0:00

So I feel like I owe Grady an explanation because he

0:05

popped into, I. Logged on almost immediately after you sent the link.

0:09

I saw some drama happening. Oh, was it Ozzy drama?

0:15

It was not. No. It was my wife.

0:19

So I send the link, I get the headphones in,

0:23

and I'm in a recording booth. Right. I teach podcasting at a university,

0:27

so it's a semi legit setup and I'm in the zone. Right.

0:32

You have a built thing behind you. It's very.

0:35

Fancy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Very fancy.

0:38

And I feel like I put my headphones on and everything,

0:42

and all of a sudden there's a voice right in my ear. I did it.

0:52

She meant she got Roz to sleep because she's been a little extra fussy

0:57

and likes to bounce up and then run to one end of the crib going

1:03

and then running to the other end of the crib. Loose subway,

1:08

ambulatory babies do. Right? Exactly. That's normal. That's fine.

1:12

But don't come up right in my ear. Whisper.

1:17

I did it. So I naturally jump three feet in the air, which I'm like five.

1:26

Five. So that's proportionately like Mario. Yeah.

1:34

Presumably cleaning to the ceiling like a cat. Yes.

1:39

And I look at her. Like, what the fuck did I do to you?

1:45

I didn't know who it was. I didn't know what was happening.

1:48

And she's laughing and she says, you watch all this scary,

1:51

spooky shit all the time. And I said, yeah, when I'm looking at the tv,

1:54

the TV's not behind me. That's amazing.

2:00

You realize the next time we're over at your house,

2:03

we're absolutely going to do the same thing to you.

2:07

And enough time will go by that you'll have forgotten this conversation and

2:12

it'll be a nice shock. Welcome to Imported Horror.

2:38

This is the podcast that brings you the very best of homicidal coworkers,

2:42

arboreal creatures. Stop motion relics and milk from Beyond

2:49

the Shining Seas, please. I'm Marcus.

2:54

I'm here with my co-hosts who are both working for the weekend.

2:59

Melissa and Grady.

3:05

Let that one pass by. Friday. It's Friday. Friday, we've got to get done on Friday.

3:12

Stop. Obviously, there's some really fun covers of that song on YouTube. Incidentally,

3:18

they take it in a totally different direction. But yeah,

3:22

we're taking with our schedule. As we're doing our episodes on Friday, that took way too long.

3:29

Yeah, I didn't get that either. And also, wow. Yeah,

3:34

working for what other. Working for the weekend, the.

3:39

Covers of the song. How could it have different.

3:43

Two different songs? So there's Friday, Friday by Rebecca Black.

3:47

Yeah. And then working for the Weekend is that famous eighties song that nobody knows

3:52

who sang it, but everybody knows all the words because of Chris Farley.

3:56

Okay. Okay. All right. Oh, poor Rebecca Black.

4:01

I mean, yeah. No, she did Not Deserve, yeah. Yeah.

4:05

But there are really cool covers of that song out there. So.

4:09

There. Are, anyway,

4:14

this week I've got Australian Creature feature Carnifex on

4:18

Tubi. Brady's got the Belco experiment from the US and Colombia on VOD and the

4:24

Prime evils, which I didn't realize was out.

4:27

I'm really stoked to talk about that.

4:29

And quick correction. Belco Experiment is also on Tubi.

4:35

Oh, sweet. Ooh. I am totally saying that because I had spoilers for my review.

4:40

No one should pay to watch the Belco experiment.

4:45

And Melissa is doing a movie called Milk,

4:49

and I'm assuming it's not the queer political drama starring Sean Penn,

4:53

but IMD, imdb and I are both very confused and got nothing.

4:57

No. I thought it was, and I thought, wow, that's Canadian. And also, wow,

5:01

that story must be a lot darker than I thought it was,

5:03

and I already thought it was pretty dark. It is a horror short from my new favorite website, short verse.

5:12

I'll never get enough of it. That makes considerable more sense. Yes.

5:22

And we're still tinkering. We're always tinkering.

5:26

We're always toying with stuff. So new schedule and maybe new feature that we're trying out for the second

5:31

episode. So Melissa, you Ken has trivia for us.

5:35

I Ken has trivia. Okay, so we have a couple here,

5:40

and I think I'm going to do two of them.

5:43

And there are reasons why I picked both of them that you'll figure out.

5:47

But we all know that Night of the Living Dead,

5:50

the original George Romero got me into horror, one of my favorite movies.

5:57

Here's a question for you guys. What are the zombies referred to as in Night of the Living

6:04

Dead? Oh, I know this.

6:09

It's not zombie. They don't actually say the Z word.

6:13

I would make it a trivia question. I would make it a multiple choice,

6:17

but now I know if I do that, you're going to get it. Oh.

6:20

Yeah. No, it's right there. And it's not dead eye either. I know that.

6:25

No. Nope. Walker's was The Walking Dead.

6:33

Yep. I can hear Joe Bob Briggs saying it and talking about this.

6:46

He did Night of the Living Dead. And there's a little follow up to that one. It's not, no.

6:57

So there's a little follow up to this one, and it's not going to be the second trivia question,

7:01

but it's kind of just a trivia within this,

7:03

what George Romero zombie film did they first utter the word zombie?

7:10

That's probably the one in the mall.

7:14

Night of the Living Dead two. The search for George.

7:21

It's the one in the mall. It's one of the dead 1978.

7:25

Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I can tell you that it was shot outside of Pittsburgh.

7:31

I can tell you that George Romero got his start working on Mr. Rogers

7:35

neighborhood. I can tell you that.

7:39

I can tell you that the night of the Living Dead is public

7:44

domain due to a massive fuck up by their lawyers.

7:48

And if zombies hadn't been public domain as soon as they'd have been invented,

7:52

we'd have a very different horror escape than we do now.

7:56

So that's kind of neat. I'll give you a hint.

8:01

Yeah. There is a video game that just had a

8:06

series released that has to do with that video game.

8:10

It's a horror video game, I guess you could say.

8:12

And that particular video game has the same word that they

8:17

call their monsters.

8:21

Does it count as a hint if it's more complicated than the original.

8:27

Questions? No. No follower?

8:40

No. I don't remember. It's right there, but I'm not going to get it.

8:50

It starts with a G. The garners? No, the Goonies. No, that doesn't make any sense.

8:56

I'm ashamed for even suggesting that I'm ashamed.

9:03

Yeah, I got nothing. Oh, I knew that.

9:15

And now do you know the video game that I'm referring to?

9:17

I actually don't. And now I'm blanking on the name.

9:23

The nuclear war one fall is Fall fallout. Thank you. Fallout.

9:28

Okay. Fallout. Yes.

9:32

They're called ghouls. The people that have been affected by radiation.

9:37

Yeah, they're basically, they're not like zombies in how we think of zombies in other media.

9:42

They just look really gross because their skin's all mutated and otherwise

9:45

they're normal if kind of Jack Cassie.

