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Due to the graphic nature of this
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murder case listener discretion is
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advised. This episode includes
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dramatizations and discussions of
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murder and assault that some people may
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find offensive. We advise extreme
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caution for children under thirteen.
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At the end of nineteen sixty nine,
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the so called summer of love had
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just come to a close in horrendous fashion.
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The aura of peace and freedom was shattered
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by the brutal rampage of Charles Manson
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and his family. Los Angeles
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was on edge. Who knew what
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horrors could come next? White
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wing dove, seven
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fifteen AM. Mohan
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and Beaumont.
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Whoa. Slow down. There's people on the road.
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That could have been really bad. These
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trees are tough.
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Oh my god. Lady, are you
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okay? Are you climbing in
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that tree? Oh my god.
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You've been brutalized. In
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Los Angeles, on November sixteenth
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nineteen sixty nine, A bird
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watcher found the body of a young
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woman entangled in the trees and
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brush off of the side of Mohal
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and Drive. It was becoming
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more and more common for murdered young
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women to be found in LA. However,
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a key detail makes this case stand
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out from the rest The victim
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had no identifying markers
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at all. No wallet, no
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ID, nothing. The mystery
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of this young woman, referred to as
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Jane Doe, number fifty nine, would
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stretch out for decades. And
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become one of the most infamous cold
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cases in the world. This
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is unsolved murders, true crime
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stories, a podcast original. I'm your
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host, Carter Roy. And I'm your host,
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Wendy McKenzie. Every Tuesday,
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we dive into the world of a real unsolved
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murder and try to solve the case.
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This is our episode on Jane Doe,
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number fifty nine, the victim of
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a particularly bloody murder from
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nineteen sixty nine. You can
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Jane Doe, number fifty nine's murder,
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was immediately a hot topic for
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the LAPD. Just three
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months earlier in August nineteen
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sixty nine, victims of an
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attack carried out by the Manson family
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had been discovered only six miles
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away. Among the victims was
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actress Sharon Tate. Most
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of the Manson victims had a severe
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number of stab wounds and
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the investigation indicated that Jane
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Doe number fifty nine had suffered
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a similar fate. She'd
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been stabbed over one hundred and
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fifty times Based on
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the cuts, the murder weapon was
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most likely an ordinary pen
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knife. Naturally, The
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investigators had their suspicions that
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these murders were connected.
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Don't say it. Don't even think about saying
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it. It fits their MO. Pretty
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young girl, looks like a crime of
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passion, just down the road
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from don't say it. There's no
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way, man. He
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and his freaks are in jail. I'll call
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in right now and make sure he hasn't moved.
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Not all of them. He could be slipping
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messages out or maybe shut up
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Let's go off evidence. That thing
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we're paid to find and think about, go
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freak out about what the papers say on your own
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time. Alright. But
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I bet it's him. The
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evidence the investigators turned up
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was slim. Beyond her clothes,
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Chengdu fifty nine wasn't carrying
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anything on her at all. A
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week later, on November twenty
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first, A pair of glasses belonging
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to someone nearsighted was found
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fifty yards away from the scene. However,
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the police were unable to connect the glasses
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with the victim. They may have been entirely
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unrelated.
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DNA evidence wouldn't be used
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in the US for another fifteen years.
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Which meant the cops had to do most of their
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investigating purely
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gum shoe methods. Unfortunately,
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the lack of identifying markers
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or information about the victim left
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them with nobody to question. They
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had a few puzzle pieces, but nothing to
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put a complete picture together. Gained
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o fifty nine. Approximately
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twenty years old, five foot
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nine, one hundred twelve pounds,
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green eyes, distinguishing
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marks, a birthmark on right
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buttock, scar on left
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breast, fillings on both upper and
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lower jaw, 59 wounds
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on hands,
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cause of death, blood loss, most
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likely from a severed carotid artery.
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So We know she was stabbed
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until she died, and
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that's it. No drugs, no sign
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of sexual assault. Now
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she's clean in every way. She
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probably had a meal a couple of hours before.
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From
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some of the bruising, she may have been thrown out
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of a car after she died. Kirk
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was hoping she'd roll all the way down the canyon.
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Well, I'd say we're back to square
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one, but it's not like we ever left.
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Time for us to do our job. Wear
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her clothes.
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Jane Doe fifty nine was a bit of a
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fashionista. By checking
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the tags on her clothes, they found
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that she was wearing boots made in Spain.
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Cut off shorts from Boston and a
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jacket from Canada. Not
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high end pieces, but nice, and
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certainly widely varied in origin.
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She also had two distinct pieces
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of jewelry, a yellow ring
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with a red stone and a white
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ring made in Mexico The
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investigators considered what this could
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mean.
