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guys actually gave him the nickname of

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Butter Knives because he always

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knifes it across the green. Broke a hundred.

1:38

Now you've got to break 90. We appreciate what you guys do

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for golf. It's been really cool. Thank you. You're

1:42

making it cool. We appreciate it. I was like, hey, Phil, you owe me

1:44

fucking $29.99. And he grabs a hundred. He's like, yeah, I won $90,000 of

1:47

these yesterday. He goes, take a hundred and go fuck yourself. I'm like, I'm

1:49

not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going

1:51

to do that. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do

1:53

that. What? What are you guys

1:55

pitching? Um, this ain't

1:57

a hobby. little

2:00

sports. We are back outside

2:02

right now and near a golf course. So

2:05

I might at times Trent Daddy, I might

2:08

soften my voice so as to not distract

2:11

any crucial tee shots. I'm here in Pinehurst, North Carolina

2:13

for a couple of weeks. I know you guys were

2:15

talking about a pre-show, but we got

2:17

hurricanes, shouts, and mountain strong shirts.

2:19

Everybody who bought something over the last week

2:22

for Asheville and Western North Carolina. But I

2:24

think we're going through a little bit of

2:26

a day after tomorrow type

2:28

thing that people warned us about for

2:31

decades, whether it's climate change or whatever,

2:33

because I woke up and you're looking

2:36

at this, I think it's, is it Milton? Is

2:38

it Hurricane Milton? That's the new one. I

2:41

mean, category five picked up, I

2:43

think 75 miles an hour of wind speed overnight

2:45

and you pull it up and everybody's freaking out

2:47

about another hurricane. Yeah, it's not good news for

2:50

your boy. It's not good news for a lot

2:52

of people. I'm not going to throw

2:54

a pity party for myself, but I just moved

2:57

down to Florida. I'm not currently there. I'm in

2:59

Chicago to film a video, but

3:01

I, I did move down to Florida and I

3:03

have been living there. And the first

3:05

week that I'm going to be living there, Hurricane

3:08

Milton is going to slam

3:11

into the state of Florida. Now I know that it's

3:13

on the Gulf side and it's

3:15

going to hit Tampa and, you know, thoughts

3:18

out to those people like that. I think it's

3:20

growing in strength and it's going to hit them.

3:22

And then it's going to keep going over the

3:24

state of Florida over towards my

3:26

neck of the woods, which is Oceanside and Jupiter.

3:29

So yeah, you know, again, it's, this is not

3:31

about me, but I am the one on this

3:33

podcast and I am currently a Florida

3:36

resident. And my first week

3:38

there, a big, big hurricane is going to hit.

3:40

So I'm kind of with you. I don't, you

3:43

know, I don't track hurricane patterns really. I'm probably

3:45

going to have to start with my relocation, but

3:47

it does seem like there are

3:49

more hurricanes happening right

3:52

now than there usually are. Now I do

3:54

believe it is hurricane season, so it's not

3:56

unprecedented, but I'm

3:58

going to be bombed. if my

4:00

first year in Florida is just the

4:02

year of the hurricane and every single

4:04

week there's a new hurricane coming through.

4:07

So fingers crossed that doesn't happen. Fingers

4:09

crossed for everybody on the Gulf

4:11

side of Florida. And yeah, let's just get through these

4:13

hurricanes and enjoy that beautiful weather that I've read so

4:15

much about and why I moved down there. Well,

4:17

you are the one with the platform, Trent, so you can,

4:20

everyone listening doesn't really have a choice. If you're going to

4:22

talk about hurricanes and how it's going to affect you, these

4:25

people that are listening to show are just simply going

4:27

to have to listen to you talk about it. So

4:29

I don't really understand hurricanes

4:32

that much and that you and I kind of

4:34

came from tornado alley. So we've been through

4:36

the experiencing and understanding that tornadoes

4:39

are the real threat. I

4:41

don't know, like hurricanes, man,

4:43

are tough. It feels like they could turn

4:45

at any direction. It feels like they can kind of

4:47

go, the Western

4:49

North Carolina stuff from last week was

4:53

significantly more inland than I was kind of expecting.

4:55

And then now you're watching this next one come

4:57

like you're saying, that's going to slam

4:59

into the Gulf side of Florida. It

5:02

is hurricane season. I think there's even some people

5:04

in the internet

5:06

world that I've noticed have been

5:08

blaming the hurricanes on a certain political party

5:11

that they don't like to be affiliated with.

5:13

So people are trying to come up with

5:15

any understanding for the hurricanes

5:17

right now, but I'm with you. Fingers

5:19

crossed everybody, incredibly, incredibly scary stuff. Some

5:21

of the footage from last week,

5:24

I imagine that's going to come across our desk

5:26

over the next couple of days is

5:28

just shocking stuff. Well, the

5:31

scary thing is when these storms, whether

5:34

it be hurricanes, tornadoes, blizzards,

5:36

hit areas that it normally

5:39

doesn't so that people in those areas aren't prepared for

5:41

them. Now I think that I feel like that was

5:43

part of it, potentially with the Asheville thing.

5:45

I don't know enough about it to speak on

5:47

it really, but like when you're not expecting a

5:49

hurricane to hit, you don't have

5:51

protocols in place or the area isn't

5:53

prepared for that. Like when it snows

5:55

in Texas or it snows in Atlanta,

5:57

they shut down the whole city. because

6:00

they're like, we're not used to having these things,

6:02

so we don't know what to do. I think

6:04

that's where it gets dangerous. Where we are from,

6:07

there are a lot of tornadoes, so there's basements.

6:09

When the tornado sirens go off, you go into

6:11

the basement. There's these things in place that, you

6:14

live in a certain area where you

6:16

know these things could potentially happen. I

6:18

think it gets scary when the storms

6:20

start hitting areas that aren't

6:22

prepared for them and don't expect them

6:24

to happen, and that is when you

6:26

get really catastrophic stuff. I'm an idiot,

6:28

I'm a dumb person. This is a

6:30

golf podcast, but that seems like the

6:33

thing where it's really, really bad when

6:35

these storms hit areas that historically

6:37

have not had them. Yep, and I

6:39

think that's exactly what happened in Asheville

6:41

and just, I think that the, even

6:44

a couple days before it was forecasted,

6:48

it was gonna go in a different direction,

6:50

and like you're saying, when you're not ready

6:52

for it, it is just devastating. So prayers

6:54

up for everybody that's been in the path

6:56

of these hurricanes. I never really been in

6:58

a natural disaster before. You ever been in

7:01

a natural disaster? No, outside

7:03

of just really, really bad storms,

7:06

like even the derecho that hit my

7:09

hometown of Cedar Rapids, Iowa, I was living in

7:11

New York City, but that devastated that area. But

7:13

yeah, I've never really, haven't been

7:15

in a place where like,

7:17

oh, a hurricane slammed into us or a

7:19

tornado ripped through our town completely.

7:22

I've just been through some really, really bad storms,

7:24

but I don't know if you

7:26

can, that technically is a natural disaster, but

7:28

nothing really devastating like we're seeing right now

7:32

with the hurricanes. Hope everybody's safe

7:34

and it is very, very scary stuff.

7:37

And you picked a great time to move to Florida and then

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drive. We

9:19

got to talk about some golf, because like you said, this is a

9:21

golf podcast. We're recording on

9:23

Monday. Sunday was kind of the end of

9:26

the Corn Fairy Tour finals finishing.

9:29

And I always enjoy on a good

9:31

Sunday when you just start firing off

9:33

tweets and whatnot about golf when

9:36

it's basically not the US Open or the

9:38

Masters. People as you know,

9:40

Trent, when you fire off tweets about the

9:42

Bachelor or anything that's not football when football's

9:44

on, people really don't seem to enjoy

9:46

that. They really don't seem to enjoy that you

9:49

just somehow it feels like in their mind,

9:52

stole their entire timeline to talk

9:54

about something golf related. But Sunday,

9:56

Corn Fairy Tour championship. Our

9:59

boy. Alistair who really wasn't on a lot

10:02

of the radar. I mean going in I kind of talked to him

10:04

a little bit but there's a lot of math involved with

10:07

What he needed it kind of felt like he pretty much needed

10:10

to just win just went out right to get in And

10:14

then as things started shaking down It was like certain

10:16

players are not gonna finish inside whatever

10:18

top 10 or 20 They this week that then

10:20

all of a sudden opened up Alistair to have

10:22

a little bit more of a chance So he

10:24

needed to finish What ended

10:26

up being like a two-way tie

10:28

for second or better as everything was moving kind

10:30

of down the stretch of the whole Thing and

10:32

then all sudden it was just like bang.

