 30 million dollars per year.
9:33
Murray Cooper got wind of this as did
9:35
we all took it some sort of way
9:37
obviously went on the field and played for
9:39
the Browns and everything was fine when he
9:41
was in the building but it's not something
9:43
you really forget as a player. And look
9:45
his contract is what it is. It's
9:48
pretty clear he was probably not going to
9:50
sign back next year. They restructured his contract
9:52
one to make it easier for them capitalized
9:54
to if they had to trade him he
9:57
was extremely tradable. This was a pretty good
9:59
commodity. The bill. the Browns clearly took a
10:01
look at zone and said, he's not going to
10:03
be part of our team next year. Let's get
10:05
what we can now. And I think if you're
10:07
the bills, you get a really solid veteran receiver
10:09
for Josh Allen. One more
10:12
trade that also came down this one
10:14
in the past hour, the Minnesota Vikings.
10:16
And no, this is not a repeat
10:18
from last year. They traded for cam
10:20
makers again. Last year they acquired him
10:22
from the Rams. This time around, they
10:24
acquire him from the Houston Texans. It
10:27
is a late round pick swap in
10:29
2026 for anybody who
10:31
has Aaron Jones and fantasy football. It
10:33
was emphasized to me. This is not
10:35
about any type of long-term health concerns
10:37
with Aaron Jones. In fact, there's a
10:39
possibility he plays this week against the
10:41
Lions. This is just another running
10:43
back who knows that system. Well,
10:46
going back to his days with
10:48
the LA Rams when Kevin O'Connell
10:50
was there. We also had significant
10:52
news today out of Pittsburgh, where
10:54
coach Mike Tomlin confirmed the Russell
10:56
Wilson will be in Tomlin's words
10:58
in consideration this week to
11:01
start. Now, here's what I
11:03
am told. They're going to give Russell
11:05
Wilson first team reps this week. And
11:07
at this point, he is considered to
11:09
be in line to be the starting
11:11
quarterback this week and make his debut
11:14
against the Jets, even though they are
11:16
four and two with Justin Fields. Here's
11:18
how Mike Tomlin summed up the situation
11:21
today. Over
11:23
the course of the week, I got comfortable with
11:25
his ability to display his health. Now
11:28
it's about, you know, knocking the rust off. He did
11:30
some of that last week. He
11:32
is in consideration this week. We'll
11:34
see where that leads us, man. Both
11:37
guys at the quarterback position are scheduled to
11:39
work tomorrow and we'll just walk it day by day,
11:41
all geared toward putting
11:43
ourselves in best position
11:46
to win the football game. Let's talk about the
11:48
Jets a little bit. Obviously, things are changing by
11:50
the minute. I was getting
11:53
ready for Devontae last week. I'm getting
11:55
ready for Devontae this week. Definitely
11:57
a unique set of circumstances right there for Mike.
12:00
Tomlin and the Steelers as they get
12:02
ready for this game. Judy Tomlin also
12:04
said the Russell Wilson proved last week
12:06
he is healthy. And that was the
12:08
biggest piece in all of this, even
12:10
though realistically, the calf was probably fully
12:12
healed a few weeks ago. The only
12:14
announcement Mike Tomlin has ever made about
12:16
quarterback is Russell Wilson is our starter.
12:18
That was back in August before he
12:20
aggravated the calf. Now at this point,
12:23
even though Justin Fields is taking care
12:25
of the football, it certainly sounds like
12:27
it's headed in the direction of us
12:29
finally seeing Russell Wilson on the field
12:31
in the Steelers uniform. Well,
12:33
let's be honest, we've been talking about this since training
12:35
camp and those of us who
12:37
cycled through Latrobe, Pennsylvania all got the feeling
12:40
that Mike Tomlin wanted to see Russell Wilson
12:42
as the starting quarterback at some point. Like
12:44
he was ready to start the season with
12:46
Russell Wilson until the injury happened and it
12:49
was just a question of when
12:51
would that moment be? When would there be an
12:53
opening? Now you say, well, they're foreign too. How
12:55
could this possibly be the moment that she would
12:57
change quarterbacks? But don't forget, they
13:00
are not scoring that many points. They
13:02
are definitely not passing for that many
13:04
yards. And last week, they won the
13:07
game and he did score, he being
13:09
Justin Fields did score with his legs.
13:12
And he's not making mistakes, but
13:15
he's also not generating big plays.
13:18
So I think the question is,
13:20
is this the opening? Is this the right
13:22
moment? He was more erratic. He
13:24
was less accurate last week. Certainly
13:27
this is a fine line that Mike Tomlin is
13:29
walking and I am sure that there are people
13:31
even in the building who are like, are
13:34
you sure about this because you're foreign too? It's
13:37
a very unusual move to make. But again, I
13:40
have always gotten the sense that Mike Tomlin wants
13:42
to see Russell Wilson as the starting quarterback at
13:44
some point. And this is the moment it appears
13:46
that it's going to happen. One great thing about
13:48
having an excellent defense is you do have some
13:51
margin for error, right? Like you have the opportunity
13:53
to say, we're going to go with a different
13:55
quarterback and we think it's going to be better.