9:50

Yep. But they do refer to them as schools,

9:53

or I guess the gul, the singular one,

9:57

but I think that they refer to more of them as GULs. Yeah, no, there are whole species.

10:00

I'm remembering. Well, not species, but there's significantly more than one of 'em.

10:06

Excellent. So yeah. So in the sequel, the Dawn of the Dead,

10:10

which is where they actually first say zombies,

10:13

they do that because there's a character from Trinidad,

10:17

and that is the first person in the movies to refer to the creature of Zombie

10:22

because based on the stories from his grandfather who was practitioner

10:27

and knowledge of voodoo zombies. Yeah, it all has roots in Haitian and Caribbean folklore and

10:35

some of the old schools not like White Zombie, the whole notion,

10:39

it's more similar to Frankenstein than Romero ultimately.

10:44

And the monster has evolved quite a bit. No,

10:49

I should have known that. That was good. That's a good one.

10:51

It's a hard one, right? Yep.

10:53

Alright, so I have another one that I will give you multiple choice.

10:57

I don't think either of you are going to know this because this trivia is

11:02

real like trivia. Not a lot of people have talked about this,

11:05

but I think it's really cool. So what appliance,

11:11

or I should say, what object did several cast and crew members

11:17

demand to be removed from their hotel rooms during the filming

11:22

of the exorcism of Emily Rose? Coffee,

11:27

pots, TVs, the Bible, or radios?

11:35

Well, the Bible's not an appliance, and that's kind of a weird request.

11:41

Is it? If you're doing something about exorcism. I mean, yeah,

11:47

you might want one on hand actually. Trying.

11:54

I've never actually seen the exorcism of Emily Rose,

11:59

so I'm trying to think of what I know of that movie through pop culture,

12:02

osmosis. And what would make sense from that movie that would skive out

12:08

the cast and crew enough that they wouldn't want to look at one.

12:13

In a hotel room? Their hotel rooms. In the hotel rooms during.

12:16

The filming. Okay, so tv,

12:19

microwave and radio.

12:25

It was coffee pot, tv, radio or Bible. Okay.

12:32

The radio doesn't make a lot of sense unless it's filmed somewhere in Eastern

12:36

Europe and they just all come with radios. But. I think I'm going to go with Coffee Pot. Okay,

12:45

great. I'm going to go with TV just as a one in four.

12:50

Chance shot in the dark. Okay. You are both wrong. It is the radio really.

12:59

Scott Derickson, the director of Exorcism of

13:04

Emily Rose, confirmed that the film's lead actor Jennifer Carpenter's radio would

13:10

inexplicably turn on in the middle of the night while they were filming.

13:15

So not only did that happen to Carpenter, but the CoStar,

13:20

Laura Linney also experienced some paranormal activity.

13:25

Her radio would turn on three or four times during the night.

13:29

And so they have removed, they requested the radios be removed because it freaked them out so bad because

13:35

here they were filming the exorcism of Emily Rose.

13:40

So this is try to sleep do with a particularly spooky radio related scene

13:45

in the exorcism. This was just either an electrical short or a hotel

13:51

employee fucking with them. Yep. Okay.

13:56

Oh, you mean like the little alarm clock radio things by the day? Oh,

14:01

that makes more sense. No, those damn things, every time I travel,

14:06

they go off. The first night,

14:09

I was at a conference in Philadelphia a couple of weeks ago and was four 30 in

14:14

the morning. The damn thing just goes off and there was nothing paranormal about it.

14:19

It was because that was the previous person in the room had set that alarm and

14:22

then just hadn't cleared it. But I'm groggy,

14:25

just caveman slapping it, trying to make it stop.

14:31

So apparently to a couple of times

14:36

when it would come on, it would be in a section of Pearl Jam song Alive where they would just be

14:41

singing the phrase, I'm alive, I'm still alive,

14:44

I'm still alive over and over again. And I have to think that what probably happened with that is that may have been

14:50

an intro song, a radio station used or whatever,

14:54

and it went off at the same time every day or every night, but

15:01

Or somebody missing radios. Yeah, exactly.

15:08

Jennifer Carpenter and Laura. I would not want to mess with those two women new.

15:14

They're incredible horror icons, but it would've been really funny.

15:18

If that's the case, I've got a bunch more,

15:24

but I'm going to save them because they're all really good.

15:26

I hope that those two were kind of fun and.

15:29

They. Gave you a little insight into two different things about movies.

15:44

So we got three imported horrors dropping this week,

15:48

and one that I missed that I want to go back to September, October,

15:52

are both going to be busy, busy, busy. So buckle up and there are a couple of recurring themes in the ones we're going

15:58

to talk about today. See if you can spot 'em.

16:03

The first, which actually I don't think is part of either of the running themes,

16:08

dropping on VOD on Friday, September 6th.

16:10

This is the Well from Italy,

16:14

a budding art restorer travels to a small Italian village to bring a

16:18

medieval painting back to its former glory.

16:22

Little does she know she's placing her life in danger from an evil curse and a

16:26

monster born of myth and brutal pain.

16:31

So the art restorer in question is played by Scream Queen extraordinaire,

16:35

Lauren Lara of Terrifi two fame. This one,

16:39

one looks like fun to me. It looked like it didn't take itself too.

16:43

Seriously. I

16:48

kind of hope it doesn't because I will admit that.

16:50

The scary Well painting monster looks a little

16:55

too much like Golum from Lord of the Rings for me to take it seriously.

17:02

Once you see that, you cannot see. That's true. I can see that. Yeah.

17:09

So whether it's good or not, I have to see it because of course,

17:13

the first comment under the YouTube trailer was somebody going, ah,

17:19

another female protagonist in a horror movie. So just for you commenter,

17:24

I'm going to make sure I watch this so many times.

17:28

Watch that be the director under an alias that's just trolling you.

17:34

Yes. I want them to watch it with all the ladies.

17:38

That sounded so much less creepy in my head than when I said it.

17:43

Out loud. I wasn't going to say anything, but okay. Okay.

17:52

And it's Italian, so your heritage, you sort of have to watch it.

17:56

I do, yeah. It's kind of a necessity.

18:02

This kind of interests me too, because one of my side hustles,

18:06

and I know it's a different skillset completely from restoring old paintings,

18:10

is I digitally restore old photographs.

18:14

And I can absolutely see how restoring old paintings or photographs

18:20

could work as an angle for a horror movie.

18:24

Kind of like archeology in a weird way. You're unearthing and reconstructing the past and maybe you reconstruct

18:30

something you shouldn't. Yep, absolutely.

18:37

So it's freaky. I remember it being honestly pretty scary.

18:41

But there's a movie called The Canal There for Ireland where at least

18:46

part of it is the guy who's working as an old classic film restorer and

18:51

digitizer because a lot of those old physical films,

18:55

they weren't meant to last decades and decades. And so they start to degrade.