10:35

He posted that I think four under is what it

10:37

was He's in the clubhouse at eight under and you're

10:39

starting to see these leaders people were playing for their

10:41

careers for their livelihood They've spent their whole life trying

10:43

to get to this point We got golfers on the

10:45

T's from try to be a little bit quieter I

10:47

know but they spent their whole life trying to get

10:49

to this point You could see a Scotty Sheffler I've

10:51

talked about before but Scotty Sheffler has talked about that

10:54

before that the most pressure He's ever

10:56

felt was the last couple holes trying to

10:58

get his PJ tour corn fairy tour Trying

11:00

to go through cue school the whole thing So here

11:02

these guys are out here They're playing for their livelihood

11:05

and you could see people are crumble and hitting bad

11:07

shots You feel bad for them and then it all

11:09

came down to just two pots as everybody's trying to figure

11:11

it out Like a 12 footer

11:13

and an eight footer and it's like if

11:16

one of those just misses if one of

11:18

those just misses It dramatically changes Alistair's life

11:20

and career like forever. This is the dream

11:22

This is what he's been trying to get

11:25

to for his entire life And

11:27

then they just both win in and it's a very weird spot

11:29

where you're like rooting for people To

11:31

miss and we talked about that on this

11:33

show quite a bit But in that instance, obviously

11:35

it's hard not to again these people right here on

11:38

the 13th They're out here playing piners number two. So

11:40

I don't mess their whole day up but But

11:43

man that was like as devastating

11:45

as it gets watching golf yesterday.

11:47

Oh, yeah You mentioned how people

11:49

get upset or you know Angry

11:51

when you're tweeting about something that

11:53

they're not specifically watching I I

11:55

do think if there were we've been we've talked

11:57

about this for years, especially since we got it

12:00

so involved Alistair where if there were a way

12:02

to package and present the

12:04

drama of what happened yesterday,

12:06

the people who are angrily watching football and

12:09

only want people to be watching football would

12:11

be just as glued to this as they

12:13

are football because the dramatics are that high.

12:16

Yeah, it's devastating. I was

12:19

a little busy yesterday, so I wasn't able to follow

12:21

it as closely as I wanted to, but I was

12:23

looking at all the updates and thankfully you were tweeting

12:25

and people were tweeting. I know Danny

12:27

Rapp mentioned it a couple of times, like I

12:30

was on the edge of my seat and then

12:32

to see it go down the way that it

12:34

did is devastating. Now

12:36

what's the silver lining? It's he's

12:38

so close. He's a guy out

12:40

there on the corn fairy tour

12:43

who even put himself in the position

12:45

to potentially earn his card. It's

12:48

a hard thing to hear if you're Alistair

12:50

because if one of those putts

12:52

misses, you're in and your whole life changes. We're

12:56

on this podcast, Hooten and Holleran, and I

12:58

know he's maybe going to join us later

13:00

and we're like popping champagne on this zoom

13:02

call and it's so exciting and

13:04

to just miss it by the amount that he

13:07

did is devastating,

13:10

but I do think the silver lining is

13:12

you're fucking close and I'll probably say this

13:14

to him when he comes on. You

13:16

can't get much closer than that and you're out

13:18

there wearing the Barstool golf stuff and it's so

13:20

awesome and he is helping shed

13:23

light on these stories because then we come on this podcast

13:25

which has a pretty large

13:27

following and we talk about it and people get

13:29

more invested and then next year, all right, now

13:32

more people are watching and who's on the cut

13:34

line and who's in and who's out. Yeah,

13:37

it sucks and I know we were texting a little

13:39

bit about it yesterday. It's just like it couldn't be

13:42

a more devastating end, but there is light

13:44

at the end of the tunnel I think. It's just of

13:46

course we wish it had gone the other way, but

13:49

he's right there. That's kind of my

13:51

whole synopsis of the whole thing. Yeah, I mean

13:53

it's had just an incredible year, right, and just

13:55

for like confidence. We all know in the game

13:58

of golf how much our games can fluctuate. just

14:00

purely based on confidence and now him at his

14:02

level having that confidence to go out there in

14:04

the PGA tour finished second in Myrtle

14:06

Beach and then go out and not even really

14:08

feel like probably for a lot of the year

14:10

that He had

14:12

his best stuff that he was playing us his

14:15

a game couple weeks here and there and still

14:17

be that close to getting Your PGA tour card.

14:19

He's got to take a ton of Confidence

14:21

out of that. He's gonna take a lot of positives

14:23

out of that I will say like so Alice was

14:25

on his way here right now So I was like

14:27

we had this whole I was like dude if he

14:29

gets us PJ tour card and he arrives here We're

14:32

gonna hang for a few days pirates was like this

14:34

is gonna be the craziest week of all time This

14:36

guy's like I mean if you're on the PGA tour

14:38

versus not the PGA tour But

14:40

he basically it becomes like a

14:42

rich famous golfer like instantly if he's just on

14:44

the PGA tour I mean, that's just yeah, you're

14:46

just on the PGA tour. You've done the whole

14:48

thing. You've made it to the NFL It's like

14:50

it's just Imaginably cool and then

14:53

to have it ripped away that badly and they're

14:55

talking about how like a couple of the putts

14:57

didn't even really matter For the player necessarily because

14:59

they weren't gonna be so you're just like well

15:01

then what are we doing here? So it was

15:03

that close I am just like a tell in

15:05

my text to him to house was always so

15:07

positive and even he was like that

15:09

was devastating And so he's taken

15:11

that he is taking the positives and all

15:13

that but he just was like man that

15:15

was devastating Like that really had to hurt.

15:17

Yeah, you get so close you get so

15:20

close and I actually I can't

15:22

wait to hear him talk about it because I Want

15:24

him to walk us through all the emotions of it and he is

15:27

such a positive person that but yeah You know

15:29

with something like that happens You

15:31

do kind of got to take a little bit of grain of salt

15:33

You just got to just be like yeah that I don't want to

15:35

feel this way again is how I would look at it If I

15:37

were him, I'm not a good golfer

15:39

or even close to the PGA tour So I shouldn't really

15:41

speak on it But you know again,

15:44

he's so close the way he just

15:46

just think I don't want to feel that way again The

15:48

way I felt yesterday put it into some

15:50

positive energy and you know, just get your tour card. He's

15:52

gonna get his tour card I'm confident in that just

15:55

get your tour card kid, you know, just go out there and get

15:57

that tour card But yeah, he uh, he is

15:59

gonna join us. We're gonna hear all from him about the whole

16:01

thing, how the whole thing went down. And there

16:04

are some great stories. I mean, even

16:06

Alistair not getting it,

16:08

devastating all that. This Brayden

16:10

Thornberry guy, his little

16:12

sheet here from playing professional

16:14

golf for how long he's played it,

16:16

he... Eight of the nine members

16:18

of the 2017 US Walker

16:21

Cup team have all turned professional, gone

16:23

on to earn their PGA Tour cards

16:26

except for him, Scotty Scheffler and Kyle

16:28

Morikawa each have multiple majors. Thornberry's been

16:30

stuck in the minors. He

16:32

was so far down, I guess it was last

16:34

year because he lost even like his corn fairy tour

16:37

card. And then I was reading through

16:39

like a couple of years ago, he was on the

16:41

challenge tour. So it's like, he

16:43

just has had moments where it was like, you're

16:45

not even gonna, you know, you almost

16:47

gotta hang it up at some point. I'm sure that crosses his

16:49

mind. And then he goes out, wins his

16:51

first win ever as a professional yesterday

16:53

and gets his tour card. So it's

16:55

like, there are unbelievably cool stories out

16:58

there for every Alistair heartbreak that

17:00

there is. And so you're obviously rooting for all

17:02

those people because they're all in the

17:04

same boat. But you're right, it is like, and

17:06

Jake Marsh is on there, Shane Bacon's on there,

17:08

these guys are all part of the coverage trying

17:10

to do the very best that they can, but

17:13

it is tough to package how

17:15

meaningful this is. And you're right,

17:17

I want to scream at people Trent when they're like,

17:19

football's on, you're not kidding. I'm like, these guys

17:21

are all making $15 million a year. What happens weekend

17:23

and week out? I'm sorry. It's not even close to

17:26

how important this is for these six guys that are

17:28

trying to get their tour card right now. So

17:30

you're like trying to screen that at the TV and

17:32

at Twitter a little bit. So

17:34

packaging that properly and

17:37

be able to present how meaningful it is would

17:39

go a long way just because people are so, you

17:41

know, it's hard. It's hard to, I, I

17:43

even really realized he was that close until all of a sudden

17:46

you see he's T2 out of nowhere and

17:48

you're like, Oh shit, does he have a chance to

17:50

use PGA tour card? So it's hard to understand and

17:52

follow. Obviously it's not the NFL, but it is more

17:54

meaningful for a lot of these guys. So it's, um,

17:56

it was cool to watch. It was cool to even

17:58

had a chance. very weird

18:00

feeling, you know, like the

18:02

heartbreak of like Rory, you

18:04

know, when he, when he's lost a couple of these

18:07

majors last two years, buying Hurston, then at the old

18:09

course, we talked a lot about how those were

18:11

like the most devastating golf viewing

18:13

losses that like, I can remember watching

18:15

maybe Tiger and Oh nine when YA

18:17

took him down to the PGA championship.

