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down every aisle. Hello

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everybody and welcome back to the Chiliminati

1:25

Podcast. As always, I'm

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one of your hosts, Mike Martin, joined today

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by the Snoopy and Woodstock of LA, Jesse

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and not Alex. Alex is a

1:35

busy man. He was recently married, so in his stead, a

1:37

Mr. Michael Santel. We married him

1:39

off. We got rid of him. We did. We married him off?

1:42

Well, Santel was more involved, was much more

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involved at least than I was. I saw

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him run up there, put a name tag

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on, it was very funny. I did. I

1:51

did unwanted bits during the wedding that were

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then quickly shoot away my people. I must

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stress, so many bits.

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I was not expecting as many bits. aerospace

6:00

threat identification program. Bam, there it is. Thank

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you, I apologize. I just want to make

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sure we all were on the set because

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some people might not know what that is.

6:09

So not to be confused with the program

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before this, which was awesome. Which got turned

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into a tip under the hood by, again,

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a bunch of over compartmentalized pieces of the

6:18

government that don't talk to each other. Just

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for your clarity's sake, the Advanced

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Aerospace Threat Identification Program was an

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unclassified but unpublished investigatory

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effort funded by the US to

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study UAPs or unexplained aerial phenomenon.

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The program was made public on

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December 16th, 2017. Remember

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those when the videos were leaking and all those like

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you, that was kind of in junction with this. But

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the program began in 2007 with

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a funding of a measly 22 million over five

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years, which if you know anything about government programs,

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that's not a lot of money. Appropriations

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were ended in 2012 and

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the program began in the US Defense

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Intelligence Agency afterward. So it's just like

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moved around under different umbrellas and

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was denied, denied, denied until it was leaked that

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it was real. Lou Elizondo says he

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was in charge of it, part of

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it. And then the Pentagon has said, no, that's

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not true for years and years and years. And

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then three months ago or two months ago, a

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FOIA requested memo got leaked to the guy

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who runs the Black Vault, which is he

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just a FOIA guy. He just FOA is

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and documents everything. And he got

7:22

it where basically it was the government not

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only naming ATIP, but also naming Lou Elizondo

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on the memo. And he wasn't the guy

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who got the FOIA, wasn't supposed to get

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it. It was an accidental send to him

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from the person who was on the other

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end of FOIA. So it was

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like, whether quote unquote accident or somebody on the

7:40

other side, because what we're also learning is like,

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there's basically the old guard, all the old fucks

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who were like, don't wanna let go of any

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of the secrets. And there are some that I

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agree for national security reasons. But

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then there's the new guard who's like, no,

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some of this fucking shit's insane and the

7:55

public needs to know. And there's like a

7:57

budding of heads. And that's what this book

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essentially outlawed.