18:58

And so he's one of the guys working for a film commission that restores it and

19:02

then digitizes it. And yeah, he starts to see some stuff.

19:08

That's really cool. By the way, Grady, I didn't know you did that. Yeah.

19:12

Like a super cool talent and yeah, you could make a lot of good money from that, can't you?

19:20

Especially now, people probably want their photos restored quite often.

19:27

And. To be clear,

19:30

what I do mostly just kind amounts to scanning old photographs and

19:36

touching them up in Photoshop as best I can to make them.

19:41

Not look faded and old and.

19:44

Damaged. So it's not, like I said, not.

19:48

Quite the same as taking an old painting and doing the same thing

19:53

physically. Cleaning it, but it's a thing that's.

19:58

Super cool. I have to send you a TikTok.

20:03

There is somebody ordered a Temu,

20:08

a temu blanket or something. Temu is like, wish,

20:12

you know how they say the wish version of something?

20:17

It's the same thing. Temu is like you pay tiny,

20:21

tiny little bit of money and you get something in return.

20:24

So it's a weird chop. Everybody else will know what I'm talking about.

20:29

Emily will know what I'm talking about. Anyway, I have no idea.

20:31

What you're. All about. Yeah. So she sent in old, it's this old family photo, like an online shop thing,

20:38

and I know about the human rights abuses, but that's about it.

20:44

So she sent this family photo that she wanted to be put on

20:49

a blanket, and it looked good up until you got to the faces,

20:54

and it looked like somebody just kind of tried to draw in the faces,

20:58

but they didn't know how to draw. And it turned out terrifying.

21:04

And I kind of love it. So I got to send you that TikTok.

21:08

I'm thinking of that guy that drew a smiley face on the Mona Lisa.

21:14

That's basically like a budget painting restorer kind of deal.

21:19

I forget what show, but just it did not go well.

21:25

No. Oh man.

21:30

Well, also on the sixth, this time on Shutter,

21:33

we have the demon disorder from Australia.

21:37

Tells the story of Graham Jake and Philip Riley and their deceased

21:42

father, their past pasts collide.

21:51

Their lives collide. No, that's not the same thing.

21:54

Their pasts collide when a family's secret is discovered

21:58

leading their father's garage to become the site of revenge from beyond the

22:03

grave. Now, I could go back and edit that, but I'm not going to do that.

22:08

That's fair. You listen. Our people know who we are.

22:16

I love that they see us warts and all.

22:20

Well, I just got an email from a student saying, hello, professor Frank.

22:26

I'm totally going to call you that from now on.

22:30

That is the only thing I'm going to call you ever from this day forward.

22:37

Professor Frank, now.

22:40

Amazing. In his, I hesitate to say defense.

22:46

My phone is Autocorrected funk to Frank before,

22:49

so that might not have been completely his fault.

22:53

Oh, okay. Fair enough. Fair. Enough. I am still going to call you Professor Frank from that one.

22:59

Oh yeah. So this one,

23:03

I feel like this is the start of the theme, right?

23:05

So is it like dads are the theme fatherhood.

23:09

Bad dads? Yes. Bad dads. Okay. So it was funny, I was trying to figure out the theme.

23:15

So I watched the first one and then I watched the second one and I'm like,

23:17

is the theme demons? And then I watched the third one and I'm like, oh,

23:22

it's daddy issues. I was way off.

23:27

What'd you think? I thought it was mid two thousands neoconservative hunting accidents that aren't

23:32

actually accidents also.

23:37

Yes. Yes.

23:40

Not sure where the painting restore fit into that,

23:43

but I was kind of doing some NPO nippo calisthenics there.

23:47

Dick Cheney would like a word. Oh God.

23:56

But yeah, bad dad. Lots of body horror. This has a good reputation.

24:01

It was mentioned of the Bloody Disgusting podcast recently,

24:04

and it definitely looks intense.

24:07

The weld looks like it probably doesn't take itself too seriously.

24:12

It might even go a little bit far in the opposite direction. This,

24:16

they would call this elevated horror. Yeah.

24:19

I could see that. I had a difficult time seeing that.

24:22

And I kind of realized something about myself watching this trailer.

24:27

And I don't know if it's a good thing, but I'm going to hash it out here in this private publicly broadcast

24:33

podcast with my friends. It is very difficult for me to take anything with an Australian accent

24:41

seriously. And I'm worried about what that says about me and my attitude towards Australia.

24:47

And also I was watching these trailers in the same room as my parents who were watching TV and an Outback Steakhouse

24:56

commercial came on right at the same time that I was watching this trailer,

24:59

which did not help. That's incredible.

25:04

My point is, this whole time I was expecting one of them to threaten to sneak up on that

25:08

demon and jam a thumb up. Its butthole. Yeah.

25:15

Yeah. I, and. Maybe that happens. I don't know.

25:19

That is an old South Park reference for those of you that didn't get it,

25:22

so that you don't think I'm insane. Speaking of mid two thousands.

25:26

References. We'll always reference South.

25:32

Oh, earlier than that. This was like a nineties. This was nineties South Park.

25:38

I thought early was old. This.

25:40

Is. Second season. Oh, I thought it was the Russell. Crow episode.

25:44

No. Yeah, not. Oh. Okay. Was it first season? I thought it was first season.

25:47

Maybe it was second season. Shoot. It had to have been when Steve Irwin was still alive because that's what they

25:55

were. Thinking. So then probably the second season rather,

26:02

or first season, anyway. I'm going to sneak right up on them and jam my thumb up. Its butthole.

26:11

And in fairness, the Australian sense of humor,

26:14

a lot of them would think that was really funny.

26:17

I think don't want to speak for an entire nation. But.

26:24

Anyway, my point is I may have a little bit of a bias when it comes to Australia and

26:28

that may not be a good thing. Fair.

26:33

Enough. And so I have a movie for you.

26:35

Let's bookmark that thought because the movie I did this week,

26:40

big check mark for everything you just said, and it's fantastic. Okay,

26:46

love it. Also, keeping with Bad dads on the sixth on VOD

26:53

betrayal from the United Kingdom,

26:56

three brothers returned to the remote woodland where they killed their abusive

27:00

father only to discover his shower grave.

27:05

What is wrong with me? I love that. It's like the episode that we really.

27:12

Choose not to edit it. Well, I mean,

27:17

I used to listen to Every Minute Grace,

27:20

the shower grave of Doctor of Professor Frank.

27:25

I used to listen to every minute of this and I would edit and trim and

27:29

everything that it took forever. And at some point I was like,

27:32

why am I doing this? I'll just bookmark the times when Melissa goes to do full blown Miss Andry,

27:39

and I'll cut that out. Call a day. Yeah.

27:43

But usually I can also talk. So.

27:47

The Shower grave of Professor Frank sounds like an AI generated horror title.

27:52

Honestly, it sounds like a tub movie that I would watch.

