0:02

Judge line drive right field

0:04

hit well and it's up

0:06

and out. Judge

0:10

has hovered. The

0:13

game is tied at three. Incredible.

0:17

That ball's hit well. Deep center field. Way

0:20

back there. John Carlos. Stenton, a

0:23

home run. Judge

0:25

and Stenton go back to back.

0:28

The New York Yankees have

0:30

grabbed the lead. Oh

0:33

my goodness. Big

0:37

Christmas has tied it.

0:42

The ultimate. Present

0:44

under the tree. Deep

0:49

drive left field. Fries

0:51

watching. It is a walk

0:54

off home run. David

0:56

Fai lights up the

0:59

Cleveland night. That my

1:01

friends is one minute

1:04

of quality low hanging

1:06

fruit. Oh, you

1:09

write that down. I did. And

1:13

that's the last time I mentioned low hanging fruit. It is

1:15

Blair and Barker for Friday. What

1:19

game? What did we witness last night?

1:21

I mean, you were the one saying that the American League

1:23

series was boring. Well,

1:25

up until last night. Well, up until the eighth

1:27

inning of last night. It was.

1:31

Boy, there, I mean, there's a lot to talk about

1:33

in that game. Well, we'll talk about obviously the Dodgers,

1:35

the Dodgers putting the boots to the Mets 10-2. Hands

1:39

up if we saw that coming. But

1:42

I mean, there's a lot of things we got to talk about obviously

1:45

with the Guardians game. A

1:47

7-5 win in 10 innings. Some

1:51

great closers, some great high leverage

1:53

guys giving up bombs. Pedro

1:57

Avila, the hero. of

2:00

the heroes for the for the Guardians

2:02

with a couple of strikeouts. We got to talk about

2:04

John Kenzie Noel's home run big Christmas his home run

2:06

though Kevin here's a guy it's a pinch hit home

2:08

run bottom of the ninth he

2:11

has not I believe he was one for 19

2:14

pinch hitting this year something like that and I

2:18

mean watching

2:21

him go around the bases

2:23

he seemed to be the only person the ballpark that

2:26

wasn't surprised that he did that why

2:28

he had to be like I said everyone's

2:30

every once in a while you got to

2:32

look the part Francisco adored it I know

2:35

he did really I mean he flipped that bad

2:37

pretty hard like as soon as the change-up was

2:40

I mean if you throw any other pitch

2:42

than that one he's out yeah like he

2:44

you mentioned I mean been sitting over there

2:46

forever like coming off the bench like he's

2:48

a young kid like you know if you

2:51

just make a decent pitch you're gonna get him out

2:53

just don't throw a change-up down the middle and then

2:56

you know the big Christmas and you

2:58

look you knew in the

3:00

10th inning after that Homer you knew in

3:02

the 10th inning when bow Naylor got the

3:04

lead-off single that was over Naylor never gets

3:07

hit so I mean I hate to say

3:09

it that way but he never does it's

3:11

rare like and then when he

3:13

got the lead-off hit like you knew the fry Homer

3:15

was coming front of us out of hit bands

3:17

like and I've mentioned this

3:19

to you before beginning of the playoffs when

3:22

these good hitters you can get them out you

3:24

make good pitches I mean the judge clauset at

3:26

bat that cutter is on the black 99 away

3:28

I mean it's just better hitting it at this

3:30

pitch like I mean that's a located 99 clauset

3:33

is doing exactly what he wanted to do

3:35

just a big donkey who does things that

3:37

most humans can't do got him

3:39

in a in a big-time situation it's

3:42

just I think what you've noticed

3:44

is when they get a good one they never miss

3:46

him like it's like the stand

3:48

you could tell frontside pull trying to cheat

3:50

to get the 99 away he

3:53

spends him a slider right down the middle most

3:55

of the time because you're flying open you've lost

3:58

your lower half you missed that

4:00

you fell it off, you are out and around it.

4:02

You hit a ground ball to the shortstop, just

4:05

for whatever reason in this playoffs, man, they

4:07

get a good pitch to hit. That's a

4:09

hitters pitch. They are hitting these

4:11

things to the moon. And whoever says homers is

4:13

not fun to watch. Don't watch baseball. I

4:16

mean, that is

4:18

jumping up and down like me. I was

4:20

jumping up and down. My son was going,

4:22

dang, what's wrong with this? I'm

4:24

like, son, it's just the greatest

4:27

thing ever. And if the

4:29

Lord is not busy and has

4:31

nothing else to do and wants to sprinkle

4:33

a little bit of that dust on the

4:35

Guardians to where they went today and

4:38

just have the Yankees in an uproar, boy.

4:43

Yeah, if you are the Yankees,

4:46

you look back at that game, your

4:49

two reliable pitchers gave up home runs.

4:53

Obviously, Emmanuel Class A did well. Anthony

4:55

Rizzo came in, played first

4:57

base, did not look comfortable, a couple of

4:59

plays not made. You

5:03

had Judge do what Judge is

5:05

supposed to do all along. You had Stanton following

5:07

with a home run. I mean,

5:09

if you're Aaron Boone, you're

5:11

looking at that. And

5:15

you're just kind of saying, OK, what is?

5:17

Yeah, it's just one game. We lost one

5:19

game. But what

5:22

does it mean? And if you lose two,

5:24

and Joel Sherman pointed this out, that

5:26

was the 20th anniversary of

5:28

that game in 2004 where the Red

5:31

Sox are on the ropes, Dave Roberts

5:33

steals second, Red Sox go on to

5:35

win, and they go on to

5:38

take the series four games to three and go

5:41

on to win the World Series. And I mean,

5:43

I'm not saying that Aaron Boone's sitting there thinking,

5:45

oh, geez, here we go. Well, he could be.

5:47

But Luis Hill hadn't pitched since the 28th of

5:49

September. And what else are you supposed to do?

5:51

I mean, you've crushed

5:53

the best closer in the game. You're

5:56

two big guys have got home runs. Yeah,

6:01

I think I think it's baseball. I

6:03

think you just you know,

6:05

it's one of them days. It's the beauty of

6:07

October It's the beauty of going on the road.