13:58
If it isn't, that's okay. And I would.
14:00
be surprised at all if both quarterbacks end
14:02
up playing in this game and look at
14:04
some point might we don't have to name
14:06
a starter but you figure at some point
14:08
Mike Tomlin will say here's our starting quarterback
14:11
but he doesn't necessarily need to
14:13
and I'm not sure how much it would
14:15
really matter I mean if you have neither
14:18
of these guys has really elevated himself from
14:20
the other if it's weak whatever it is
14:22
seven is a week seven yeah it's week
14:24
seven and we still don't have a confirmed
14:26
starting quarterback then it's okay to say maybe
14:29
they both play now you're right I would
14:31
I would consider uh playing
14:33
Russell Wilson to be at least
14:35
a curiosity from Mike Tomlin and
14:37
yes Justin Fields has been good
14:39
but as he mentioned is it
14:41
championship level yet maybe not and
14:43
you know look we'll see if
14:46
Russell Wilson gets it there but
14:48
we will see as Mike Tomlin
14:50
said tons of news around the
14:52
NFL including where you guys are
14:54
in Buckhead Atlanta right now where
14:56
finally Tom Brady is officially a
14:58
member of NFL ownership he was
15:00
approved today by NFL owners unanimous
15:02
vote as a limited partner the
15:04
Raiders now owns five percent of
15:06
the team ten percent if you
15:08
include the portion owned by his
15:10
partner that also means based upon
15:13
recently revised NFL rules his playing
15:15
career is officially over Brady within
15:17
the past couple of minutes also
15:19
released a statement thanking among other
15:21
people Mark Davis commissioner Goodell his
15:23
partners Jim Gray got a mention
15:25
in here in a statement that
15:27
was signed by someone who apparently
15:29
their initials are BP is that
15:31
really his signature I feel
15:33
like after all the stuff he signed we could we
15:35
could do slightly better than that anyway
15:38
Mark Davis said he might be able to
15:40
help him pick the next quarterback can't wait
15:42
to see him on the pro day circuit
15:44
or at the combine I'm sure we'll get
15:46
that maybe you'll find a guy like this
15:48
Jamar Chase let's talk Bengals and a whole
15:51
lot more Jeffrey Chadea joining us to talk
15:53
about his bandwagon's next on the insiders back
15:56
in week one the Philadelphia Eagles kicked off
15:58
their season in historic fashion becoming the first
16:00
team to win an NFL game in South
16:02
America. Today, we go behind the scenes to
16:04
find out what it took for the Eagles
16:07
to plan and execute the nearly 5,000 mile
16:09
journey to
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Sao Paulo, Brazil in this episode of
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Gaining Greatness presented by Sleep Number. Over
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30,000 pounds of equipment, 185
16:18
players, coaches and team personnel, almost 10,000 miles of travel.
16:27
What does it take to get an NFL team to
16:29
South America for a regular season game? A
16:31
lot of coordination between departments, between
16:34
the club and the NFL. Well,
16:37
that and a lot more. In
16:40
2024, the Philadelphia Eagles opened their season
16:42
with a matchup against the Green Bay
16:45
Packers in Sao Paulo, Brazil. And it
16:47
is cut to a touchdown. Perfect pass.
16:50
The undertaking was as enormous
16:52
as it was detailed, spanning
16:54
months of planning, meticulous preparation
16:56
and perfect execution. I
16:58
know they don't see what happens on the
17:00
back end, but they get to see the
17:03
energy, the intensity, the passion at which our
17:05
players play. Four-three, touchdown, Eagles! That's
17:07
just fun to watch. We're
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bringing the game that we love to a whole
17:11
new country. Side to Brazil. Hey, man.
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We're going to point the show, y'all. Fly
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high like an eagle, baby. This is
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how the Philadelphia Eagles orchestrated one
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of the most ambitious operations in
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NFL history to take the field
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for the first ever game in
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South America. Time
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now for Tuesday Takeaways presented
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by Chipotle. Tom Pelocero
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back here on The Insiders joined now
17:39
by my buddy Jeffrey Chadea. As
17:41
I always say in this segment, Jeff,
17:43
all I can think about is delicious,
17:46
delicious burritos right now. But you're thinking
17:48
about bandwagons. Who are you on? Let's
17:50
start in the NFC right now. Well,
17:52
I'll start with the Eagles. The team,
17:54
everybody loves to cycle analyze. I
17:56
get Nick Sirianni. It can be unpredictable.