27:57

I might ask ai, ask to write a script.

28:01

Let's see what happens. Do. It. Sure. Why.

28:03

Not? Three brothers returned to the remote woodland where they killed their abusive

28:10

father only to discover his shallow grave is now

28:15

empty, forcing them to question one another's loyalty with devastating consequences as

28:21

fear and paranoia set in. So this is a good reputation.

28:29

I mean. Bad dad. Yeah.

28:32

Bad dad. I am guessing that the dad turns out to be a zombie or revenant of

28:39

some kind and probably way off, but we will see.

28:44

Yeah. Yeah. I dunno. The IMDB reviews were pretty wild.

28:50

I would assume this will hit streaming somewhere at some point.

28:53

I thought it was a shutter release.

28:56

I thought they had the shutter logo in there. But when I went back,

29:00

when I went back and watched it again, I did not see the shutter logo.

29:05

So I think I'm wrong. About that Demon disorder. And the other one we're doing both do.

29:10

So you might have just gotten conflated. Yeah, I think so. So the other one, late August,

29:16

our friends in the Great White North gave us another wilderness horror.

29:20

And this is the other tie into the theme.

29:25

Adam McDonald, who directed Backcountry and Pie whack is returning for another.

29:30

Don't go into the Woods Tale called Out Come The Wolves.

29:35

And the Bloody Disgusting podcast mentioned this one too.

29:38

They said McDonald considers this part three of a wilderness horror

29:43

trilogy with those other two. And it stars Missy Pergram,

29:48

who was also in Backcountry and Backcountry was a

29:52

very scary movie. That really.

29:57

Very scary movie. It was, yeah. No, it was. It really was. It scared the crap out of me.

30:06

So realistic predatory bear attacks do happen from time to time

30:11

and just the circumstances and everything, it really shook me.

30:16

I loved it and also hated it because oh my God.

30:21

But wolves don't attack people, so I'm a little suspicious of this one.

30:25

I think something else might be going on. Again, the wolves are a metaphor. YouTube comments.

30:31

Yeah. Yes. That would be. My.

30:35

The first comment was friend zoned the movie.

30:48

I mean. So was there just a raging misogynist watching all the same trailers as you at

30:53

the exact same time? Apparently.

30:58

Okay. But I feel like that's at least a little accurate based on what I

31:12

thought of the trailer. Well, they definitely set that up.

31:16

And Backcountry had some elements of that too,

31:18

where a different version of it could have turned into a slasher instead of

31:23

a killer pair movie trailer definitely wants you to think that.

31:28

But we've also seen some actual Killer Wolf movies before The

31:32

Gray, or what was that terrible one that we watched with

31:41

one of the scars guards. And Jeffrey Wright. You remember?

31:54

No, I'm thinking of Kevin's. It'll come to me.

32:04

So who wants to go first?

32:07

Do you want to keep experimenting with Australia, Grady?

32:10

Because I think you would like Let's do that. Australia. Let's do Australia.

32:15

Get all the Australia jokes out of our system. Okay, so.

32:19

Hold the dark. Thank you. Hold the dark. Yes, yes. I did not enjoy it.

32:24

I didn't think you did either. No, no.

32:28

So I watched car effects from Australia

32:33

on Tuby IMDB summary,

32:37

an aspiring documentarian and two conservationists venture into the

32:42

outback to record animals displaced by bush fires.

32:46

What is a bush fire? Why am I so bad at this?

32:55

Well, and it's Australia, right? So is it bush fire or brush fire?

33:01

Oh, Bush fire makes much more sense.

33:03

So I didn't misspell it because I was thinking it was brush fire,

33:07

but then I didn't see an R. Is. Marcus the she of the professor.

33:19

Be so bad night of the bus fire? I'm a professional. We do professional things,

33:31

an aspiring documentarian and two conservationists

33:35

venture into the outback to record animals displaced by bush fires.

33:40

Why is that one word? Shouldn't that be two different words where they discover

33:46

a Purifying new species, I think.

33:51

I mean, yeah, professional,

33:56

doing professional things. So anyway,

34:01

I saw this on a Saturday night. Emily and Roz were asleep. I was tired.

34:05

I was in that weird neutral zone where I didn't want to get too invested in a

34:10

movie and I didn't want to watch a good movie,

34:13

but I also didn't want to waste my time with a dumpster dive and watch a bad

34:16

movie. And that's a real fine line to

34:22

walk. So

34:26

I went to Tubi as one does under such circumstances and Tubi

34:31

once again, scratch that itch real good.

34:34

And I appreciate that this has the heart and soul of a nineties

34:39

creature feature all the way down to a shameless quote,

34:42

because of course they quoted that guy. Of course they did.

34:47

It's beautiful. The fox molder moment where the creature is really cool.

34:54

It's got a great sense of humor, and the monster is in the words of molder within the realm of extreme

35:01

possibility. So it's fun. Get some popcorn,

35:06

get a beer. It's an Australian monster movie. They shot it in the outback,

35:12

the scariest parts of the movie. Honestly,

35:14

there's at one point where the documentarian who's not accustomed to being out

35:18

in the woods in a tent, conservationists are,

35:21

and the documentarian is hearing all these animals making these sounds that I'm

35:26

assuming they were actually making in real life out there on the woods with this

35:30

just small team filming this movie.

35:33

And they're legitimately freaky as all get like

35:38

koalas. They're adorable, right? They're super cute to look at.

35:43

They sound like the literal spawn of Satan.

35:49

It took me a while to realize you were talking about the animals making animals

35:54

sounds and not the documentarians making the animal sounds

35:59

in the back while they were filming.

36:02

Why would anyone ever do that?

36:05

I don't know. That's why I was confused.

36:10

No, they had a camera. They had actors in the outback and they had the actors responding to the real

36:16

life animal sounds, including a koala,

36:19

which legitimately sounds terrifying. And you're like, what the hell is that?

36:23

And is it going to kill me quickly or slowly? And no, it's just a cute,

36:27

adorable little koala. Insert joke about.

36:31

Australian wildlife here. So yeah, I mean, yeah, it's that kind of movie.

36:42

It is a creature feature that it feels very

36:47

nineties. They shot it out in the outback.

36:51

The ending could have been a little bit better, but it still worked for me.

36:54

The reviews really panned it because they said, oh, well,

36:57

the monster doesn't look good, and the CGI looks new. It's like,

37:01

it's a low budget monster movie. What do you expect?

37:09

That's a completely unfair criticism. And I thought, given

37:14

presumably this is a low budget movie, I didn't look it up.

37:17

But given those constraints, the monster I thought was really clever and fun and looked

37:23

fine. It's not going to win any visual effects awards, but it looks fine.

37:29

That just seems like a really unfair criticism.

37:34

As long as they didn't have a hairless Moby as a werewolf,

37:38

I'm okay with any other thing that any of these movies wanted to do For a fact.