18:19

But those are like the player misses and doesn't quite

18:21

get it done. This was like

18:23

the players in the clubhouse. He has no control

18:25

over it whatsoever. You just need one of these

18:27

guys, not make birdie. They both make their

18:29

pots for pretty. So it was a very weird place to be

18:32

in. We're going to talk to Al about the whole thing, but

18:34

incredibly proud of that duty. He's the nicest guy in the world.

18:36

He's playing sick golf. Um, and he's going to get

18:38

his PGA tour card. So I'm with you, Trent. I'm

18:40

going to stay positive, take all the positives away from

18:43

it. So I like that. And it's like, you

18:45

know, Rory misses that putt at Pinehurst

18:48

and 10 minutes later he's on a private jet and he's home.

18:50

And that's, that's not making me want to

18:52

watch it less, but we're talking about

18:54

real stakes for these guys trying to get

18:57

their PGA tour card. I listen, I watch

18:59

professional golf. I watch more professional golf than

19:01

I do not professional, but like PGA tour golf

19:03

and corn fairy golf. Like I'm not

19:05

going to act like I'm a hardcore corn

19:07

fairy guy, but I do the stories

19:10

that are happening there. Just, they need to be told.

19:12

And I'm glad that we're telling at least one of

19:14

them. Cause they are in their

19:17

own way, just as interesting as the

19:19

Pinehurst collapse. And that's all we're saying.

19:21

It's just, we love it all, but

19:23

there are stories there that get no coverage at all.

19:25

The story thing was a story for a month and

19:27

it's still the story. It's been the story for 10

19:29

years now, but the corn fairy stuff,

19:32

there are stories there, people on the bubble

19:35

that are fascinating in just such a different way.

19:37

And if you're a sports fan of

19:39

any kind, you would love it. So we just got to figure out a

19:41

way to do it, but we're having an hour on. So we're

19:43

helping in our own little way. And you know,

19:45

I mean, you gotta be a math major too,

19:47

to figure these things out. That's tough. Yeah.

19:50

I was tweeting out like somebody's got to let us know what's

19:52

going on. I saw help people responded like you're supposed to let

19:54

us know. I was like, I have

19:56

no idea how these points work. I don't

19:58

know. know anything I'm trying

20:01

to learn out there. So, so yeah, it

20:03

was it was a wild finish. I'm excited

20:05

to talk to Alistair here from him.

20:07

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20:09

that let's get that tour

20:11

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20:14

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20:20

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It's game time. We

22:09

had some drama on the tour with Bo

22:13

Hosler. You see a bunch of people getting upset about

22:15

some of these temporary

22:18

immovable object rulings that he was trying to get

22:20

out there as he was trying to close out

22:22

the Sanderson Farms. I did not see

22:24

this. He hit his tee shot on the

22:27

72nd hole. He hit it a couple

22:29

feet behind a tree and then he brought the rules

22:31

official over and was like, I

22:33

get a free drop here because I'm trying to

22:35

hit this over those grandstands over there. The

22:37

rules official was like, yeah, I mean,

22:39

that's where you're not getting a drop. Like the grandstands

22:42

are like not, not in the way at all. And

22:44

then he was like, can you please explain the

22:47

rule to me? And was not happy with not

22:49

getting the ruling ended up not getting the ruling

22:51

chipped out, ended up getting up and down for

22:54

par. So he goes into a playoff and

22:56

then ends up hooking it again and tries

22:58

to get another relief

23:01

and actually does this time, but

23:04

ended up still coming up short. But it was, there were a

23:06

lot of people in the rules of golf, kind

23:08

of Twitter and world that

23:10

were not very happy with Mr.

23:12

Bo Hosler yesterday. So they were not on his

23:14

side, you're saying? No, not on his

23:16

side. And essentially, you know, the claim

23:18

is that if you're trying to get a ruling

23:21

that you don't, that's not justified in

23:23

you getting, then you're cheating is

23:25

sort of like the, yeah, the way that

23:27

people come at it from. Whereas I

23:29

do think, yeah, I mean, that's

23:31

clearly the argument. I don't know

23:34

that I would go that far, you know, it's

23:36

always like tough to be like, yeah, people try

23:38

to get favorable readings like when Robert McIntyre, who

23:40

we're going to talk about, because he had some

23:42

choice comments about the 17th hole in St. Andrews.

23:44

But, you know, when he got that like sprinkler

23:46

drop, it's like, well, he's just taking advantage of

23:48

the rule as it's written. He's not out there

23:50

like, sheeding, you know, it is an interesting point,

23:52

though, with grandstands, like

23:54

when you're talking about movable

23:56

and immovable objects, is it

23:59

as the course? is built

24:01

or are the grandsands part

24:04

of the event? I

24:06

believe it's temporary and

24:08

movable obstruction is something that

24:11

they brought in that is part of the event that

24:15

one could be granted a special

24:18

opportunity drop relief, whatever you want to call it,

24:20

because this new thing that we have to do

24:22

to make this golf tournament cool and host people

24:25

so they can sit down and see the golf

24:27

course is now here. I'm

24:29

looking at it. It's in my way. I get

24:31

relief from it. It's sort of the way that I understand it. I

24:34

see. Yeah, no, he's and

24:36

then to try to pull it again on and

24:38

then I guess he got they gave him the

24:40

relief, but no, I didn't see any of that.

24:42

I like Bo Hasler. I we've I don't think

24:44

we've ever had him on the show, but I'm

24:46

always whenever I see Bo Hasler. I'm

24:48

always like I like this guy. So I'm so unfortunate to hear

24:51

that that, you know, Twitter is kind of going after him. But

24:54

what can you do? It's golf Twitter. He's going to go off

24:56

Twitter. Robert McIntyre with

24:58

a he said

25:00

they should blow up the 17th hole and essentially

25:02

said it's just a terrible hole, the road hole.

25:06

And I I

25:09

find it funny because I mean, that's

25:11

sacrilegious to a lot of people, right? Like you

25:13

say anything negative at all about the

25:16

old course, and there's people are going to bury you. They're

25:18

going to stop on your throat. They're going to try to

25:20

ruin you. I don't think it's

25:22

the craziest take in history

25:25

for someone to be like, yeah, dude,

25:27

this really hard part for where I have to

25:29

hit it over a hotel that's out of bounds.

25:31

And then if I hit it at the right

25:33

edge of the green, it hits a road and

25:36

like a stone wall. And then if

25:38

it doesn't hit that, it goes into the hardest bunker on

25:40

planet Earth. Yeah, I don't love that hole. I

25:44

don't think that's the craziest thing for him to

25:46

say. I think if you would,

25:48

if you built that now stateside,

25:51

there would be people who would call it Mickey Mouse.

25:53

They'd be like, what? I'm hitting over this thing. This

25:56

isn't mini golf. What am I doing here? I also think

25:58

it's funny, like I coming from a. guy like

26:00

Robert McIntyre. I

26:02

think he can say that and I feel like

26:04

people hopefully people won't get as mad at him.

