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human, he was a Nova, man. Pac
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was Prince at 24. I
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know all these dope people, man, and you just
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go, you know it when you know it. Pac
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was just, he
35:11
was special. He would probably be dropping his 40th
35:15
album, because he was a
35:17
writer. You had a big post about
35:19
like, with the Drake and Kendrick
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thing where you were like, hey, you
35:23
know, people get murdered in
35:26
this. Yeah. Because
35:28
you were at the tunnel and all
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that, and you were friends with Biggie
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and Tupac. Yeah. I
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saw, first of all, Pac,
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I did Above the Run with Tupac.
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Players, I'm okay, you know me. Fucking
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good player at a wheelchair, man. I
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got cool with him because I used to go down to the
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set of Juice, because Omar Abs is my best friend. We
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were kids, so I would go down to
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the set, and me, him, and Pac got
35:57
real cool. to
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hang out and what we identified with, we
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were all very similar. Like, we're from the
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hood, but we're not of the hood,
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but we are. Like, we could touch it. We
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could live that life, but we choose not to
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because we're performing arts, high school kids. We're
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trying to run away from the muck. Park
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just kept getting sucked back in. So,
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the three of us hung out a lot. And
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when Park hung out with us, we would laugh.
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And if Park, you told a joke, and
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you had one up on him, he was
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gonna get one up on you. He had to
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be the funniest. If he was fighting, he had
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to have the most punches. He was always that
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guy. Um, and I
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saw Park 20 minutes
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before he got shot. Me
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and Omar and Mitchell, my
36:44
other friend went to performing arts, high school with, was
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in, um, uh... at
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the Luxor, getting into a cab. And
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Tupac was getting into that BMW. And
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he had all these people around him. And
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Shug and all that. Were you still seeing him every
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once in a while? Yeah, we saw him with them,
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and I was like, come on, guys, let's just keep
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going. I turned to the white
37:09
guy. Our cab's great. He's busy. And Omar's
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like, nah, fuck that. We gonna go say
37:14
what's up. I said, you sure
37:16
about this? I'm gonna trust your
37:18
dark skin instinct. And
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then we went over, and Omar said, what's up? And
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we gave hugs, and I said, what's up? And we
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sat there, and we talked, and we laughed. And
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then their car pulled up.
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And, uh, we said our goodbyes, and we got
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in the car. And then, on
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our way there, 20 minutes later, we heard he got
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shot. We thought he was gonna make it. Yeah.
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We had no idea he was gonna pass. Uh,
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because he had been through so much already. And then
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Biggie, I saw at the
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automotive museum, because I
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know Puff and all
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those guys for years. So,
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because I went to Howard University. Yeah. I
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saw them going up the escalator, and living color
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was on, and Biggie was like, yo. I
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love you or your brother's shit. And
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then 20 minutes later, bah, bah, bah, biggie
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died. And I went to the hospital and
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Puff and all of them was outside crying. And
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it was like, oh, shit. And then
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flipped back to 10 years or 15 years
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prior. There's
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a picture. Pop called me out to come
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hang out. And him
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and Biggie were performing at
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Glam Slam, which was Princes Club downtown.
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There's a famous picture with Tupac and Biggie.
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And if you look in the corner, there's a
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young Marlon Wayans in the corner just like twisting
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money. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was it wasn't 15
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years. It was like five years or something, right?
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Because 15 would have been the 80s. I don't
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know. Yeah, but yeah. It's all a
38:47
dream. You get to be a 52. To
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me, they just died yesterday. So
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yeah, man, that was a. What
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you're saying is you're a bad luck charm. Guys,
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if you're around Marlon Wayans, you're about
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to get shot. Duck. 20
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minutes and duck. But
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while I was saying to Kendrick and Drake, it's like,
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y'all be aware of your
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words. You're aware of the power
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of your words. I
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knew both these greats. Yeah.
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Take your egos out of this. Save your life
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and be an example for all these other kids
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because shit gets real. And then it
39:24
compiles. And now look at what happened at
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Drake's house. It's just like, y'all
39:28
gotta shake hands and let it be love because at
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the end of the day, this is just art, man.
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But you know, it takes a
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long time. The older you get, the
39:38
easier it is to drop shit. I ain't got no beef
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with nobody, man. No, no, but I'm saying when you're 20
39:42
in hip hop. When
39:44
your knees are good. Exactly.
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Yes. When you can scrap
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with anybody at any time and you're
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like, when it. Sure, that's more than
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ain't fighting anybody. Exactly. So
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it's like, so you, I'm sure even if you
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could talk to them now would be. like, no,
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for a while it's like fuck them, fuck them,
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fuck them. But then eventually they
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would have come to like, man, that was a fucking waste of
40:07
time. That was a
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huge mistake. Stupid. Yeah. I
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seen it swirling out of control and I was
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just like, y'all don't see what's happening here? I
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knew it was going to get dark. I knew, I
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just knew it. And I started to feel it
40:22
with this Drake and Kendrick thing. And I was
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like, listen, I'm going to say something. Call me
40:27
the old man in the room. Yeah. But if
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I can just be like, hey, hey, hey, young
40:31
man, I think you're both great. I think everybody's
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great. And I think J Cole to
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me, he gives all my
40:38
respect for being like, I'm not, this
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is not my plan. I ain't fucking with none of this. This
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ain't my spirit. I thought that was the, that was some grown
40:44
man shit. I was like, he has to have
40:46
some great dick hair. That was a
40:48
great dick hair moment. Yeah. Yeah. You're absolutely
40:50
right. Whereas it's like, yeah, you just go,
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what the fuck you know, what the fuck.
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You're going to make mean rhymes about people
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that I love. Yeah, stupid. That's
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the lamest shit I ever did in my
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fucking life, right? You have, you
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don't like confrontation in relationships.
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No. You've
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been married or you have, how many baby
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mother? Only two. Okay.
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And is it the same
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issue? No. So
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you, how do you, you just avoid conversation.
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Like you don't start it or
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you try to, I just don't like
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to argue. I just like to have fun. Yeah. I just
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want to have fun. All I want to
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do is have fun. I don't argue. I don't want
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to talk about a relationship. If I
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got to talk about the relationship, then we're not
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in the relationship. We're walking through your anxiety and
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through your fears. Because if you're
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in this relationship, then you're loving me, you're
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hugging me, you're touching me. We're holding hands.
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We're laughing together. All this
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talk about this now,
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you're giving me anxiety. I
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don't want to argue. I just want to smile.
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And if I'm 52 and
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God blesses me to live another 20
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years.
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