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So she could be from Mexico,
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Spain, Boston, or Canada.
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I
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think
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the designs on the ring are cherokee,
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and we can throw that in there too. Are you
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done helping? Use your eyes.
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The jacket and boots are older, she's
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had them for a while. Canada
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or Spain seem most likely, so
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we either had three thousand miles northeast
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or hop on a plane and start asking
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around clothing stores? Be
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realistic. I know you
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don't wanna hear it, but we
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should talk to
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him. Fine. Yeah.
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Let's talk to Manson. Given
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the nature of the murder, investigators had
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practically no leads to follow-up on.
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They were grasping at straws. The
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closest thing they had to a clue was the fact
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that the Manson murders had occurred near
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where Jane Doe was found and that the
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Manson murders involved a copious amount
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of stabbing. Charles Manson
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was then the only connection that they could think
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to follow-up on. In November of
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nineteen sixty nine, Charles
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Manson was already in custody
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for stealing Volkswagen's and turning
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them into dune buggy. Although
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his reputation had preceded him
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among the LAPD and the public,
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he was the prime suspect for the
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Tate murders and the subsequent string
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of deaths at the Manson family's hands.
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Most of the members of his family
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were still at large and wouldn't
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be apprehended for another month.
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Manson was no stranger to the interrogation
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room, but at this point he hadn't quite
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gone off the deep end. He
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still had his rock star looks and some
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friends in the community. The investigators
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brought in the forensic drawings of Jane
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Doe to try and jog Charlie's
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memory.
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You do this drawing. It's cool.
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I I know a guy who could probably flip
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this. You want her hanging up in the man's
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59. You wanna make a little cash.
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See why I didn't wanna do this. This
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girl was found on the side of the road, Charlie.
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You
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know about her?
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Found me on the side of the road once.
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Good place to be, better than the middle.
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She's dead, Charlie, stabbed,
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a hundred and fifty times. Why
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did you have your people do
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that? Man, I didn't
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have my people do anything. We're
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all operating on a higher power.
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You ever feel the power flow through
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you, then into him, then into me.
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Let's try again. Do you know who
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this is? Look close. Maybe.
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I think I know her. For real, you
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draw this. Who is she?
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Charlie? Where have you
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seen her? Ask me again later.
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Like the eight ball, results hazy.
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Ask me again later. Give me
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a name, Charlie. Alright.
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Alright. We
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can call her Tabitha. What
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do you know about Tabitha? She
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was cool, man. She had these crazy
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clothes. She upped out the
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59, then she died, you know.
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You
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know all that? Yeah.
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It's in the book. She died and
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everyone got sad. Then
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Peter showed up my disciple Peter.
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And he clapped his hands. As
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she stood back up, Watch
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this.
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Should be up and kicking now. Go and
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check for me.
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Son of a He's talking about the bible.
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Alright. Screw it. Get him out of here. See
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you again, guys. See you
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down the road. Oh, let me know what you
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call that drawing.
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So what do we got? Nothing.
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We've got nothing. With
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Manson not shedding any light on
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Jane Doe number fifty nine's identity,
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the investigators had exhausted their
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last avenue of inquiry. They
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had no solid leads to investigate
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at all. The case had stalled
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completely, so they
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decided to look into old case files
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to see if they could find any other
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murders with a similar MO.
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Eleven months prior on January
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first nineteen sixty nine, a
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victim remarkably similar to Jane
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Doe number fifty nine was discovered.
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Marina Haba, a student at the University
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of Hawaii who had been home visiting her
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mother over Christmas break.
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On December thirtieth, nineteen
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sixty eight, Marina had
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gone on a double day with her friend.
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She had dropped her friend off at
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his home at three thirty AM,
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and proceeded to drive twenty minutes
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back to her mother's home in West
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Hollywood. Around four AM,
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Marina's mother, Eloise, woke up
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to a loud muffler in her
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driveway. She looked out the window to see
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Marina standing by her car
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with a second sports car pulled into
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the driveway beside her. The
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second car's door was open, and
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LOEs could see that Marina was
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talking to a man in the vehicle. Eloise
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looked away from the window to walk
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to the front door when she
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heard a man yell go,
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then heard the sound of the vehicle
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driving away. When Eloise went
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out to the driveway, the second car
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was gone, and Marina was
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gone with it. Eloise quickly
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reported Marina missing, Then
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two days later, her body was
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found. Marina had been
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stabbed multiple times,
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and she had been pushed down the same
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ravine that Jane Doe number fifty nine
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was found in later that year.
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Haba had also not been
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sexually assaulted nor did she
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have any drugs or alcohol in her
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system when she died. Marina
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and Jane Doe's murders were
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strikingly similar, but while the
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similarities were strange, There has
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never been proof that the murders were
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connected. Upon Manson's arrest,
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he was also questioned about Marina
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Harbour, and he plead ignorance.