18:00
I love the fact that AJ Brown is
18:02
back. Devontae Smith is back. You saw the
18:04
impact that had on the way Jaylen Hurts
18:06
played, didn't turn the ball over for the
18:08
first time in what seems like forever. I
18:10
think this team is, people talk about Washington,
18:12
but this team has more talent than the
18:14
commanders and they're a better team than Dallas.
18:17
You have a defensive still suspect, but I
18:19
think they will get that figured out at
18:21
some point with Vic Fangio. Second
18:23
team in the NFC I like a lot
18:25
is the Green Bay Packers. You go to
18:27
Jordan Love, yeah, he wasn't playing well when
18:29
he was trying to get back from that
18:31
knee injury, but he found his stride last
18:34
week. You saw the way he played against
18:36
the Cardinals, put up big numbers, love the
18:38
weapons around him, but I also love the
18:40
way this defense has been playing. They wanted
18:42
to be more opportunistic. They lead the NFL
18:44
in takeaways right now. Xavier McKinney looks like
18:46
an all-pro safety. And finally, a team in
18:48
that same division, Chicago Bears. I know that
18:51
Kayla Williams got off to a short, to
18:53
a tough start, but he's been playing really
18:55
well seeing teams like the Panthers and the
18:57
Jaguars, yes. But the Bears have figured out,
18:59
let's run the football better. Let's play with
19:01
that defense. It hasn't allowed more than 20
19:03
points only one time this
19:06
season. Look, NFC North is tough. It's
19:08
a bloodbath with Detroit and Minnesota, but
19:10
both these teams should be in the
19:12
playoff hunt come January. Jeffrey,
19:15
give me some more toppings. I mean, some more teams
19:17
that you are on the bandwagon. Let's this time go
19:19
over to the AFC side. Well,
19:21
I'll start with the Cincinnati Bengals. And last
19:24
season, I made a big prediction late about
19:26
the Buffalo Bills making the playoffs. I'll make
19:28
the same prediction about the Cincinnati Bengals. They're
19:30
two and four, but I could see them
19:32
being five and five by week 10 with
19:34
a week schedule. They've got the Browns, they've
19:36
got the Eagles, they've got the Raiders coming
19:38
up so they can get some wins going.
19:40
But offense is great. And the defense looked
19:42
a lot better with Sheldon Reagan's back on
19:44
that defensive line. B.J. Hill is healthy. I
19:46
think Lou Anna-Ruma was gonna be able to
19:49
scheme some things up. And then Chargers. Not
19:51
a lot of expectations about the Chargers, but they're
19:54
three and two right now. And their defense under
19:56
Jesse Mentor has been lights out. Jim Harbaugh has
19:58
got this team. believing in the identity of running
20:00
the football. Justin Herbert is throwing the football more,
20:02
did so against the Denver Broncos, you saw it
20:05
here. And so I like Jim Harbaugh's ability to
20:07
make things happen. And again, you look at their
20:09
schedule down the stretch here, they got the Cardinals,
20:11
the Saints, the Browns, the Titans coming up in
20:14
the next month. They could really get on a
20:16
nice run here and make a playoff push themselves.
20:19
Hot takes as always from Jeffrey
20:21
Chedia, almost as hot as the
20:23
salsa verde that you can get
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on your burrito right now at
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20:30
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20:32
this, a guy who's seen hotter
20:34
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21:23
the Roman numerals are. 62,
21:25
Judy, that's when the Super Bowl is heading
21:28
back right here to Atlanta, 2028. It
21:32
was a good one last time. I had a blast. Ate
21:34
some great restaurants, Fox Brothers Barbecue, where I'm going
21:36
tonight. Atlanta, back in the
21:39
Super Bowl rotation, second time in a
21:41
decade. So of course, we
21:43
are here at the Fall League meeting. Always
21:45
a fun one, always eventful. We've been talking
21:47
about the different news that came out of
21:49
this, Tom Brady being part owner of the
21:51
Raiders for one. Obviously, there was
21:54
a lot more, several briefings from league officials.
21:56
For you, what was your
21:58
biggest takeaway? not Tom Brady related
22:01
from these meetings. Well, other than
22:03
all the trades that happened and the owners
22:05
talking about them, I think on league news,
22:07
they're pretty happy with where the dynamic kickoff
22:09
is right now, which you may be surprised
22:11
because it hasn't generated a ton of kickoff
22:13
returns, about 32% of kickoffs are being returned.