26:07

Like if an American said that, like blow up

26:09

the 17th hole. I hate it. Get rid of

26:11

it. People be like, this is, you're

26:13

the worst person in the world. But as a

26:15

Scott, he's just like blow that fucking hole up,

26:17

man. I'm from around here. I don't know that

26:19

golf course is all this shit. We're hitting over

26:21

a building. It's going towards a road. Then it's

26:23

going towards a bunker. Like blow that thing up.

26:26

But yeah, to say that about a

26:28

St. Andrews golf hole, you almost have

26:30

to be a guy in his position because if

26:32

you're a guy from any other place, certainly America,

26:34

and they made those same comments, I think they

26:36

kick you out of the sport of golf. Yeah,

26:38

I mean, yeah, it would be like go eat

26:40

your McDonald's and you know, and like go play

26:42

with your chandeliers and your water fountains and all

26:44

that is what would be your waterfalls

26:47

for us. But no,

26:49

I enjoyed it. He said, I don't think there are

26:51

many worst holes in the world of golf. I think

26:53

it's a terrible hole off the back tee. It doesn't

26:55

need to be monetized to bring excitement. It needs to

26:57

be a hole you're able to hit a golf shot

26:59

into and not one where you just hit it

27:01

onto the green and try to get up and

27:04

down. So he was just having some choice words

27:06

about it. But I, I'm

27:08

with you. It's like, if we all kind of agree that

27:10

golf hole would never be built today. And I think a

27:12

lot of people kind of have said that before. I'm like,

27:14

Oh yeah, you could never get away with building this thing

27:16

today. But the fact that it's so old,

27:19

cool, the whole golf course has been built up

27:21

around it. It's so iconic. So unlike any other

27:23

shot you ever hit, then everyone's like, Oh yeah,

27:26

of course we kind of accept it. So then

27:28

if we all agree with that and we

27:30

kind of all have to agree that it's not

27:32

that crazy for somebody to be like, this whole

27:34

kind of fucking sucks. Like this is, this is,

27:36

this is outrageous out here. So, um,

27:39

so yeah, I enjoyed that. Cause I don't think anybody

27:41

ever really says anything negative about the old court senators.

27:43

And I liked him just being fired up being like,

27:45

fuck this golf hole. Do you have a

27:47

golf hole that you wish you could blow

27:49

up? I know I do. I'll go first.

27:52

And I've said it before I've, I've said

27:54

this to the superintendent. So it's not like a secret.

27:56

I've said it on video. I've said it on podcasts.

27:58

The fifth hole at Rockville link. And it

28:01

has nothing to do with the design. I

28:03

suppose it has more to do with my

28:05

performance on that hole historically It's a hundred

28:07

and ten yard par three This is where

28:10

the bunker incident took place if anybody follows

28:12

the breaking series you can go back and

28:14

watch it We've played at Rockville a ton.

28:17

I love Luke. I love that golf. I love 17 holes

28:19

of that golf course It's it's fantastic Luke

28:22

keeps it in great shape. They treat us

28:24

incredibly out there, but that hole it's

28:26

a par three I think on average

28:29

I make like a nine And it's

28:31

there's huge bunkers on the right

28:33

and the left of the hook of the green

28:35

and then there's water short And for whatever reason

28:37

it doesn't fit my eye and I either hit

28:39

my ball short and it goes in the water

28:41

Or it goes right and it goes

28:43

left and then I'm stuck in the bunker I think I've hit

28:45

I probably played that hole 20 times

28:47

and I think I've hit the green once So if

28:49

I could blow up a golf hole, it would be

28:52

the fifth at Rockville Lynx I

28:54

would blow up the 18th hole at Aran

28:56

Hills. I that golf hole

29:00

is just My nightmare.

29:02

I fucking hate that hole and it's

29:04

beautiful. It's got you know, like

29:06

the Holy Hill in

29:09

the background It's got the plaque

29:11

where JT went three wood three wood and

29:13

made Eagle where his pink pants on Saturday

29:15

at the US Open It's

29:17

got really cool bunkering and man

29:20

I just make a million there every

29:22

single time I play it to the

29:24

point where I've sat down at the

29:26

bar afterwards Lovelyer in Hills folks and

29:28

I've been like what are you

29:31

guys doing with this golf hole? I said

29:33

people come all the way out here. This

29:35

is a nice resort to you know, you

29:37

it's a destination I get to see

29:39

us open course But I said we got to

29:41

leave people with a better taste in their mouth

29:43

after they play that golf hole We can't have

29:45

people coming off that green like I am being

29:47

like what the hell is that? It's like from

29:49

the green D's which are like three tees up

29:51

from the back It's like

29:54

six-third or something and

29:56

it's just I just can't play it to save

29:58

my life and then and I can tell too

30:00

that it's like, it's just the me ish. It's

30:02

other people play it, they play it

30:04

fine. It's really hard. It's really long. But like

30:07

they can play the golf hole. And then it's

30:09

also got train. I don't know if you remember,

30:11

but like, it's also got a bananas green. That's

30:13

almost like a Donald Ross piners. Oh, yeah, type

30:15

green. Like the whole backside of it runs way

30:17

away. And down the fall, the front side of

30:19

it is like this little false front. And I

30:21

just can tell me so many rounds of golf

30:24

and I've been lucky to play at Aaron Hills.

30:26

I've walked up that fairway just steaming mad shout

30:28

out to show just steaming mad being like, fuck,

30:30

we can't play this golf hole to save my

30:32

life. It is one of the more intimidating tee

30:34

boxes that you stand on because you stand there

30:36

and it feels like the green is 900 yards

30:40

away. Like you can't believe that you have

30:42

to get to that green

30:44

and like three or four shots. Do

30:46

you think that's impossible? And it's when

30:49

I long time ago before we

30:52

even started the breaking series, I had a chance to

30:54

break 100 at Aaron Hills. And

30:56

I think I had to make I don't

30:58

even know if the video exists. But I

31:01

had to make let's say I had to make a bogey or

31:03

a double bogey and I shoot 99 at Aaron

31:05

Hills didn't even really come close because I got

31:07

stuck in one of the green side bunkers. But

31:10

I felt like I was a million miles away

31:12

standing in the tee box. It's an intimidating place

31:14

to stand. So while I won't go as far

31:16

as saying I would like to blow that hole

31:18

up, I can certainly understand the logic behind someone

31:20

saying that because it is it's just a really

31:23

fucking hard golf hole. And if you are, we

31:25

are lucky enough that we've gotten to play that

31:27

golf course a couple times. And if you are

31:29

ever lucky enough to play in Hills, stand

31:31

there and marvel at what Justin Thomas was able

31:34

to do on that golf hole because what

31:36

he did should be impossible.

31:39

I every time I play they've got

31:41

the little plaque there were plaque brothers. I

31:43

stand there and I look at what he

31:45

did on that golf hole. And I still

31:47

can't believe it. And it's very much the

31:49

video is available and you can watch it.

31:51

But what he did on that hole is

31:53

nothing short of spectacular. But again, I won't

31:55

say I want to blow that hole up,

31:57

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Pretty tight fraternity of golfers

33:49

that have their own plaque at

33:52

a golf course. True. It's

33:55

me. Well, I mean, I can't name them all. I'm

33:57

sure there's ones that I just I'm not aware of.

46:00

not take it seriously whatsoever. So when someone does

46:02

something quote unquote wrong or that you disagree with,

46:04

view them as a villain who just entered a

46:06

movie that you're watching and now you're like, how

46:08

are they going to act? How are people going

46:11

to react to them? What's that going to be?

46:13

But then once you're done following it, you're like,

46:15

Oh, I, I'm not watching that movie anymore. So

46:17

I don't have an opinion. It's the people who

46:20

get caught up in like, it

46:22

ruins their day when

46:25

something happens that they don't like in the sport

46:27

that they're following and they can't think about anything

46:29

else. And they're talking to their friends about it

46:32

and they're fucking pissed. And it's, it

46:34

doesn't have to be that way. Just view it and

46:36

be like, Oh wow, that's an interesting

46:38

thing that I don't necessarily agree with, but I'm

46:40

not going to make it my life's goal to

46:42

bring that person down or bring the sport down

46:44

because of it. Kind of got choppy for a

46:46

second there. Trent, hold on. I'm going to try

46:48

to move back inside. I think the vacuuming is

46:50

done. Give me two seconds as you visually move

46:52

further away from your house because it looks like

46:54

you're in the woods now. Your

46:56

internet gets worse for sure. That checks

46:59

out. That sounds like it should be.