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Marina was a well known figure in Los
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Angeles, the daughter of
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newspaper publisher Hans Hobba
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and actress LOE's Heart.
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And there were more obvious motives at work
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in Marina's case due to her fame.
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However, according to Han's Haba,
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no ransom call ever came.
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In both cases, no suspect
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was ever identified. The
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world moved on with Jane Doe,
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number fifty nine, and Marina
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Harbour's murders, two
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permanent question marks on the LAPD's
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track record. While Marina's
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family mourned her and ensured her
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legacy would live on, Jingdou
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number fifty nine wasn't so
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lucky. She was cremated and
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buried in a mass grave in nineteen
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seventy. That was the end of
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things for a long, long time.
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However, as time went by and the
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world shifted with it, the case
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would have a drastic development.
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Decades after it had been forgotten.
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We'll
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learn what became of Jane Doe
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59 fifty nine after this.
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And now, back to our
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story. In nineteen
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sixty nine, Jane Doe
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59 fifty nine was discovered stabbed
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to death entangled in tree branches.
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With no leads to follow and
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no way to verify her identity,
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her case was slowly
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forgotten. A tragic mystery that
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looked like it would never be solved. However,
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as time went by, the world
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slowly 59. Technology
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allowed for DNA evidence to be
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collected and analyzed. Crude
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forensic art gave way to sophisticated
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computer recreations. And in
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two thousand two, the LAPD
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robbery homicide division formed
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the cold case unit, and detective
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Cliff 59 undertook a
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monumental task. Detective
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Sheppard began logging every
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single cold case in Los Angeles and
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trying to find new evidence in
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long dormant files. Los
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Angeles County has logged twenty
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two thousand unsolved murders
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in the last two decades alone.
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And while we don't have the exact number
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of cases, the cold case unit had to
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sift 59, we can estimate there
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were over one hundred thousand.
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Now the magnitude of the CCU's
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work was unimaginable. Part
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of Shepherd's job was to walk into a
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warehouse every day and go through old
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case boxes looking for
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something. He had several
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great successes putting away three
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separate serial killers based
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on cold case evidence. Rodney
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Alkala Chester Turner,
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and 59 Franklin junior,
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aka the Grim sleeper. Then
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59 eight years of working on the cold case
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unit, he came across something else that was
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worthwhile.
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Okay. Now I got Hey.
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Hey, what's this? A
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a bra. It's evidence.
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Why is evidence inside this
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box? This has been sitting here
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for thirty three
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years. There's blood on it.
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Okay. You should probably take
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it out then. Great.
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Jane
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Doe, number fifty nine. Can
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you pull the homicide report on this?
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That's probably in the homicide
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files. They need to be requisitioned. It's
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a real pain to find those old cases.
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You're not gonna do that. Are you?
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Sorry. Not really my job.
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I can refile that box for you if
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you just want the bra. I've got
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it. Thanks. Help like that. I'm
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sure detective Shepard will find the black dollya
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by lunch. After
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a blood stained bra was
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discovered that had been in the case box for
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decades, sheppard got to work.
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He pulled everything the original
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investigators had on Jane Doe number
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fifty
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nine. According to Shepherd, they
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had, quote, a black and white
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photograph of
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her. There's some rings that she had been
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wearing, there's a dental chart, there's
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fingerprints, but she's still
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an
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unknown. With the resources of
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modern technology at his disposal, he
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was able to run the ball further down
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the field and hopefully turn
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Jane Doe number fifty nine
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from an unidentified body
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into a named victim.
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Shepard pulled DNA from the bloody
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bra and took the drawings and
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59 photo of Jane Doe. And together
15:52
created something that wasn't possible in
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nineteen sixty nine. A
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full color computer generated
15:58
composite photo something that would make
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her much more recognizable than
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the forensic art created during the
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original investigation. On top
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of that, Sheppard got to work developing
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a forensic profile on the
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DNA from the bra. If
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any family members were looking
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for, They could submit their
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DNA and see if there was a match.
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Compiling all 59 information
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together was the lifeline this case
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needed. Shepherd wanted to make
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it all public as soon as possible.
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However, he ran into an unfortunate reality.
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Nobody wanted to post a postmortem
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photo online. It took
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shepherd years of hustling, cajouling,
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and begging. But finally,
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he was able to convince various missing persons
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databases to post Jane
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Doe number fifty nine's photo
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and info. The profile
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went live in two thousand
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ten. Eight years after
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Shepard pulled the box out from
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the archives. This threw up
16:56
another obstacle in Shepard's investigation.