37:43

They did not. This was not where, no,

37:45

this was a better movie all around them where

37:50

the characters were likable. The Fox Molder moment and the monster were genuinely cool.

37:56

The subtitles lagged a little bit behind the dialogue,

37:59

and because they shot it out in the Outback, it was literally dark.

38:03

Not figuratively dark, but literally dark.

38:06

So I wound up having to listen a little more carefully and watch a little more

38:10

closely than I would've really liked for a monster movie on Tuby. But even so,

38:17

it's fine. That subtitle thing seems to be a problem with Tuby in general.

38:22

I ran into the same issue when I watched the Velco experiment. Yeah.

38:29

There's a couple of movies that I watched that had that issue,

38:32

and then there are some that it's on point.

38:35

So I don't know who does captions.

38:40

I would assume it's not the movie.

38:44

I. Think I don't actually know. Yeah, that's something I haven't been meaning to look into for a while,

38:50

especially for our thing, we have to do subtitles for a lot of stuff

38:57

that feels like information. We should be a little more conversant then.

39:01

I'm going to look into that. Yeah, that'd be great. Awesome. Next.

39:04

Time. It comes up. I'm just curious.

39:07

Yeah. Well, and this, they matched and their English,

39:12

they were speaking English, and even with the accent, you can tell there weren't any translation issues, but they were just delayed,

39:19

which in the beginning is fun because the beginning is just,

39:22

you don't see the monster, but it eats something and the thing is getting eaten because you see that.

39:27

And so the little subtitle with the parentheses monster crunching sounds

39:32

that pops up after the monster crunching sounds begin.

39:35

And it's like reminding you, Hey, these are monster crunching sounds. It's like,

39:39

yes, tub Me. I know. Thank you. Very good job there.

39:42

What really annoys me is when subtitles spoil things.

39:47

There's one movie where, I can't remember,

39:51

it wasn't a very good movie, but it's one movie a few years ago,

39:54

but it spoiled the name of the antagonist and that something that a character

39:59

was dreaming about was a villain.

40:02

I think it was that video game one. I can't remember what it was called.

40:05

But anyway. Oh, I think you're right. The one with Robert England.

40:10

Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

40:14

I know exactly. Yes. And it did. Yes.

40:18

It totally did. It totally did. That was on Netflix.

40:21

That's going to drive me up the wall. Well, and so it did that too. There was a couple,

40:27

and I want to say maybe thanks Killing It did that too,

40:31

because it had the voice of the killer and it said the

40:36

character's name blah blah with. I'm like, God damn it. Really?

40:41

Yeah. Shoes or Die. Oh.

40:43

Yeah. Totally did that.

40:49

But Car Fix was fun. I would say Grady,

40:51

for your particular predilection of not being able to take Australia seriously,

40:55

this is a great one because this movie doesn't take itself seriously at all. And

41:00

it's not slap sticky, it's not outright horror comedy,

41:04

but it's a fun monster movie. It knows what it is.

41:08

It's leaning into it. It has fun.

41:10

I'm not going to say who they quote,

41:14

but you know who it's,

41:17

you're going to see the quote coming from a mile away.

41:20

You're going to say it with the movie and you're going to love it. And.

41:24

I need to know. The quote. You know the quote? You absolutely know the quote.

41:30

It's from the nineties apparently. Yes, very much from the nineties.

41:35

From the nineties. Awesome.

41:37

I think I gave it three stars on Letterboxed. I liked it.

41:42

It's not really scary. Maybe a one, maybe a two, but it's a.

41:47

Put on the background movie. Good. I don't want to think too much. I'm halfway on my phone,

41:53

but I'm watching this type of thing. It was fun. I liked it.

41:58

Awesome. Grady,

42:01

did you want to go next or did you want me to go next?

42:05

Well, I've got two movies that I'm going to talk about,

42:08

one of which is I enjoyed,

42:12

but it's not technically eligible for the podcast,

42:15

but it has some connections to the things we've done that are eligible,

42:18

that are kind of neat that I'm going to get into. And then I have another movie that I am going to swing out with a golf club for

42:25

several minutes. So why don't you go ahead and do.

42:29

Yours? Do you want to do this? Okay, I can definitely do that.

42:36

So again, I have been obsessed with short verse,

42:41

I can't get enough of these short horror movies, and I'm actually,

42:45

so it's expanding my

42:49

understanding of what I find horrifying,

42:54

what I think scares me the most.

42:56

And this really preyed on

43:01

the fact that something can feel normal,

43:03

something can feel every day you can be talking to a person,

43:07

but that person isn't who you think they are.

43:10

And not everything is how it seems. And it's that sitting in uncomfortableness that scares me the most.

43:17

So this movie's called Milk. It's actually a staff pick from Vimeo.

43:24

It won a couple awards at South by Southwest. It's 2018,

43:28

it's by Santiago Menini.

43:31

And Little Synopsis is one late night,

43:34

a young teen goes into the kitchen for a glass of milk.

43:37

Upon encountering his sleepless mother, he quickly realizes things are not as they seem.

43:43

So immediately one of the first things you notice about this movie

43:47

is you have a shot that looks like almost like

43:52

Alfred Hitchcock's the Birds. There's a bunch of crows on a line and unassuming house,

43:58

and it just feels incredibly unsettling. You dunno why it's unsettling,

44:02

but it's unsettling. I loved this because when I went back,

44:07

I rewatched it with the director and writer's commentary.

44:11

That's what they were going for. The Alfred Hitchcock things are just a little bit

44:17

outside the realm of where they should be and you're not really sure why.

44:23

And it starts off kind of innocently enough. I mean,

44:26

the kid goes downstairs, you see the light on upstairs,

44:31

but you see that all the other lights are off in the house and kid goes

44:35

downstairs grabs a milk carton. Now this is one of those things where it's very obvious.

44:41

It was a very obvious, Hey, look at this.

44:43

But it's also something that you would see all the time.

44:46

This is obviously an older time,

44:49

and so you have the milk carton with the missing on it and two pictures of

44:53

children. Yes.

44:55

And why you can't really see the pictures. You're already like,

45:00

okay, it's centered in the frame enough where it feels uncomfortable.

45:06

And you kind of see a shadow behind

45:11

the kid and you don't really know what it is.

45:15

And then it just kind of starts to get creepier and creepier to where

45:20

you have the mom who's talking to the kid. And the first time,

45:24

the time the mom is talking to the kid, she yells at him, get a damn glass,

45:28

stop drinking right out of the carton.

45:33

Very something that Dan would do and everybody would do whatever.

45:38

And then it just starts, she starts to sound a little weird.

45:44

And then you see her feet and her feet are dirty. She's been outside.

45:50

And then from the other side of the house you hear

45:55

his mother calling him. And

46:01

for that, for it being 10 minutes,

46:06

it felt like the longest time of not

46:10

knowing who was really the mom who was

46:15

there for him. Are they both? Maybe this is not,

46:19

and it just. Why is the Dopel hanger such a stick? It was uncomfortable for using a glass.