47:01

We started pre-show you were, you were

47:04

inside the house, crystal clear. I

47:06

could see every piece of

47:08

your face, every little wrinkle, every little part

47:10

of it. And as you have seemingly wandered

47:12

into the woods, you have turned this podcast

47:15

into the Blair Witch Project. And I want

47:17

everyone to know I wasn't trying to wander

47:19

into the woods. Is that there's some vacuuming

47:21

going on in my place and it was

47:24

unbelievable. Wow. Trying to figure that

47:26

out. All right. He's, he's creeping

47:28

back into his own home. Okay.

47:31

It's gotta be clear. I bet it's really clear here in a

47:33

second. It's probably going to take a second

47:35

to catch up, but I, I'm already hearing you more than

47:37

I was before. Wow. Do I sound

47:39

great? You do. You sound great. All

47:41

right. All right. All right. Um, basically,

47:44

and I know I got choppy, I just view everything as

47:46

a movie and don't take anything too seriously. That was my

47:48

advice. I think it's good. That's good.

47:58

M. this

52:00

handwritten couple page thing.

52:03

But it's like, what am I going to

52:05

do? I'm not a Jehovah's Witness kind of

52:07

guy. So I'm just pretty much going to

52:10

disregard that. I felt

52:12

pretty bad about it. I really did. I've

52:14

never gotten a handwritten note like that from

52:16

them. Usually they just knock on your door,

52:18

right? They try to give you some sort

52:20

of pamphlet. Yeah, it was in my mailbox.

52:23

But it was handwritten? Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

52:26

It was like on, no, it was

52:28

like a notebook. Typical notebook paper.

52:30

And it was like two single

52:34

spaced, two pages, every

52:37

line taken up on this thing for

52:39

two pages. Yeah, you might have to

52:41

respond to that guy, unfortunately. Yeah, I didn't

52:43

throw it away yet, but I was like, at some point,

52:45

I'm not going to hold on to these pages forever. So

52:47

I felt a little bit weird about the whole thing. You're

52:49

going to have to look around every

52:51

corner and just sort of before

52:53

you cross the street, when you throw those papers away.

52:57

That feels like, I'm not going to throw this Bible away

52:59

when I'm done. I'm going to put it right back where

53:01

it was so the next person can maybe get something out

53:03

of it. But I'm not, throwing those papers away, that would

53:05

make me nervous. I'm pretty nervous about it. And I, yeah,

53:08

it was one of those, I didn't want to ever

53:10

be in this position. I was very upset that

53:12

these have now graced my, and become

53:14

a part of my life. It's like, I have

53:16

to, at some point, do something with these. So

53:18

I don't know what exactly I'm going to do.

53:20

I guess put them in a drawer forever, right?

53:22

It's probably pretty safe. That's what people do. I,

53:24

you know, people just keep things forever. And then

53:26

when they pass away, somebody else does

53:29

something with it. That's kind of the way things go. That's what

53:31

I would, that's legitimately what I would do with those papers. I

53:33

think we'll take that. Drew, Drew says,

53:36

do you think in 2025, Rory

53:39

McElroy would rather win,

53:41

would rather win a major, not

53:44

the master. So he would either win the PGA, the

53:46

US Open, or the Open, or

53:48

the Ryder Cup on American soil. Which one

53:50

would you rather win? One of those other

53:52

three majors, or the Ryder Cup on American

53:54

soil? The only thing that's making

53:57

me not instantly say major is when he...

54:00

cried at that one Ryder Cup. I forget which

54:02

one it was a couple of years ago. I

54:04

think that was whistling straights. I think that was

54:06

whistling straights. I believe it was because they got

54:08

their doors blown off. And so it's an event,

54:10

the Ryder Cup, that he really, really cares about.

54:12

I remember being stunned when he

54:14

cried. I was like, oh, you

54:17

wouldn't think the Ryder Cup's obviously important,

54:19

but I wouldn't think Rory would

54:21

cry that we beat

54:23

them so badly. Now, even

54:25

with that said, he's got to

54:28

win a major. And that's, I know,

54:30

I don't know for a fact,

54:32

but I know for a fact that that is

54:34

got to be all he thinks about all the

54:36

time. That's what made Pinehurst so devastating. That's what

54:38

made, you know, the 150th at St. Andrews devastating,

54:41

where you're just so close to having people

54:43

stop talking about, Hey man, you haven't won

54:46

a major in a while. Like that is

54:48

just, that has consumed his career. Now, he's

54:50

done a lot of great things. You look

54:52

at the way that he has played certainly

54:54

over the last couple of years. He has

54:56

won a bunch of things and it's been

54:58

under the weird pressure of

55:00

the public scrutiny with what's going on

55:03

with Liv PJ tour. There's a lot

55:05

of guys who just would completely fumble

55:07

and wouldn't have won any tournament during

55:09

that time. He has almost elevated his

55:11

game while being in an even brighter

55:14

spotlight, but I know that he

55:16

wants a major. So as important as the

55:18

Ryder Cup is as fucking unbelievable as it

55:20

would be for them to upset the American

55:22

team at Bethpage black. I know

55:25

he wants a major more than anything. I think

55:27

he might say Ryder Cup. I really do. I

55:30

really do. I think he might say Ryder Cup.

55:32

I just, I think that guy has

55:34

started to live or

55:38

the part of golf that's, that's at least

55:40

a little less commercialized. Like he said after

55:42

the, he said after the Olympics, you know,

55:44

that he's like the two best sports in

55:46

our event, we don't play for

55:48

any money. And he's talking Olympics. He's talking Ryder

55:50

Cup. And I just think he started to get

55:53

into that phase of his life where these

55:56

types of this

55:58

type of event, the Ryder Cup. He

56:00

is almost everything to him. Now,

56:02

I understand the master's certain that he would

56:04

be career grand slam. He'd be like the

56:06

sixth guy in the history of the game

56:08

to do that. I don't think there's anything

56:10

that would really stop him from wanting that

56:13

next. But if he could just

56:15

pile on one of the other majors or win at

56:17

Beth play Beth Page on

56:19

US soil, I think he says Ryder Cup.

56:21

I really do. Dude, I

56:24

I so strongly disagree with you

56:26

that I think he

56:28

would prefer to peel off a PGA

56:30

championship as opposed to win the 2025 Ryder

56:33

Cup. I really do.

56:35

I don't think so. I really don't think you would if

56:38

he had never won. Like, that's why

56:40

obviously the Masters, the ones we're doing. But we're

56:43

thinking of like a Lee Westwood or

56:46

somebody, obviously, like he would say major,

56:48

major. He's never gotten a major. Yeah,

56:50

changes his whole career. He

56:52

finally could get over the hump. He did. I mean, no, he's old.

56:54

Now it's not going to happen. But the Rory

56:56

thing, like he's already won, you know, a bunch of

56:59

majors. He's got four minutes. Like, I think he would

57:01

be Ryder Cup. I really do. I think he loves

57:03

that thing. I think he loves that team event so

57:05

much. I think it means the world to him. I

57:07

think he loves being a part of that. I think that he's

57:09

really in the last, you know, I think

57:12

that that was like straight one. I got

57:14

pissed him off like he was he was

57:16

obviously emotional. He was crying. But I also

57:18

think he was like, this event is

57:21

so badass. It piss him off that he didn't

57:23

play well. I think pisses him off when like

57:26

the golf riders and whatnot will write off

57:28

team Europe over and over again. And they

57:30

come out and obviously dominate on

57:32

whatever they play in European soil. So I think

57:34

I honestly, I just think he would say Ryder.

57:36

I can't believe I'm saying that. But I think

57:38

yeah, the only thing that would

57:40

change my answer, and it's not the reality we

57:42

live in. So my answer is not going to change is

57:44

if he had never been on a winning Ryder Cup team.