22:16
But that's way up from where they were
22:18
at this point last year, they were only
22:20
at 17% returns last year. So
22:23
it's a huge boost. They think it's something
22:25
to build on. There's no question they're gonna
22:27
tweak it. Roger Goodell said as much in
22:29
his briefing. They're definitely gonna look at it
22:31
after the year, but they think this is
22:33
a good starting point. The tweak that they
22:35
would look at is having a touch back
22:37
go then to the 35 yard line, which
22:40
obviously- To de-incentivize. Right,
22:44
so that of course would be a
22:46
huge advantage for the team that takes
22:48
possession to start that. And they think
22:50
that that would incentivize having more returns.
22:53
They are balancing against, would
22:55
that create more injuries? The really good news
22:57
is there's been only one concussion suffered on
22:59
kickoffs through week six. So that is great
23:02
news. Serious lack of injuries on the kickoff
23:04
place specifically. That was certainly noteworthy as were
23:06
the very small but growing number of players
23:08
wearing the Guardian caps. I thought that we
23:11
saw a tail a wrap for one, the
23:13
Buffalo Bills wear one last night. So a
23:15
lot of good health and safety news. There
23:19
was some not great things today around
23:22
the Dallas Cowboys. I think it's fair to say,
23:24
not here. Now
23:26
Jerry Jones did walk in here one minute before the
23:29
meeting started and talk about how, hey guys, I can't
23:31
really talk, I gotta go. He knew there
23:33
was a lot to talk about. He
23:35
talked about a lot of it on 105.3, the fan. Some
23:38
of it was a little chippy. I just,
23:40
it was, anyway, take a listen. We'll come
23:42
right back. There
23:45
was a lot of criticism that you guys
23:47
didn't add, didn't spend and don't add and
23:49
don't spend and are not aggressive enough with
23:51
some of the problems that are still haunting
23:54
the Cowboys today that we see play out
23:56
on the field. That's the point of talking
23:58
about the off season. Oh,
24:00
I remember those criticisms very
24:02
well. Okay, so
24:04
what? Are
24:07
they playing out to be accurate? What's
24:09
your point? What's your point? This
24:11
is not your job. Your
24:14
job isn't to let me go over all
24:16
the reasons that I did something and I'm
24:18
sorry that I did it. That's not your
24:20
job. Well,
24:22
my job is to ask why- You don't get a job
24:25
or I'll get another, I'll get somebody else to ask these
24:27
questions, man. Oh, Jerry,
24:29
we're just, we're trying to figure out
24:32
why the team is- No, no, I'm not kidding you. I'm
24:34
not kidding you. You're not
24:36
gonna figure out what the
24:38
team is doing right or wrong. If
24:41
you are or any five or
24:43
10 like you, you need
24:45
to come to this meeting I'm going to
24:47
today. There are 32 teams here. You're geniuses.
24:50
Well, that was a 10 out of 10 on the AUK meter. Hoo
24:54
boy. Yeah, I mean, that's like
24:56
the third time I've listened to that and
24:58
I still get just really strange and awkward.
25:00
Now Jerry Jones meets with the porters after
25:02
almost every game does weekly radio spots, a
25:04
105, three, the fan. It can
25:06
get like that. I can't remember being
25:09
just like that. What did you
25:11
make of all of them? Well,
25:13
Jerry, so I was at the game
25:15
when he was clearly unhappy. Jerry is
25:17
usually to his credit in
25:19
good humor, in good times and bad. He
25:21
is one of those people who thinks just
25:24
as long as you're talking about us, we know you're
25:26
going to have to talk about us when things are
25:28
bad. If you're talking about it when things are good.
25:30
This loss clearly stung. He made
25:33
it clear on Sunday, he was very unhappy about
25:35
it, that he was embarrassed by it. And clearly
25:37
he is still quite upset about
25:39
it just to tell you why he didn't talk
25:41
to reporters on his way in as he walked
25:43
in and the reporters among us, you
25:46
and I were there, converged on him. He
25:48
was grabbed by a league PR person by
25:50
the hand and pulled away from us. So
25:52
that's why Jerry didn't talk. And then when
25:54
he was on the way out and we
25:56
converged, Jerry, I want to stop for a
25:58
second. He turned and he looked at us,
26:00
he goes, I'm going to pass guys. And
26:03
then he stopped and he turned again
26:05
and he said, unless you want me
26:07
to chew your bleep out joking. And
26:09
then he said, thumbs up. So Jerry's
26:13
going through it a little bit right now.
26:15
This was a tough loss, joking, but not
26:17
entirely joking. Look, it's been a tough week
26:19
and Jerry is well aware of the shortcomings
26:22
of his team. And certainly he is well
26:24
aware of the role he plays in
26:26
contributing to the shortcomings. It's been a tough week for
26:28
Jerry. I don't think it's fair to say going into
26:30
this by, which I think a lot of people expected
26:33
changes and seem like there's going to be a lot
26:35
of changes. There will be a ton of eyeballs on
26:37
the Cowboys over the next three or so weeks leading
26:40
up to the trade deadline, seeing what they do.
