In this episode, I sit down with Karin von Hippel, Director of the Royal United Services Institute (RUSI) in London. We explore her extensive career in think tanks and foreign policy, including her work with the United Nations, the State Department, and the European Union. Karin shares insights into her early career, discussing her first job working on Somalia's political options post-dictatorship. We delve into the concept of resilience in conflict zones and the importance of national service. Karin reflects on the challenges of geopolitics, the role of think tanks like RUSI, and the complexities of global security threats. We also discuss leadership qualities and the evolving nature of international relations. As Karin prepares to leave RUSI, she offers her perspective on the future of global politics and her own next steps. Join us for a thought-provoking conversation on leadership, resilience, and the intricate web of global affairs.