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Shepard made the information publicly
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accessible, casting the
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widest net he could. But the world
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is a big place. Just
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like Jane Doe number fifty nine had depended
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on him to pull that evidence
17:11
box out, Shepherd now depended
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on someone out there to uncover
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the profile. He'd struggled so hard
17:17
to put together. Someone who had
17:19
been missing Jane Doe for over
17:22
forty years. By
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creating a high quality forensic
17:26
photo and DNA profile, He'd made
17:28
a major stride forward in this
17:30
cold case, but now he
17:32
needed help. He needed someone
17:34
out there to recognize her the
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weeks of waiting turned into
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months, then years. In
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two thousand twelve, after thirty
17:43
seven years on the force, Shepherd
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sat down to give an interview to
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LA
17:47
weekly. Reporters discussed what it
17:50
must have been like for him to
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retire. Clip's record is astounding,
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Rodney Ocala, the grim sleeper, he
17:56
looked into forgotten mysteries and
17:59
discovered answers many had long
18:01
thought loss. You must be proud of
18:03
them. Detective Shepherd just wants
18:05
justice for these people and to
18:07
finish these
18:07
stories. Some of them are horribly tragic
18:10
and they almost started tearing at his heart right
18:12
there. Those
18:13
cases he'd make notes on and say, I've got
18:15
to get back to this one to suddenly
18:18
stop. For a man like detective
18:20
Shepherd, it's a void. He's
18:22
not sure what he's gonna do after this.
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That's the life of any detective.
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But especially one of Shepard's stature.
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For every case he cracked, there
18:31
were ten that would be passed down
18:34
the road. You have to imagine that Jane Doe, number
18:36
fifty nine's
18:36
face, loomed large in his mind.
18:39
For two whole years, the
18:41
profile had been publicly available.
18:43
And nobody had come forward. He'd done
18:46
what he could, but apparently nobody
18:48
was trying to find her. He told a
18:51
reporter, quote, There is a time to
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go and although I would like to
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continue some especially working
18:57
on some of the cases that really
18:59
bothered me At some point, I
19:01
have to give it up and pass it on to
19:03
others. Detective Shepherd felt like
19:05
he had done all he could. And that it
19:07
was time for him to pass the baton
19:09
to someone else. So when
19:11
detective Shepherd retired in two thousand
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twelve, Jane Doe, number
19:15
fifty nine, unidentified on
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the internet with her last champion
19:19
moving on. It seemed the case
19:21
would never develop until two
19:23
thousand and fifteen. Three
19:25
years later when an important pair
19:27
of eyeballs spotted her
19:30
information on the
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web. Hildi,
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I just got your email. Let me open it first.
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Hurry, Elsa. I need to make sure
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I'm not crazy. What these
19:39
drawings? What am I looking for?
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Oh, it
19:43
doesn't look like her right. Two
19:46
old friends in Canada had been
19:48
swapping emails for years. Sending
19:50
forensic drawings of unidentified
19:52
murder victims, hoping to come across
19:54
someone they knew. We'll refer
19:56
to them as Elsa and Hilde,
19:58
for the sake of their privacy. Well,
20:03
actually, where did you find this? Never
20:06
mind. It's it's not her. Sorry
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to bother you.
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Wait. Hang on. I'm on the website this
20:11
drawing was from. I just wanna
20:13
see what else they Oh
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my god. Did you
20:17
see this picture? They say they put it together
20:19
from the drawings and a
20:22
morgue photo. I think
20:24
it's her. Read.
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Oh my god. 59. We
20:31
found 59. In two
20:33
thousand fifteen, the two
20:35
friends came across the profile that 59 had
20:37
struggled to get online. The
20:40
profile closely resembled a
20:42
mutual friend who had gone
20:44
missing decades earlier, and they
20:46
had been searching online for
20:48
profiles like this ever since the Internet
20:50
became mainstream. They called
20:52
another old 59, Anne
20:54
Jervison and showed her
20:56
the information where she could submit
20:58
her DNA. And sent
21:00
in a sample of her DNA, and
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it came back as a strong match
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to Jane Doe number fifty nine.
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After forty six years,
21:09
decades of hopeless searching,
21:11
dead end after dead end,
21:13
and one final hail Mary
21:16
move that required five years of waiting in
21:18
pure random
21:18
chance, Jane Doe number fifty
21:21
nine had been found.
21:25
Her true name was Rita
21:28
Jervison. She was a Canadian who had
21:30
been survived by her older sister
21:32
Anne who lived in Quebec.
21:34
Now that her name was known, the
21:37
LAPD had just received their
21:39
biggest break in the case in forty
21:41
six years. Anne was happy to help
21:43
push for another big break as
21:45
well. Anne spoke to the
21:47
press saying, quote,
21:49
Forty six years have passed since REIT's
21:51
death, and I am the last living member
21:53
of her immediate family. I
21:55
have written this statement and
21:57
making it available to the public in the hopes that it
22:00
might prompt someone to provide leads
22:02
to the police. This,
22:04
in turn, may help the solve
22:06
the mystery surrounding this horrible
22:09
crime. Anne had taken it upon
22:11
herself to maintain REIT's legacy.