26:42
They do get some of the defensive stars, including
26:44
Micah Parsons back, but whoo. Yeah.
26:46
A lot of people looking at the Cowboys after that
26:48
one, Tom, take it away. Did
26:50
Ian say 10 out of 10 on the
26:52
Auc meter? That was
26:54
an 11 time now for game
26:57
flow presented by progressive. Insurance. A
26:59
lot's changed over the past week or so for
27:01
the New York Jets. They got a new head
27:04
coach. They got a new wide receiver. They got
27:06
another loss right there sealed
27:08
by Taran Johnson picking off Aaron
27:10
Rodgers on a route that Rogers
27:12
made abundantly clear. Mike Williams did
27:14
not quite run correctly. You know
27:17
who knows how to run routes
27:19
exactly like Rogers wants his old
27:21
buddy, Devontae Adams, who is officially
27:23
now a New York jet. The
27:25
Jets sending a third round conditional
27:27
pick in 2025 that can become
27:30
a second rounder to the Las
27:32
Vegas Raiders. Also taking on the
27:34
entirety of Adams remaining salary to
27:36
make sure that they were able
27:38
to make this reunion happen. As
27:40
we welcome you back to the
27:43
insiders. Join now by Brian Baldinger
27:45
and Mark Ross Baldy. It has been
27:47
a day around the NFL. Lots going
27:50
on. Let's start out with this
27:52
trade. You've had like, oh, over a year to
27:54
think about how this might work out. Devontae Adams,
27:56
it's really happened. He's a jet. Well,
28:00
he's already in the building in Florham Park.
28:02
So it was already orchestrated. Maybe
28:04
as soon as they lost last night, he was on a plane to
28:06
get here. Look, he
28:09
wants to be here. Aaron wants him here. We've known
28:11
that for a long time. But I
28:13
don't know that just because Devontae here, they haven't
28:15
played in three years together. So
28:17
maybe they still have the same
28:19
connection. Maybe they still have this
28:21
ability, like be able to make
28:23
these kind of throws like Minshew
28:25
did to Devontae against the Ravens this
28:27
year. I don't know that
28:29
it's going to fix the penalty
28:31
situation, the breakdowns that have existed
28:34
in the passing game. Some
28:36
of the lapses and just
28:40
awareness of this football team in
28:42
all phases, whether it's the kicking game or whatever. I don't
28:44
know if it's gonna fix all that. I know this though,
28:47
Mark, when I look at the last three
28:49
games, whether it's Denver, Minnesota over London, or
28:52
last time against Buffalo, they could
28:54
have won all three games on the final drive.
28:56
They couldn't make the play. They make the play
28:58
to Mike Williams. Didn't make the play to Garrett
29:00
Wilson a week ago in London. Miss
29:03
Routs against Denver in the rain. I
29:05
mean, maybe Devontae is that guy at the end
29:07
of these games that could win it for him.
29:10
I think that's what they're all hoping. I
29:12
think there's still a mishmash
29:14
of problems within this franchise, within the team,
29:16
that still have to get corrected. And Rogers
29:19
talked a little bit about it, that we
29:21
have to detail our business, but this is
29:23
week six, Mark. I don't know when the
29:25
details are supposed to be polished at this
29:28
point. 100% Baldy. I
29:30
think the Jets kind of are what they are
29:32
right now, and hope is not a true strategy.
29:35
Running front offices, hope is not a
29:37
strategy. But you talked about the positives
29:39
there with the GM Aaron Rogers getting
29:41
his guy now. And if this doesn't
29:43
work out, then there really is no
29:45
more excuses there for the Jets and
29:47
what they're doing. But you talked about
29:49
some of the problems, and Baldy,
29:52
even the O-line, you didn't mention the O-line
29:54
and how porous they were last night, and
29:56
adding to the penalties that crushed
29:58
some touchdowns and crushed some dry. So
30:00
I think schematically also the
30:02
positives of that is that the ball has
30:04
to come out so quick for Aaron Rodgers
30:06
now you see you've seen them and we
30:09
six games now it really has to come
30:11
out if not the plays don't
30:13
get made so Devontae Adams gives him that
30:15
quick outlet to go with Garrett Wilson which
30:17
are really trying to do is both of
30:19
those guys win one on ones and Aaron
30:21
gets into the ball gets the ball to
30:23
them extremely quick. Now that limits your offense
30:25
if they run the ball the way they
30:27
did last night with Breece Hall finally looking
30:30
like the Breece Hall that we've seen then
30:32
that opens it up a little more but
30:34
I still think as you said there's a
30:36
lot of fundamental problems here with this Jets
30:39
team with the penalties with the O-line with
30:41
the age and Devontae Adams
30:43
hasn't played in three weeks. Now that
30:45
hamstring miraculously recovered there going up getting
30:47
on that flight going to New York
30:49
so will there be some rust too but
30:51
you know I don't think this solves a problem still see a little
30:53
bit of up and down from the Jets the rest of the way.