57:47

If they were, if we were living in a world where it was

57:49

like he hadn't won a major

57:51

in 10 years, and he also, for whatever

57:53

reason, the USA has been dominating like they've

57:55

been dominating the President's Cup in the Ryder

57:57

Cup where it's like, Europe

58:00

just can't get it done and the

58:02

the star of the European of this

58:04

European generation in Rory McIlroy Has

58:07

not won a Ryder Cup then I think I

58:10

might say Ryder Cup because it is really

58:12

important and the Comradery and you made a

58:14

good point with the like commercialized side of

58:16

it where it does seem like he really

58:18

enjoys playing on the Ryder Cup Well as

58:20

opposed to like winning a major that's work

58:22

trying to win a major is fucking Right

58:25

it is it is but since they've

58:27

won I mean 2018 They want like they

58:29

were not on US soil, but having won a Ryder

58:31

Cup I he knows that that feels like he

58:33

he just it's been so long since he's won a

58:35

major I feel like he might not remember what that

58:38

feels like he did he won the He

58:40

won that one at Medina when they won on

58:42

foreign soil and they came right? So

58:45

like he's done that before when Tiger got stranded

58:47

out in the fairway with no no chance to

58:49

get the boys over the hump So he has

58:51

had all those but I don't know what if

58:53

you said to Keegan Bradley You could

58:55

win the Masters next year or you can

58:57

captain the US to a winning Ryder Cup

58:59

team next year what do you think he

59:02

says that is interesting because I

59:06

Think guy grew him, you know, he was

59:08

used to sneak on to Bethpage He

59:10

got damn romantic talking to us about

59:12

it on this very show Being

59:15

from that area spending so much time in

59:17

that area college and the whole deal Now

59:20

he gets to come back as the captain after the

59:22

whole Netflix thing. I Think

59:24

it's the Ryder Cup and I think it's it's

59:26

similar to what? Stricker

59:29

said after whistling where he was like, this is

59:31

my major now I know Keegan's got one but

59:33

now at this phase in Keegan's career I think

59:37

there's nothing more important to him

59:39

than a Ryder Cup Even honestly just being

59:42

on one would have been the most important

59:44

thing to him But being the captain and

59:46

winning one I don't think you

59:48

could put anything in front of Keegan Bradley right now

59:51

That is would be more important in his life than that.

59:53

I really don't I don't think you could either I

59:55

think that's all he cares about he was so fired up

59:57

talking about it on our show. Oh I

1:00:00

think he would, yeah, I think you're right. I think he would have

1:00:02

to say Ryder cup, um, which

1:00:04

is, think about cool. That is for the rider cup.

1:00:07

I don't feel like talking about rider cups always been

1:00:09

a big deal, but I really feel like in the

1:00:11

last three or four of them, it's

1:00:14

become that different

1:00:16

level where you could

1:00:18

even entertain that guys might say, I

1:00:21

really would rather just win a rider cup than

1:00:24

almost anything else in the world of golf. Whereas

1:00:26

before, I don't know. It just always kind of

1:00:28

felt like there was a good amount of individuals

1:00:31

involved. There's still, you get the occasional where

1:00:33

it's like, I mean, now they

1:00:35

don't say that anymore because they're so dominant, but

1:00:37

like, it was like our can't lay in Xander, or

1:00:39

even their chance that we're not even going to play

1:00:42

because the money break down. And obviously he's turned into

1:00:44

a hatless Pat and the whole deal.

1:00:46

So it's been, um, it's

1:00:48

been great, but I always do. I just

1:00:51

feel like it's gotten more and more and more

1:00:53

meaningful for them. I think you're right. I

1:00:56

don't, I don't know what necessarily the difference is. Maybe it's that

1:00:58

the guys who are on the team,

1:01:00

I feel like guys are winning major

1:01:02

young now, like Collins won a couple

1:01:04

already. Like that generation is sort of

1:01:06

getting them, getting the majors out

1:01:08

of the way. And then the rider cup

1:01:11

is like, all right, I've got these trophies,

1:01:13

these individual trophies. And now the

1:01:15

rider cup in this team sport, I feel like

1:01:17

that's the thing that is going to complete the

1:01:20

way that I feel as a golfer. I don't

1:01:22

know if that's the reason, but yeah, it does

1:01:24

feel like the rider cup is it's always been

1:01:26

important. Very, very important. But it feels like now

1:01:28

when it rolls around, it's like, there are guys

1:01:31

who would be like, I would rather win this

1:01:33

than the upcoming PJ

1:01:36

championship or us open or masters is

1:01:38

always going to be like, I

1:01:40

mean, I guess you did just give it in the Keegan

1:01:42

example, but the masters, I feel like is always going to

1:01:44

be a little elevated and people are going to want one

1:01:46

of those regardless. But outside of that, the rider cup seems

1:01:48

to have gained an importance that

1:01:50

it didn't have in the past. Yeah. And maybe

1:01:53

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1:03:26

Hey, Al. How are you? I'm doing great.

1:03:28

How are you? Where are you? Well,

1:03:31

I got horses in the background. I'm in

1:03:33

Kentucky. Kentucky? Louisville, Kentucky.

1:03:36

Louisville. Louisville, Kentucky. I'm

1:03:38

never going to be able to say that

1:03:40

properly. Louisville, Kentucky. Trent,

1:03:42

you made the point earlier where like Rory

1:03:45

and Devastation FTS open, he 10

1:03:47

minutes later jumps on his private jet and

1:03:49

just flies home. Alistair hops in a rental

1:03:51

car and drives across the country. Got to

1:03:53

go through Louisville and everywhere else to try

1:03:56

to get to North Carolina. Yeah. I slept

1:03:58

in this morning and kind took

1:04:00

my time, got over to Louisville, and now

1:04:02

I'm in my hotel and fly out tomorrow

1:04:04

morning to you, Riggs. Riggs P I

1:04:28

mean, that was, yeah, it was wild. I just

1:04:30

really want to hear what that was like from your advantage point.

1:04:33

I mean, even going just starting on the back nine,

1:04:35

I knew I still had a chance. Tried

1:04:39

to just give myself looks every single hole,

1:04:41

which I really did. I had

1:04:45

great looks for all nine holes on the

1:04:47

back nine, but I just couldn't really

1:04:49

get the putz to drop. I hit the

1:04:51

par five, 14, and two and had a great

1:04:53

look at Eagle and just barely missed it, left it short,

1:04:55

right in the arc. And

1:04:58

we're standing in the middle of the fairway on 18. Brando's

1:05:01

like, you think it's five wood

1:05:03

or three wood? And I was like, to

1:05:05

be honest, Brando, I think I need to make it. The only way I

1:05:07

can make it is if I fly it in a hole with three wood,

1:05:09

I can't really try and gas a five

1:05:12

wood if I miss hit it, I'm shortening the

1:05:14

rough. So we tried hitting a really

1:05:16

high three wood and put it on the green. I

1:05:18

hit a great shot. I mean, under

1:05:20

the pressure and all that was riding on it.

1:05:23

And then got up to the green and saw that

1:05:26

the leader was at nine. So when

1:05:29

I was hitting my second shot, or at least when I was

1:05:31

on the tee on 18, I thought the

1:05:33

leader was at 10. So knowing that I had

1:05:36

a putt to tie the lead at the time, I

1:05:38

gave it a great run. It went slid by the

1:05:40

right edge and had four feet coming back. I'm glad

1:05:43

I made it to give myself a chance. And

1:05:47

then like you said, the whole hour after that,

1:05:49

I'm just watching carnage.

1:05:52

I mean, from so many people making mistakes. I mean,

1:05:54

the golf course is hard. If you get it offline,

1:05:56

you get it in the wrong spots, you're bound

1:05:59

to make some boaters. And I didn't really

1:06:01

expect all those guys in

1:06:03

the final group to kind of explode like

1:06:05

that at one point. And

1:06:08

yeah, I'm sitting there with my family, my

1:06:10

mom, my dad, my very good friend, Mos.

1:06:14

And we're just sitting in the hospitality room

1:06:16

watching it all happen on TV. And we're

1:06:19

like, well, now we just need

1:06:21

other people to miss putts, but we don't

1:06:23

ever, like you tweeted yesterday, we

1:06:25

don't ever wish poorly

1:06:28

of... Maybe a poor play from other people,

1:06:30

but at the time it's like, wow,

1:06:33

I'd really like them to miss a putt here. Just

1:06:36

give myself a PGA Tour card. But

1:06:41

I wish it didn't come down to that. I wish I

1:06:43

would have made some more putts throughout

1:06:45

the week. It just sucks that

1:06:47

it came down to that and I'm

1:06:49

happy for those guys that made their putts

1:06:51

and I'm happy for Noah Goodwin. He's a

1:06:54

good buddy of mine. So congratulations to him

1:06:56

getting that 30 spot. It is

1:06:58

such an interesting dynamic in that, like

1:07:00

you said, you don't root against

1:07:02

people is in this game, but you wouldn't be

1:07:04

a human being if it's not like your whole

1:07:06

life and everything you work towards is like, this

1:07:09

guy's gonna play on the PGA Tour, let's go.