22:14
Most of what we know about REIT we learned from
22:16
her. REIT was the youngest of the
22:18
Jorberson family. They were Estonian
22:21
who fled from the Nazis in
22:23
the early nineteen
22:24
forties. In nineteen fifty
22:27
one, they settled in Quebec, Canada,
22:29
shortly after REIT was born.
22:30
And said of her sister, quote,
22:33
REIT was a lovely free 59
22:35
and and happy girl. She
22:37
was very artistic, drew well, and
22:39
like to sew her own clothes. She
22:41
was involved in girl guides and saying in
22:43
a youth choir. She was
22:45
deeply loved by both family and friends.
22:48
As children, REIT and Anne, were
22:50
very close, even raising
22:52
budgies together for 59, Eventually,
22:54
Reed grew into an adventurous young
22:57
woman and longed to see the world.
22:59
She started her adventure by moving in
23:01
with her grandmother in Toronto
23:04
way across the continent from her home
23:06
city of Vancouver when she was
23:08
only seventeen years old. Of
23:10
course, some of her wanderlust may have
23:12
been driven by average teenage
23:14
lust. In REIT's
23:16
case, she seemed to be pursuing a handsome
23:18
young man, most likely in his
23:20
lower twenties, she met when she was
23:22
eighteen in nineteen sixty eight at the
23:24
image 59, a hangout for
23:26
hippies in Montreal.
23:30
Hildy, he might as well be Jim
23:33
Morrison. He looks just like
23:35
him. The hair looks like him.
23:37
And he said he loved you. He
23:40
did. We were two tables away right
23:42
over
23:42
there, and he said, well, he
23:44
didn't say it. But
23:46
You just hummed a few bars of
23:48
touch me. You're an easy
23:50
mark. Well, it's
23:53
about time you had your first tragic
23:55
love. Why tragic? You said
23:57
he's moving to California? Well
24:00
well, REIT. No.
24:03
You're going all the way over
24:04
there. 59 your fake Jim Morrison,
24:06
you should go after the real Jim
24:08
Morrison if you're in Los Angeles. It's
24:11
just for a visit. I've got the money
24:13
Maybe not real Jim Morrison
24:14
money, but enough to see him, you're
24:16
really serious. And your
24:19
parents are okay with this.
24:21
They're thrilled. Okay.
24:23
No. They're fine with
24:25
it. Really? I'm a grown up, and
24:27
they know that. And it's just for a
24:30
little while. Who knows? I might even find my
24:32
place there. I can't work for
24:34
Canada post until I'm an old
24:35
maid. Right? Please?
24:37
As soon as I can.
24:40
REIT did write after she left.
24:42
In September nineteen sixty nine, when
24:44
she was only nineteen years old,
24:47
REIT flew to Los Angeles, California to
24:49
visit her lover Jean. After
24:51
weeks without contact from 59, she
24:53
sent a postcard to Hilli
24:55
and one doer family of a pretty
24:58
beach side stretch of houses. It
25:00
was postmarked October thirty
25:02
first nineteen sixty nine, It
25:04
was written in
25:04
Estonian, but translated,
25:07
it
25:07
read. The weather
25:08
is nice and the people are kind. I have a
25:10
nice little apartment. I go
25:12
frequently to the beach. Please write to
25:14
me hugs REIT. While
25:18
REIT's trip to Los Angeles was
25:20
originally meant to be a short vacation, The
25:23
postcard heavily implied that REIT intended
25:25
to stay in Los Angeles indefinitely.
25:27
That was the last any one of her
25:29
friends or family heard from her.
25:32
According to Anne, there wasn't much
25:34
cause for alarm. As REIT had
25:36
moved to Toronto, she
25:38
rarely checked in with her family. Leaving
25:40
the catch up conversation to her grandmother.
25:43
Her family accepted that REIT was an
25:45
adventurous young woman and they
25:47
wished the best for her as she set out on her
25:49
new life. Assuming that they
25:51
would hear from her again at some point
25:53
down the road. Of course,
25:55
as time passed, her
25:57
family failed to receive any word from
25:59
read at all. Despite this lack
26:01
of contact, they never thought to report
26:03
her missing. To hear Anne tell
26:05
the story, her family just didn't know
26:07
that that was what they should do. This
26:10
was pre internet, pre cell
26:12
phone. The Gilbert Suns
26:14
were at the mercy of the postal service.