30:57
There were several other teams that were
30:59
involved in having interest in Devontae Adams
31:01
including the Saints the Steelers and the
31:03
Bills who just hours after the Devontae
31:05
Adams trade became final and official made
31:08
their own move trading for a Mari
31:10
Cooper it's basically a third round pick
31:12
that goes to Cleveland. There's also a
31:14
pick flop involved in the deal a
31:16
big difference here Baldy was the Bills
31:18
couldn't take on eleven point six million
31:21
dollars for Devontae Adams because the Browns
31:23
had restructured Cooper earlier this year they
31:25
get him for about eight hundred grand for
31:27
the rest of the season. How do
31:29
you see this fitting in for Mari
31:31
Cooper in Buffalo. Well
31:34
I think first of all you're going to get a very
31:36
motivated Mari Cooper I mean you go from a one in
31:38
five Brown scene that's going nowhere to
31:41
a first place for two bills team that
31:43
won the division four years ago everybody wants
31:45
to go to a winner. I can't imagine
31:47
a receiver in this league that wouldn't want
31:49
to play with Josh Allen. Look
31:52
they're a run first team right now under
31:54
Joe Brady the offensive coordinator but
31:56
there's a place for a Mari in this
31:59
offense for sure. They're 25th
32:01
in passing right now. That's probably not good
32:03
enough to win playoff games. You
32:06
know, you heard last night, Sean McDermott
32:08
talk about when Josh
32:10
Allen shakes loose, we gotta be
32:12
able to, you know, run our
32:14
different plays after the X's and O's
32:17
take over, you know, the scramble drills.
32:20
I can imagine Amari Cooper being in love
32:22
when Josh Allen shakes loose and to get
32:24
into his vision to catch a lot of
32:26
passes for this offense. He's a great route
32:28
runner. You gotta give him and be patient
32:31
with him to win those routes, but he's
32:33
still an elite player on the outside, something
32:35
I think the Bills could really use, Mark.
32:38
I absolutely love this for the Bills with
32:40
Amari Cooper. And the difference here is you're
32:42
not expecting Amari Cooper to come in here
32:44
and save this offense. You've seen that they
32:46
can, like last night, run the ball. They
32:48
still have Josh Allen, a top three quarterback
32:50
in the league who can take over games.
32:53
What it does bringing in Amari Cooper, a
32:55
true number one receiver is it makes
32:57
all of those other players better,
32:59
all those other players that got
33:01
elevated above what their competency was.
33:04
You guys heard about the Peter
33:06
principle. Look into that. The Bills
33:08
receivers got raised over the Peter
33:10
principle above what they really were
33:12
competent to do, whereas the one
33:15
should have been the two, the two should
33:17
have been a three. Now with Amari Cooper,
33:19
everybody can settle into their role. And
33:22
it just gives Josh Allen that outlet of when
33:24
I need a big play, he was going
33:26
to Mack Hollands in big situations last night. No, now
33:28
I've got Amari Cooper, one of the best receivers in
33:30
the league to go to, to
33:32
go with what I can do and take
33:35
over games, Josh Allen, how we've seen the
33:37
run game go. I just love
33:39
this, this fit with the Bills with
33:41
Amari Cooper. Mark Baldy, thank
33:43
you very much. Look forward to speaking with the
33:46
two of you again soon. Look forward to speaking
33:48
to our next guest as well, Colts
33:50
running back, Jonathan Taylor. Will he be
33:53
out there this week after battling that
33:55
high ankle sprain? And how good can
33:57
this Colts team be? Some good stuff.
36:00
tasting more of the honey barbecue,
36:02
of course tossed by yours truly
36:04
myself. Um, but I
36:07
would say that the honey barbecue definitely would
36:09
have been my favorite from today, but also
36:11
seeing a lot of the smiling fans, a
36:14
lot of people in the community from young to old,
36:17
I would say that this is
36:19
something that every player should try and
36:21
do on their off time. They're whenever
36:23
they're not rehabbing, whenever they're not on
36:25
the field training, whenever they're not lifting,
36:27
go back to your community and just, and
36:30
just go back to the fans that make
36:32
your stadium very, very special because that's,
36:34
that's what it is. They make your stadium special.
36:36
So it's always good to connect with them. Here's
36:39
what I appreciate you, T a lot of guys
36:41
come through here and they're pitching different products and
36:43
different things. You knew the menu. Okay. You had
36:45
the breakdown on the exact sauces that you were
36:47
going to get on those chicken strips. So good
36:49
on you for knowing the lines. All right. Let's
36:51
talk about the other thing that people are also
36:54
curious about if they didn't already run out to
36:56
go get a blizzard right now. How's
36:58
the ankle? How are you feeling? And are we
37:00
going to see you on Sunday against the dolphins?