6:09

Just so happens you got beaten a dude through

6:11

two pitches that he shouldn't have been throwing Just

6:13

two guys that you know, it's the

6:16

it's the sinker that didn't sink. It's the change up

6:18

down the middle It's rare that they do either one

6:20

of those right and it's when they were ahead in

6:22

the count That's the you know, I think the the

6:24

the change up was it was a 1-0 count So,

6:27

you know again, but it's a young kid who's

6:29

trying to make his way wasn't over swinging. That's

6:31

what I said It's just it is some it

6:33

is amazing how hard these guys throw the way

6:35

it breaks and when they make a mistake They

6:38

pay for it. It is Friday So we'll go

6:40

to the back leg line four one six four

6:42

one three three nine five nine get your thoughts

6:44

on the game So far questions if you still

6:46

want to talk about the Blue Jays There's

6:49

anything we haven't touched Feel

6:51

free to call it's bringing Jeff passing

6:54

the SPNs MLB insider. Hello, mr. Passen

6:57

Gentlemen, how are you? Well, I'm

7:00

conflicted because Because

7:02

I would like to see a judge

7:04

Oh tiny World Series don't say it

7:06

but I really I got

7:09

a minute I enjoyed watching Cleveland win

7:11

last night probably more like for someone

7:13

who doesn't didn't have anyone invested in

7:16

anything invested in the game I

7:18

really enjoyed that I was Unusually

7:21

happy by Blair standards at the result of

7:23

that game So

7:25

you almost smiled oh

7:27

I smiled not only did I smile I

7:29

high-fived my wife Wow,

7:32

I know Sorry

7:34

to hear that for her. I mean she wasn't

7:36

used to she said where the hell did that come from? 38

7:41

years of marriage. It's the first time you've high-fived In

7:45

the birth of our daughter, which is anyhow it

7:47

was it was a pretty awesome baseball game wasn't

7:49

it? Yes, I

7:52

mean you have the the best

7:54

hitter in the world who

7:57

had been struggling tie things up a

8:00

ball that just looked like a line drive,

8:02

but he hit it so damn hard. It

8:04

carried all the way out. And then after

8:07

that, you have a guy who's not going

8:09

to stay on his last vestiges, but I

8:11

don't think anybody, myself included, certainly expected Giancarlo

8:13

Stan to turn back into like an MVP

8:16

caliber player in the postseason and goes

8:18

and puts the Yankees up and it looks

8:20

like the nail in the coffin for the

8:23

guardians. And then to see John Kenzie Noel

8:26

with just that

8:28

swing, it was just so good.

8:30

And he, you know,

8:32

he's one of those guys who when

8:34

he connects, it's going to go a

8:37

really long way. And to have

8:39

David Fry on top of that,

8:41

finish things off, you guys

8:43

know, I grew up in Cleveland and I lived

8:47

as a child through the

8:49

torture of having teams that

8:51

were exceptionally talented and never

8:54

won. Like those nineties, Indians

8:56

teams, guys were so freaking

8:59

good and they never won a

9:01

world series. And it's been since

9:03

1948. And I know, look, Jay's

9:06

fans have had to live a really

9:08

long 30 years. Cleveland

9:10

baseball fans have had to live a really long 75 years.

9:12

And, you know,

9:15

if you are not from New

9:17

York or LA, the

9:20

guardians of the team, you should be rooting for.

9:22

Yeah, I think we should give Matt Boyd a

9:24

lot of credit too. Right. I mean, he could,

9:26

you could argue that he's the savior of the

9:28

rotation. He's the best pitcher they got in the

9:30

rotation. He just crapped. He's flipping it up there.

9:32

He was something special. He's,

9:34

you know what he is. He's the same guy

9:36

that he's, he's been when he's at his best.

9:39

You know, he's still coming back from

9:41

Tommy John surgery. Like, you know, normally,

9:44

normally there is a, not

9:47

a learning curve, but a feel curve

9:49

where it takes you, you know, probably

9:51

a full year to get the feel

9:53

back on your pitches. And with Matt

9:55

Boyd, especially with the change up being

9:57

as important a pitches it is to

9:59

him. you know,

10:01

getting that feel back almost immediately and

10:03

being the guy that he's been, he's

10:05

been awesome. They thought Tanner Bobby

10:07

was going to be that guy. He

10:09

lasted an ending in a third in

10:11

his start. And now the Guardians where

10:13

they are turned to a guy who

10:15

hasn't pitched since September 22nd. So, you

10:18

know, considering the mashup tonight is going

10:20

to be between a guy who hasn't

10:23

started since September 22nd versus a guy

10:25

who hasn't started since September 28th, I

10:28

have a feeling the over is

10:30

the play tonight. Yeah, I would

10:32

absolutely think so. You know, one of

10:34

the things I was thinking of last

10:36

night watching, you know, watching Klassé fail,

10:38

watching Holmes fail, Weaver fail. You

10:41

know where I'm going with this, I

10:43

think. And every time I

10:45

think of Yankees in postseason, obviously I think

10:47

of Mariano Rivera. And I just came away

10:49

thinking, I almost feel

10:51

guilty now because I took him

10:53

for granted for so long. Yep.

10:56

His excellence and, and,

10:58

you know, watching again, Klassé had a great year.

11:00

I'm not taking anything away from him, but the

11:02

year, but it just reinforces

11:05

how good Mariano was, doesn't it? A

11:08

hundred percent. And to me,

11:11

Rivera's brilliance was twofold.

11:13

Number one, he was consistent

11:16

at a position that is

11:18

defined by inconsistency. How

11:20

many relief pitchers, guys, do you see

11:22

string together three good years in a

11:24

row? It's like, it's not even that

11:26

high of a bar. I mean, in

11:29

recent years, it's just been

11:31

the dudes who, you know, it's been

11:33

a role, this Chapman it's

11:35

been Kenley Janssen. It's been

11:37

Craig Kimbrough. And the

11:39

list is short for a reason.

11:41

Cause it's extraordinarily hard to close

11:43

over a long period of time.

11:46

And, and beyond that, it was

11:48

Mo in the playoffs. I mean, you know, we

11:51

can all go and look at Luis

11:53

Gonzalez and, and say, yeah, he, he

11:55

blew game seven of the world series.

11:58

That is true. All

12:00

of the times, Mariano Rivera was out

12:02

there in imperative moments and all the

12:04

times he clutched up. I'm

12:08

glad I wasn't

12:10

voting for the Hall of Fame when

12:14

Mariano Rivera was inducted

12:16

because I almost have a

12:18

predisposition to just say no

12:20

to closers because I'm a

12:23

volume guy. I

12:25

feel like the epitome of

12:28

pitching is going for not

12:30

just multiple innings but deep into games

12:32

and showing that you can pitch in

12:34

those late innings your third or fourth

12:36

time through the lineup and still get

12:39

outs. The

12:41

fact that Mariano Rivera, his career inning

12:43

total starts with a one and the

12:45

best pitches of all time are three,

12:48

four, or five thousand innings, the

12:51

value there just isn't the same to me. So

12:53

I didn't want to be the guy who

12:56

didn't vote for Mariano Rivera but I think

12:58

I would have just because that postseason performance

13:00

takes him to such a different level and

13:02

that consistency year over year is just almost

13:04

inimitable. Jeff, is this Muswind for the

13:07

Yankees tonight? No,

13:10

no, they still got two games in the Bronx, man.