26:17
Besides, REIT wanted to adventure. She wanted to
26:19
travel. She could be living anywhere.
26:21
And REIT's family wanted to let her
26:23
spread her wings, Besides, they were
26:26
in Quebec and she was in
26:28
California, they didn't believe they had
26:30
many options at their disposal. Over
26:32
time though, they grew concerned
26:34
and then worried. After several
26:36
months without contact, they
26:38
asked a family friend who was visiting LA
26:40
to check-in on the address on the
26:43
postcard. The family friend was told that
26:45
REIT had moved out of her apartment weeks
26:47
earlier and left without a forwarding
26:49
address. The Germansans were left
26:51
without any leads themselves. That
26:54
was when the Germans tried the only
26:56
thing they could think of. After
26:58
several more months of silence,
27:00
the Germans hired a private
27:03
investigator, while a good idea at
27:05
the time the PI's lack of
27:07
progress became a topic of serious
27:09
friction between REIT's 59, Arthur
27:11
and Mother Sylvia.
27:13
Investigators nothing. How
27:16
can that be, Arthur? She has
27:18
to be somewhere. Maybe this man took our
27:20
money and ran. Shouldn't we hunt him
27:22
down?
27:22
Oh, no. He wouldn't have done
27:25
that. Well, maybe he did, but I don't think
27:27
so. He must
27:28
have looked and simply found nothing.
27:31
That's impossible. Give
27:33
me his name or his
27:33
number. I will give him a peace of my
27:36
mind if he thinks nothing is
27:38
acceptable.
27:38
Let him work Sylvia.
27:41
Patience.
27:41
He could still be down there finding her. The
27:43
whole adventure with a private investigator
27:46
is a strange addendum to this tale
27:49
and one that has puzzled Anne as much as
27:51
the rest of the 59. It's
27:53
difficult to figure out what exactly
27:55
the investigator did
27:58
It seemed as if he never even inquired
28:00
at the LAPD about any Jane
28:03
Doe's. Although Anne thinks it's also
28:05
possible that the investigator did
28:07
check the LAPD's Jane Doe
28:09
59, and he was simply unable to
28:11
recognize REIT from the original forensic
28:14
drawings. Nonetheless, the
28:16
Jervison's efforts to find REIT had been
28:18
in vain and caused
28:20
even more heartache. And as all
28:22
their efforts were done in vain,
28:24
only one last clue would help point
28:26
this case to its conclusion.
28:32
Will discuss this clue after
28:35
this.
28:35
And now, back to
28:38
the story. Rita
28:40
Jervison's body had been discovered on
28:42
November sixteenth nineteen sixty nine.
28:45
However, as her body was unidentified,
28:48
Her family searched for for months having no
28:50
idea she had been harmed at
28:51
all. After a family friend and a
28:54
private eye had both run into dead
28:56
Ann's tracking REIT, Only
28:58
one other clue to REIT's whereabouts would
29:00
show itself. This clue came
29:02
from REIT's friend Hilde when she
29:04
encountered REIT's Jim Morrison.
29:07
A man who she believed was named Jean
29:09
in nineteen seventy not long
29:11
after REIT's
29:11
death. Jean,
29:14
you're
29:14
back in Montreal. Where's REIT?
29:17
She
29:17
decided to stay. She's a real California
29:20
girl.
29:20
Uh-huh. But I thought she was, you know,
29:23
with you. Oh,
29:24
yeah. She was with me for a couple of 59, and then she left
29:26
on her own. Everything's fine. She
29:28
was happy. What's
29:29
she doing now? Is she making it big as
29:32
an actress? Not
29:33
sure. It got to run. I've got a
29:35
thing. But wait, where's Reed's
29:38
staying? Can I write her? 59. No.
29:40
Bye. The few recollections people
29:42
had of John were that he was always on the move. He would
29:45
never sit
29:45
still. No wonder he'll be found him so hard
29:48
to pin down. That was the only
29:50
hint he'll be had at reach
29:52
whereabouts until two thousand fifteen.
29:55
Reed's absence haunted the
29:57
Jervisons and her friends and
30:00
said, quote, eventually, REIT's name never passed
30:02
my father's lips. My
30:04
mother, each year, would write REIT a
30:06
birthday card.
30:07
I found them in her drawer. She would
30:10
write REIT's name followed by a
30:12
question
30:12
mark, as if she didn't know where
30:14
to send the letter. Then
30:16
through pure random chance as
30:18
they searched the web in two thousand
30:20
and fifteen, Hildy and
30:23
Elsa found the profile that Shepard had dedicated
30:25
so much time to. Anne
30:27
had found her missing sister, but
30:29
several other questions remained unanswered.