37:03
I'm definitely feeling better this week. Um, ankles are
37:05
nothing new to me. I've been dealing with them
37:07
for, for quite a bit. I'm doing everything in
37:09
my power to be back out there again this
37:11
week. Um, you know, the high
37:13
ankles are always tricky. Um, especially when, uh,
37:16
you know, you're playing a high contact sport like
37:18
this. Um, but I'm sure I'm up for the
37:20
challenge. Me and the training staff with Andy Annapolis,
37:22
we're going to do everything that we can do
37:25
to be back out there this week and in
37:27
the coming weeks going forward. Cause it's
37:29
just, you want to be out there with
37:31
your team, helping them make plays. But I
37:33
have the utmost confidence in our team. You
37:35
guys saw young guys stepped up. We were
37:37
able to get a hard road division when,
37:39
um, and we got a chance to
37:41
come back home this week. So we'll feed off the crowd
37:43
at Lucas oil. I'm sure there'll be into it, but it
37:46
won't be easy. And Shane Steiken
37:48
already said that Barney setback, Anthony Richardson is
37:50
going to be out there again this week.
37:52
We just saw him throwing no look chicken
37:54
finger tosses to you here when it comes
37:56
to the football. Number one, what do you
37:58
see from him? him how is he feeling
38:00
but also just what do you see in
38:02
terms of the growth and why people watching
38:04
the show should believe in Anthony Richardson as
38:07
the Colts franchise QB. Yeah
38:09
definitely especially today at our event
38:12
Anthony did most of the toss in and for sure
38:14
I did a lot of the sauce and I think
38:16
that was only right but I've definitely
38:19
seen him grow from the previous year I
38:21
mean he was hit with adversity right away
38:24
no one wants to see this happen no one wants this
38:26
to happen but going down your rookie year but
38:29
as a quarterback I think it's a
38:31
tough thing that finding your off field
38:33
routine is almost harder than being able
38:35
to get better on the field because
38:37
everybody's a great talent in the NFL
38:39
of course you'll be able to find
38:42
your way on the field that's how
38:44
we found our way into the NFL
38:46
but it's that off that off
38:48
the field program that routine what's going to set
38:50
you to part from other players in its league
38:52
how are you going to get an edge and
38:54
I've seen him do that day in and day
38:57
out on and off the field
38:59
so being able to continue to see him grow
39:01
you guys have seen it him on the field
39:03
he's going to make electrifying plays he's going to
39:05
be a playmaker and now adding that on top
39:07
of that off of the field he's going to
39:10
be very very special to watch in the years
39:12
come and years to come so
39:14
last thing real quick for let you go JT
39:16
I'm setting my fancy lineup now you're saying I
39:19
am safe putting you in the lineup I should
39:21
do it right now well
39:23
I don't want you to put me in and then now
39:26
I'm out but as long as you have a good swap
39:28
then you're perfect well
39:31
I know you're going to be out there
39:33
all right you're confident though it's headed the
39:35
right direction that's what matters and we know
39:37
Dairy Queen also headed the right direction because
39:39
we got you guys over there saucing and
39:41
tossing Jonathan Taylor thanks for being here man
39:43
please come back thank you
39:45
so much Tom I appreciate you always a pleasure
39:48
big one for the Colts this week
39:51
against the Miami Dolphins big one on
39:53
Thursday night football for a Saints team
39:55
that are we going to recognize anybody
39:57
they're putting out there against Bowdoin the
40:00
Broncos are guys Sam Schwartzstein will be
40:03
here for an analytical look at this
40:05
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40:21
Pelissero, no, joined by Sam Schwartzstein, Prime Video
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and Thursday Night Football's analytics expert who is
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going to use next gen stats to help
40:28
us break down this matchup. Sam, thank you
40:30
so much for being here. A pair of
40:33
rookies facing off, but Bo Nix, kind of
40:35
the veteran in this game, not just because
40:37
he's like 35 years old here. What
40:40
are you encouraged by from Nix so far? Yeah,
40:43
I mean, if you squint hard enough, you don't see
40:45
10 back there in Denver, you see 15. He's
40:48
doing his best Tim T-Bo Nix back
40:50
there. He hasn't done great in the air,
40:52
but he keeps this team in the game
40:55
by utilizing his legs. He'll escape the pocket.
40:58
What I'm really excited about is the ability
41:00
to get first downs. I'm not just so concerned
41:02
with how many yards he's able to get
41:04
or any high analytics using
41:06
scrambling, but his ability to keep
41:08
the team moving, breaking tackles, extending
41:11
drives by getting that extra first down.