46:28

And there is some kind of body horror in this in terms of

46:35

faces, and it pulls it off so well.

46:39

A lot of times I feel like when they do the short films and indie films,

46:43

when they do horror makeup, it doesn't look right. It doesn't look great.

46:48

No, this was done so well and shot so well in the perfect lighting that

46:54

whoever that was, it terrified me.

47:00

And the themes here are just not wanting your kid to grow up,

47:07

wanting to keep them as a child.

47:12

So the director talked about how he kind of got the idea for this,

47:16

and he has a big family, and he was there for the holidays and a couple of his cousins couldn't come.

47:22

And so it was like that longing of missing his cousins.

47:25

But he had gone downstairs in the middle of the night and his mother was on the

47:30

phone with I guess those cousins, and she was whispering because she didn't want to wake up the rest of the house.

47:37

But that eerie feeling of going downstairs, not knowing somebody's there,

47:41

and then somebody whispering and your mother whispering,

47:44

and it just felt so surreal. And that feeling of where we are not going to see

47:51

our cousins, are they going to grow up? We're not going to see them until next year.

47:55

And how much more grown will they be? And the themes in this are interesting.

48:04

It doesn't necessarily have an ending

48:10

or even just a beginning. It's more of just that 10 minutes of fear and it's very open to

48:17

interpretation. Even though they have a solid last line,

48:23

you can interpret what happened a number of different ways.

48:26

And I think that makes it scarier. You can go back and rewatch it and kind of build your own

48:32

backstory as to what's going on.

48:36

And it's just that feeling of you're looking at somebody and that person is

48:40

saying, no, don't go there. That's not who that is.

48:44

I am your mother. And having that other person saying, no, I'm your mother.

48:50

It creeped me out.

48:53

And the shots were perfect,

48:57

just the unassuming house, the perfect lighting,

49:00

just creepy as all hell because it felt so normal

49:06

until you hear the other voice.

49:10

So terror scale, honestly,

49:15

for a short film, it was a two. Because if I was watching this,

49:20

I don't think I would then go upstairs and get a glass of water or something in

49:24

the middle of the night, I got to say. And to have so much packed in such a

49:32

short film. I love when they do that because you can tell so much story in 10 minutes

49:40

and you're either going to be effective at it or it's not going to work.

49:44

And this was incredibly effective.

49:48

And I don't think that it would've worked as a longer movie.

49:51

He's got a bunch more that I want to watch that are on short verse because I do

49:56

like him as a director.

49:59

I think that the way that he films things are really interesting.

50:03

And he actually, so the title scene is water floating Right or Water

50:09

When you're looking at a lake and it's rippling and then it just has the title

50:12

there. He did that with bathtub,

50:16

put some dark towels on the bottom of it, his bathtub, and he shot the water.

50:21

And then overlaid the and way he talked about how he filmed some

50:25

of this stuff, you would've thought he actually had a huge budget because it was really good.

50:31

And no, it was just stupid stuff like that. And that makes it even better.

50:37

He used what he had on hand and he made it amazing.

50:42

So I have a feeling, yeah,

50:44

we're going to see a lot more from him and I hope some feature lengths.

50:48

Nice. Well, and that behind the scenes practical effects stuff,

50:52

you either get really excited about that and it's cool,

50:55

or it stresses you out like nothing else,

50:59

and you just want to go to the computer. And I just love the idea of a couple of people sitting around with a camera

51:06

going, all right, how are we going to do this? And somebody just tosses towels in a bathtub like that kind of

51:12

DIY really works for me. And I hope when that's a fun,

51:17

positive experience. It can be really cool,

51:21

just like any other working environment. When it's toxic, it's toxic.

51:25

But this sounds like it was a lot of fun.

51:28

Well, and I have to say too, listening to him,

51:32

so I watched him do a whole

51:38

voiceover and talk about how he directed the movie and everything,

51:41

and he goes shot by shot and listening to him talk about it,

51:45

you can see that this was his passion and he was so excited about these

51:48

different cool things that he was able to do and how they looked.

51:51

And he is like, oh, does that shot look cool? And so you could tell it's a passion,

51:57

and I think that's where you get the most effective horror movies out of

52:01

somebody who actually has a passion for making it look

52:06

and feel the way you want it to. Yeah, yeah. Really the most effective, anything for that matter. But yeah,

52:11

definitely horror. Yeah. So Milk 2018 on short verse, go watch it.

52:21

Cool. All right.

52:26

So I did. All Grady, are we going to get the good first or the bad first?

52:31

I think I know which one is. First. Wait,

52:36

I'm going to do the good one first because it's going to be considerably

52:38

shorter. It is nothing about,

52:43

it's actually forum per se, so I don't want to spend too much time on it.

52:48

First one I did is the Primevals,

52:51

which was released in 2023,

52:53

despite the fact that the writing and filming initially started in the late

52:57

sixties. So the premise,

53:02

this is from Wikipedia, after a Yeti is killed by a group of Sherpa,

53:06

a team of university scientists travel to Nepal to find the origins of the

53:10

creature teaming up with a rugged tracker,

53:13

the group set out to the Sherpa Village, and after a large avalanche discover,

53:17

a hidden primeval wind populated by prehistoric creatures, ancient hominids,

53:22

and an alien reptilian species.

53:25

I did not realize until I started reading this out loud how spoilery that was,

53:29

but whatever. Anyway, so this movie was a passion project of David Allen.

53:41

He was a prolific stop motion animator, special effects artists,

53:45

did tons of stuff in the seventies and eighties,

53:50

the creature designing special effects for Ghostbusters one and two,

53:54

the stop motion for the Giant Insects And Honey I Shrunk Kids Most relevant to

53:59

our podcast. He was the effects guy for the first three Subspecies movies.

54:06

Noise. He's.

54:08

The man that animated the finger denotes finger.

54:12

Demons. Okay, well then he's incredible. That's all I'm.

54:16

Going to say. Pretty one. Yep. Soon as I found that out,

54:20

that was my entire justification for talking about the movie on the podcast.

54:23

Otherwise, I was just going to leave it at Watch The Primevals. It's neat.

54:29

No, you had to do that. You had to talk about it. It's important.

54:32

Absolutely. Absolutely. So he started writing this in the late sixties.

54:36

It's one of the very first film projects that he started on,

54:39

and he kind of kept coming back to it off and on for several decades,

54:44

just getting a studio to fund it,

54:47

and then losing that funding and just doing some of it on his own and

54:53

got a bunch of, most of the scenes with actors and stuff were filmed in the mid nineties,

54:58

so he was able to get a lot of the non effect shots done then.