13:12

I don't think this is Muswind. The Muswind game was

13:14

yesterday for the Guardians. If they lost that

13:16

game, they were toast. And

13:20

thank God for them that John Kenzie Noel

13:22

and David Fry exist because it looked like

13:24

they were losing that game. I

13:30

think for a team like the Yankees,

13:32

getting punched in the mouth isn't a

13:34

bad thing. I think it's

13:36

a real wake up. You

13:39

get through a series with Kansas City where you want

13:41

a bunch of tight games but it's not a particularly

13:43

good offense and you're going to

13:45

win a series potentially against the Guardians who also

13:47

not a very good offense and then you're about

13:49

to go face the Dodgers it looks like and

13:51

it's like, oh, okay. Now

13:54

like there's a whole

13:56

different ball wax right here. And

13:58

so. we're going to

14:00

see what the Yankees are made of. When

14:02

you get punched in the mouth, how do you react

14:04

to it? Do you cower in fear, or do you

14:07

punch right back? And that's the question

14:09

for the New York Yankees going into tonight's game. The

14:12

other series, 508 game

14:14

on Sportsnet. Jack Flaherty on

14:16

the mound for the Dodgers, David Peterson for

14:18

the Mets. It's a

14:20

really good pitching matchup. But Jeff, looking back

14:22

at last night, if it wasn't for that

14:25

excitement in Cleveland, I think we'd be talking

14:27

about the night that Betts

14:29

and Otani had. Reached

14:31

base eight times, scored seven runs, each hit a

14:33

home run. I

14:38

don't know what to say about Otani

14:41

anymore. Here's

14:44

what you say, Jeff. This

14:46

is the best baseball player that we've

14:48

ever seen. And he continues

14:52

to prove that. He is.

14:54

Ever. He's not the best? Yes.

14:57

He's not for me, no. No?

15:00

No, the dude that played left field for San Francisco.

15:05

That's the best player I've ever seen walk on

15:07

the field of baseball. I've

15:10

never seen any, I've never seen an organist.

15:13

I played for the Brewers when they intentionally

15:15

walked in with the bases loaded with Jeff

15:18

Kin standing on the on deck circle. Like

15:20

he just did things to people without

15:22

even swinging a bat. So

15:25

I'm with you when it comes probably for

15:27

everything. When he's pitching, yeah, I'll give you

15:29

that. But man, that dude

15:31

Barry Bonds. Yeah, I

15:33

was just gonna say, are you ignoring the fact that

15:36

he pitches? I mean, if you want to say, Kevin,

15:40

that Shohei Otani is 80% of

15:42

Barry Bonds offensively, is

15:46

that fair? 75,

15:50

give me a number. That's fine. Yeah,

15:53

80. Yes. Okay.

15:55

Okay, 80, 80 is fine. 80 is

15:57

fine. Yeah, yeah, good. Yeah. He's also,

15:59

he's also. number one starting pitcher. It's

16:04

like I agree with you. Barry Bonds is

16:06

the best offensive player I have

16:09

ever seen bar none. Like

16:11

it's not even close. The power,

16:13

but especially I don't think people

16:16

appreciated just how keen his eye

16:18

was. This wasn't teams necessarily

16:20

pitching around him. Like they

16:22

wanted to be careful. So there was some nibbling

16:24

going on, but ultimately

16:26

it was just the guy had a greater he

16:28

had the kind of command of

16:30

the strike zone that we see from Juan Soto now

16:33

and and Juan Soto on

16:35

his best day still isn't it doesn't

16:37

have as good of an eye as

16:40

Barry Bonds did. So offensive player you

16:42

are correct. He Barry Bonds

16:44

is the best offensive player who's ever played baseball.

16:47

No disrespect to Babe Ruth Ted Williams to

16:49

Henry Aaron to all of the

16:51

great hitters Joe DiMaggio that that there

16:53

have been bonds is the best. But

16:57

oh, Tommy is like almost

17:00

bonds plus a

17:02

front line starting pitcher. How

17:04

do you how can you possibly say

17:06

that bonds beats that when Oh, Tommy

17:08

is the two things that every team

17:10

is looking for in one. Yeah,

17:13

I'll give you that. Okay, let me flip it to

17:15

you this way. Who's the best duo in the playoffs?

17:18

Oh, Toni Betts. Oh,

17:20

man. Oh, God. I

17:23

got you. I don't know who it is.

17:26

Oh, good. Yeah.

17:29

Oh, God, you suck. Sometimes,

17:36

you know, I

17:38

wish you wouldn't I this is one of

17:40

those questions that I wish I had had some time

17:42

to think about because I'm trying to do the gymnastics

17:45

in my head. And

17:48

and they're both just so that I probably.

17:51

Probably judge Soto. I

17:53

really feel. Yeah, I don't feel good

17:55

about that. I don't feel good

17:58

about that answer. But that like if you. If

18:00

I'm just doing like snap answer, that's my answer.

18:03

I don't know. I think the only way we're gonna know is head to

18:05

head, right? I mean, that's sort of

18:08

how you figure it out is. And I said

18:10

this to Jeff when this thing started and he

18:12

asked me who's gonna end up being in the

18:14

World Series. And I said, I'm hoping that the

18:16

best case scenario is because I don't, you know,

18:19

I don't care about either one of the teams,

18:21

but I like seeing the best against the best.

18:23

And if you could get Otani at his best

18:25

and judge at his best and just see what

18:27

would take place and how the managers and the

18:30

organization and the khakis would handle that would be

18:32

just the best thing on the

18:34

earth. And that's why I asked about the

18:36

duo because if that was to

18:38

take place, that would mean

18:40

that Betts and Soto would

18:42

be sort of at the, you know,

18:44

at the front of everybody, how you would get each

18:47

guy out and what would take place. So that's the

18:49

only reason I ask you that question. Listen,

18:52

I hope we get to answer this, right?

18:55

I mean, as somebody

18:57

who loves baseball and

18:59

loves history and

19:02

understands what the Yankees and

19:04

Dodgers mean, at

19:07

one point in my life, I would like

19:10

to see a Yankees Dodgers World Series. This

19:12

has nothing to do with large market bias.

19:14

I grew up in Cleveland. I want my

19:16

friends to stop being tortured. So the

19:19

idea that the Guardians go and beat the

19:21

Yankees, yeah, that's great too. Or that the

19:23

Mets continue this amazing round. That would be

19:25

awesome. But at some point in

19:27

my life, Yankees Dodgers would be awesome. And

19:30

having it happen in the year where Soto's

19:32

there and when Judge is at

19:34

his apex and when Otani is going to be the

19:36

first DH, like full-time DH

19:38

to go out and win MVP. And

19:42

when Mookie has found himself and

19:44

clearly as we saw last night is

19:47

in a groove, I mean, like, dude,

19:50

you kind of can't beat that. And I

19:52

will be very curious if that is how

19:54

it turns out. To

19:56

see what America and Canada and the

19:58

rest of the world of the world

20:00

think of that world series? Is it

20:02

something that people are going to watch?