30:32
With REIT's identity now
30:35
discovered, Luis Rivera of the
30:37
LAPD cold case unit was put
30:39
in charge of the case. To
30:41
this day, Rivera is responsible
30:43
for tracking down REIT's killer.
30:45
While the whereabouts of REIT's, then
30:47
boyfriend, Jean, were still unknown. And
30:49
Reed's sister and her friends had plenty of information to fuel
30:52
Rivera's search. There was
30:54
one person who Rivera felt he
30:56
should check-in on first. 59 eighty
30:58
two years old, Charles Manson had
31:01
kept the public just as enchanted and
31:03
terrified as he did in nineteen
31:05
sixty nine.
31:07
I told you we do this again. You
31:09
ever get a name for that drawing?
31:11
Detective Rivera sent me to tell you her
31:13
name is REIT Jervison. She
31:16
was stabbed one hundred fifty seven times in
31:19
nineteen sixty
31:19
nine. Man, look
31:22
at that. You redid the art and took
31:23
the art out of it. My
31:26
guy won't buy
31:26
this one. You have the old drawing.
31:29
Read Jervitz and Charlie.
31:32
She was nineteen years old. She was
31:34
from Canada. I hung out with a guy. It
31:36
looked like Jim
31:36
Morrison. You think
31:38
I'd chill with Morrison? Sorry,
31:41
man. You can take the doors out
31:43
of here. You know
31:46
what? I
31:48
believe you.
31:48
You should all believe me, man. I
31:51
never lied. Never lied.
31:53
Truth will set you
31:54
free. I'm just waiting for it to turn the key.
31:56
Manson would be freed the next
31:59
year when he died in two thousand
32:01
seventeen. In the meantime, Rivera
32:03
had finally crossed Manson's name off
32:06
the list. He confirmed
32:08
publicly in two thousand sixteen
32:10
that Manson had given them no new
32:13
leads. Now
32:15
it was time to look at the facts.
32:17
The best place to start was REITs
32:20
postcard to her family and her
32:22
friends. There was a return address,
32:24
fifty three eleven Melrose
32:26
Avenue, apartment 306
32:28
If you head to that address now, you'll
32:31
find luxury apartments opposite the
32:33
Raleigh studios. Back in
32:35
nineteen sixty nine, however, it was
32:37
the Paramount Hotel. Next
32:39
to Paramount Studios. The
32:41
hotel at that time was
32:43
converted to apartments and in apartment
32:45
306 lived a man
32:48
named Jean. Well, the obvious move
32:50
would be to search the Paramount Hotel
32:52
and the apartment Jean and Reed would
32:54
have shared, but it was demolished in nineteen
32:56
eighty nine before anyone could have
32:58
even known to check there. Even with
33:00
knowing REIT's identity, having her
33:02
address in Los Angeles, and
33:04
knowing that a man named Jean was a
33:06
person of interest, the
33:08
uncertainties and lack of leads seemed
33:10
insurmountable. But there was one last
33:12
ally to come to REIT's aid,
33:14
the press. After her identity
33:16
was revealed, there was a firestorm
33:18
of press interest in the story.
33:21
Both from the American and Canadian
33:24
media. After weathering hundreds of
33:26
inquiries, Anne Jervison agreed
33:28
to work with
33:29
CBC, A NEWS ORGANIZATION OUT
33:31
OF MONTREAL. THE CBC TEAM
33:33
GOT TO WORK IMMEDIALLY AND
33:35
DISCOVERED THERE WAS ANOTHER PERSON
33:38
Montreal, who knew Jean. An artist
33:40
named Paul Roberts. During the
33:42
late nineteen sixties, Robert was
33:44
a waiter at the image cafe.
33:47
The same cafe that Jean and Reed had
33:49
met him. However, nobody
33:51
had heard from him since at least
33:53
two thousand seven. In
33:56
two thousand sixteen, CBC
33:58
managed to track down Paul Roberts,
34:00
the last thread to tug on
34:02
for Jean's whereabouts He was still an artist
34:04
in Montreal. If Robert's memory
34:07
of Jean was vague, it was
34:09
at least suitably poetic. Robert
34:12
described him as angelic with
34:14
a face that seemed to come out of
34:16
shadows. Robert specifically remembered
34:18
him always wearing a white shirt and
34:20
denim jacket. With Robert's
34:22
help and Hildy's input, a forensic
34:25
drawing of Jean was completed and
34:27
presented to Luis Rivera. The
34:30
LAPD released the sketch of
34:32
Jean, handsome with a truly
34:34
striking resemblance to
34:36
Jim Morrison, on September sixteenth two thousand
34:38
sixteen. And that is the last
34:40
bit of progress that has been made
34:42
on the case of
34:44
Reid Jervison. The
34:46
sad truth of REIT Jervison's
34:48
case is that the odds of finding 59 true
34:50
killer and bringing them to
34:52
justice are slim. Even with
34:54
all the incredible breakthroughs in luck
34:56
that came with discovering her identity.