41:14
We had a 40 yard scramble at the
41:16
end of the game against the Chargers that
41:18
was able to help get them into opponent
41:20
territory to have a chance to come back.
41:22
And this team will always leave on their
41:24
defense and for rookie quarterback, it's always tough,
41:26
but his ability to utilize his legs is
41:28
giving him that Ferris Bueller esque randomness
41:31
that Sean Payton has seen this year. Spencer
41:33
Rattler got his first start with their car out.
41:35
Sounds like he'll be out there again Thursday. What
41:37
did Rattler show you just in his first few
41:39
plays? Show me that they have a lot
41:42
of confidence in him and they're going to Clint
41:44
Kubiak, the offensive coordinator, is going to scheme
41:46
specific plays for him to throw on the
41:48
run. Over 33% of his throws
41:50
when he was moving eight or more
41:52
miles per hour. And this was his
41:54
first play. It's a designed rollout. 25%
41:57
of his dropbacks are designed rollouts. He's not going
41:59
to play. like Tom Brady in the backfield scanning
42:02
the entire field. He's gonna either get them moving
42:04
by design or he's gonna utilize his legs to
42:06
extend plays. This is a really good thing we
42:08
saw. Now, in the second half, they weren't able
42:10
to do this because the run game wasn't there,
42:13
but with the amount of players they're missing on
42:15
the offensive line, moving the pocket and getting Rattler
42:17
moving is how they have a chance to win
42:19
this game on Thursday. Meanwhile, you've
42:21
got a Broncos front led by a guy named Zach
42:23
Allen, maybe not a household name, but what do you
42:25
see from him in that Broncos team? Yeah,
42:28
when you see him on Thursday night on Prime
42:30
Vision, you might think he's the long lost Watt
42:33
brother wearing 99 with the elbow brace, and he
42:35
plays like JJ Watt. He's got a guy, 28
42:37
run stops. That means that
42:39
a tackle that resulted in a negative play on
42:41
a run. He's really doing his
42:44
best in the NFL to break through those
42:46
blocks, but he also does it in the
42:48
pass game. You know, when his time in
42:50
Arizona, he really came on at the end,
42:52
earned him this big contract for the Broncos,
42:54
and now he's able to get in the
42:56
backfield, not just on runs, but on pass.
42:58
With Patrick Lutain being questionable, Zach Allen's the guy
43:00
they're gonna lean on as the linchpin for this
43:03
defense. Thank you, as
43:05
always, Sam. You can watch Sam
43:07
every week on Thursday Night Football's
43:09
Prime Vision with NextGenStats Alternate Stream.
43:11
Tomorrow night's coverage of Broncos Saints
43:13
on Prime Video with NFL Plus
43:15
begins at 7 p.m. Eastern with
43:17
TNF Tonight. Devontae Adams'
43:19
debut with the Jets will have to
43:21
wait a few more days, but it
43:23
sure sounds like he is gonna be
43:25
out there Sunday night for the Jets
43:27
against the Stalers. We'll take one more
43:29
look at that debut and a big
43:31
trade and a big day in the
43:33
NFL next on the Insiders presented by
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Progressive Insurance. nfl.com/rookies where
43:38
you can vote for coverage of
43:40
Broncos Saints on Prime Video with
43:42
NFL Plus begins at 7 p.m.
43:45
Eastern with TNF Tonight. Devontae
43:48
Adams' debut with the Jets will have
43:50
to wait a few more days, but
43:52
it sure sounds like he is gonna
43:54
be out there Sunday night for the
43:56
Jets against the Stalers. We'll take one
43:58
more look at that. debut and a
44:00
big trade and a big day in
44:02
the NFL. Next on the Insiders presented
44:04
by Progressive Insurance. nfl.com/rookies where
44:06
you can vote for this
44:09
week's Pepsi Zero Sugar Rookie
44:11
of the Week, Jaden Daniels among
44:14
those nominated, get online to vote.
44:17
It was a day across the
44:19
NFL here. We had trades galore.
44:21
We had, look at the beat
44:23
by beat. I have not moved
44:26
from right here this entire time,
44:28
three trades, a likely quarterback
44:30
change in Pittsburgh. Hassan Redick has permission
44:32
to seek a trade. We got Tom
44:34
Brady's back as an owner. We
44:37
also had a big deal within the past
44:39
few minutes, the Lions locking up defensive tackle,
44:41
Aleem McNeil. Who? Aleem McNeil
44:43
on a four year $97 million
44:46
deal with $55 million guaranteed. And
44:48
also this, the 12 year anniversary
44:50
of Ian Rappaport getting hit in
44:53
the face by a football, a
44:55
ball that now has been enshrined to Ian in the
44:57
pro football hall of fame. How does it feel?
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