20:04

Because the reality is, guys, if

20:07

you're major league baseball, you cannot set up

20:09

a better world series than Dodgers, Yankees. I

20:12

think we're going to really see, especially if

20:14

it's a series that goes long, we're going

20:16

to really see how many baseball fans there

20:18

actually are these days. Yeah. No, listen, I,

20:20

you know, we've seen the ratings in Japan,

20:23

obviously, so far have been huge. The ratings

20:25

in the States have been up. I mean,

20:27

baseball, it's never going to

20:30

replace the NFL. But

20:33

yeah, I think Oh, Tony and judge Kevin

20:35

and I talked about this yesterday. I remember

20:37

the to me, the beauty of

20:39

McGuire versus Sosa, even though knowing what we

20:41

know about it now was that it was

20:43

it was a split screen

20:45

moment. Right. Every night you watch the

20:48

sports. There was McGuire on the

20:50

right. So on the left, you got to

20:52

see what they did. You know, you were

20:54

they were cutting into games to show McGuire's

20:56

at bats. And I

20:59

think it's really cool

21:01

in a team sport when you can get

21:03

a head to head thing, even though it's

21:05

not head to head, they're not pitching to

21:07

each other that it's like the furthest thing

21:09

from head to head, but we will we

21:11

will pretend Oh, yeah, we

21:13

will force ourselves to pretend because that's

21:15

man, that's a great point by you.

21:17

So really, I think you might I

21:19

think you might have just changed my

21:22

story that I have planned going into

21:24

the world series because the McGuire like,

21:27

you're right, like this is the biggest, potentially

21:29

the biggest moment for baseball since McGuire. So

21:31

isn't it? Yeah. And I'll tell you, I'll

21:33

tell you what I remember from that as

21:36

well. I mean, I was lucky enough to

21:38

get pulled off the expos of beaten to

21:40

cover that chase. I mean, you had Sosa

21:42

people, you had McGuire people, you

21:44

know, people didn't like McGuire because he was

21:47

kind of surly and Sosa was happy and

21:49

you know, having fun and smoking in the

21:51

clubhouse when you went up to interview him

21:53

and all this stuff. I mean, and

21:56

you had you literally had Sosa versus

21:58

McGuire people. Oh, God, did Sammy Sosa

22:00

rip heaters in the clubhouse? Oh, yeah,

22:02

he and Mark. Listen, I mean, I

22:04

remember being in that clubhouse. He did.

22:06

Mark Grace did. They had a

22:08

bunch of guys that were smoking in the clubhouse. Yeah,

22:10

he's getting those from Jeff, too. Yeah,

22:12

no, I was not carrying darts around. Yes,

22:14

he was. Oh, yeah,

22:16

that's a way. Yeah, they were smoking in the

22:19

clubhouse. I mean, that's awesome. Grace was a chain

22:21

smoker. Oh, Grace, I knew.

22:23

Sosa, I did not. Oh, yes, Sosa would puff

22:25

away, too. You know? You know what the best

22:27

part of it was, Kevin? Blair

22:30

would walk up to him with his Virginia slims and

22:32

be like, boys, can I join in? Yeah,

22:35

my Virginia slims. Yeah, so

22:37

proud of them, too. Those were the days.

22:39

Never smacked anything like this before. Those were

22:41

the days, my friend. You could go up

22:43

when Keith Hernandez was playing for the Mets

22:45

and interview him. And if he had a

22:47

beer in his hand, he had a little

22:49

cooler. He'd give you one. He'd say, boys,

22:51

help yourself to one if you want. Of

22:53

course, a lot of us did. Listen,

22:56

Jeff, we appreciate you joining us today. I know you got

22:58

a scoot here. Enjoy the

23:00

rest of the, you know, enjoy this weekend. We'll talk

23:02

to you next week. And if you want the Guardians

23:05

to win, it'd be kind of cool. Oh, Tony, judge.

23:07

I mean, you can't lose either way. I

23:10

was going to say, this is going to be a

23:12

really good month regardless. You will be. Be well. Thanks,

23:14

buddy. See you. See you, boys. Jeff

23:16

passing, ESPN's MLB insider. And

23:19

again, 508 tonight is the first pitch

23:21

on Sportsnet, Jack Flaherty against David Peterson.

23:25

David Peterson's awfully good. Do not

23:27

sleep on David Peterson tonight.

23:29

And that didn't sound right. And Luis

23:32

Hiel against Gavin Williams at 8 o'clock

23:35

on Sportsnet. I'm

23:37

with Jeff. I don't think it's a must

23:39

win. I think last night was the must

23:41

win game of the series. I

23:44

think the Guardians had to win. You

23:48

know, this is where, this is the

23:50

beauty of the two. This is why I like the way

23:52

the format set up, 2-3-2. I

23:57

don't know. You know, do you think the Yankees

23:59

really. believe that they're that good? Like

24:01

do you really like they got

24:03

floss? Like they run the bases

24:05

like little league teams. Here's, well boy do they

24:08

ever. They're paying now some moles in it. But

24:10

here's the thing if I'm, this is the,

24:12

you think Yankees fan believe in waiver today? This is kind

24:15

of the view

24:17

I would take from above if I'm

24:19

the Yankees. My

24:22

big guy's hitting home runs. He's hit a couple

24:24

now. Stanton hitting

24:26

home runs. He looks good.

24:29

Soto still working. I mean they're still working

24:31

pitchers. I feel,

24:33

I still feel pretty good if I'm the, if I,

24:35

if I'm the Yankees. Then I got Garrett Cole. There is

24:37

a lot of care for all those things to true, but

24:39

there is a little bit of that. My

24:42

two donkeys hit the biggest two home runs of

24:44

the season off the best closer in the sport.

24:46

And we can't even celebrate it. Yeah, but what?

24:49

Well, yeah, I remember it a week from

24:51

now. See, I look at it a little

24:53

differently in that if

24:55

I'm the guardians right now, I'm

24:59

thinking about Emmanuel Klase. Like

25:01

this is running him out there. We saw it in

25:03

the other series too. Oh,

25:06

you got to not, not pitch him. No,

25:08

you're going to, you're going to, you're going to pitch him. But

25:11

when it says turn to get the ball, he'll get the ball. Just

25:14

don't throw a slider down the middle. I

25:16

mean a better, a better hitter got beat

25:18

you. You, he

25:21

was better at hitting that day than you were pitching.