55:04

But ultimately, unfortunately, he died in 1999,

55:10

and he left the stop motion puppets, the already film sequences, the scripts,

55:14

storyboards, just everything to one of his colleagues, Chris Kott,

55:18

who struggled for years to find a way to complete it until he

55:23

started an Indiegogo campaign in 2018,

55:25

which is where I had first heard of this.

55:29

I had heard about this before you told me about it, Marcus. And I remember seeing the Indiegogo campaign thinking, oh, okay, that's neat.

55:36

They don't do stop motion anymore. And then I never really thought about it again until you sent me the

55:43

trailer last week, Marcus. I was like, oh yeah, that thing.

55:47

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Bloody disgusting. Had an article about it.

55:50

I didn't realize it was out already, but.

55:53

Just came out last week, I think, or just came onto demand last week.

55:58

I know. I think it did some film festival circuits last year in 2023,

56:05

the release date on it. But it just came to streaming on video, on demand,

56:11

and on Amazon a week or two ago as it was recording, I think.

56:16

Okay. But anyway.

56:22

Movie Really neat Effects, thought it was worth talking about just due to the connections to Full Moon

56:30

Studios and the Subspecies Finger demon guy. Oh, yeah.

56:35

Writing wise, you can kind of tell that this was pasti of several different

56:41

drafts over several decades, and it's definitely the kind of movie that would've been an amazing cult

56:49

classic if it had come up closer to when he first came up with it.

56:53

But nowadays, it shows its age a little bit. And

56:58

if you're going into this expecting a more modern grizzly

57:05

stop motion horror, this won't necessarily scratch that itch.

57:10

But if you come into it expecting a good goofy seventies and eighties

57:15

style adventure movie slash creature feature, this is.

57:19

A good one. Okay.

57:22

Well, and I love that backstory too. It reminds me of Mad God on Shutter,

57:28

which different special effects guy,

57:30

but sort of a similar story where he just worked on it off and on for decades,

57:35

and that is terrifying.

57:38

That is a trippy as hell fever dream that

57:43

is horrifying. Stop motion, brilliantly done, genuinely scary.

57:48

This sounds a lot more digestible, a lot easier.

57:52

I'll say the zing of the stop motion creatures is

57:57

on point. The Eddie admittedly looks a little bit Rankin bass for my taste,

58:03

but the alien creatures and some of the other things that show up in the second

58:07

half of the movie, those might creep you out if Stop motion's,

58:12

the kind of thing that creeps you out. Nice.

58:16

Fair enough. I love that. Makes me want to go back and rewatch stop.

58:20

Motion. Oh God, I loved that movie.

58:25

That was a good one. Yeah. And this one is too,

58:30

let's get to the. Yeah, had to get to it.

58:38

I was curious to see if your opinions had changed from when you last watched it.

58:43

If anything. I like it a little less now, but

58:48

let's get into it. So my other choice of movie this week was from America and

58:54

Columbia released in 2016, the Bellco Experiment

58:59

summary from IMDB In a Twisted Social Experiment,

59:03

80 Americans are locked in their high rise corporate office in Bogota, Columbia.

59:07

I probably mispronounce that and ordered by an unknown voice coming from the

59:11

company's intercom system to participate in a deadly game of kill or be killed.

59:19

So a lot of marketing buzz around this movie at the time.

59:24

And I remember this because we saw this in theaters.

59:27

Yeah, we did. Yeah. This was early 2016.

59:33

Yeah, but before 2016 became 2016, so to.

59:38

Speak. Yeah, just started June 1st. Oh, no.

59:49

I. Had just started at one of my many unpleasant corporate jobs over the years,

59:54

and. That.

59:56

Particularly excited me for the premise of this movie in particular.

1:00:01

But. Yeah, March 17th, 2017, so later than I thought. Oh, okay.

1:00:08

But I definitely remember seeing it with you and one of the twins.

1:00:13

Yeah. I don't remember which one. And it was my idea, I was hyped for this movie,

1:00:17

and I don't know if I've apologized sufficiently for that over the years, but

1:00:23

it wasn't, I mean. I don't know if it was apology worthy, but.

1:00:29

A lot of the marketing buzz surrounding this movie advertised it

1:00:34

as a combination of battle royale and office space,

1:00:38

which is true only in the most literal,

1:00:42

generous sense of the word, and that it's a movie about a killing game that takes place in a corporate

1:00:47

office. So that's it. That's the only.

1:00:52

Pretty much, it lacks both office spaces,

1:00:56

comedic satire and relatability. And any sense of creativity or flare it flare is,

1:01:02

I'm talking about office space, pieces of flare, but it doesn't have any of flare or impressive kills that Metal Royal had.

1:01:16

And one of the issues of this movie,

1:01:20

and this was another thing that made me Ill advised in my excitement to see it,

1:01:25

is the involvement of James Gunn who wrote and produced this movie but didn't

1:01:30

actually direct it. And at the time,

1:01:34

James Gunn was just coming off of being the director of Guardians

1:01:39

of the Galaxy, which to date is the only Marvel movie that I can enjoy.

1:01:47

Yeah. Fair. I can expect that.

1:01:53

So he had that going for him. And on a more personal note for me,

1:01:57

he had also written the script at the time,

1:02:00

recently released greatest video game about

1:02:05

a cheerleader killing zombies with a chainsaw of all time,

1:02:10

lollipop Chainsaw, the remake for which is releasing.

1:02:13

Next week, by the way. So stay tuned for my thoughts on that. Nice.

1:02:21

And so I went into this expecting fun,

1:02:25

comedic horror and

1:02:31

some. Trivia behind this. James Gunn wrote the script for this back in 2007,

1:02:36

and he stepped away from directing it or having anything to do with it because

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it was his personal life issues at the time.

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I think he was going through a divorce or death in the family or something.

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So it was shelved for about a decade, and some studio asked him to revive it.

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And John didn't have time to direct the movie himself because at this point,

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he was one of the Marvel people. He was making more money than God,

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but he did agree to produce it and extensively maintain

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full creative control. There's some debates on how much creative control he actually

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had or more accurately bothered to exercise.

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And he handed director duties to Greg McLean,

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whose most famous movie at the time was a horror movie called Wolf Creek,

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which I'm also is from Australia.

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And I'm tentatively thinking of adding it to my repertoire just to see if

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maybe he did something better than this. I wanted to give him a shot.

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I love Wolf Creek, but it's brutal. It's brutal.

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So that leads into some of the discussion that I read over

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where this movie went wrong, Belco experiment, not Wolf Creek.

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So general consensus on TV tropes,

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which is where I get arguably far too much of my information on fandom reaction

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to things, is that Cleen made the mistake of

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playing the script that Gunn wrote as a horror comedy too straight.

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And I can definitely see the argument for that.

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This is a very sell premise with a movie that takes itself way too seriously and

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isn't competent enough to pull it off, which is a problem we run into with a lot of movies on this podcast.

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But that's different conversation for a different day.

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But that theory has some holes in it for me, because for one thing,

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James Gunn also made Bright Burn. And.