1:07:11

You just need somebody to miss a putt. Hard

1:07:13

not to just be rooting for that outcome,

1:07:16

obviously in that spot. How

1:07:19

easy is it and how aware are you throughout

1:07:22

the day, both while you're playing

1:07:24

and afterwards to know exactly

1:07:26

where you sit? Because I feel like

1:07:28

it's not really that easy for anybody.

1:07:31

One person who's maybe

1:07:33

close to you, who's several spots ahead of you, makes

1:07:35

a double, you don't even realize happens, all of a

1:07:37

sudden it can vault you into a spot where you

1:07:39

didn't know you had a chance to finish there. How

1:07:41

hard is it to pay attention to all that while

1:07:44

you're also trying to fly through it into

1:07:47

the hole on the last tournament? I

1:07:51

really have no idea how to do

1:07:53

all the math when I'm out there. I'm just trying to

1:07:55

win the golf tournament. So knowing in

1:07:57

the fairway. on

1:08:00

18, like I told my caddie Brando, I

1:08:02

was like, I think I have to make this. In

1:08:04

order to go to the PGA Tour, I think I have to make this.

1:08:06

So we're going to get into the hole, we're

1:08:08

going to give ourselves a chance, and

1:08:10

we're going to try and fly in the hole. And like

1:08:13

I said, wind into off the left

1:08:15

from, I think it was 277 hole. I

1:08:17

mean, I crushed the

1:08:19

three wood, nice high, a little fade. I thought it

1:08:22

was really good. It just flew a little long. I

1:08:24

had some adrenaline, obviously. I smoked that three

1:08:26

wood. It's like, if you make that, it's

1:08:28

like, oh, we should just do that every

1:08:30

time. We want to put

1:08:32

in the hole every time. This is the easiest sport

1:08:35

in the world. Yeah. Yeah, no kidding. Do you, we

1:08:37

talked, one of the, when we talked about at the

1:08:39

beginning of the show, obviously we talked

1:08:41

about how it's, you feel powerless that last hour.

1:08:43

You wish you had made a couple more putts.

1:08:46

It's not the outcome you wanted, but what are

1:08:48

the positives that you're taking away from this? Like,

1:08:50

are there any, have you thought about that? I

1:08:52

know this just happened less than 24 hours ago,

1:08:54

so you might not have had time to process

1:08:56

all of it, but like, what

1:08:59

are your main takeaways from what happened yesterday?

1:09:01

You know, I had a little bit of

1:09:03

time of reflection, especially the drive from French

1:09:05

Lick to Louisville and I got

1:09:08

to be proud of the way I fought. I

1:09:10

mean, I knew coming into the week

1:09:12

I needed at

1:09:14

worst a second place finish. And

1:09:17

unfortunately I finished T to one

1:09:20

too many ways. But like

1:09:23

second place at a tour championship is

1:09:25

also just to be there is awesome.

1:09:27

Give myself a chance. Like

1:09:30

Riggs texted me last night and my parents

1:09:32

were there with me telling me, last

1:09:35

year at this time, how would

1:09:38

you like to say that you had a great year,

1:09:40

you were at the tour championship and you had a

1:09:42

chance to get your tour card? Yeah,

1:09:44

that was very positive. Obviously,

1:09:47

I want to be on the PGA tour as soon

1:09:49

as possible, but I got to

1:09:51

give myself a little bit of grace

1:09:53

and I've improved every single year. And

1:09:55

I truly believe it's just a matter

1:09:57

of time. I think that's the right

1:09:59

mindset. I think it's very times

1:10:02

where it's easier to have that mindset, you know,

1:10:04

than other times and I could imagine, you know,

1:10:06

I even said on this show with Trent earlier,

1:10:08

I was like, Al always has

1:10:10

a very positive attitude. And even after it comes

1:10:12

up short or at Myrtle Beach was like, you

1:10:14

finished second, but like first would have

1:10:16

been just a little better in these events. I was like, Al's

1:10:18

always positive. I was like, even you last night, I could tell

1:10:21

just the way your text back is like, yeah,

1:10:23

this was devastating. And I think that that's so

1:10:26

cool to even have been that

1:10:29

close and to understand

1:10:31

that you're kind of a big event kind of

1:10:34

guy. It's like if you go like, look

1:10:36

at your finishes, it's hilarious that

1:10:38

in the hardest, biggest events you

1:10:40

play your best golf. It's like

1:10:42

you get one spot says

1:10:44

is empty into a PGA tour event all

1:10:46

year. You finish second, you get to the

1:10:48

tour championship for corn fairy tour, you finish

1:10:50

second. It's like, that's really gotta

1:10:53

be a big confidence booster for you knowing

1:10:55

that what makes it hard for most people

1:10:57

that play this game is like, man, when

1:10:59

the pressure gets the highest

1:11:02

to perform the way that you know, you

1:11:04

can perform in those situations. I

1:11:07

would say you do a damn good job of it. It's

1:11:10

impressive. Yeah, I don't know. I think back

1:11:12

to hockey, like you get those, those

1:11:15

big games and you kind of just step up

1:11:17

just a little bit more. And

1:11:19

I guess that's what leads

1:11:21

into a little bit better play in

1:11:24

the better or in the tougher scenarios,

1:11:26

I guess. Yeah,

1:11:29

it's a good quality have, I guess. Sure

1:11:32

is. So you got

1:11:34

a couple things now we could do our next big

1:11:37

game hunting that we're doing is going to be corn

1:11:39

fairy tour. Well, I mean, we're trying to Monday talks

1:11:41

to people about kind of your fall here because I

1:11:43

know you're trying to get into some events here and

1:11:45

there. There is corn fairy tour final stage,

1:11:47

which I didn't even think of what you're talking about the

1:11:49

other week where I was like, Oh yeah, you've

1:11:51

got the same status for next year. And

1:11:53

you're like, well, yeah, but if I finished top five and final stage, I get

1:11:56

my PGA tour card. I was like, Oh

1:11:58

shit. I totally forgot about that. for

1:12:00

you kind of still going forward here. Yeah,

1:12:02

so I actually talked to Brad Magee,

1:12:05

who's like our player relations. He takes care of

1:12:07

us and lets us know all the

1:12:09

ins and outs of what's going on. Because

1:12:12

of my finish at Myrtle, I

1:12:15

should start doing the

1:12:17

Mondays very quickly. And if

1:12:19

I can somehow get a sponsor exemption into some

1:12:21

of the fall events that are going on right

1:12:23

now, it would be huge. Because

1:12:26

I think I only need like 230, 250, 250 points

1:12:31

to crack that 125 on the PGA Tour. So

1:12:35

that's another avenue that I can get into, get

1:12:38

my card. So I'll

1:12:40

talk to my agent when I get off the phone

1:12:42

with you guys and start getting on that. And

1:12:45

then if that doesn't work out, I'll

1:12:48

do some of the Mondays to try

1:12:50

and get myself into those events and give myself

1:12:52

the opportunity. Otherwise, it's just get ready for Q

1:12:54

School and try and win that thing. With

1:12:58

football season in full swing, that's

1:13:02

true it is. I

1:13:05

think this will be the perfect time to talk

1:13:07

about the MVP of golf carts, EZ Go vehicles.

1:13:09

I wouldn't want a golf cart that's benched at

1:13:12

halftime. And that's exactly what you're going to

1:13:14

get with any brand outside of EZ Go.

1:13:16

Look, I'm here. I love North Carolina. I

1:13:18

love spending a few weeks here having some

1:13:20

friends in town occasionally, just driving around going

1:13:22

to get a iced coffee in the morning

1:13:24

and go grab a beer at night. And

1:13:26

I take my golf cart everywhere, Trent. I

1:13:28

take it all over the place. I take

1:13:30

the EZ Go. It looks great. It

1:13:32

is great. It's fast. It's cool. And it's

1:13:34

just better being in a golf cart than

1:13:36

not being in a golf cart. Dude, so

1:13:38

I moved down to Florida and we talked

1:13:40

about this, I think last podcast or two

1:13:42

podcasts ago. I was like, I

1:13:45

want to get involved with a golf cart in

1:13:47

my life. I want to get an EZ Go.