25:23

Like he made a good, it was 99 on

25:25

the black, the judge Homer. I want to, before

25:27

we scoot, I want to talk to you about

25:29

the play, the play at first base, him and

25:31

as, yeah. And Josh Naylor, huge play in the

25:33

game. Obviously a great play by him and as,

25:36

yeah, that he didn't leave his feet. That was the biggest part

25:38

of that. He leaves his feet. Jazz

25:40

is safe. Yes. Like that. That's the big deal,

25:42

right? You stretch out, you get that. Naylor, that's

25:44

a big deal, right? You got to understand where

25:46

that guy's catching the ball and where his momentum's

25:48

taken. I was going to ask you that because

25:50

Naylor and I, I knew, I knew

25:53

where the glove was. You could see where Naylor caught

25:55

it, you know, in federal territory, but you watch his

25:57

footwork in that play as well. Yeah. You have to

25:59

know that. You know where that

26:01

defender, who, where he's

26:03

going to release the ball from and where

26:05

his momentum is taking him. All the good,

26:07

all the good defenders, I always say the

26:09

same thing. When you throw it, follow it.

26:12

And when you can't normally the throw is

26:14

going to go where your momentum is taking

26:16

you. His momentum was going towards the foul

26:18

line. That means when he releases the ball,

26:20

the ball is going to go away from

26:23

the person trying to catch it. That means

26:25

my footwork has to be on the outside

26:27

of the bag. Remember the bag's never been

26:29

bigger. I want to use every inch of

26:31

that thing. That's exactly

26:33

what Naylor did. He read it before it

26:35

actually happened. I see what happens. I

26:37

don't leave my feet. I think that's the biggest

26:40

part of it. He leaves his feet. He's safe

26:42

at first. And in the end

26:44

he could have went differently, but he didn't. And

26:46

then that first baseman realized, man, look at this

26:48

momentum. Now I got to adjust myself. I can't

26:50

stand where I normally stand to catch that ball.

26:53

I got to get over a little bit so

26:55

I can maximize every part of my stretch, which

26:58

is just, I mean, it sounds simple. It's baseball

27:00

one-on-one, but in the heat of the moment when

27:02

you have to do it and not think about

27:04

it. And much of the discussion had been, we

27:07

had Jeff Frankour on. This

27:09

has not been the best series defensively

27:11

or offensively for Josh Naylor. It's

27:15

an offensive player first. Yeah, that was just a

27:18

hell of a play. Like, and

27:20

when, and I thought he was

27:22

safe. My first reaction is Chisholm's safe just

27:24

because I

27:26

couldn't believe that play was made. Him

27:29

and as a something else, man. He is

27:31

something else. Yeah, I think when you have

27:33

two guys that, and especially an organization that

27:35

prides themselves on making most of the plays,

27:37

that play should always be made. Like that

27:39

is sort of a pitch and catch

27:42

kind of thing, right? It's just, everybody's got to be

27:44

in the right spot at the right time. I guess

27:46

it gets magnified because of the situation and the time

27:48

in there. I mean, it's basically, you could see it

27:50

coming. They make that play, they get the outs from

27:52

a guy standing on the mound that nobody could pick

27:55

out of a lineup. And then Bo Naylor, I hate

27:57

to keep picking on him, but boy, you know. hitting

28:00

the water if he fell out of a boat.

28:02

Hadn't been the easiest thing for him to do

28:04

and then getting the lead off single. And then

28:06

you knew Fry coming up was gonna get an

28:08

elevated sinker that wasn't sinking and hit

28:11

that thing to the moon. So it was meant to be. Yeah,

28:13

I don't- I think it's a must

28:15

win for me for the Yankees. Just there's

28:17

a little chink in the armor. Like they

28:19

got some holes and they know what they

28:21

are. They had the

28:23

lead with the hottest closer in the

28:25

sport. It didn't work

28:27

out. What do you do today? Like every

28:29

once in a while, a guy's gotta get punched in the

28:31

gut. Weaver got punched in the

28:34

gut. How's he gonna handle it? Cause

28:36

he's getting the ball again today. If they're up a run,

28:38

he's getting it. How's he gonna handle it? Kate Smith's pretty

28:40

good, isn't he? Well, the Jays need

28:42

three of him. That's what

28:44

I sent Parker a text during the game. He said,

28:46

you need three of them. I said, boy, Kate Smith

28:48

would look good in a Jays uniform. He said three

28:50

of them would look better. Well,

28:53

they need three of them. That was quite an

28:55

inning. I mean, the sixth inning strikes out, gets

28:57

a ground ball from Soto in three pitches. Judge

28:59

strikes out in four, Stanton

29:01

three pitches. It was the 10 pitches,

29:03

10 strikes. With the power,

29:05

the movement, the deception,

29:08

the just, you can't hit it. I know you can't,

29:10

you know you can't hit it. I'm gonna throw it.

29:13

I'm gonna attack the zone. It's gonna be three up,

29:15

three down in a hurry. I'll get my team in

29:17

a day. You know, like it's pretty cool to watch.

29:19

You know what he reminds me on

29:21

the mound. Think about this for a minute. Just

29:23

his personality. I mean, he reminds me a little

29:25

bit of Doc. Holiday, holiday.

29:28

Just throwing, getting off. Like just not, there's

29:31

kind of an arrogance. I'm not saying the

29:33

stuff is, but you watch them. There's an

29:35

arrogance. There's an assumption that things are

29:37

gonna go well. I mean, we saw them here in Toronto and

29:39

I remember looking at you because I had not seen Ken Smith

29:41

pitch. And we saw him here in Toronto. I looked at you

29:44

and said, oh my God. I gotta be honest. This is the

29:46

best playoffs I've seen in a while. Without

29:48

question. 416-413-3959 is the back leg line.

29:53

Questions, comments about the post season, about

29:55

the Jays, about anything. Maybe you've got

29:57

some thoughts on the, on the. the

30:00

race situation. We had a lot of feedback

30:03

people talking about our conversation with Mark Topkin.

30:05

Of course a lot of people wondering if

30:07

maybe Montreal's on the on the picture in

30:10

the picture. I'm not certain about that at all but

30:12

we'll get back to that. It's Blair Embarker on Sportsnet

30:14

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30:17

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590 the Fan and wherever you get your

30:28

podcasts. Alright

30:38

welcome back to Blair Embarker. It is

30:40

a Friday. That means we go to

30:43

the back leg line to see

30:46

what you all are

30:48

thinking about. Questions? What's

30:50

y'all? Well

30:52

I talk. Just

30:55

do that. Make some water. What?