34:58
There are three possibilities
35:00
we can latch onto. One, the obvious
35:03
theory, is that Jean killed her. Even
35:05
though Rivera hasn't yet elevated Jean
35:07
beyond a person of
35:10
interest, his theories tell a different story. According
35:12
to Rivera, the fact that REIT was
35:14
stabbed a hundred and fifty seven times
35:16
indicates either a
35:18
maniac, or a love gone
35:22
wrong. We know
35:24
that Reed was at least romantically
35:27
interested in John, although reports vary about the intimacy
35:29
of their relationship. Who knows
35:32
if it was a serious love
35:34
or if reached travels to
35:36
California were merely the impulses of
35:38
a bored
35:38
girl. While Jean's response
35:41
to Hilli was cagey, We
35:43
also know that he was generally a
35:45
hurried person. And from Hilli's
35:48
recollections, she ran into him
35:50
randomly. He may have been in
35:52
a rush already may have been dodging
35:53
her. We could also read the fact that John never reported
35:55
re missing as a
35:57
point against him But we don't
36:00
know if Reed had moved on from his
36:02
apartment before her death. She may
36:04
have just wanted to live somewhere
36:06
else and John didn't pursue her. Either way,
36:08
he's
36:08
the main person of interest to the LAPD
36:10
and the one lead they're
36:12
still chasing down. So he goes to
36:14
the top of our suspect list.
36:16
Another theory one that will probably never die is that
36:19
Manson was lying about his
36:21
involvement with REIT's death.
36:24
There are rumors that REIT spent time in places like
36:26
spawn ranch, the base of operations
36:29
for the Manson family. And
36:31
even that she was a witness to another Manson
36:34
murder. But these are all
36:36
unsubstantiated. On top of that,
36:38
beyond the location and general
36:40
time frame, There's almost
36:42
nothing material to connect REIT's
36:44
death to the MO of the Manson
36:46
family. While Manson ordered his
36:48
family to kill people
36:50
who had slighted him in some way or in order to make a
36:52
statement. The family also
36:54
never made an effort to hide
36:56
the bodies which doesn't
36:58
match with Reed's killer trying to hide her on
37:01
Mulholland Drive. On
37:04
that note, the LAPD hasn't fully ruled out his
37:06
involvement. And with Manson's death
37:08
in two thousand
37:09
seventeen, we may never get a
37:12
full answer. The last
37:14
possibility is that neither John nor
37:16
Manson had anything to do with REIT's
37:18
death. Considering Marina Harbour's
37:20
similar death eleven months before REIT,
37:23
There may have been a serial killer
37:25
involved in both murders. Once
37:27
again, there is no way to firmly
37:29
connect the two crimes Right now, their
37:31
similarities are merely a gruesome
37:33
coincidence. We have so little to go
37:36
on for
37:38
these theories. Other than the postcard she sent to her shortly
37:40
before her death, we don't have
37:42
any information about how REIT spent
37:44
her final days in Los Angeles.
37:48
Nobody has come forward to say they knew her since her identity
37:50
was revealed. She's almost as
37:52
ghostly a presence in this story
37:56
as John. We know she was in
37:57
LA, and we know what fate befell her. The rest is
38:00
lost to time. What
38:02
is left
38:02
over is the constant feeling of
38:06
loss and guilt that REIT's friends and family felt.
38:08
Soon after REIT was identified,
38:10
Anne 59 daughter brought
38:13
her to Budge's similar to the
38:16
ones that Anne and Reed kept his
38:18
children. Anne named
38:20
the budgies Buenus and
38:22
Deus. As she looked at the birds, they reminded her of her long
38:24
lost sister and wondered if there was
38:26
anything else she could have
38:27
done. We may
38:30
never know. With all that
38:32
said, I think the most likely
38:34
suspect is Jean. He
38:36
was REIT's only contact in LA
38:39
And if anybody knew what had happened to her, it
38:41
would have been him. I agree.
38:44
Even if Sean was not directly
38:46
responsible for REIT's death, he would most
38:48
likely have been the person who introduced
38:50
her to her later
38:52
murderer. This case hinges on
38:54
identifying 59. Which may
38:56
never happen at this point.
38:58
The investigation is still open,
39:00
and Anne Jerbertson still
39:02
ten's, reap gerverson
39:04
dot com. The picture of Jean and Luis Rivera's
39:06
contact information are on there
39:08
too. If you or someone
39:10
you know, recognizes
39:12
anything we've told you today, please
39:14
reach out to detective Rivera.
39:21
Thanks again for
39:25
tuning in to
39:28
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39:30
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39:32
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