This week, our podcast goes location at Detroit Denim to talk starting a business with founder Eric Yelsma to discuss what it's like doing business in Detroit.

"I could not have gone to Chicago. I could not have gone to New York or anywhere else without a huge checkbook and without jumping through a lot of hoops," Yelsma says.

"Make a jacket, make a shirt, make a t-shirt, you know. Make underwear. Do something."