30:57

At least I pushed the off button to

31:01

do it. 508 will

31:03

be the first pitch tonight on Sportsnet as

31:06

the Dodgers and Mets. The Dodgers in

31:08

position to win that series. The

31:11

Yankees and Guardians. That game will be on

31:13

Sportsnet 590 the Fan and Sportsnet tonight at

31:15

8 o'clock. 808 to be exact.

31:18

Gavin Williams against

31:20

Luis Yil. There's

31:25

course runs. You have no

31:27

idea what you're getting from either one of them guys. No you

31:30

really don't do. I'd like you could ask

31:32

me what are you what are you looking for? I don't know.

31:34

I mean I'm pitching a month. No and

31:37

he always went when he's not good is really

31:41

yeah I mean but the stuff is. Boy

31:43

yeah he's a he's a he's a max

31:45

effort guy when he's good

31:47

with location but when he's not

31:50

locating he's just another guy so

31:52

I'd like how do you how would you know like the flow

31:54

of the game and we even let him get in the flow

31:56

again that's a good question like I good luck being the manager.

32:00

the back leg. Good luck. I wouldn't

32:05

want that job. Timothy

32:08

and Vancouver reached line.

32:10

I was thinking about the exits

32:13

from the playoffs, the Orioles and

32:15

the Astros. I'm think,

32:18

uh, their next season Whether

32:23

it be power pitching. Um,

32:26

just one of your thoughts about the

32:28

playoffs, you're probably going to be looking for

32:30

as well. Um, here's some on your answer. Thanks. Have

32:32

a good day. Yeah, thanks, Timothy. Uh, I mean, if

32:34

you're the Orioles, you've got

32:37

to figure out your rotation. You've got curb Corbin burn or you

32:39

get in Felix Batista back to the 19th. That's up to back.

32:42

I think John is John Means coming

32:44

back during the year. You've got to get your starting

32:46

rotation figured out if you're I think if you're the

32:49

Orioles, you're looking back

32:51

at this playoff and you're wondering

32:53

what would have happened. Now I know you didn't hit,

32:56

but you're wondering what you're going to do if you'd

32:58

actually gotten to re-exclude. I think this is a front

33:00

office thing. I think the Orioles need to figure out

33:02

what they're going to do with the, the plethora of

33:04

minor league system guys that they have that

33:06

quite frankly, I would think that the big liggers that

33:09

are already there think that they have no chance of being a part

33:11

of the big league team. And that's sort of the cloud

33:14

hanging over the organization. Got to have some clarity.

33:16

There it is. Figure it out. Trade some

33:18

of that. Get something in there that

33:20

matters. Sort of send the message that, you know,

33:23

it ain't about us having the number one pharmacist. I don't even think

33:25

they do. I just think it's not a game race. But you know

33:27

what I'm saying, right? It's absolutely send a message

33:29

to your big league team that we're all in

33:31

with you guys. We don't need both. I mean,

33:33

you can still keep some notes to have some

33:36

depth where you need to have it, hopefully in your, on

33:38

your pitching side. But I think that's for

33:41

me is they have enough talent. They've

33:43

just missing something. I don't know what it is, but

33:45

it was it something.

33:47

Yeah, I think and the Astros it's the low averages

33:50

sooner or later you're going to lose as things, one

33:52

of them years, where they were going

33:54

to lose next year, they'll be like, I think they've

33:56

got to make they've got the Alex Bregman decision. I

34:00

don't know if you're right. I don't know if it's a

34:02

decision. I'm not signing to me you Well,

34:06

it no I if I'm Houston

34:09

if he's gonna give me a discount You

34:12

know But I'm

34:14

you asked me I said if I'm Houston I have

34:16

a certain amount of interest I'm not gonna break the

34:18

bank form though. No brother. Give them some time. I've

34:20

got him exactly at some point I've got to move

34:22

on and to

34:25

me Kyle Tucker If

34:27

I close my eyes and have Kyle Tucker and

34:29

your Dan Alvarez hitting in the middle of the

34:31

order for me for the next five Years, I'm

34:33

okay. I'll figure the rest. Yeah, I think tooth

34:35

So they might need to find them who's playing

34:37

center every day. That might be a position to

34:40

the on first base is You know, they can't

34:42

go with John with with with singleton anymore. I

34:44

mean boy Say

34:46

it I think it it don't say it Jeff.

34:48

You want to say it. I'm not saying say

34:50

it Tucker ratty

34:52

straight up first base is a Situation

34:56

that needs addressing what but

34:58

you know for me the the other thing with

35:01

the Orioles and I don't know maybe

35:07

I'm overreacting, but I

35:09

wonder if You've

35:11

got a certain amount of depth that catcher

35:13

in the organization I wonder if you really

35:16

have to think about Adley Rushman and and

35:19

Do you want to move them out from behind the

35:21

plate? I know he's important to the team. I get

35:23

all that He

35:26

did not have a good second half He

35:28

did not have a great postseason. I They

35:33

gotta remember to Santander is not gonna be there either

35:35

I would there's not gonna be there How do you

35:38

make up for that offense that they're gonna be lacking

35:40

when it just comes to the 40 and the hundred

35:42

and he's Bring it to the

35:44

table, you know, there's some question there I did again,

35:46

I think they need to start with what they're doing

35:48

at the minor league level get rid of whatever that

35:50

is Bring in a name. I mean they've got matters.