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While I'd be hard pressed to call that movie the greatest movie of all time,

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it's also a.

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Horror movie with a very silly premise that takes itself seriously.

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And it was so much better than this. Yeah. Rayburn is legitimate. I It's scary.

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Yeah. Yeah. It is arguably one of the best takes on the what if Superman,

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but evil trope. I put it up there with Red Sun.

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Which I would love to see adapted incidentally. That'd be awesome.

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But overall. Just my dislike for this movie just mostly comes from the wasted

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potential. The characters aren't developed or interesting enough to work from the Office

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Comedy Angle and the Kills aren't interesting enough

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for the horror angle, a death game taking place in a corporate office building, I expect, well, okay,

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there's one guy that gets murdered with a tape dispenser, but other than that,

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it's mostly just people shooting each other. That's boring.

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Yeah. That doesn't sound so creative when you have an entire office space to work

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with. Yeah. Well, it felt like the office was incidental.

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Yes. It could have been anywhere.

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And my recollection is they start trying to, they tell 'em,

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you have to kill half of the 80 people or something like that.

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So they start looking. At basically, you have to kill two people, or we'll kill four,

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and then you have to kill 20 people, or we'll kill four, or no,

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it's kill 40 people. Or we'll kill, I don't know. But either way,

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there's like 20 people left in the climax of the movie,

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and it turns into a massive battle royale. And if you do that with Dilbert office,

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Spacey tropes, will you please just send an email

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scheduling meetings? That could be emails.

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You could have fun with that while he's beating him with a mouse or something

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like that. But it just didn't,

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it took itself too seriously. And it played it to,

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you felt bad for the characters.

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They weren't walking office or coworker tropes.

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Maybe not the one played by Dr. Cox. He was pretty terrible.

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But that's the other thing too. John c McGinley is so funny.

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Dr. Cox was great. He's Stan is Stan versus Stan Against Evil. And that,

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oh, that deserves so much more than it got season wise.

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That is, especially the first season or two are funny. It's all Get Out.

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And I was expecting so much more from him, and he's doing,

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McGinley is doing the best he can with the script, but

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they just got him and everybody to play it too.

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It felt like it was trying too hard, sort of across the board.

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They had a premise that needed comedy and they did not put comedy in it.

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And I know that I'm normally super predisposed toward comedy and

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me expecting to find comedy and not getting as a problem I have with a bunch of

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stuff, but I feel like this is one more that's warranted.

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Well, that was the entire marketing pitch of the film.

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Hey, hey, this is by the same guy that wrote that silly movie about the raccoon that made

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all the money. Want to see him do office space, but with murder.

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And I still want to see that that's not what we got. So.

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I take it rewatching it did not change your opinion at all.

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No, no. It did not.

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There are some scenes toward the end where they're picking who lives and does

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That actually made me a lot more uncomfortable than when I watched it the first.

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Time, but not really in a good way, just kind of in a,

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well, why am I watching this kind of way?

1:09:14

And it feels like, especially toward the end, that they're trying to make some social commentary.

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And that could have been poignant and entertaining if they had

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just done two or three more drafts.

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But as.

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It stands. This movie just did not work for me. Yeah,

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that's a. Shame. Yeah.

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Well, it makes sense that the director also did Wolf Creek,

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because Wolf Creek is completely

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fastball down the middle. It's brutal.

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It's torture porn. But you know that going into it. No,

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it's not throwing you a curve ball at all. It's that intense.

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This couldn't pick a lane. Yeah.

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No. So yeah, motion picture to.

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Scale. I'm giving it a two because I could see the second half where everything starts

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unraveling, genuinely freaking out.

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Someone who isn't into horror and was expecting

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something a bit sier based on the marketing, but even that's being pretty generous.

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You kind of have to care for the characters to be scared for them.

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And this movie does not give you the opportunity to do that.

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Quality three, nothing wrong with it from a technical standpoint,

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but it's just kind of meh and enjoyment. I'm giving it a two.

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I had a really hard time getting through this. Not to the point that it makes me angry and I try to

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save ones for movies that genuinely make me angry.

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But this goes beyond just not being for me,

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because I honestly have a hard time imagining anybody.

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Liking this. Yeah.

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Fair enough. Yeah.

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I don't remember a lot of people talking positively out of it as we were walking

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out of the theater. Apparently.

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There were people in the theater besides. Us were there.

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Maybe that's why I don't remember anybody talking about it. Well, part of that.

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Is because it came out in the same week as Beauty and the Beast.

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So there were tons of people there to see that bad live action

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remake of Beauty of the Beast with Emma Watson. So there were tons of people there to see that before.

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And we were the only three people seeing the Belco experiment to the

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point that the ticket person gave us a weird look.

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Okay, now is ringing Capel. Yes, he eyeballed us.

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You're going to see that he looked at him. We,

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and there were throngs of Disney people that had just gone through in

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front of us in a whole line. Of, and other guy was an admittedly impressive beast,

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cosplay that probably looked better than the beast in that movie,

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I. Remember this and I had to look it up. I was right.

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This came out around the same time that Mayhem did

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and another office. And so Mayhem was the one that I loved and I kept

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relating mayhem to Belco experiment. And I would see their

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cover art and I'd be like, oh, is this Belco? And it's like, no, that's Mayhem.

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It's very similar premises. And it. Has.

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Steven Win, which is one of my favorite, favorite actors.

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That's the one with the lawyer that has the disease that Rick your

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impulse control or something, right? Yeah. Yeah.

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Because when I was doing my research,

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I was also looking for other movies that did office horror better

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and real debatable on whether I found any that were better.

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But Mayhem is one of the ones that came up, so yeah, I read about it.

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Mayhem is better. Okay. Another one I saw was, let me see if I can find it.

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Oh, is it Office Uprising? Yep. Yep. The zombies in an Office basically.

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Yep. Well, not really zombies, but like the Rage 28 days later type.

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Yeah. Rage, whatever it is. Yeah. I also have this vague recollection of a YouTube video of

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Jigsaw if he were your coworker, like the Doll.

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And I remember that being funny as all Get Out. Yes.

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They did. What if Jigsaw was your roommate? What if Jigsaw was your coworker?

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It was a whole series and it's hilarious.

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Yeah, yeah. No, the coworker one is the one that I remember. Scary.

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All of which were better experiment. Yes.

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Alrighty. Do we want to spin the wheel or are we feeling good about next week?

1:14:19

I already have one for next week. So I do too.

1:14:23

I already have one for next week too, and I still have,

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if I could do trivia again. I've got so much for trivia.

1:14:28

If you guys want me to do it again, but if you would like it,

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that is totally cool too. Sure. I mean, I've got a few that I need to feel like I need to avenge myself.

1:14:37

So Yeah, go ahead. Unless Great, you want to do it?

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I will find some eventually. That will probably not be next week though, so one.

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Y'all go Sweet.

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