1:13:49

And as I'm hanging around in my new neighborhood,

1:13:51

I'm seeing golf carts whipping around. So

1:13:53

I have been on the EZ Go website and

1:13:55

I'm just looking around. And it is so fun.

1:13:57

I actually saw you posted yours today. That

1:14:00

reminded me, I'm going to go on the EZGO website and scroll

1:14:02

around. I'm definitely getting one. I don't know which one I'm going

1:14:04

to get yet, but the excitement you hear

1:14:06

in my voice is a guy who's just scrolling,

1:14:08

looking at awesome easy go carts. It's go on

1:14:11

the website, check them out. They've got all different

1:14:13

kinds, all different sizes. I'm going to find the

1:14:15

perfect one for me. The perfect one for you

1:14:17

is definitely in there. I'm very

1:14:19

excited about this. Just going over to

1:14:21

your friend's house and your golf cart

1:14:23

and your EZGO is fantastic, just makes

1:14:25

it that much more fun. It's nice.

1:14:27

You're outside feeling the wind. Um,

1:14:30

and we'd love to hook one

1:14:32

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1:14:34

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1:14:36

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1:14:48

new easy go express S4. What's

1:14:56

this guy going to shoot a tobacco road,

1:14:59

Trent? I gotta, I'm trying to figure out

1:15:01

we're playing Friday and I played tobacco road

1:15:03

with a bunch of people, but not

1:15:06

really somebody who, I mean, if

1:15:09

you really use these slopes and hit

1:15:11

it, like you could shoot nothing at

1:15:13

tobacco road. I'm very interested to see how you

1:15:15

play this place. I think he's

1:15:17

going to tear that place apart. I

1:15:19

would like to tear every course apart. True.

1:15:23

That's true. And after playing

1:15:25

French lick that, I mean, everything's

1:15:27

got to feel a little easier. That place

1:15:29

was a beast. That was a beast.

1:15:31

I mean, I, I had to take, I had to take

1:15:34

the mini driver out of play this week and put a

1:15:36

three wood in because I couldn't hit

1:15:38

the mini driver off the deck high enough because

1:15:40

almost it was like three out of the

1:15:43

four part fives. The second shot was

1:15:45

over two 60 and uphill to

1:15:47

get to the green. That's

1:15:50

the other thing people. And I, I preach

1:15:52

this every time I can. And I even,

1:15:55

I don't know the extent of it, but

1:15:57

the way the golf you guys are playing

1:15:59

is fucking impossible. Like the setups

1:16:01

you guys play, the courses

1:16:03

you guys play, and

1:16:05

to hear that is just a

1:16:07

peak, a little peak into just

1:16:10

how hard and just how well you played

1:16:12

and how well all these other guys played

1:16:15

to shoot those numbers. Like, you

1:16:17

know, there's such a gulf. There's

1:16:19

such a chasm between the gulf that I

1:16:21

play and the gulf that Riggs plays and

1:16:24

the gulf that you guys play. Like, I

1:16:26

will always preach, I want people to understand just

1:16:29

how fucking hard it is and

1:16:31

how hard you guys work and the skill level that

1:16:33

you guys are at, that you're just trying to get

1:16:35

your card and you're trying to get up there with

1:16:37

the big boys. Like that, it

1:16:39

blows my mind every time. And you saying that about

1:16:42

taking the mini driver out and you got to put

1:16:44

a three wood in. It's just the

1:16:46

stunning, the level that you guys play

1:16:48

consistently, it's fucking insane. Yeah, I mean,

1:16:50

the setup this week was insane. If

1:16:53

it didn't get the excess of the hurricane,

1:16:55

just the amount of rain that it got

1:16:58

last week before we got

1:17:00

there, it probably wouldn't have played

1:17:02

as long, but it's still a beast. It's

1:17:05

one of Pete Dye's craziest layouts.

1:17:09

And it's, we didn't play the tips, but

1:17:11

they could tip it out at 8,100. Yeah,

1:17:15

it's insane. That light just

1:17:17

turned on beside me, that was kind of weird. What

1:17:20

turned on? The light, the lamp

1:17:22

that's right beside me just turned on. Oh,

1:17:24

the ghost in there? Trent's using a Bible

1:17:26

to prop up his computer. So maybe he

1:17:28

gets some weird stuff going. Yeah, it was

1:17:30

just like right there. Yeah,

1:17:35

you don't see nine under, nine, you know,

1:17:37

you see 25 under leads these things or

1:17:39

wins these things, I feel like on the

1:17:41

corn ferrets are all time. So had to

1:17:43

be playing impossibly hard. How

1:17:45

was our guy Brando out there? Was he

1:17:47

just had you locked in and doing

1:17:50

his thing? Yeah, I mean,

1:17:52

he's awesome. Especially the final

1:17:54

round, we had a little bit of wind

1:17:57

and like I told you in Myrtle.

1:17:59

his math with the wind, he's got

1:18:01

it down to a mile an hour

1:18:03

and we were pin high or just

1:18:06

within two yards every

1:18:08

single time. He makes

1:18:10

it so easy and it's so simple to trust and

1:18:12

it's like, all right, this is the golf shot, you

1:18:14

got to hit. Okay, now

1:18:17

just do it. It's a good team. That's a

1:18:19

good team. All right, Aleister. Wow.

1:18:22

What a day. What a day, watch. And

1:18:24

that was, I mean, you

1:18:27

gave it a great run. It's unimaginable

1:18:29

to think about throughout the entire year,

1:18:31

the thousands and thousands of

1:18:34

golf shots that you hit.

1:18:36

And it comes down to two different putts

1:18:39

that if one guy just misses, you're in

1:18:41

30th or 29th instead

1:18:43

of 32nd, it's insane to think

1:18:45

that I think you played 22 events in the

1:18:47

corn fairy tour this year. And for it to

1:18:49

come down to that is like Trent

1:18:51

was saying earlier, I don't know how you're

1:18:53

not that nervous

1:18:56

over every shot throughout the

1:18:58

entire year, being like, man, we could get to that

1:19:00

point in October again. It's like, I need this butt

1:19:02

to go in. It's just insane

1:19:04

that you got to play that well at

1:19:06

that level, that consistently through the entire year.

1:19:08

And you can still come up like a

1:19:10

fraction of a point short. It's just a

1:19:13

stressful out there, man. I don't know how you guys do it. Yeah.

1:19:16

I mean, there's times throughout the year

1:19:18

that maybe you want to hit the

1:19:20

hero shot and take on something that

1:19:23

maybe you shouldn't quite take on. I

1:19:26

don't know. I think my course management has matured

1:19:30

for sure. And I end up just trying to

1:19:33

eliminate the big numbers if I ever put myself

1:19:35

in trouble. But then you think

1:19:37

back and it's like, man, if I would have

1:19:39

just taken that one chance and it worked out,

1:19:41

maybe I wouldn't be in this situation. But you

1:19:43

can't go with all these what ifs. I mean,

1:19:45

I'm just very thankful that I had the opportunity

1:19:48

and I gave it my all. And

1:19:51

now it's onto the next

1:19:53

step and hopefully I can get some sponsor

1:19:55

exemptions or a Monday into a

1:19:58

couple and try and get enough. points

1:20:00

to sneak in the 125 or get ready

1:20:02

for Q school and go kill it at

1:20:04

Dyes Valley and Sawgrass Country Club. I like

1:20:07

you keep mentioning these sponsors exemptions. Let's get

1:20:09

some people listening out there. Let's

1:20:11

see, sponsor exemptions. Hello. If you're

1:20:13

listening, let's get out there. That would be awesome. Let's

1:20:15

play as many of these things as we can. Yeah.

1:20:19

I mean, we got Vegas, Cabo,

1:20:22

Bermuda, and the RSM in

1:20:24

Georgia. So four

1:20:26

opportunities. And

1:20:29

we'll see what happens. I love it. I

1:20:31

love it. Well, great year. Fantastic work out

1:20:33

there. Now you got to get your ass to pinehurst. We

1:20:36

got some golf. Yeah. A little

1:20:38

relaxing and hang out with the boys. It's probably

1:20:40

what I need after such a stressful year. Hell

1:20:42

yeah. We can make that happen. A little Lisi

1:20:44

Italian. You're going to love that. I'm

1:20:46

excited. All right, Alistair. Good work.

1:20:49

Way to battle out there. Safe travels. And

1:20:52

thanks, guys. I'll see you very soon. Thanks,

1:20:54

Reggie. Thanks, Tret.