35:53

They've got two guys Kobe Mayo who

35:55

can play third base and first base and Said

35:58

that the guy that really interesting me as

36:01

Sammy basalo the catcher in first baseman he's

36:04

he's 20 years old but he's already

36:06

at triple-a he's a left-handed hitter I

36:09

boy you know I can think of a team that would

36:11

anyhow I'm not even gonna go there you get the melody

36:13

order he what he will

36:15

eventually yes next year uh

36:18

six four 230 pound left-handed hitter

36:20

they ever hit 40 big ones at the big

36:22

league level no expecting to hit 40 no and

36:24

you you do you gotta again I think for

36:26

me the front offers for the Blue Jays that's

36:28

where they at they

36:31

I would say the clocks a tick and when

36:33

it comes to how many molecules they got left

36:35

that's just me my point with basalo those if

36:37

you've got this guy and you think he's ready

36:40

and most people think he's he's ready this year

36:42

then then maybe you think about retrimin is a

36:44

DH first I don't I'm just throwing that out

36:46

there I'm just throwing it out there Red Sox

36:48

will be better the Rays will be better maybe

36:50

the Blue Jays will be better to be a

36:52

little bit more competition than the East next year

36:54

too you got to figure that out right with

36:56

the Orioles take a step back regardless of what

36:59

they do that's the question you hit the nail

37:01

in the head I think the Felix Batista makes

37:03

a big big difference here's it gives them identity

37:05

huge that's a big deal right absolutely yep Louise

37:07

and Moncton New Brunswick love my Kevin it's Louise

37:09

and Moncton this question is for you

37:12

whenever you thought about stealing the

37:14

base did you always try to

37:17

time up the picture or was

37:19

it instinct or

37:22

you know you're going from

37:24

first to second you don't have a base coach

37:26

so how you decide when to go and when

37:28

not to I've been noticing that

37:30

there are a lot more stolen

37:32

bases but a lot of people are getting caught

37:34

too and I just wondered what you

37:36

thought about that yeah it's a great

37:38

that's a great question I now look when I

37:40

when I was in college I stole a lot

37:42

when I was when I got drafted and the

37:44

Brewers wanted me to gain weight get bigger think

37:46

about thumping to the pull side I was

37:49

more thinking about that than I was running the bases

37:51

and you know I didn't so

37:53

much worry about that you know again I

37:55

everything's better and it's more magnified here right

37:57

everybody knows that Oh Tani likes to steal

37:59

bases You're going to do things

38:01

if you're a pitcher to try and control that

38:03

and give the catcher a better chance. That's

38:06

why it's more magnified. I think because

38:08

the bases have never been

38:10

bigger, I think that helps a lot.

38:13

Just gives people courage that normally wouldn't

38:15

have courage. But to

38:17

answer your question, I think it's all the above. And

38:20

I think it's got to be now

38:22

in the playoffs, I think that manager,

38:24

the organization's got to have confidence in

38:27

that player to do

38:29

it and try it in big spots. They're

38:31

not going to give everybody the green light.

38:35

They got to have confidence in somebody, say like

38:37

Mookie Betts, that I ain't got to tell him

38:39

to not go anywhere. He knows

38:41

the situation. That's where the instincts come into

38:43

play. It's this tremendous question, but

38:46

I think it's a collection of a bunch

38:48

of things. It's got to be an organization.

38:50

A manager having faith in that player. It's

38:52

got to have that player understanding who's on

38:54

the mound. The catcher throwing leads,

38:57

situation of the game. Everything's

38:59

dictated by what the scoreboard's telling

39:02

you. Where you're

39:04

at in the game, what the score is, like

39:06

all these things got to take place. And there

39:08

are a lot, a lot. Mark

39:10

Boudzinski is a really good first base coach.

39:13

They do a lot of work before the game

39:15

starts. They know pop times. They

39:17

know how quick pitchers are. They know release

39:19

points. They know sequencing, which is the big

39:21

deal, right? You want to pick breaking ball

39:24

to go on. That first base coach is

39:26

going to help you along. So it's accumulation

39:28

of a bunch of things. That's a tremendous

39:30

question. And this is why this

39:32

time of the year is the best. You're seeing every

39:34

little thing really emphasized because

39:36

it matters, right? Giving up that extra

39:38

base we saw last night. How big

39:40

it is. Two out

39:42

double. Next guy comes up and thumps

39:44

one, walks it off. It's that kind of thing. So

39:47

tremendous question though. On

39:49

a percentage basis, do

39:53

base runners steal off the

39:55

pitcher more than they do the catcher? Yeah.

39:59

I would think so. Okay. Now there obviously

40:01

is those obvious catchers

40:03

who nobody would ever steal on because of how

40:05

good they throw and how quickly they are and

40:08

that they get up out of their crouch. And you

40:11

know that that going to one knee is sort

40:13

of ruined it. Right. Like

40:15

you know it's almost made

40:17

catchers lazy. You know Caleb

40:20

and Joe talk about that all the time how

40:22

much they hate it in certain situations. And again

40:24

it's about the organization right the organization would rather

40:26

you frame a pitch than

40:28

you throw somebody out. So getting back

40:30

to your question that is me it's

40:33

more about you stealing off the pitcher

40:35

than it is look at the Blue

40:37

Jays a prime example they paid zero

40:39

attention to anybody yet standing at first

40:41

base. I gotta tell you I

40:43

gotta tell you Tim Mays and Tim Mays that comes

40:45

in the game and I'm thinking okay here goes to

40:48

the home base yeah. I mean

40:50

that just is like is that Groundhog Day. Jeff

40:53

and Morden Manitoba. If

40:55

the Jays had the prospect capital to go out

40:57

and get either Brett Rooker

40:59

or Devon Williams which one would you

41:03

prefer them to get. I would

41:05

probably lean towards Williams. Love

41:08

to hear your thoughts. Thanks guys. Yeah

41:10

I mean I'd rather get you

41:13

got to get a hitter. I understand you got to get

41:15

the back end of the ball. I get all that but

41:17

I got to get a hitter

41:19

first and foremost I've got to get a hitter. I

41:22

mean I like Brian where I just he's

41:26

better than what you have. He could

41:29

have a bad year next year. Yeah

41:31

exactly. I'm looking for

41:33

a little more certainty.

41:38

I think they need both. They need

41:40

both but I've got that's where they're at.

41:42

I guess it comes down to is it

41:45

easier to get is

41:48

it easier to sign a hitter trade

41:51

for a hitter or sign a

41:53

reliever trade for a reliever. There's

41:55

so much there's so much that

41:57

this team has to do. I know we keep saying this.

41:59

and I'm sure people are tired of hearing it, but I

42:04

watch the Guardians. And

42:08

the same thing we talked about, go

42:10

position by position and find out where do the

42:12

Jays have the edge? Any

42:14

of these teams. And then the Guardians.

42:17

The Guardians are probably the, my

42:19

joking aside about the AL Central, they're probably

42:21

the least kind of fancy team

42:23

in the posties, go around. Where

42:26

do the Jays have the edge in those guys? Pick a

42:28

spot. First base

42:30

is the one that immediately stands out to me.

42:33

Catcher. I mean, I don't know.

42:36

Second base. I

42:38

mean, Jimenez is awfully good. Yeah.

42:43

The Jays have a lot to do. This

42:45

postseason has reinforced in my mind that

42:48

they have a lot to do. And I gotta

42:50

tell you, I gotta tell you, I'm

42:52

almost at the point with this team where I

42:54

do think when they start adding guys, when they

42:56

start trading for guys, you've

42:59

gotta get the next group in here. When

43:02

you trade for a guy this off season, you better

43:04

be getting a guy who's gonna be here for three

43:06

or four years to cover you when Vlady and Paul

43:08

are gone. Yeah, I'm not sure that the

43:10

front office, that's where they're at. I don't think they're, I

43:12

think they're playing for next year. Yeah, nice question. Why would

43:14

Oakland give a Rooker? Well,

43:17

Oakland needs more prospects. Oh,

43:19

Oakland's going to a minor league park. I mean, if

43:21

you want to get anybody to watch, how

43:24

much fun was it watching? Hitting dudes, hitting

43:26

balls to the moon. Rooker does that. It's

43:28

not costing you any money. Why

43:30

would you trade him? Like, it just, that part

43:32

of it doesn't make any sense. I know he's an

43:35

obvious name and easy name because of who he plays

43:37

for, but I'm not sure if you're Oakland. I mean,

43:39

it sounds to me like the people we've had on, they're

43:41

heading the right direction. I don't think that they'd make

43:43

a move. I also think you've also gotta look at

43:45

it this way. What

43:49

do you have to trade? Bow,

43:52

you're not trading Bow. Oakland's not going to trade a

43:54

guy for Bow who's going to

43:56

be gone in a year. Like, you

43:59

have to think about that. that when you look

44:01

at putting these deals together. I

44:03

just, I honestly don't, I

44:06

just don't have an idea where this, where

44:08

this front office goes this off season. Could

44:12

they run it back? Could they bring back largely

44:14

the same team? Yeah, that wouldn't, it wouldn't shock

44:16

me. It wouldn't shock me. I wouldn't like

44:18

to see it, but it wouldn't shock me. Could

44:20

they do what they did a couple of years ago and

44:23

end up with like a Brandon Bell? I mean, who the

44:25

hell knows? But, watch

44:28

your mouth Jeff. Yeah,

44:30

I just see, to me they've got, this

44:34

is Kevin, this, this, they have

44:36

more holes now than

44:38

they have had since 2016. There's

44:41

a lot. They have a lot of holes. They've had holes

44:43

for the last couple of years and didn't want to point

44:45

the finger at it. Yeah, there's a lot

44:47

of holes. It's just funny how I seem to be the only one to

44:49

know they had a cleanup here. Ashley

44:51

in Toronto. What's

44:53

your for Kevin? It's here. I

44:57

read something recently in the athletic. John

45:00

Mosalock, Cardinals GM indicated

45:03

that they're open to

45:05

listening to trading

45:08

assets, big shedding salary basically.

45:10

So mixing the Garinato. Oh

45:14

sure, he's got no trade clause, but he's

45:16

not getting any younger. He might want to

45:18

get a ring. So

45:20

just wondering from a platform player's

45:23

perspective, like pros and

45:25

cons of wanting to move to

45:27

another city, win with

45:29

Toronto potentially, if

45:31

Kevin could evaluate that from his perspective, if

45:34

we have even a shot at it, if

45:37

obviously the Cardinals might want some

45:39

of our pieces, but you know,

45:41

Aaron Otto. So I

45:43

appreciate any of his comments

45:45

and Blair can chime in as well. Appreciate

45:47

it. Thanks Bob. Yeah, that's a good question.

45:50

If I were Aaron Otto, why would I want to come to Toronto? You

45:53

don't watch TV? Like you see

45:55

what they're not doing offensively. Why don't you want to come

45:57

here? My first thought was... if

46:00

I wanted to get a ring, why

46:02

would I pick Toronto? Where would I go? I've

46:04

got a better chance at St. Louis because I

46:06

play in the Central. Absolutely. And St.

46:09

Louis has had a couple of bad years. But

46:12

he's coming off a bad year, too. He has something

46:14

to prove. He's one

46:16

of those trier guys. How

46:19

dare I have a down year, and I'm going to

46:21

come back next year and be better. Ron Halesley is

46:23

the only guy I'd want for the Cardinals. I mean,

46:25

unless they wanted to do something silly and trade Jordan

46:28

Walker or something like that. I might not want him.

46:30

You got a bunch. You got three or four Jordan

46:32

Walkers already. You don't really. No, you don't? No. You've

46:36

seen Jordan Walker play? He's

46:38

Kevin. He's obscenely young. They're

46:41

not in the business of trying to

46:44

make guys better at the big league level now

46:46

and give them a long leash. They ain't in

46:48

that business no more. They've tried to do that

46:51

the last couple of years. You see how that

46:53

went this year? He's obscenely young, Kevin. I

46:56

mean, again, you've got to remember where this front

46:58

office is at. Like, they got time. Time is

47:00

on their side, Jeff. That's

47:03

77 wins with a spin of $235 million, Jeff.

47:07

Go to Tony and Halifax. I'm

47:10

wondering what you think. As

47:12

the Mets do better and

47:14

better, does it affect Jay's

47:17

chances of getting Alonzo from

47:19

them? Why would he leave a

47:21

winner, in other words? Just wondering what

47:23

your thoughts are on that. Money, money,

47:26

money, money. That's why, Tony. Absolutely.

47:30

Listen, I think with a lot of free agents, my

47:35

point with Pete Alonzo, if you win, and I don't think

47:37

they're going to, but if he was to win a World

47:39

Series with the Mets, that I got my ring. Now I'm

47:41

going to go for the money. I will say this. He's

47:43

going to go for the money anyway. You know that. Of

47:46

course, yes. I mean, I used to play. I don't go

47:48

money. I go money first. I'm flipping it. I'm flipping it

47:50

the other way. He had success. If you

47:52

have success in New York, sometimes the success he has

47:54

allows you to go on. He's going to go where

47:56

the money is. He says he loves New York because

47:58

he knows that New York team can. and drop the,

48:01

you know, back that break stroke up. I don't know about

48:03

you guys, I watch him hit. His bat don't look slow

48:05

to you. I mean,

48:07

he could be a year older next year. How slow is

48:09

that bat look? I was about- You ain't afraid to throw

48:11

him a fastball on a fastball count? I was about to

48:13

say. I thought they ain't. No, I was gonna ask- And

48:15

now they're flipping it to him because he's cheating to get

48:18

to the philosophy. I was gonna ask

48:20

you that same question about Pete Alonso. We

48:23

know who he is. We know about the homerun, all

48:25

that stuff. Does

48:28

he look to be a

48:30

guy who could be in the, you know,

48:32

the downward spark part of his career?

48:35

The other way where all off speed

48:37

pitches. I'm

48:41

just, it's the obvious. Sometimes

48:44

you can have some bad parts to

48:47

where you just kind of showing up, where

48:50

you're trying to get paid against some really

48:52

good pitching and show your obvious weakness. It

48:54

looks to me like he's trying to create bat

48:57

speed. He ain't gonna have to do

48:59

that more next year when he's a little older and

49:01

the team just dropped a bunch of money on you,

49:03

expecting you to hit 45 homers. I

49:06

mean, we've been saying this for a little while. I said this when

49:09

he was struggling as soon as the playoffs

49:11

started and his struggles from the second half

49:13

on. He's creating bat speed, which is

49:15

never a good thing. Yeah. That

49:19

is it for us today. This is my point, I think. 508,

49:23

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49:30

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